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Hello all, I am new to the world of rooting, and even Android (came from an iPhone). I am just wondering is it worth going through all the trouble to create a Goldcard, and restoring stock radios, etc, just to get the Root now OR if I waited would a simpler method come along in the coming weeks. I'm just wanting some input and information from you guys. Thank You.
Heartbreak said:
Hello all, I am new to the world of rooting, and even Android (came from an iPhone). I am just wondering is it worth going through all the trouble to create a Goldcard, and restoring stock radios, etc, just to get the Root now OR if I waited would a simpler method come along in the coming weeks. I'm just wanting some input and information from you guys. Thank You.
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Well to answer your question you have to decide what you really want out of your phone. If you want wireless tether with paying for it or you just like to customize then rooting is for you right now. If you just want to get into rooting and have some fun with your phone then you should probably wait for a one click root. I can tell you from experience that this is not the easiest root method. That being said I have rooted several different devices and flashed a number of different roms. Rooting is fun for me. If you mess up there are a bunch of people here to help.
The Inspire 4g doesn't really have alot of roms to flash right now anyway. Well best of luck.
I am waiting on rooting. only things i need it for are wifi tethering and the upload speeds. currently i can make do with pda.net since its free for 30 days and there are sites you can download the .apk files (wont mention here cause that may be a breach of the forums TOS) so i have 30 days till i will root or not. in that time the xda community can do a LOT! i am very happy with my phone the way it is right now with bloatware and what not. I would grab a copy of the stock ROM and keep in touch on the forums as far as latest developments. honestly it cant hurt you to wait
Yeah, I am mainly wanting to just be able to sideload apps, WiFi tether, upload speeds that kind of thing. What do you guys think that the average wait time for a one click root will be? I also REALLY want to get rid of all the bloatware.
Heartbreak said:
Yeah, I am mainly wanting to just be able to sideload apps, WiFi tether, upload speeds that kind of thing. What do you guys think that the average wait time for a one click root will be? I also REALLY want to get rid of all the bloatware.
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from what i've been reading on this forum, you can sideload without root. also, it seems a few people are having some success with removing bloat without root as well. i would recommend reading some of the other threads, there's a lot of good info.
Heartbreak said:
Yeah, I am mainly wanting to just be able to sideload apps, WiFi tether, upload speeds that kind of thing. What do you guys think that the average wait time for a one click root will be? I also REALLY want to get rid of all the bloatware.
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Normally it takes about a month or two to get a one click. By that time there will be a lot of roms out. If you just want to side load download the side load wonder machine. search for it here on xda.
Heartbreak said:
Yeah, I am mainly wanting to just be able to sideload apps, WiFi tether, upload speeds that kind of thing. What do you guys think that the average wait time for a one click root will be? I also REALLY want to get rid of all the bloatware.
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Sideload Wonder Machine.. and it works. i had a little problem not recognizing my phone untill i unplugged it and replugged it back in. no problems after that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943174
I was going to try Sideload, I have only used the Mac client, please tell me the Windows client is more streamlined?
Sent from my Inspire 4G.
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I plan to wait. 1. Because im lazy. 2. Because i dont NEED root right now. I plan on just removing bloat and such and if anything flashing CM7 if it becomes compatible once htc releases source stuff
I am new to rooting, what is a Gold card? Thanks!
Heartbreak said:
Yeah, I am mainly wanting to just be able to sideload apps, WiFi tether, upload speeds that kind of thing. What do you guys think that the average wait time for a one click root will be? I also REALLY want to get rid of all the bloatware.
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Well considering that the latest ROM for the Desire HD has been out quite a while and there is still no one click root available for it makes me think that it may be a while.
Rican2008 said:
I am new to rooting, what is a Gold card? Thanks!
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A gold card is a specially formatted SD card that will allow an HTC device to be flashed with an unbranded ROMs instead of only accepting branded ROMs developed for the specific carriers.
Note: I'm posting this on multiple forums to receive more varied feedback, so if you see it in a couple places, please don't get upset.
