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[Q] How do they know?

Hello all,
new user...this place rocks...and so do you all..etc etc
I was just wondering how they (USCC) know if I root my phone or not?
It's almost like they beg us to void the warranty by not giving any updates or accurate release info....could that be apart of the big plan? Lure us into this excellent online community...(which quite possibly could be an average idiots downfall)?
Couldn't I just load up the stock everything, and they would never know?
cheers

shakeyourmatt said:
Hello all,
new user...this place rocks...and so do you all..etc etc
I was just wondering how they (USCC) know if I root my phone or not?
It's almost like they beg us to void the warranty by not giving any updates or accurate release info....could that be apart of the big plan? Lure us into this excellent online community...(which quite possibly could be an average idiots downfall)?
Couldn't I just load up the stock everything, and they would never know?
cheers
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Depending on what you do they can't. If you have Froyo then obviously you have loaded unofficial software and they could see that. Otherwise I am not sure what you mean by load up on stock everything. If you did that on Eclair then I am not sure why you would want to root to begin with.

all you have to do, no matter what you flash to, is use Odin and you can go back to stock 2.1. even if you where using the fryoy leak with custom boot animations and all kinds of other mods...as long as you can boot in download mode you can go backto the way this phone was right out of the box

As of now this is only possible for mesmerize users, showcase has no 2.1 odin.
Swyped from my Mesmerize

Actually, I doubt USCC even checks. When you take your phone if for warranty, they just send it to the manufacturer and if the manufacturer (samsung) says that it's not warranty worthy then it isn't. At least that's how it worked for my TouchPro.. But all root does is add some files to the system. If you remove those two files it's like your phone was never rooted.

If you only rooted & it's stock firmware, hit the menu key while you're on the home screen then hit settings>factory data reset (THIS DOES NOT TOUCH DATA ON YOUR SD CARD). No way for them to know then. Make sure you have all your data backed up onto your SD card before doing this.

I've actually taken my phone in to the USCC shop a couple of times, the store manager thinks mine is so much better than his because of the theme and density and stuff. He asked me how it was so fast and I told him it was a secret
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they CAN see if you are rooted and you can take that to the bank. but because of a certain thing called the Bill of Rights they can not do anything with the information.
ya know when you download apps and it warns you about how it can collect data?
well every single carrier in the world CAN see EXACTLY what you have on your phone with regards to Firmware and Kernel.... that is a 100% guarentee. i know for a fact they can.
it is the EXACT same way that the network knows if your phone needs an update.
it pings your phone and requests firmware information. if its old it tells you there is an update, if not, it doesnt.
on my old EVO if you were running a non stock firmware, or even one that was modified you would not be told of updates because the network knows your not on a stock rom. the phone sends the servers information it doesnt recognize in regards to what you are running, or it sends info that the servers have listed as not eligible for upgrades and it denies you the upgrade.
now, JUST rooting, thats a little different. it needs more info than just "what firmware do you have Mr. Phone?"
but i can guarentee you that the phone IS sending data to the carriers about what it is running.

Official Sideloading for Cappy

http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...pdate-to-allow-sideloading-on-select-devices/

Here come the bricks. Will you go back to stock just for a sideloading ota update when you can do this on any custom rom?
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.

According to 99% of the threads here on XDA, if you even look at your Cappy the wrong way you run the risk of bricking it. lol

cappysw10 said:
Here come the bricks. Will you go back to stock just for a sideloading ota update when you can do this on any custom rom?
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
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KonaZXIII said:
According to 99% of the threads here on XDA, if you even look at your Cappy the wrong way you run the risk of bricking it. lol
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FALSE!
the ONLY WAY to brick your device perminantly is to have a bad bootloader flash.
OTA will not mess with custom roms.
OTA for this update will not touch bootloaders.
i dont even have this problem or ATT but even I say thank you for not being dicks anymore ATT!!

Will this be rolling out to Eclair users or just Froyo? And if you're on Eclair will this OTA include the Froyo upgrade? Anyone gotten this OTA yet?

umm...? if you receive OTA updates, you will already be OTA updatED to froyo. no?
so if you are still on eclair... umm.. wait!.. why would anyone still be on eclair?
oh... im scared of flash video and voice search... lol

TRusselo said:
FALSE!
the ONLY WAY to brick your device perminantly is to have a bad bootloader flash.
OTA will not mess with custom roms.
OTA for this update will not touch bootloaders.
i dont even have this problem or ATT but even I say thank you for not being dicks anymore ATT!!
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I was (mostly) being facetious there. I've been flashing and modding my phone for a while now and it has been next to impossible to hard brick.

well dont say stuff that can confuse the noobs please.

