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lets see how many of us have root

I'd like to see how many G1s have root RIGHT NOW how many are still rootable and how many are locked up ATM.
edit: I dont think this will be an accurate poll of the % of how many G1s in the "world" are unlocked, just a view of the % of how many are rooted amongst the profile of a XDA-Dev type, ie: early adopters, tinkerers, hacker types, tech geeks and any other stereotype you'd like to throw in, but my point is this sample has a bit of bias.
that said, im suprised at the #s so far, its under 2 dozen at this point, but I'd have figured there would be more locked, I'll be intrested to see it after a good number of votes how it goes...
THE SO CALLED "l33tspeak" was meant tounge in cheek, please don't think I actually use those terms, C'mon guys I don't type in "business english" but gimme some more credit than that...jeez ;(

I took the update like a chimp without checking the forums first. D'oh!

mariom said:
I took the update like a chimp without checking the forums first. D'oh!
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same here. first day i got my phone it asked me to update so of course i did.
selling it on ebay for a dev phone though so its all good

my rc30 story
I bought mine on day 1 here in the US so I knew I had to deny the update till I got the JF rc30 worked out, so I was ready, I use my g1 as my alarm in the morning and when it went off 1 day (6am) I picked up the phone and touched the screen while doing so...by the time I looked at the screen it was flashing rc30.....
But I had a replacement on the way from tmob cause my trackball died 15 days after I bought it so, I couldn't take it back I had to get a swap from tmob, and it was not upgraded yet, so I have been both boats...
Bhang

I rooted with JF's first RC30 and then flashed to RC30 v1.2.

I have the original JF rc30, I need to put JF 1.2 and the DEV boot loader.

Mine keeps popping up to update.
Still reading up on the benefits of custom firmware so going to keep pressing "update Later" till I decide.
EDIT: Stupid G1 hung then quickly popped up with the update popup as soon as I pressed enter. Great.

Wish I could root mine. :-(

I ordered my phone the minute it came available for pre-order, and I've been following AndroidGuys, ModMyGPhone, and this site ever since. Rooted G1 here, thanks to this forum though.

aad4321 said:
the selections need to be clarified a little bit, its like total slang
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"l33tspeak" is irritating as hell. I didn't participate in this poll.

jashsu said:
"l33tspeak" is irritating as hell. I didn't participate in this poll.
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it was meant sarcasticly, and I know sarcasam never translates well in forums, I was making a joke

Preorder owner rooted as soon as JF came out with his mod. Moved all the caches, Installed all the tweaks and will install dev bootloader just have't had the time.

I got my g1 december 9th (yesterday) and it already shipped with rc30.very dissapointed!

so if we already have rc30, we can't undo it?

^ nope
..too short...

I hope that 1 guy got his flashed
At this point there is no way to change from a "real" RC30 to one of JFs RC30s... but I think the dev bootloader could be the key, if somebody can get the dev bootloader on those ota rc30s and its all done but it is signed using the "dev keyset" maybe some balsy htc or goog or android disgruntled dev/employee will leak the secret key used to sign the real OTA updates. Probably not. To easy. It happened to dish network, and has kept lotsa peeps watching TV. Kickin Chicken baby. So it does happen just not often.
Who knows I'm sure when it happens it will be 1 slick quick dirty lil hack.
Bhang

2 days after I got mine I rooted it. Was scared to death, i didn't have the funds to just run out and get another one at full price. So i took the risk, and rooted. I'm happy as a lark.

i've rooted around a bit -- renamed ota certs file to block updates, relocated browser cache to sd, etc, but i'm holding off on flashing untill i have a really good reason to.

r00ted R30 G1 White
the day i got the unit for my gf for a early xmas gift i looked at it and it was at R29 i got all the stuff needed and flashed the unit with the recovery image and then to R30 happy happy JOY JOY
share your excitement , to all the haters out there just wait it out but your time will come soon he he maybe later but u never know

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I hope that 1 guy got his flashed
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That one guy is me. Who stupidly hit update last night

how to UN-root?

Well, I just realized that I jumped into flashing my G1 and getting root access before I was ready/before it was necessary. So now I want to go back to RC33 official firmware, but now since i'm rooted, the official RC33 update.zip file won't work. So i now have a rooted RC29 official firmware, how do I unroot and get back up to RC33?

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Well, I just realized that I jumped into flashing my G1 and getting root access before I was ready/before it was necessary. So now I want to go back to RC33 official firmware, but now since i'm rooted, the official RC33 update.zip file won't work. So i now have a rooted RC29 official firmware, how do I unroot and get back up to RC33?
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Have you heard of the word search?Do some work then being lazy.

