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Hi Guys,
i pointed out that if you have G4 you wont be able to bring it back to the original stand-so you will loose your warranty in any case if you update your G4 model with new ipl/spl cause so far i know there is no way to downgrade it again.You wont be able to install original Software until your device is CID locked and there is no solution for cid unlocking for G4 so far.
charliess said:
i pointed out that if you have G4 you wont be able to bring it back to the original stand-so you will loose your warranty in any case if you update your G4 model with new ipl/spl cause so far i know there is no way to downgrade it again.
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Why to upgrade IPL/SPL ???
charliess said:
You wont be able to install original Software until your device is CID locked and there is no solution for cid unlocking for G4 so far.
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There is no free CID unlock, it's different
And you be able to install original software but not able to install official Operating System from other country , really different.
you can flash any Rom you want without any CID unlocked, just you can't downgarde the SPL, so just remove the SPL from any rom, so you are the Newbie here, there was a lot of threads bout this, sorry
IPL SPL, the software that runs the hardware, it is like bios of the motherboard or firmware of any hardware, it is important to update them
paradis_pal said:
you can flash any Rom you want without any CID unlocked, just you can't downgarde the SPL, so just remove the SPL from any rom, so you are the Newbie here, there was a lot of threads bout this, sorry
IPL SPL, the software that runs the hardware, it is like bios of the motherboard or firmware of any hardware, it is important to update them
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ähm sorry...but in any case -then tell me please how to get back the warranty it is not possible or?if you update ipl/spl what happens normally just by updating your os with the files you can download from here-gullums etc. then there is no way back to install the original updates from o2.Sure you can CID unlock for money- who wants that?i want it for free but there is no solution.So i started this thread juust to warn noObs not to update cause there is no way back without paying.got it? also i flashed my phone without ipl/spl i ve never said it doesnt work but i guess doing that wont give back warranty cause they also check ipl and spl and see that the device has been upgraded with some other versions->warranty gone.So instead of telling me what to post and saying that im the "dumb" you should bring solutions or simply not comment this thread-cause nobody could helped me with my problem i got no answers,so now to answer this thread is anything but not useful-sry guys my opinion
please check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300356
if you missunderstand someting please ask me
paradis_pal said:
please check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300356
if you missunderstand someting please ask me
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thank you for this thread but i already know it,even it is possible to install the different os versions without CID lock by following steps in this thread you wont be able to use the updates provided on the O2 site and IPL / SPL is still different to the originial ones-i wanted to sell my phone i have 1 year warranty left but i guess it doenst matter-who would buy a prophet with warranty if O2 would say it as none,cause it has being modified and who would buy a prophet if you are not able to install original software without spending money for this or something like that.but thx for your help
online warranty, will check the SPL? is that what you mean?
you may wait for my solution to write SPL using pdocwrite,
IPL can be downgrade without any problem, only spl has the problem, and if you write the SPL using pdocwrite, and install all using nb2nbf it will be again your old phone
SPL has nothing to do with OS, if you just install os.nb and extention.nb, no one can check it online,
I think, you may download your o2 orginial rom, and extract the nb files, make new one without only SPL it will work and maybe the supports guys will not notice, it will be your phone again
untell I write how to write the SPL using pdocwrite, if you restore your old SPL even the HTC support can't notice you istalled other roms
I had 2 modified prophet back to warranty and they don't check the IPL/SPL stuff.... lol do you think they care about that ? And spend a tech to check dead devices for boot loaders ? no way
Maybe HTC do, but then they don't care anymore.
You just have to put your old rom back.... if you had back it up or are able to find a download that suits.
@paradis_pal: if I understood correctly, your solution will downgrade the IPL/SPL but with a higher version number to fake the protection, so it will still appear as modified
no, using pdocwrite will flash 2.20 again
and you misunderstood me, I was writing what charliess was thinking, I think no one will check the SPL as you wrote, if you read my first post in this thread you wouldn't misunderstood me
Hi,
I purchased my TYTN-II from UK as sim free in Oct-07. From the last five months i was under the impression that HARDSPL is very much necessary for flashing. Though i never tried to HARDSPL my unit. Last month there was RUU upgrade from HTC e-club. Since it was from HTC and there was no special instruction before running RUU. So i run the RUU directly and my unit was successfully upgraded to WM 6.1.