Anyone actually receive the update yet? Anyone who did, straight stock, rooted, any other notable differences?
Can we be connected via Wifi? Need to be on data network?
I just tried to see if it was available to me... nothing at 1pm in Atlanta

TRusselo said:
FALSE!
the ONLY WAY to brick your device perminantly is to have a bad bootloader flash.
OTA will not mess with custom roms.
OTA for this update will not touch bootloaders.
i dont even have this problem or ATT but even I say thank you for not being dicks anymore ATT!!
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AT&T could f#@% up a wet dream. This could also be a plot to void your warranty. "You loaded an unauthorized app which caused your trouble, not our problem. Oh, btw, we'll sell you an Infuse cheap."
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.

Can at least one post in any forum I've looked at site a source or show something more believable then one crappy blurry pic of a random computer screen. Heck why is it not even the whole screen? What is that a pic of, other then something somebody made up who was not even good enough to use photoshop?

TRusselo said:
umm...? if you receive OTA updates, you will already be OTA updatED to froyo. no?
so if you are still on eclair... umm.. wait!.. why would anyone still be on eclair?
oh... im scared of flash video and voice search... lol
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Froyo was never rolled out OTA was it? Thought it was a Kies update.
I'm helping my extremely tech-illiterate friend with her Captivate and I want to figure out exactly what the details are of the various updates so that I don't scare her with anything
I'm from I9000-land and I flash every couple of days But I'm a bit unfamiliar with the Captivate scene.

No they tried an OTA but it ended up bricking alot of devices due to no 3 button support. To be honest if it is not a kies update I would never touch it. To many things to go wrong with OTA. But we will see. It will most likely be 2.2 update

my question is would it cause any issues on a rooted stock froyo ?

I was just on-line with the Technical Support chat via the AT&T site and I asked the rep if she could confirm that this OTA update was even available. And she replied that she doesn't even see this update for the Captivate on her system. Not sure what's true or not...

I hope it's here in time for free plants vs. zombies, May 31st! I don't want my wife to have to pay. (I already have the Amazon Appstore on mine, of course).

ScottyNuttz said:
I hope it's here in time for free plants vs. zombies, May 31st! I don't want my wife to have to pay. (I already have the Amazon Appstore on mine, of course).
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Just grab it from the Amazon website and then once AT&T allows sideloading you can install the appstore and then install the game on your phone.

At least ATT is going in the right direction, however, they need to update all their android phones to have hsupa also then having a stock phone is not so bad but I have been able to sideload with out using a computer since getting the phone enabling non market apps since the first day on my captivate *Launch date*. I have been using HSUPA ever since I started using Custom roms after the first froyo leak was released by DG.. So nothing to really effect me at all with this news, but it is good that any future phones released will have at least this enabled..
Cheers,
Charlie

dmnall said:
At least ATT is going in the right direction, however, they need to update all their android phones to have hsupa also then having a stock phone is not so bad but I have been able to sideload with out using a computer since getting the phone enabling non market apps since the first day on my captivate *Launch date*. I have been using HSUPA ever since I started using Custom roms after the first froyo leak was released by DG.. So nothing to really effect me at all with this news, but it is good that any future phones released will have at least this enabled..
Cheers,
Charlie
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+1
they may be late to the party but at least they deserve a lil love for moving in the right direction and at least in one regard listening to their customers. Now if they would just be smart enough to realize/admit charging for tethering is a scam and recognize the marketing bonanza "Free to Tether" would be.

TRusselo said:
FALSE!
the ONLY WAY to brick your device perminantly is to have a bad bootloader flash.
OTA will not mess with custom roms.
OTA for this update will not touch bootloaders.
i dont even have this problem or ATT but even I say thank you for not being dicks anymore ATT!!
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Don't tell that to other members of the Galaxy S family. OTA updates have occasionally done worse.

This problem is getting annoying...