Funny. I searched google, came across 2 threads of this very same nature filled with people telling us "lazy folks" to google and search. I also searched the forums directly, same threads and no other threads I could find related to this. And on google, I tried multiple search terms and phrases and noone had a definitive answer, if at all.
So please stop saying "search and stop being lazy" and just help, because you don't know if we all have tried to search or not. Perhaps if you help someone, we can actually come up fruitful in our search results.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=g1+android+unroot
first entry

here are those threads in question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478856
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478873
and i couldn't simply reply to the threads because the mods were so quick to close them. Seems like everyone here has something against helping people restore to factory than upgrade to custom.

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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=g1+android+unroot
first entry
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Well, seeing as how I already stated that I did indeed try to google using multiple search terms and phrases, then you might assume I already came across that result. I did indeed come across that result and I've already tried that method. If you would actually read instead of being so quick to judge my ability to find information, upon trying to reinstall paid apps and manually updating to RC33, it failed, meaning that the phone is somehow still rooted and that I'm not sure what to do at this point. I'm stuck at what looks to be like the official RC29 with no way to manually update and I cannot get my paid apps off of the market still (nor are they showing up).
Hell, I'm not even sure if this pertains to the fact that the phone was rooted or not, but it certainly isn't what happened before I rooted (where I was able to successfully update to RC33 and download paid apps from the market as well as view them)
Now please, read that and see that I have tried all that I can from the little information that is out there. Don't think that I don't appreciate the dev community here, but you tend to only care and only help when it comes to flashing phones, not restoring them.

why bother
it doesnt make a darn bit of difference, it just taking out crap that may in the future stop you from doing somthing you want to do, the phone doesn't work any differently, rooted or un rooted, I just can't think of a reason why somebody would WANT to go back, this is probably the cause of the resistance you feel, not a conspiracy to keep rooted phones, just that way...ROOTED
I'd say just don't bother and don't go typing in commands like a madman, and everything will be OK.
it seems that JF is dedicated to continue his work on the test signed updates, why do somthing that makes no difference? Just be lazy, or spend that time reading up on common linux commands.
bhang

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it doesnt make a darn bit of difference, it just taking out crap that may in the future stop you from doing somthing you want to do, the phone doesn't work any differently, rooted or un rooted, I just can't think of a reason why somebody would WANT to go back, this is probably the cause of the resistance you feel, not a conspiracy to keep rooted phones, just that way...ROOTED
I'd say just don't bother and don't go typing in commands like a madman, and everything will be OK.
it seems that JF is dedicated to continue his work on the test signed updates, why do somthing that makes no difference? Just be lazy, or spend that time reading up on common linux commands.
bhang
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its not that at all man. i cant even get my paid apps back. i bought the apps because i really liked them and used them on a daily basis, so i dont want to just give them up just so i can say my phone is rooted. Thanks for the reassurance though,but until i can do soemthing really useful with root access (installing other OSs) thenim sticking to official unmodified and updated firmware

paid apps and rom flashes/upgrades
im not sure you will get your paid apps back, but little is known about how the paid apps work.
they may be keyed to imei, but it doesn't seem so or you wouldn't have had a problem, my theory is that there is no security ie: 1 guy pays and anybody can use the copy of the app he paid for, I dunno and I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT PIRACY.
I am just theorizing on how your paid apps will or will not follow your phone after flashes.
it should just keep a list of what you d/l'd attached to your gmail login, I like to see more talk about how the apps are secured, NOT ABOUT HOW TO CIRCUMVENT the security, but how the apps are tied to the buyer/phone/rom installed.
I swapped apps from one g1 to another via astro and the sd card but they were all free, it just so happened to be the day the paid apps debut.
no piracy talk, just any facts you may have as to the above questions
bhang

Cupcake on T-Mobile G1

I've just received a new T-Mobile G1 and I am pretty desperate to update to a cupcake build. There's loads of guide here that will walk me through it no problem, but there are some things they don't explain fully (or at least, I can't find them).
Will I lose all my contacts and messages when I update? Will I lose all my T-Mobile data (like message settings, 3G settings etc.?). Will Market and everything else still work? What will stop functioning correctly when I do upgrade, specifically for T-Mobile in the UK?
Thanks a lot!
Tony

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I've just received a new T-Mobile G1 and I am pretty desperate to update to a cupcake build. There's loads of guide here that will walk me through it no problem, but there are some things they don't explain fully (or at least, I can't find them).
Will I lose all my contacts and messages when I update? Will I lose all my T-Mobile data (like message settings, 3G settings etc.?). Will Market and everything else still work? What will stop functioning correctly when I do upgrade, specifically for T-Mobile in the UK?
Thanks a lot!
Tony
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You will lose messages, you will not lose any T-Mobile data, you will not lose any contacts. I suggest you check out Haykuro's thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498026
You will need root. And I suggest you go with haykuro's 4.5 build. I won't go in to any more detail, just do some research in haykuro's thread and others on how to get root, etc. Good luck.