After that i realised that 6.1 is not stable. So, with the help of the forum ... i downloaded the WM 6 shiped RUU from the forum and run directly and again my device accepted the WM6.
Now, i am confused that how this happened ? am i not suppose to HardSPL my device before flashing specially at downgrading level ?
OR since my device is SIM Free / Unlocked thats why it doesn't need HardSPL ?
I am just trying to educate myself nothing else ...
Regards
i believe that u still need to hard spl the right spl for that rom u installed...the spls are stickied in this forum
admins = plz shut this thread down...
I always thought it was normal for sim free phones.
I could just be thick. But I thought it was due to networks and simlocks that people had to HardSPL.
So its just for cooked ROMs. I get it now. So you flashed a HTC ROM on a HTC device. Which would have flashed the correct SPL anyway.
Hard SPL's allow you to flash cooked roms safely without bricking the device. Since you flashed an official rom from HTC you wouldn't require a modded SPL
There are different hard spl's for wm6.1 thats all. To be honest you are normally safer just to hardspl anyway. Back in the day, if you hadnt hard spl'd your phone and you bricked it, it was basically impossible to fix. Not sure these days on the kaiser, i have never tried not hard spl'ing mine so i couldnt say.
OEM SPL does NOT allow you to downgrade even if the ROM fits your device. I don't know why you not taking HardSPL, if you worry about the warranty, just go ahead to flash ROM with HardSPL, then flash OEM SPL back after it.
if you device is from HTC and not locked to a provider you can flash roms from HTC-E club BUT!!! your phone is not truly safe HardSPL is like a condom for your kaiser if something happens lets say the USB plug comes out while flashing NOT having HardSPL you might have an issue BUT you probably WILL... Just do yourself a favor and flash HardSPL you can always revert back to the shipped SPL if you need to for a warranty return......
austinsnyc said:
if you device is from HTC and not locked to a provider you can flash roms from HTC-E club BUT!!! your phone is not truly safe HardSPL is like a condom for your kaiser if something happens lets say the USB plug comes out while flashing NOT having HardSPL you might have an issue BUT you probably WILL... Just do yourself a favor and flash HardSPL you can always revert back to the shipped SPL if you need to for a warranty return......
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Thanks austinsync,
It seems to me that i almost tried to kill my device. Now advice me which Hard SPL should i use for TYTN-II. I mean 3.28 or something else ?
They look like same to me ...
Regards,
Phone info in sig
Used KaiserUnlocker (NOT kaiser-supercid - OP claims it doesnt work with hardspl 3.28 nor 3.29).
I can only find a relocker for the superCID unlocker
Can anyone help me relock my CID since I used KaiserUnlocker?
Have you called cust care yet? If not, call and ask for your unlock code because you plan on taking an extended buisness trip to canadialand. Say your company is using Rogers up there and is providing you a phone, but you cannot imagine your life without your tilt.
Then warranty it.
not sure if u looked at the "reverting" thread for this request here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
phantomy2g said:
not sure if u looked at the "reverting" thread for this request here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
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I don't see anything in that thread about reverting CID back to OEM..unless I missed it.
cbass said:
Have you called cust care yet? If not, call and ask for your unlock code because you plan on taking an extended buisness trip to canadialand. Say your company is using Rogers up there and is providing you a phone, but you cannot imagine your life without your tilt.
Then warranty it.