I'm thinking of getting rid of my Inspire for a Nexus One. I'm frankly disappointed in the battery life and the customization options available to me. I've been reading these forums for quite awhile, so I'm very aware of all the options I have with my Inspire -- telling me that I can root "following this guide" or whatnot isn't going to be a game-changer for me.
What are your thoughts? What will I miss going from the Inspire to the Nexus One? What might I like better about the Nexus One? Is the trackball really that exciting?
If I do end up looking to do it, what do I have to look for when getting one? I know they sold them for TMo only first, and then brought out an AT&T compatible one. I've heard that there were two different screens available for them, does anyone have a preference or know what the difference might be? If I do end up looking for one, where should I look? Do you think there would be people willing to trade a Nexus One for an Inspire plus some cash?
I've already done a backup to the SD card via My Backup Pro - if I get a Nexus One, should I just have to insert the SIM and SD card and restore everything, or do I have to worry about more than that?
Any thoughts or advice is welcome! Thank you!
What customization options are you disappointed about? Just remember the Inspire is just 2 months old and look how far we have gotten with it so far.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App
True, I do recognize that I'm posting in the XDA forums! I'm speaking of a stock, unrooted Inspire. I'm not willing to root this phone -- after reading nearly everything there is to read on it, I'm convinced I will break it or get lost. I know my limits, and this is it. If there was a way to root without needing a gold card or downgrading or any of that, I might be in. There are many phones out there that can even be rooted without losing your info! This is complicated. At this point I'd simply be following directions whose actual meaning I'd be completely lost to, and just hoping that everything was done right in the right order. And if something went wrong, I'd have no idea where or how in between S-off, gold cards, downgrading, radios, sound issues, Eng S-off, etc.
I'm not knocking the people here, you have done amazing things with a phone that did NOT want to be rooted/customized. I'm just not able to take advantage of what you've done, because to be honest -- it is all above my head. And I'm not willing to be one of those people with the "Help! I think I turned my Inspire into a rabbit" threads.
Silas0220 said:
True, I do recognize that I'm posting in the XDA forums! I'm speaking of a stock, unrooted Inspire. I'm not willing to root this phone -- after reading nearly everything there is to read on it, I'm convinced I will break it or get lost. I know my limits, and this is it. If there was a way to root without needing a gold card or downgrading or any of that, I might be in. There are many phones out there that can even be rooted without losing your info! This is complicated. At this point I'd simply be following directions whose actual meaning I'd be completely lost to, and just hoping that everything was done right in the right order. And if something went wrong, I'd have no idea where or how in between S-off, gold cards, downgrading, radios, sound issues, Eng S-off, etc.
I'm not knocking the people here, you have done amazing things with a phone that did NOT want to be rooted/customized. I'm just not able to take advantage of what you've done, because to be honest -- it is all above my head. And I'm not willing to be one of those people with the "Help! I think I turned my Inspire into a rabbit" threads.
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rooting is easier then you think!
HTC Inspire on CM7. Beast ROM. If I helped Thank me
I wouldn't touch a Nexus One with a ten foot pole. I am too used to using modern tech. That phone is very dated and feels every month of it. It would be like me giving up my Inspire for an iPhone 3G. If I were to move to the Nexus, I'd definitely be looking at the Nexus S. It's still an older tech phone, but has a nicer screen, it's lighter, and has a great support community.
However, I really can't think of anything you could do with the Nexus One that you can't with the Inspire... Every rom you could think of is here on this phone. The Captivate devs are almost all over here now, so we have that going for us. Of course, I'm in an HSPA+ area, so I'd also be taking a nose dive in data speed.
Oh yea, and using the newest version of the LeeDroid rom with SetCPU on the "Smartass" governer, I'm just now pluggin my phone in at the 34 hour mark with 5 hours of screen time... That's pretty damn good, if I do say so my damn self.
Many of your points involve rooting, which I've already said worries me. I'm a perfectly capable computer person, but the phone tech is daunting to me. I don't know where to start, and most of the terminology is worrying. You say it's easier than it looks, but that's because you've done it! To me looking in from the outside, it's so far beyond me it's like wanting to live on a base on the moon...