I was running Inspired Ace. All was good, and I decided to flash LeeDroid.
I used the EXT4 conversion/wipe, then installed LeeDroid.
I had tons of problem with LeeDroid, such as messaging being very slow, FCs when trying to make/receive a phone call, etc. It wasn't my cup of tea... so I decided to go back to Inspired Ace.
Restored the backup, and things aren't working like it used to:
*Flash videos embedded on websites sometimes crash the browser
*Netflix doesn't work at all, regardless of which fix I try (rmk's or fenny's)
*Youtube lags/stutters like mad
So, I did a fresh install:
*Wiping data, system, cache
*Installing fresh Inspired Ace
First boot, LeeDroid default background was showing in the Inspired Ace. There were 2 of every system apps (2 calculators, 2 call histories, etc).
Wiped data/system/cache again, and installed fresh Inspired Ace again (downloaded a new copy, incase the last copy was corrupted).
Same deal... 2 of every system app, and LeeDroid default background.
I decided "whatever" at this point, and installed all my apps, and this time, like previously, nothing that involves videos work (flash embed, netflix fix, youtube).
What's going on?
TL;DR- I installed LeeDroid, didn't like it, did a fresh install of Inspired Ace, components of LeeDroid was still left behind despite formatting system/data/cache, and apps, such as browser, netflix, youtube, doesn't work.

1. Copy ur backup to computer, reformat ur SD, restore the backup to SD.
2. Go to recovery, and clear data, cache and dalvik cache.
3. Try restoring ur back up now. It should work, and not have traces of anything. Apps like dolphin browser store data on sdcard.

Just get a warranty replacement.

knarfl1 said:
Just get a warranty replacement.
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What? Seriously?
That'll help persuade HTC to ease up on their locked bootloader policy. Lots.
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diablo009 said:
1. Copy ur backup to computer, reformat ur SD, restore the backup to SD.
2. Go to recovery, and clear data, cache and dalvik cache.
3. Try restoring ur back up now. It should work, and not have traces of anything. Apps like dolphin browser store data on sdcard.
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Forgot to mention but yes, I have tried formatting my SD card, as well try a brand new one that hasn't been used with this phone before.

Just throwing this out, but would running the RUU possibly get you back to a blank slate from which to start over?
I've never run it myself, but my assumption of what it ends up doing is pretty much returning the phone to its out-of-the-box state, ignoring what's on the phone at the time (aside from S-On/s-off.
I would also assume you'd have to re-root.
Just a thought.
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Also, running the RUU (the new one found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042 ) from HBOOT as Scott_S mentioned would also update your radio if you have not already done so. However, as I found out, you will either have to install a file explorer to delete the PD98IMG.zip from the sd card, or install ROM Manager to boot to CWM in order to flash back to Inspired Ace, or whatever ROM you decide on. I did the same thing two days ago. If you boot to HBOOT with the update file on your ZIP all i could do was install or reboot (as it scans for update then only prompts install and if you say no, it prompts reboot) and the RUU does not include Rom Manger. You probably already knew that but just throwing it out there.
EDIT:Forgot to mention, this RUU is already rooted. No re-rooting necessary other than that, same as original stock un-rooted RUU

Scott_S said:
What? Seriously?
That'll help persuade HTC to ease up on their locked bootloader policy. Lots.
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No worries. The phone will be refurbed and sold for profit again (or fixed and given back as a warranty replacement).
Fyi it is not HTC that wants to lock/encrypt the BLs: It's ATT.
You gonna tell everyone to stop tethering for free?

Scott_S said:
Just throwing this out, but would running the RUU possibly get you back to a blank slate from which to start over?
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Yea, why not. I'll first try the "cracked" RUU, and if that doesn't work, do a full unroot, and reroot it.
And if THAT doesn't work... I don't know.
willwalk93 said:
Also, running the RUU (the new one found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058042 ) from HBOOT as Scott_S mentioned would also update your radio if you have not already done so.
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Yea, already have 06.06.30.