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i need not to unlock my phone. it is already unlocked. i need to lock it so i can return it.
but lets say i call cust care, can they give me my OEM CID code to relock? All i can remember is mine starting with 8 lol
richabi said:
i need not to unlock my phone. it is already unlocked. i need to lock it so i can return it.
but lets say i call cust care, can they give me my OEM CID code to relock? All i can remember is mine starting with 8 lol
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It shouldn't make any difference. ATT is not like Sprint in this matter I believe. They don't care. Just put the original stock ROM on ATT with the Original Radio and it should be ok. Make sure the software is exactly as it is when its NIB (new in box). No customs ROMs or the Super eMo radio.
Thats what I did when I returned mine and nothing happened.
Although I might have been lucky. But in my opinion nothing should happen.
Att is just anal about giving the unlock code.
They don't care if you return in unlocked.
Once again this is my opinion.. Do it at your own risk.
I was saying that you should get the unlock code from them and return the phone unlocked. That way they can't question your phone being unlocked.
I hope this helps
richabi said:
i need not to unlock my phone. it is already unlocked. i need to lock it so i can return it.
but lets say i call cust care, can they give me my OEM CID code to relock? All i can remember is mine starting with 8 lol
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I used the relocker just yesterday. I don't think it matters what you used to unlock it. Just flash a compatable SPL before starting. I too was using SPL 3.29 comex. The instructions were a little tedious.
First: follow the steps to lock only replace file Super CID with relocker.exe in step two. {you must do this before you remove Hard SPL by Olipro, because you have to have hard spl to start the unlocker} This relock your phone. Left to do is remove Hard SPL and flash the correct ROM
Second: flash your OEM SPL because you haven't removed hard SPL you shouldn't need jump spl
Third: Flash your OEM ROM
This should have your good to go. I did deviate from the recommended sequence in that I fould that when I followed the steps in the thread I'd already removed hard spl and it was needed to get relock/unlock to work. PM if you need assistance I will provide you with my IM user name. and we can have a live chat to get you through it.
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you guys are amazing. thank you all for your replies.
I called them for the unlock code and CID number and the lady said don't worry about it. just to return the phone unlocked and she will make a note on my account.
of course, my account doesnt claim that i called in before that and was issued an unlock code so i dont know how that is going to work. the lady sounded a bit perplexed about my request so i don't know if i should trust her lol
I don't think its a big deal if a phone is unlocked. i wouldn't think it would void warranty. some ppl NEED to travel internationally and they have issues with their AT&T branded phones every day, ya know?
Well let me set the record straight. It's not a big deal. I've RMA returned two Tilts now back to AT&T, the first one I still had an HTC based cooked ROM on it from here (Dutty's Dualtouch v4) and the second had Garmin 4.2, but I reinstalld the AT&T Tilt ROM. But I didn't relock it. Anyways they can't tell, they rewipe it from scratch so the evidence of if it's locked or unlocked goes bye bye. They'd have to try to flash a nonstandard ROM to know for sure. They aren't going to do that obviously
Hello everybody, excuse my poor english, i am french.
I just have installed a cooked rom i will try it for a few days but it's possible that i will want to return back to the original orange Rom. I have the 3.29 hard spl and superCID unlocked (000000000).
Can i just execute the installation of the original rom ? or have i to do something before ? (i have killed a C500 by doing this kind of operation)
Thx for your help and have a nice day.
McAlister said:
Hello everybody, excuse my poor english, i am french.
I just have installed a cooked rom i will try it for a few days but it's possible that i will want to return back to the original orange Rom. I have the 3.29 hard spl and superCID unlocked (000000000).
Can i just execute the installation of the original rom ? or have i to do something before ? (i have killed a C500 by doing this kind of operation)
Thx for your help and have a nice day.
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I've answered to your PM...
Yeah. I returned a Tilt with HardSPL installed and got a refurb back. The coolest part was that the refurb had a 1gb card in it with a bunch of rom flashing stuff on it. I was laughing.
It didn't have HardSPL installed, though. Wonder if someone bricked it.
Hey guys! been lurking around the forums for eons, but haven't 'dove in' till just recently. Have a couple of questions.
Some months ago I did the free upgrade to WinMO 6.1.
I got Tilt SID unlocked by calling up AT&T and telling them I was going to Europe. My T-mobile SIM card is working just fine.