Silas0220 said:
Many of your points involve rooting, which I've already said worries me. I'm a perfectly capable computer person, but the phone tech is daunting to me. I don't know where to start, and most of the terminology is worrying. You say it's easier than it looks, but that's because you've done it! To me looking in from the outside, it's so far beyond me it's like wanting to live on a base on the moon...
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Don't sweat it, man. Just hop into the "One Click Root" thread in the Development forum. It'll outline what you need to have before starting the process. It will guide you step by step through what you need to do. It's a headache when you first do it, but after that you'll be flashing like a champ. It's addictive. Feel free to PM me if you want to go through it together. I'll be more than happy to help. Just make sure you do everything with a fully charged battery.
One Click Root thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Also, there's a video in the top part of the first post. It's for an earlier version of the root app, but it's still very viable and lets you watch someone do it before you go through it.
Maybe he will like that with the N1 you can have a dirty trackball(since most are used now) that can change colors? You know colors with a "Brownish" tint.
The only thing advantage I could think of is there is a chance to use a cheaper data plan with the N1. But then again, the last time I used a N1 was a yr ago, so now the IMEIs may be recognized by ATT. But not sure if the OP realizes that you can do this.
Yeah, I've kinda dismissed the whole "Stick it to AT&T and use a $10 data plan!" thing. From what I can tell, the ones who do it are pretty much just lucky at this point. If you can say being stuck on Edge is lucky...
*takes a deep breath* Okay, maybe I'll look into this whole rooting business. I'd say I've been through about 1/3 of the pages in that one click root thread... Seems like a fair few people are getting things mucked up -- would you say they're pretty much the ones who are messing with things I'd likely never touch? Do I ever need to worry about a radio? Does the stock rooted ROM that's loaded at the end of it allow for better battery life and overclocking? Those are really my two biggest concerns if I'm going to root (and yeah, I get that they're counterproductive!).
I know I'm asking all the noob questions over again, most of which have already been answered many times here. People tend to get impatient with people like me getting into this kind of stuff, which is one reason I chose to stay away from it. This editorial (http://www.androidcentral.com/sometimes-root-isn’t-answer) also made me think twice (or three times)...
If I get into this, what I'd like to be able to do is to copy all my SD card files onto my computer, keeping the whole thing intact, copy it all back once this thing is done and I no longer need the gold card, fire up My Backup Pro, and have everything end up right back where it was. I really feel as if this is asking too much...
I know the feeling of everything looking really complex and hard. I came from a black berry, the key to rooting with either method is reading the directions. The directions are extremely watered down. What exactly scares you about rooting, what terminology? We are here to help you. The inspire is an amazing little device.
Thank you all for being willing to be so helpful. I'd say I was mostly turned off to rooting by going through the Hack Kit and One Click threads and reading about all the people who actually know what they're talking about having issues and breaking things. I figured if they were breaking things, I'd be SURE to mess something up big time.
I'll be keeping you guys at my fingertips for PMs if this goes badly, and I really do appreciate you being willing to help.
For those of you who do this ROM swapping thing often, is there any way to have some program make a snapshot of your homescreens so you don't have to re-configure them every time? Seems like it'd be a pain.
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Thank you all for being willing to be so helpful. I'd say I was mostly turned off to rooting by going through the Hack Kit and One Click threads and reading about all the people who actually know what they're talking about having issues and breaking things. I figured if they were breaking things, I'd be SURE to mess something up big time.
I'll be keeping you guys at my fingertips for PMs if this goes badly, and I really do appreciate you being willing to help.
For those of you who do this ROM swapping thing often, is there any way to have some program make a snapshot of your homescreens so you don't have to re-configure them every time? Seems like it'd be a pain.
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Breaking things not so much . No one has completely bricked their inspire. There are a few things here and there that pop up and usually already have a fix posted for them.
Check out the guide to flashing at the top of this forum, I tried to get as detailed as I could.
Honestly no, Flashing a new rom (not an patch/upgrade) will be like booting your phone up for the first time. Though you can back up your sms,apps, and contacts. Everything else you will have to set up again. It can be a pain, but the pros far out weigh the cons !