Wel.. Where can i start? The cupcake your possibly reading about isnt fully working on G1 Yet..
I recomend you try one of the magic roms ported to G1, Preferbly 5.0H
Root is easy to achieve, Just read around.. Plenty ahve asked how to do this before, so please dont make new threads, Just read please

If you are referring to the ''Cupcake'' that T-Mobile is releasing this Easter then all these guys are wrong. If you do update to HTC Sapphire it will void your warranty and there's a small(Or large if you don't follow directions) that you could brick your brand new G1. The ''Cupcake'' that T-Mobile will release or at least hoping it will, will be coming in the next days. This update is 100% safe and will not do anything harmful to your g1. It wont even delete anything.

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If you are referring to the ''Cupcake'' that T-Mobile is releasing this Easter then all these guys are wrong. If you do update to HTC Sapphire it will void your warranty and there's a small(Or large if you don't follow directions) that you could brick your brand new G1. The ''Cupcake'' that T-Mobile will release or at least hoping it will, will be coming in the next days. This update is 100% safe and will not do anything harmful to your g1. It wont even delete anything.
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And as I've said in other threads re: Cupcake, I say we wait for JF to do his thing with it.

blackknightavalon said:
And as I've said in other threads re: Cupcake, I say we wait for JF to do his thing with it.
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That's exactly what I'm planning to do. I was hard set against root when I first got my g1, but I have seen the light and enjoyed my rooted g1. Thank goodness for the jfupdater app

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And as I've said in other threads re: Cupcake, I say we wait for JF to do his thing with it.
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Huh? That has nothing to do with my post other. My post was answering his question about ''CupCake'' from T-Mobile and not some other Rooted Cupcake. I understand that there are other cupcakes but the best will be T-Mobile for the time being.
I think I said CupCake enough times

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Huh? That has nothing to do with my post other. My post was answering his question about ''CupCake'' from T-Mobile and not some other Rooted Cupcake.
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Actually, he asked about *a* Cupcake build - he made no mention of an official build, therefore it is reasonable to presume that he is referring to *one that is available* and not *one that isn't*.
I understand that there are other cupcakes but the best will be T-Mobile for the time being.
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Really? For the time being, there is no T-Mobile Cupcake build so how it can it be best? Granted, if and when it comes out, it may well be superior, but that is by no means certain since Haykuros builds are getting better all the time.
If the OP is waiting on an official T-Mobile Cupcake update, I suggest there is no point asking around here since if he leaves his phone with a vanilla build, he'll get the update soon enough, if and when it is released.
Regards,
Dave

Thanks guys. I'm not waiting on the t-mobile build as I have little faith in them releasing it any time soon. I'll ask my question in a different way; what's the best build to put on my UK t-mobile G1? With regards to battery life and features? Thanks

I suggest you read the threads about rooting your G1. The first thing you have to do is downgrade to RC7, and get root. Then, don't accept any OTA (from T-Mobile) upgrades if you should get a notice.
After downgrading and getting root, read up on some of the different builds. You can go to JF's RC9, which is a modded version of the official UK one with root. I would really advise you to do this first, so you will know how to flash your roms, and how to flash the radio.
It will give you a stable version which won't accept OTA updates so you don't have to worry about losing root. (Plug your phone into a power source, or at the very least, be sure your battery has a full charge while flashing, and don't ever turn your phone off while it is flashing.)
After that, read threads like the one comparing the two Magic versions. 5.xG is the google version, and 5.xH is the HTC version.
Once you have gotten root and gone to RC9, you will be able to do something called a Nandroid backup of your phone. You will then be able to try both versions of magic, and also to restore your phone to RC9 if they don't work out for you without losing anything. (Another reason to try a more official mod before trying the Magic ones).
edit: I just found this on the Magic wiki page. It looks helpful: http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/wiki/PageName
Have fun with it!