After a few hours of cussing, I managed to beat HardSPL 3.56 into my phone, because it already had SPL 3.56 on it.
Now I'm stuck trying to CID unlock and I can't seem to find a utility to work with it. The 'chain' of threads I followed dead ended saying downgrade to get it work, but I don't want to do that. I had a hard enough time getting HardSPL 3.56 to install. Then I ran across Jockyw's CID unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837147 and found myself saying ooo and ahh! But, it won't work with ANY 3.xx HardSPL.
Is there a CID unlocker compatible with 3.56??
I'd love to have AT command mode stuff and etc. from jockyw's, but at this point I think I'll take whatever I can get without needing to downgrade.
I can't seem to find it now, but didn't there used to be a list of pre-cooked ROMs here somewhere?
I think what I'm aiming at is a fully patched / hacked 6.1 HTC ROM with everything fixed and no bugs. Preferably minus any bloatware. If it has recommended utilities pre-installed great, if not, no big loss. Did they ever finish hacking a video driver together? I lost track of that thread, and can't seem to find any current info.
I've been waiting for a working Linux distro for a HTC device for years, but I'm going to throw in the towel and make the best of what I can get on windows. I've spent over $3000 on these HTC devices over the years, but don't rely on them because of all the bugs. Once I get my Tilt patched up, I'm jumping ship and trading in my old ones for a G1.
Thanks for any help!
p.s. I DO have to CID unlock before I can install any other ROMs.. right??
p.p.s. Here's all the details if it's any help:
rom version 3.57.502.2 WWE
rom date 7/17/08
radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
tri-color screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
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Serial
image version 3.57.502.2
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05H
D 3.57.00.00
Note: This is BEFORE I updated to HardSPL 3.56
Thanks again!
If you have any of the HARD SPL installed(3.56 from your words).
You can flash any ROM you want.
No need to CID unlock separately.
With Hard SPL, your Device is CID unlocked already.
Your pda doesn't not have hard spl installed on it
Crogon said:
Hey guys! been lurking around the forums for eons, but haven't 'dove in' till just recently. Have a couple of questions.
Some months ago I did the free upgrade to WinMO 6.1.
I got Tilt SID unlocked by calling up AT&T and telling them I was going to Europe. My T-mobile SIM card is working just fine.
After a few hours of cussing, I managed to beat HardSPL 3.56 into my phone, because it already had SPL 3.56 on it.
Now I'm stuck trying to CID unlock and I can't seem to find a utility to work with it. The 'chain' of threads I followed dead ended saying downgrade to get it work, but I don't want to do that. I had a hard enough time getting HardSPL 3.56 to install. Then I ran across Jockyw's CID unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837147 and found myself saying ooo and ahh! But, it won't work with ANY 3.xx HardSPL.
Is there a CID unlocker compatible with 3.56??
I'd love to have AT command mode stuff and etc. from jockyw's, but at this point I think I'll take whatever I can get without needing to downgrade.
I can't seem to find it now, but didn't there used to be a list of pre-cooked ROMs here somewhere?
I think what I'm aiming at is a fully patched / hacked 6.1 HTC ROM with everything fixed and no bugs. Preferably minus any bloatware. If it has recommended utilities pre-installed great, if not, no big loss. Did they ever finish hacking a video driver together? I lost track of that thread, and can't seem to find any current info.
I've been waiting for a working Linux distro for a HTC device for years, but I'm going to throw in the towel and make the best of what I can get on windows. I've spent over $3000 on these HTC devices over the years, but don't rely on them because of all the bugs. Once I get my Tilt patched up, I'm jumping ship and trading in my old ones for a G1.
Thanks for any help!
p.s. I DO have to CID unlock before I can install any other ROMs.. right??
p.p.s. Here's all the details if it's any help:
rom version 3.57.502.2 WWE
rom date 7/17/08
radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
tri-color screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
.
.