Any reason you can see for me to use the hack kit over the one click?
Sent from a solid block of aluminum.
They are both good, the hack kit lets you be a little more involved with the rooting process. Where the GUI is more automated. The GUI has the potential to flash the h-boot wrong after it is rooted and s-off, leading to a black cwm screen. You can find a fix for that in the guide that is stickied.
Ooooookay, taking a deep breath and diving in. I'll let you know when I come up for air...
Silas0220 said:
Any reason you can see for me to use the hack kit over the one click?
Sent from a solid block of aluminum.
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I say the only reason you should use the hack kit is to understand adb commands a little bit better. I've used both methods and felt a tiny bit more accomplished with the hack kit. Don't worry about messing up, there are plenty of people willing to lend a hand.
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Currently downloading the One Click with about 7 minutes to go. Is there an easy way to tell what ROMs allow for overclocking and to what point? I don't exactly see the need at the moment (I've never noticed my Inspire running slowly), but it'd be nice for future-proofing. I've been able to gather that OC requires more to do with the kernel than the ROM, and that not every ROM includes a kernel (I'm not even sure what I'd do with a kernel if I got one...). I'm figuring it's safe to assume that the stock rooted ROM that is loaded by the One Click doesn't have any OC abilities.
EDIT: I believe from most of my reading that I'm most interested in the LeeDroid ROM and accoutrements. Someone earlier mentioned that they are using this right now -- from going through his thread, it looks like that involves kernels and radios in addition to ROMS. I'm not asking for anyone to do anything special for me, but is there a step-by-step on how to go from post-One Click to happy LeeDroid?
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Currently downloading the One Click with about 7 minutes to go. Is there an easy way to tell what ROMs allow for overclocking and to what point? I don't exactly see the need at the moment (I've never noticed my Inspire running slowly), but it'd be nice for future-proofing. I've been able to gather that OC requires more to do with the kernel than the ROM, and that not every ROM includes a kernel (I'm not even sure what I'd do with a kernel if I got one...). I'm figuring it's safe to assume that the stock rooted ROM that is loaded by the One Click doesn't have any OC abilities.
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Unless they changed it no (GUI).
Most devs will put OC or [OC] in the threads title, most of the time the kernel will flash along side of the rom. Though if it isn't and it is an optional kernel, the best method is to flash the the rom, then reboot, then flash the kernel. Most are overclocked to 1.8ghz some are 1.5ghz.
edit: You flash a kernel like you would a rom, except when flashing a kernel you don't do a full wipe, but it is best to wipe cache and dalvik cache.
Divinedark said:
Don't sweat it, man. Just hop into the "One Click Root" thread in the Development forum. It'll outline what you need to have before starting the process. It will guide you step by step through what you need to do. It's a headache when you first do it, but after that you'll be flashing like a champ. It's addictive. Feel free to PM me if you want to go through it together. I'll be more than happy to help. Just make sure you do everything with a fully charged battery.
One Click Root thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Also, there's a video in the top part of the first post. It's for an earlier version of the root app, but it's still very viable and lets you watch someone do it before you go through it.
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I have to chime in here and say that I have rooted and flashed my old Nexus one many times and I was totally lost with the Inspire root methods. I literally got a migraine just reading through the one-click thread the first time.
What are you having trouble understanding about it?
Alright try not to flame the piss outta me; i've been a member here for years and i know how to SEARCH. (and i did)
there's alot of reading between the lines that goes on here. lots of things are not explicit.
my needs are:
1. to be able to tether via bluetooth/wifi/usb/MIFI/hotspot my phone to a windows laptop
2. to delete the bloatware
3. maaaybe save the apps to the SD but that's not necessary
but i must remain with stock ROM. i had a cingular 8125 (wizard) and an AT&T Fuze (diamond) that i hacked and cracked and unlocked and every other thing you could do to them.. and it was always a mess; emailin the dev late at night cause this don't work or that don't work, data don't work, GPS don't work, radios don't work, the phone don't work, it needs to be rebooted everyday cause the other thing's from a different phone. hell i even blew the speaker on the fuze with some speaker mod i downloaded cause it was too quiet and so it didn't ring half the time. i don't need sweet fuzeberry pictures for the menu button and all of this.
so unless there's some perfect rom out there that doesn't have not one damn error, i'd like to stay with a stock rom.
so can bullets 1 and 2 and maybe 3 be solved without going with a non-stock rom? do i have to root to get #'s 1 and 2?
thanks for not flamin me
There is a stock rooted Rom on here which you can use that will let you do what you want.