knarfl1 said:
No worries. The phone will be refurbed and sold for profit again (or fixed and given back as a warranty replacement).
Fyi it is not HTC that wants to lock/encrypt the BLs: It's ATT.
You gonna tell everyone to stop tethering for free?
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I guarantee even carrier unlocked versions will (and already DO)have signed bootloaders, and I doubt its all att. When people brick their phones, send them in for warranty replacement, its still costing HTC money no matter how you look at it. At the very least, manhours. It might not take long to fix, but it adds up. If they figure the cost for letting us do what we want to do with bootloaders/kernels/roms is more than what they lose by pissing us (very small percentage of total users) modders off, then they have a motive ($) to keep us out.
When you hack a phone, YOU(not you specifically, end user), take a risk knowing you may mess up and brick your phone, if you return it as a brick, the HTC devs are not dumb. I'm sure they know exactly how it happened when they get it.
I still have a bricked atrix that I paid almost full price for from trying to crack the POS. Didn't really feel I had the right to return it, when I f'd up trying to find a way around the bootloader.
And people who use theirs phones as their entire internet service tethering for free don't help either

di11igaf said:
I guarantee even carrier unlocked versions will (and already DO)have signed bootloaders, and I doubt its all att. When people brick their phones, send them in for warranty replacement, its still costing HTC money no matter how you look at it. At the very least, manhours. It might not take long to fix, but it adds up. If they figure the cost for letting us do what we want to do with bootloaders/kernels/roms is more than what they lose by pissing us (very small percentage of total users) modders off, then they have a motive ($) to keep us out.
When you hack a phone, YOU(not you specifically, end user), take a risk knowing you may mess up and brick your phone, if you return it as a brick, the HTC devs are not dumb. I'm sure they know exactly how it happened when they get it.
I still have a bricked atrix that I paid almost full price for from trying to crack the POS. Didn't really feel I had the right to return it, when I f'd up trying to find a way around the bootloader.
And people who use theirs phones as their entire internet service tethering for free don't help either
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Exactly.
It's the attitude expressed by the post you and I responded to that doesn't help our situation. It doesn't matter whether it's ATT or HTC that's driving the bootloader thing, the end result, and most likely the motivation behind it, is the same.
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Printerscape said:
Yea, why not. I'll first try the "cracked" RUU, and if that doesn't work, do a full unroot, and reroot it.
And if THAT doesn't work... I don't know.
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Doesn't work, after flashing MDJ's ViVO.
*sigh*

di11igaf said:
I guarantee even carrier unlocked versions will (and already DO)have signed bootloaders, and I doubt its all att. When people brick their phones, send them in for warranty replacement, its still costing HTC money no matter how you look at it. At the very least, manhours. It might not take long to fix, but it adds up. If they figure the cost for letting us do what we want to do with bootloaders/kernels/roms is more than what they lose by pissing us (very small percentage of total users) modders off, then they have a motive ($) to keep us out.
When you hack a phone, YOU(not you specifically, end user), take a risk knowing you may mess up and brick your phone, if you return it as a brick, the HTC devs are not dumb. I'm sure they know exactly how it happened when they get it.
I still have a bricked atrix that I paid almost full price for from trying to crack the POS. Didn't really feel I had the right to return it, when I f'd up trying to find a way around the bootloader.
And people who use theirs phones as their entire internet service tethering for free don't help either
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Product returns are part of doing business. With over 100 million accounts, there will be millions of phones returned every year for whatever reason. Some people got the Inspire just to tide them over for 30 days until the Atrix was available (or got the Atrix and found out it is a turd and returned it for an Inspire.)
As for the enthuasist segment, though small in terms of percentage, size of the community has passed the critical mass long time ago. BTW, HTC is NOT locking their bootloaders. [updated]
Howbeit should we try to appease AT&T to stay in their good graces? Then modders should:
- Stop using free tethering.
- Get off the unlimited data plan gained via iP2 scheme and go back to 250MB/2Gb plans.
- Removing tweaks that improve data speed.
- Removing hacked Netflix app.
- Un-root.
- Only use phones sold by AT&T on AT&T network.
- etc...
I'm sorry your Atrix is bricked. Sell its parts on eBay?

You did not mention wiping the dalvik cache. That is a must.

Scott_S said:
Exactly.
It's the attitude expressed by the post you and I responded to that doesn't help our situation. It doesn't matter whether it's ATT or HTC that's driving the bootloader thing, the end result, and most likely the motivation behind it, is the same.
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Haha. I spoke one minute too soon. Read the news from HTC about locking bootloaders. Your concern is unwarranted.