Serial
image version 3.57.502.2
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05H
D 3.57.00.00
Note: This is BEFORE I updated to HardSPL 3.56
Thanks again!
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I'm sorry to tell you that this:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
Is not hard spl and if you pda has hard spl installed is will say this:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.Hard
CPLD-8
I received my replacement Tilt 4 days ago from At&t and it came with WM6.1 and spl 3.56.0000 and you are right I cant find anything to change that spl. I have tried to CID UNlock and I get the white screen, so I tried jump spl 1.56 and 1.93 and neither one of them worked. So now I'm stuck with this 3.56.0000, I sent Jocky a PM and He told me that he was looking in to it and that he will get back to me. So I have to wait. Or maybe someone will read this that has a fix for this issue and help us.
I just bought my Tilt too, it also came with 3.56 and WM6.1 but I had NO problems unlocking and flashing hard SPL to it.
Now, what happens when you run Jump 1.93? and are you running it directly from your main memory NOT from a SD card, and no SD card is in the phone?
If you follow the directions EXACTLY it will work.
1 Run Jump SPL from your main memory
2 tri color boot screen saying jump 1.93 should show up, with USB at the bottom
3 Unplug your device wait 30 sec and plug it back in
4 In Active sync on your PC disable USB connections (I've actually flashed spl's without doing this)
5 Now run the customRUU with the hard spl file you want to upload.
BerettaFreak said:
I just bought my Tilt too, it also came with 3.56 and WM6.1 but I had NO problems unlocking and flashing hard SPL to it.
Now, what happens when you run Jump 1.93? and are you running it directly from your main memory NOT from a SD card, and no SD card is in the phone?
If you follow the directions EXACTLY it will work.
1 Run Jump SPL from your main memory
2 tri color boot screen saying jump 1.93 should show up, with USB at the bottom
3 Unplug your device wait 30 sec and plug it back in
4 In Active sync on your PC disable USB connections (I've actually flashed spl's without doing this)
5 Now run the customRUU with the hard spl file you want to upload.
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Yes I did all that I'm very familar with the process this is my 5th tilt 2 of them the CID Unlock run just fine and the other 2 I that to run jump 1.56 to get pass the white screen. But for some reason I cant get anything to work on this tilt. I even try to install the OG WM6.0 to try to downgrade the spl but that did work either. Do you have any other suggestions?
IIRC for me to run the CID unlocker program I needed to flash the SPL first.
What is happening when you are trying to run the Jump SPL files? It's just not making sense.
You need to flash Hard SPL 3.29 BEFORE you try to run the unlocker, you can't do 3.56 then try to unlock it. Once its unlocked then flash it with hard 3.56 if you so desire.
Also after doing the 3.29 spl you need the proper cracked radio flashed to allow you to unlock the device, are you skipping that step?
It sounds like your trying to do an SPL upgrade and NOT SIM unlock the device since that step comes after.
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Also after doing the 3.29 spl you need the proper cracked radio flashed to allow you to unlock the device, are you skipping that step?
It sounds like your trying to do an SPL upgrade and NOT SIM unlock the device since that step comes after.
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No what I'm trying to do is CID Unlock my phone but is not working I get the white screen. I have tried everything I know to get pass it. I'm not trying to install hard spl 3.29 or 3.56. I have to CID Unlock my phone first right? That is what I've always done before. I'm out of ideas.
What is on your phone right now?
Factory SPL?
Factory 6.1 rom?
If so you need to run Oli's Sim Unlocker and CID Unlocker exe, this will FIRST flash a 3.29 hard SPL to your phone, THEN then next step is to flash a cracked radio and then you can sim and CID unlock your phone. As noted before tho a CID unlock is NOT necessary, if your Sim unlocked and Hard SPL'd you can do whatever you want to the phone.
BerettaFreak said:
What is on your phone right now?
Factory SPL?
Factory 6.1 rom?