As for the roms, I know everyone has their preference but gtg's inspired saga gingerbread Rom is pretty much flawless. Even have it on my wife's inspire and she never complains about anything not working. I am sure others are very good as well.
wdkingery said:
Alright try not to flame the piss outta me; i've been a member here for years and i know how to SEARCH. (and i did)
there's alot of reading between the lines that goes on here. lots of things are not explicit.
my needs are:
1. to be able to tether via bluetooth/wifi/usb/MIFI/hotspot my phone to a windows laptop
2. to delete the bloatware
3. maaaybe save the apps to the SD but that's not necessary
but i must remain with stock ROM. i had a cingular 8125 (wizard) and an AT&T Fuze (diamond) that i hacked and cracked and unlocked and every other thing you could do to them.. and it was always a mess; emailin the dev late at night cause this don't work or that don't work, data don't work, GPS don't work, radios don't work, the phone don't work, it needs to be rebooted everyday cause the other thing's from a different phone. hell i even blew the speaker on the fuze with some speaker mod i downloaded cause it was too quiet and so it didn't ring half the time. i don't need sweet fuzeberry pictures for the menu button and all of this.
so unless there's some perfect rom out there that doesn't have not one damn error, i'd like to stay with a stock rom.
so can bullets 1 and 2 and maybe 3 be solved without going with a non-stock rom? do i have to root to get #'s 1 and 2?
thanks for not flamin me
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All of that will require root access. At the very least, your gonna need to do that.
Once you do, if you want a kick-ass fast, stable and dependable tweaked custom stock ROM...try the one in my signature.
Nickovtyme said:
All of that will require root access. At the very least, your gonna need to do that.
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With the exception of maybe App2sd.
But indeed, rooting is pretty much a must-do activity.
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Nickovtyme said:
All of that will require root access. At the very least, your gonna need to do that.
Once you do, if you want a kick-ass fast, stable and dependable tweaked custom stock ROM...try the one in my signature.
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sadly i cannot even find the one in your sig
wdkingery said:
sadly i cannot even find the one in your sig
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Let me remedy that for ya.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015206
I think there's only a handful of us around here that use this ROM as their day to day ROM...and mostly its because it's so close to stock. Not many bells or whistles with this one.
oh puke it appears i'm gonna end up crackin this phone into pieces as well.. bleh. there's sooo much i don't know right now. apn? what was it before i did this? what should it be? a million trillion new things with a new operating system, new phone.. not one thing is the same it seems. on the the [GUIDE] i go..
can this all be undone on this phone if i crush it and need to return it to AT&steal for insurance?
Take a breath. You will catch on and yes it can be reversed if you need to send in for insurance though if the phone is split in half you may have trouble running the stock ruu and getting s-on.
Check the thread in dev section on data speed to see apn settings I believe they are listed in there.
i have yet to even plug this phone into my laptop for the first time.
any activesync type programs i need?
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oh puke it appears i'm gonna end up crackin this phone into pieces as well.. bleh. there's sooo much i don't know right now. apn? what was it before i did this? what should it be? a million trillion new things with a new operating system, new phone.. not one thing is the same it seems. on the the [GUIDE] i go..
can this all be undone on this phone if i crush it and need to return it to AT&steal for insurance?
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I meant to tell ya that with the Ingersoll ROM, well with most of the ROM's in the dev section, wifi hotspot is enabled by default. I have used it and can verify that it works perfectly..just enable wifi hotspot in the settings. Oh and AT&T won't ever know either...though there is some debate about that.
Or like Newter555 says, do the research and you can add the APN's yourself.
wdkingery said:
i have yet to even plug this phone into my laptop for the first time.
any activesync type programs i need?