Printerscape said:
Doesn't work, after flashing MDJ's ViVO.
*sigh*
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That's not a completely pure RUU, though. Stock recovery and hboot has been removed from that.
Try the pure RUU.
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When you do the EXT4 wipe can it still read the files on your sd card? I did my flashing with another SD than the one I use normally so there was not chance of messing my card up. Do I need to reformat the every day sd card?
Thanks,
Thorsgal

knarfl1 said:
Haha. I spoke one minute too soon. Read the news from HTC about locking bootloaders. Your concern is unwarranted.
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You're absolutely correct... Now.
I wasn't aware at the time of those earlier posts of the latest development, that HTC had gone ahead and scrapped the locked bootloader thing.
Still, I think the least we can do in return for HTC doing right by us, is to mod these phones with a clear head, not carlessly, educating ourselves prior to undertaking some of these processes, and exhaust all resources available to us in trying to solve any problems that result, that are of our own making.
If that fails, then the noble thing to do is ask them how much it would cost to "repair" our ****-ups, not pass the burden back on them under the guise of a "warranty replacement" for supposedly "defective phone."
It's lying, and it just feels morally wrong.
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Scott_S said:
You're absolutely correct... Now.
I wasn't aware at the time of those earlier posts of the latest development, that HTC had gone ahead and scrapped the locked bootloader thing.
Still, I think the least we can do in return for HTC doing right by us, is to mod these phones with a clear head, not carlessly, educating ourselves prior to undertaking some of these processes, and exhaust all resources available to us in trying to solve any problems that result, that are of our own making.
If that fails, then the noble thing to do is ask them how much it would cost to "repair" our ****-ups, not pass the burden back on them under the guise of a "warranty replacement" for supposedly "defective phone."
It's lying, and it just feels morally wrong.
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Exactly. I wish more people were honorable and if they bricked their phones, write it off as tuition in the school of hard knocks and move on. Or, since it is pretty difficult to hard-brick a HTC device, take the time to reflash it stock, then see about a return.
Just a few people not knowing what they are doing and either returning their devices, or trying up HTC's support can mean HTC will re-lock bootloaders just so they don't have to deal with that element, as the returns hit them in the pocketbook big time.

mlts22 said:
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Just a few people not knowing what they are doing and either returning their devices, or trying up HTC's support can mean HTC will re-lock bootloaders just so they don't have to deal with that element, as the returns hit them in the pocketbook big time.
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Some people just waltz into doing these things thinking everything is a "one-click" process, for some phones maybe, but these newer ones it's not quite that simple.
And I think a lot of people who end up doing as you illustrated, warranty returning/tying up their tech support, don't even realize they're dealing with a "*soft*-brick," not a perma-brick -- something that, if they could get out of panic mode long enough, they would realize the fixes are at their fingertips, via XDA.
Apologies to the OP, didn't want to derail the thread, just kinda happened that way...
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root/no root

Im coming from a droid x and find to root this alittle challenging. While I cant get root I havent found one that I like. My whole purpose if to just get rid of bloat. After my last attempt I got crappy reception and wanted to unroot. I did and reception was back to normal. After all the problems and what with the gingerbread files I didnt want to go that route with that radio. So what are my options? With the last root attempt I used the 1 click method, was that my problem? Do I need to read up more on adb commands. Or should I say screw it and stay stock? There are multiple roms out there but havent found one for my particular needs. I know I bought this phone to learn more and be a challenge but this is trully a pain in the ass. So comments advise is greatly appreciated.

blueis300 said:
Im coming from a droid x and find to root this alittle challenging. While I cant get root I havent found one that I like. My whole purpose if to just get rid of bloat. After my last attempt I got crappy reception and wanted to unroot. I did and reception was back to normal. After all the problems and what with the gingerbread files I didnt want to go that route with that radio. So what are my options? With the last root attempt I used the 1 click method, was that my problem? Do I need to read up more on adb commands. Or should I say screw it and stay stock? There are multiple roms out there but havent found one for my particular needs. I know I bought this phone to learn more and be a challenge but this is trully a pain in the ass. So comments advise is greatly appreciated.
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I wouldn't give up if i were you, rooting is the way to go. And ya thunderbolt is "different" but it seems from here on out most lockdown phones will be this perplexing at times, but good news to use, some companies have given up and will open up there future phones boot loaders. And its not because it lock down it just because they weren't "meant to be rooted and optimized for the user".
It seems weird that your reception got worse due to rooting, i have not heard that problem before or seen it posted in these threads. Most of the complants from rooting is either having random reboots, or the unfortunate brick or root didn't actually work for them.
Just make sure your up to date with the froyo radio when you were rooted, I know you cant check now, but maybe you used an older one the auto root method was using? Its worth a check. The newest one has had some good reception Verizon sent in a OTA.
And i used an auto one click way and it worked for me so it may depend on what one you used. But its advised to use adb.
Also there are a lot of basic de-bloat roms out there, they are just buried at the end of this forum, and never get updated because once they are de-bloated there is not much left that needs to be updated.
And dont worry about the Gingerbread problems, I wish i never left Gingerbread, i have had more problems on froyo then i was on gingerbread. With froyo i still have problems, but Gingerbread seems to run so smoothly, and a new leak is hopefully around the corner, there was one up but it was taken down and senior moderators said its coming be patience.
hope this helps