[Q] For those who just obtained a new captivate

I wanted to start a thread for those who just obtained a new captivate mostly for my own purposes. I am looking to obtain a list of action in the correct priority to improve the captivate experience. I know certain things need to be done in certain orders and it would be great if there was a running list with current links to resource those items.
For instance I am still running Stock 2.1 Update 1
I know I want to tether without contract additions. So much needs to happen before I can do so. I probably need to unlock the phone, update to the latest rev, remove the road blocks restricting unpaid tethering, etc.
Can anyone create a road map with links to accomplish this task... thank you from a long time member.

There are already guides out there if you search that will tell you how to do it. For 2.2 its as easy as rooting then deleting/freezing a .apk file
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brokebackbear said:
I wanted to start a thread for those who just obtained a new captivate mostly for my own purposes. I am looking to obtain a list of action in the correct priority to improve the captivate experience. I know certain things need to be done in certain orders and it would be great if there was a running list with current links to resource those items.
For instance I am still running Stock 2.1 Update 1
I know I want to tether without contract additions. So much needs to happen before I can do so. I probably need to unlock the phone, update to the latest rev, remove the road blocks restricting unpaid tethering, etc.
Can anyone create a road map with links to accomplish this task... thank you from a long time member.
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lol are u serious? Theres a ton of stuff that guides u on how to unlock ur phone. U can just go to youtube and fallow the directions on http://www.youtube.com/user/MobileTechVideos

japr2821 said:
lol are u serious? Theres a ton of stuff that guides u on how to unlock ur phone. U can just go to youtube and fallow the directions on http://www.youtube.com/user/MobileTechVideos
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I am serious... this is a serious site. OF course there are videos out there but the correct order has not been published. For instance any idiot can upgrade to 2.2 but sadly unless they have been told to unlock first they cannot go back to 2.1. That's the kind of stuff I was talking about. You don't have to be mean. I have been here since 2008 and never been asked if I was serious.

unlock refers to it being locked to a carier. for permsions this is all linux/unix/terminal related and we use the terms root and super user. macs being a terminal type of interface also use these terms.
to be rooted means you have access to the root of the file system and to have superuser permissions. root of the file system is described by the character "/" this is similat to c:\ in windows but terminal doesn't have letter designations on drives.
to enable tethering the best way is to either update to 2.2 via kies, root and freeze an apk that will require you to have a tethering data plan. or the alternative is to install a rom for an i9000 or other phone such as the i9010 armani or the chinese i9088 or the t-mobile vibrant, though vibrant roms may cause battery drain, that has been my experience anyhow.

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I am serious... this is a serious site. OF course there are videos out there but the correct order has not been published. For instance any idiot can upgrade to 2.2 but sadly unless they have been told to unlock first they cannot go back to 2.1. That's the kind of stuff I was talking about. You don't have to be mean. I have been here since 2008 and never been asked if I was serious.
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If u really mean recent captivate from at&t. they probably come woth froo loaded already. unless u got some left over stock from earliser batch.
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tg9413 said:
If u really mean recent captivate from at&t. they probably come woth froo loaded already. unless u got some left over stock from earliser batch.
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Wrong. Just got a Captivate from AT&T last month, because my old phone was pretty much unusable and I wanted something with more functionality. Still 2.1, and I attempted to upgrade to 2.2 following Samsung's instructions thoroughly and ended up with a bricked phone. Thankfully I was still in warranty since it was amazingly even less than 30 days that had passed, but still.
AT&T does not ship out the Captivate with 2.2, nor will they upgrade it for you. You get it 2.1, and have to upgrade it yourself. And if you happen to screw up somehow and actually hard brick your phone, to where it won't even turn on, they won't fix it. It's considered user error. Samsung will, but that's not the point here.

Delete....wrong thread.
But since I'm here......see below.

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I am serious... this is a serious site. OF course there are videos out there but the correct order has not been published. For instance any idiot can upgrade to 2.2 but sadly unless they have been told to unlock first they cannot go back to 2.1. That's the kind of stuff I was talking about. You don't have to be mean. I have been here since 2008 and never been asked if I was serious.
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I have never unlocked my phone and have gone back to 2.1 literally a hundred times. Looks like some reading/learning is in order.
PS. Might want to go ahead and purchase/make your jig so you will have it when you need it.

Just got my captivate replaced at an att tech center yesterday and the new one came with froyo 2.2 preloaded.