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Follow the sticky guide at the top of this forum and you should breeze right through it.
i believe i rooted, but rom manager cannot find superuser, i downloaded superuser from market and it is not doing anything special; no errors ...
i'm now stuck with a rom that has no sound. please help
wdkingery said:
i believe i rooted, but rom manager cannot find superuser, i downloaded superuser from market and it is not doing anything special; no errors ...
i'm now stuck with a rom that has no sound. please help
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If you used the attn1 method he mentions that you have to flash a ROM to get sound back. Do you have rom manager installed? It can install recovery for you and download roms for you.
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He has recovery installed. All he has to do is select a rom, put it on the hd and start recovery to flash it. The process is well.documented. ROM manager is not the answer.
lil fyi i got it all worked out thanks to attn1
wdkingery said:
lil fyi i got it all worked out thanks to attn1
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Awsome! Good for you.
Welcome aboard...you're life is changed forever.
Hello,
Been using Android for about a year now, and am looking for someone who wants to make some fast cash to get Cyanogen 7 on my phone. I'm currently running the myTouch 4G on T-Mo, and have Gingerbread 2.3.4 running.
I normally might attempt to do this myself, but knowing that I have to downgrade, and then Root, followed by the Cyanogen load... I'm too nervous that I'm going to achieve brick, not root.
Anyone interested in some [easy] money? Reply or PM me.
THx.
track40 said:
Hello,
Been using Android for about a year now, and am looking for someone who wants to make some fast cash to get Cyanogen 7 on my phone. I'm currently running the myTouch 4G on T-Mo, and have Gingerbread 2.3.4 running.
I normally might attempt to do this myself, but knowing that I have to downgrade, and then Root, followed by the Cyanogen load... I'm too nervous that I'm going to achieve brick, not root.
Anyone interested in some [easy] money? Reply or PM me.
THx.
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lol i'd love to but can't :\
track40 said:
Hello,
Been using Android for about a year now, and am looking for someone who wants to make some fast cash to get Cyanogen 7 on my phone. I'm currently running the myTouch 4G on T-Mo, and have Gingerbread 2.3.4 running.
I normally might attempt to do this myself, but knowing that I have to downgrade, and then Root, followed by the Cyanogen load... I'm too nervous that I'm going to achieve brick, not root.
Anyone interested in some [easy] money? Reply or PM me.
THx.
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How much? I'm in Oak Park and just curious.
I've rooted 4 MT4G's, 1 recently(old one didn't agree with the pool), 3 G1's, a Desire, and a Nook, so I'm pretty familiar with rooting.
If i were you, i wouldn't relay on someone else. If something goes south how are YOU going to fix YOUR phone?
I know. That is something I've been wrestling with. Not sure how to do it otherwise. Wish I knew someone that I could trust.
track40 said:
I know. That is something I've been wrestling with. Not sure how to do it otherwise. Wish I knew someone that I could trust.
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Everyone has to start somewhere. I'd take a look in my new comers thread. Link is in my signature.
That is a good starting point.
My biggest concern is undoing Gingerbread and rolling back to Froyo. Other than that... the tools along with everything I've read seem pretty solid.
Damn Gingerbread.
I'm have the same issue downgrading with no home internet I was asking the same for someone in N.Y.C area. After a downgrade is done I can easily root and put a rom with no home internet.
guys, take your time, READ THE DIRECTIONS, and you'll be fine. you can do it!!!
I think the ideal thing to do would be to snag a cheap MT4G on eBay, and mess with rooting that way.
Then if I mess it all up, no worries.
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Best thing to do is to read,read,and re-read.its not very difficult to figure it out.all the info is here.why pay me to read instructions,and usr a little deductive reasoni.g,when you can do the same.
Well,
Oh,ok.
$100 bucks.drop it off over here by the HIP mall.lol.
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Just kidding.dude,its not difficult.just search and think about it.you'll do it.
I didn't even know what a zip file was,and now I've rooted,hacked l kinds of stuff,using adb,etc...but I did spend a lot of time reading about Linux,cell phones,etc...