All rooting does is give you access to system files. There's no way that it would mess up your radio.
I'm also curious where the "1 click method" is.

a simple search would lead you to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009969

SomeGuyDude said:
All rooting does is give you access to system files. There's no way that it would mess up your radio.
I'm also curious where the "1 click method" is.
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Well here is the file I was pointed to when I first started and I went from having no bars to 1x to 3g to 4g and all over the place.I guess I wont give up because I wanted an challenge but man this is different. More reading reading reading and find more on ADB.
http://depositfiles.com/files/wo74rmphi
Ill try for a couple more days after checking things out a bit.Thanks for the comments and help.

blueis300 said:
Well here is the file I was pointed to when I first started and I went from having no bars to 1x to 3g to 4g and all over the place.I guess I wont give up because I wanted an challenge but man this is different. More reading reading reading and find more on ADB.
http://depositfiles.com/files/wo74rmphi
Ill try for a couple more days after checking things out a bit.Thanks for the comments and help.
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Never seen that file. Stick to the development section of this forum and you should be gtg. Most of what you need is stickied at the top.
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otakueric said:
a simple search would lead you to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009969
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Thanks for the link, in my search I had a couple of other ways to do it but I did search.

Rooting is the only way to TRUELY enjoy this phone and all it has to offer IMO.

Ok well all of a sudden my phone cant receive call or make them but can make and receive texts? Any ideas on that. I got a phone call yesterday but it was a little wack. Called tech support and now no calls.

[Q] CASH for Root + Cyanogen, Chicago Area

Hello,
Been using Android for about a year now, and am looking for someone who wants to make some fast cash to get Cyanogen 7 on my phone. I'm currently running the myTouch 4G on T-Mo, and have Gingerbread 2.3.4 running.
I normally might attempt to do this myself, but knowing that I have to downgrade, and then Root, followed by the Cyanogen load... I'm too nervous that I'm going to achieve brick, not root.
Anyone interested in some [easy] money? Reply or PM me.
THx.

track40 said:
Hello,
Been using Android for about a year now, and am looking for someone who wants to make some fast cash to get Cyanogen 7 on my phone. I'm currently running the myTouch 4G on T-Mo, and have Gingerbread 2.3.4 running.
I normally might attempt to do this myself, but knowing that I have to downgrade, and then Root, followed by the Cyanogen load... I'm too nervous that I'm going to achieve brick, not root.
Anyone interested in some [easy] money? Reply or PM me.
THx.
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lol i'd love to but can't :\

track40 said:
Hello,
Been using Android for about a year now, and am looking for someone who wants to make some fast cash to get Cyanogen 7 on my phone. I'm currently running the myTouch 4G on T-Mo, and have Gingerbread 2.3.4 running.
I normally might attempt to do this myself, but knowing that I have to downgrade, and then Root, followed by the Cyanogen load... I'm too nervous that I'm going to achieve brick, not root.
Anyone interested in some [easy] money? Reply or PM me.
THx.
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How much? I'm in Oak Park and just curious.
I've rooted 4 MT4G's, 1 recently(old one didn't agree with the pool), 3 G1's, a Desire, and a Nook, so I'm pretty familiar with rooting.

If i were you, i wouldn't relay on someone else. If something goes south how are YOU going to fix YOUR phone?

I know. That is something I've been wrestling with. Not sure how to do it otherwise. Wish I knew someone that I could trust.

track40 said:
I know. That is something I've been wrestling with. Not sure how to do it otherwise. Wish I knew someone that I could trust.
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Everyone has to start somewhere. I'd take a look in my new comers thread. Link is in my signature.
That is a good starting point.