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Wrong. Just got a Captivate from AT&T last month, because my old phone was pretty much unusable and I wanted something with more functionality. Still 2.1, and I attempted to upgrade to 2.2 following Samsung's instructions thoroughly and ended up with a bricked phone. Thankfully I was still in warranty since it was amazingly even less than 30 days that had passed, but still.
AT&T does not ship out the Captivate with 2.2, nor will they upgrade it for you. You get it 2.1, and have to upgrade it yourself. And if you happen to screw up somehow and actually hard brick your phone, to where it won't even turn on, they won't fix it. It's considered user error. Samsung will, but that's not the point here.
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Wrong... I just replaced my captivate a couple weeks ago and it came with 2.2. I have seen several people reporting for the last 2 months since froyo released that it was already on their phone. I remember one post stating they got their phone shipped 2 days after official release and it was already loaded
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Captivates ARE in fact shipping with 2.2 on them right now. I have several sitting at my desk right now.

Yeah, you need to read... Everyone started in your same shoes. But not everyone asked for step by step guidelines to do things to their phones. So, do your research, then if/when u get stuck or lost, and there are no threads out there to help, ask away!
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Here are the steps in order:
1. Root
2. Unlock
3. Flash ROM
4. Never look back

Adding rooted features without rooting.

Side loading
Apparently there is an update that has to be pushed to your phone from AT&T, but hardly anyone has received it yet. People in this thread are working on adding this feature without the update. This method will allow you to install non android market apps, but so far it disables your mms capability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111278
Free tethering/wifi hotspot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980591
By changing a few settings, you can have tethering/use wifi hotspot without adding a tethering plan from AT&T.
Maybe we could add future developments to this thread as they become available. I like the idea of leaving my phone stock so that it will automatically update.

Are you talking about the "silent" OTA that enables side-loading?
If so, and if by hardly anyone, you mean "hardly anyone here on XDA," it may be because they are rooted or otherwise running a custom ROM that will prevent them from getting OTA updates.
If you mean hardly anyone here on XDA that is bone stock, well, that might be true. And it also might be true that the recently discovered method of enabling sideloading will help some people, who don't mind their mms broken until some workaround fixes it.
Or they can root, and be done with it. There's nothing that will ever be OTA that I would want to get OTA anyway -- it will be available here shortly after.
The only excuse people have to not root is that it *appears* to be difficult. It really isn't. You can enjoy the same exact phone with a stock ROM, but with the added perks that rooting brings. Yes, that includes sideloading. And SIM unlock. And no more bloatware.
However, if this sideloading trick can be perfected, and it will keep people who otherwise don't have the patience to root their phones and as a result would just screw them up, causing them to further not spend the time to read and search, instead firing off 1000's of redundant "Halp Me!" posts, then that's a good thing.

ehh I would just rather use adb.... (if I was stock)

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ehh I would just rather use adb.... (if I was stock)
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Or that. My friggin' rant post from hell was long winded enough for me to forgo mentioning much more.

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ehh I would just rather use adb.... (if I was stock)
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Yeah, OP, you should definitely include a link to the adb method, or the Sideload Wonder Machine method.
I used SWM to install Swype weeks before I got the AT&T non market option (which was a week before I rooted).

ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
Yeah, OP, you should definitely include a link to the adb method, or the Sideload Wonder Machine method.
I used SWM to install Swype weeks before I got the AT&T non market option (which was a week before I rooted).
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The adb method for sideloading an app is already discussed in mudknot's stickied guide.

Supposedly there is still an update floating around for unknown sources. If I happen to get my hands on it I will post it.
That's the only reason I haven't updated the side loading part of the guide. If the update gets pushed to every phone with in the month then it would be obsolete quick. I might add it just to have the most information possible... Though I will not put this method on there, because there is no reason you should have to give something up to gain something (captivate anyone?)..

Still stock here, without the non-market update.
No issues at all using the SWM. I didn't like that whole stupid "dropbox" method mentioned. It's easier and faster to just to use "disk drive" mode to copy the apk files onto the PC.

mudknot2005 said:
Supposedly there is still an update floating around for unknown sources. If I happen to get my hands on it I will post it.
That's the only reason I haven't updated the side loading part of the guide. If the update gets pushed to every phone with in the month then it would be obsolete quick. I might add it just to have the most information possible... Though I will not put this method on there, because there is no reason you should have to give something up to gain something (captivate anyone?)..
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Absolutely agreed. Your guide should be reserved for known methods that provide the desired result without sacrificing other functionality.
I really don't see what all the excitement is about, regarding this new method. I mean, side loading has been a non-issue for rooted devices from the start, now it's *officially* a non-issue, even for bone stock devices.
This new method might have been a useful workaround for stock phones before ATT changed course on sideloading, now not so much.