Then,I read some more,and paid attention to the problems others had,and figured what to do,and what not to do.
Other words,u can do it.don't pay someone.
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Thanks guys.
Will try it myself after a little more research.
The unlockr.com was a good place to start for me, real simple step by step tutorials and they have some good roms, ( linked to xda), to start with. I don't know if it has been updated recently but it couldn't hurt. Rooting took me like 10 min to figure out by the way, it really isn't that difficult of a process. Good luck!
The step by step wiki is SUPER easy to follow.
When I first did it I didn't know what half of the steps meant. But you just follow them in order, trust that the people who wrote them weren't playing some prank, and everything works fine.
It's more cutting and pasting from the wiki to your terminal screen than anything else. If you can cut and paste, you can root the MT4G
theunlockr.com seems to have very straightforward instructions on how to roll back to Froyo and then actually root the MT4G.
Once the phone is rooted and running a third party rom, if you ever have a problem with cell service, like not getting voicemails, or something like that, will Tmo even help you?
Do you have to reload the stock rom prior to ever making any service requests?
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Yea they won't help if you are having issues with whatever rom you are on. No rom Is perfect so you might have issues like that, if you do you just load a new rom. Trolling around the forums is a good way to see what roms have issues and what dont. Team Royal, Unity, Faux123, CM7, and evil D (unity idk if he does work by himse
lf), all make solid roms. Rooting voids your warranty (as if you didn't know that), so if by any chance you destroy you phone, un root it first then send it back. One thing I have found however is that it is almost impossible to brick you phone, ( unless you are messing with the radios so DONT!, unless you know what you a doing), that is because you can flash a backup so, if you already knew that stuff...well sorrys! If not...your welcome.
Dont worry you can do it! I was super worried my self and it took me weeks to finally jump in but now theres no turning back for me!
I gotta say this community sure is supportive. Thanks guys! I gotta read everything on "theunlockr.com" a few dozen times now.
Anyone know if I'm starting from Gingerbread, rolling back, then rooting, then flashing CM7... How much time this should all take... Ballpark, assuming no problems?
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If you're working straight through without putting the phone aside at each milestone like I did and don't get stuck with mildly confusing errors like I did twice (SD card file system mounting confusion and an untimely update to the Android Terminal Emulator app that screwed up the keyboard—developer has since fixed the issue) and failure to CTFM (comprehend, not read) what I was reading after midnight on the first night, I'd imagine you could get it all done within a couple of hours, including backing up the stock ROM and installing the engineering bootloader. However, I would just take it one step at a time and not rush through everything.
Make sure to back up your stock ROM. The CM wiki for this phone completely ignores that process as well as any information on how to unroot, and I think it's unwise to believe that you won't ever need to revert to factory settings once you switch to CM.
I took bits and pieces from four different guides to revert and then root. I did what was most logical between the guides because none of the four that I used were as comprehensive as I think they should be for a complete newbie. The one that came closest in my opinion was the root guide for the HTC Panache from the HTC Glacier XDA wiki entry. That said, I'm not new to shells nor phone modding, so I figured it all out eventually. Installing the new ROM was the easiest part for me, followed closely by rolling back to Froyo. The middle part—rooting—requires the most patience and understanding of what's happening.
I have the T959v android phone, which I found out is a bit more complicated than my Samsung Vibrant.
I am running the gingerbread kernel after using Kies.
I have finally successfully flashed the T959v using Heimdoll following this guide. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21953878&postcount=2
Super User has been installed using SuperOneClick.
After struggling with it and reading on some sites it's possible and some sites it's not possible, I've come to the conclusion that Rom Manager is not a good idea to use, to install a Rom on my particular phone.
I want to install this Rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402966
However I reviewed the instructions and found I was lost on some parts.
I know how to get to recovery mode (with the phone turned off, hold down volume up and down and the power button)
However, here's where I get lost:
6. Perform Voodoo -> Disable Lagfix.
I do not have this option, likely because I'm missing voodoo or some sort of app. I've tried googling this and figuring out what it is, but I don't even know what a CWM is.