My biggest concern is undoing Gingerbread and rolling back to Froyo. Other than that... the tools along with everything I've read seem pretty solid.
Damn Gingerbread.

I'm have the same issue downgrading with no home internet I was asking the same for someone in N.Y.C area. After a downgrade is done I can easily root and put a rom with no home internet.

guys, take your time, READ THE DIRECTIONS, and you'll be fine. you can do it!!!

I think the ideal thing to do would be to snag a cheap MT4G on eBay, and mess with rooting that way.
Then if I mess it all up, no worries.
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Best thing to do is to read,read,and re-read.its not very difficult to figure it out.all the info is here.why pay me to read instructions,and usr a little deductive reasoni.g,when you can do the same.
Well,
Oh,ok.
$100 bucks.drop it off over here by the HIP mall.lol.
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Just kidding.dude,its not difficult.just search and think about it.you'll do it.
I didn't even know what a zip file was,and now I've rooted,hacked l kinds of stuff,using adb,etc...but I did spend a lot of time reading about Linux,cell phones,etc...
Then,I read some more,and paid attention to the problems others had,and figured what to do,and what not to do.
Other words,u can do it.don't pay someone.
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Thanks guys.
Will try it myself after a little more research.

The unlockr.com was a good place to start for me, real simple step by step tutorials and they have some good roms, ( linked to xda), to start with. I don't know if it has been updated recently but it couldn't hurt. Rooting took me like 10 min to figure out by the way, it really isn't that difficult of a process. Good luck!

The step by step wiki is SUPER easy to follow.
When I first did it I didn't know what half of the steps meant. But you just follow them in order, trust that the people who wrote them weren't playing some prank, and everything works fine.
It's more cutting and pasting from the wiki to your terminal screen than anything else. If you can cut and paste, you can root the MT4G

theunlockr.com seems to have very straightforward instructions on how to roll back to Froyo and then actually root the MT4G.
Once the phone is rooted and running a third party rom, if you ever have a problem with cell service, like not getting voicemails, or something like that, will Tmo even help you?
Do you have to reload the stock rom prior to ever making any service requests?
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Yea they won't help if you are having issues with whatever rom you are on. No rom Is perfect so you might have issues like that, if you do you just load a new rom. Trolling around the forums is a good way to see what roms have issues and what dont. Team Royal, Unity, Faux123, CM7, and evil D (unity idk if he does work by himse
lf), all make solid roms. Rooting voids your warranty (as if you didn't know that), so if by any chance you destroy you phone, un root it first then send it back. One thing I have found however is that it is almost impossible to brick you phone, ( unless you are messing with the radios so DONT!, unless you know what you a doing), that is because you can flash a backup so, if you already knew that stuff...well sorrys! If not...your welcome.

Dont worry you can do it! I was super worried my self and it took me weeks to finally jump in but now theres no turning back for me!

I gotta say this community sure is supportive. Thanks guys! I gotta read everything on "theunlockr.com" a few dozen times now.
Anyone know if I'm starting from Gingerbread, rolling back, then rooting, then flashing CM7... How much time this should all take... Ballpark, assuming no problems?
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If you're working straight through without putting the phone aside at each milestone like I did and don't get stuck with mildly confusing errors like I did twice (SD card file system mounting confusion and an untimely update to the Android Terminal Emulator app that screwed up the keyboard—developer has since fixed the issue) and failure to CTFM (comprehend, not read) what I was reading after midnight on the first night, I'd imagine you could get it all done within a couple of hours, including backing up the stock ROM and installing the engineering bootloader. However, I would just take it one step at a time and not rush through everything.
Make sure to back up your stock ROM. The CM wiki for this phone completely ignores that process as well as any information on how to unroot, and I think it's unwise to believe that you won't ever need to revert to factory settings once you switch to CM.
I took bits and pieces from four different guides to revert and then root. I did what was most logical between the guides because none of the four that I used were as comprehensive as I think they should be for a complete newbie. The one that came closest in my opinion was the root guide for the HTC Panache from the HTC Glacier XDA wiki entry. That said, I'm not new to shells nor phone modding, so I figured it all out eventually. Installing the new ROM was the easiest part for me, followed closely by rolling back to Froyo. The middle part—rooting—requires the most patience and understanding of what's happening.