I haven't tried (since I'm atleast smart enough to review information before I start following them, lest I get myself stuck somewhere and unable to back out of). However I believe I can get as far as Step 5.
Unfortuantely I can't get any further.
The only apps I have installed (besides the annoying bloatware on the phone) are the ones I listed above.
This is my first time flashing a phone or doing any of the above, previously my friend did it for me.
So I apologize for whatever Incompetence I may have, however if you can simplify instructions I'm pretty good at following them.
The hard part is that I don't know how to do a lot of the instructions.
Is there a video? Perhaps a guide with pictures that includes all the software I need and how to install that software?
I'm sorry for the questions, I hope someone can help. This has been a long and frustrating process but I'm determined to finish it.
Thank you in advance.
Ah also this: "Must have pre-installed kernel with clockwork recovery!"
I cannot do this because when I try and use clockwork recovery it says it cannot support my phone.
It gives me a list of 4 devices, none of which are my phone.
Then I click on "My device is not listed" and it states the T959v is not supported.
I'm really sorry for all the questions.
Not only does this app look nice, and sound nice due to hardware acceleration. Above all it gets rid of that bloatware crap from T-mobile.
I look forward to giving this app a try.
Hello my friend i know how excited you are when it come's to flashing, installing, removing apps on your phone, but before you do any harm to your phone maybe
consider reading this http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_4G before going further. it save's you a lot of time and headache plus you can avoid
flaming from other people here. and also try to use the search bar just i case you have further question's..
I advice you to take some time to read first on what do you want to your phone before doing anything.. don't be in a hurry we have tons of great roms in here..
Do not use clockwork manager...it is not for this device!
If you have super user ur rooted and good to go ...i would suggest you play around with the gingerbread roms for a spell before going to icecream sandwich roms,just so you get a feel for flashing on this device.....i too came from the vibrant and dearly miss it.
This phone is far from a vibrant but is coming along.
Feel free to pm me.....I may be a bit slow on replies since I'm working 7/12's 3rd shift.
Thank you both so much for your replies.
Warren I am checking that link out right now. Thanks
Shortbus, I miss my Vibrant too.
Technically speaking my Vibrant is still usable, but ever since I dropped it and cracked the screen it seems to have drastically slowed down (and the screen is annoying with all the cracks too).
Sad day for me.
I still want to try and get that Rom I had posted above working, as I doubt I'll move to another rom anytime after that. But I'll try and learn more about it using the link you gave me Warren. It'll probably take me several days ~_~
Shortbus I may email you with questions I come across from time to time if that's ok
Squeezitgirdle said:
Thank you both so much for your replies.
Warren I am checking that link out right now. Thanks
Shortbus, I miss my Vibrant too.
Technically speaking my Vibrant is still usable, but ever since I dropped it and cracked the screen it seems to have drastically slowed down (and the screen is annoying with all the cracks too).
Sad day for me.
I still want to try and get that Rom I had posted above working, as I doubt I'll move to another rom anytime after that. But I'll try and learn more about it using the link you gave me Warren. It'll probably take me several days ~_~
Shortbus I may email you with questions I come across from time to time if that's ok
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If you want to install Valhalla Final - read the guide in the first link of my signature and begin where applicable.
I don't mind.
Flashing roms on this device is easy once you realize its not the vibrant lol.
Like the vibrant....this thing is near impossible to brick,....just a lil bit more complicated than the vib.....till you get to understand it.
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If you want to install Valhalla Final - read the guide in the first link of my signature and begin where applicable.
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Ah, so I should switch to Froyo instead of Gingerbread from the looks of it.
I'll get right on that I'm going to try following your guide now
edit: I saw that you switched to Gingerbread, jumped too far ahead of myself.
I'm getting pretty far along in the guide, I'm now at the part where I am about to install the rom.
I love that you guys respond so quickly too.
In the process of using Heimdall I ran into so many issues but was (slowly) able to work through them and figure them out.
It's nice to know I can come here if I have a quick question.
I'm not much help with heimdall....I use gremlin remover,its a one click Odin program....serves the same purpose....to bring you to a rooted stock state.