If so you need to run Oli's Sim Unlocker and CID Unlocker exe, this will FIRST flash a 3.29 hard SPL to your phone, THEN then next step is to flash a cracked radio and then you can sim and CID unlock your phone. As noted before tho a CID unlock is NOT necessary, if your Sim unlocked and Hard SPL'd you can do whatever you want to the phone.
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Thank you very much for all your help BerettaFreak you are the man!
Heeey! Did my thread get hijacked?
Lol, Ok where to start..
skr_xd:
If you DON'T need to CID unlock, then the Newb instructions are a bit confusing. Why does it say to install HardSPL, then CID unlock?
What or why would I need to CID unlock separately? ..or is it the Security unlock bit, Or SuperCID that I'm still missing? There must be some point to it, Because Oli's Does HardSPL then SIM unlock, THEN CID unlock.
Vol22002:
I DID get HardSPL 3.56 installed. I used JumpSPL 1.56. DO remember to yank out the SD and SIM card. Note the very bottom of my post says those stats listed are BEFORE I installed HardSPL.
I still need some more help with finding a ROM, but I suppose that would be best addressed in a new thread, so I'll do that.
Thanks again!
Crogon said:
Lol, Ok where to start..
skr_xd:
If you DON'T need to CID unlock, then the Newb instructions are a bit confusing. Why does it say to install HardSPL, then CID unlock?
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CID Unlocking is done by installing the Hard SPL, the Hard SPL's don't check the Carrier ID (CID) when flashing new ROM's.
Crogon said:
What or why would I need to CID unlock separately? ..or is it the Security unlock bit, Or SuperCID that I'm still missing? There must be some point to it, Because Oli's Does HardSPL then SIM unlock, THEN CID unlock.
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SuperCID Set's your CID to 11111111, Security unlock removes an extra check when Flashing Radios to avoid you getting stuck on some radios.
Crogon said:
Vol22002:
I DID get HardSPL 3.56 installed. I used JumpSPL 1.56. DO remember to yank out the SD and SIM card. Note the very bottom of my post says those stats listed are BEFORE I installed HardSPL.
I still need some more help with finding a ROM, but I suppose that would be best addressed in a new thread, so I'll do that.
Thanks again!
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Just follow all the steps in the Guide by mskip and post and problems you have there. Understanding is not a pre-requisite, with that guide, you can figure out what all the steps do later...
Simply put:
HardSPL / CID Unlock / Super CID - Allows ROM's and Radio's to be flashed.
SIM Unlock - Allows you to use a foriegn SIM card
Security Unlock - Avoids problems when flashing some Radios.
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
SuperCID Set's your CID to 11111111, Security unlock removes an extra check when Flashing Radios to avoid you getting stuck on some radios.
Security Unlock - Avoids problems when flashing some Radios.
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Hey, thanks for the fast reply Dave!
Ok, So I COULD still Security unlock it, If I could find a security unlocker that worked with 3.56.
The bit about problems flashing radios sounds a bit like something that happens right before your phone becomes a brick. Could you point me to a resource about problem radios or how to avoid them?
I actually prefer to leave the radio alone, if I can get away with it. I just want a patched up ROM, as I mentioned earlier and in my new thread.
Anyway, If I end up needing to replace my radio, how do I avoid 'problem ones'. I understand that some radios simply don't work with some ROMs, but you seem to be eluding to something different here.
Thanks again!!
Crogon said:
Hey, thanks for the fast reply Dave!
Ok, So I COULD still Security unlock it, If I could find a security unlocker that worked with 3.56.
The bit about problems flashing radios sounds a bit like something that happens right before your phone becomes a brick. Could you point me to a resource about problem radios or how to avoid them?
I actually prefer to leave the radio alone, if I can get away with it. I just want a patched up ROM, as I mentioned earlier and in my new thread.
Anyway, If I end up needing to replace my radio, how do I avoid 'problem ones'. I understand that some radios simply don't work with some ROMs, but you seem to be eluding to something different here.
Thanks again!!
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To Security Unlock, just follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Then upgrade to HardSPL 3.56 again.
Security Unlocking is done by setting a flag in the NAND. It's permanent (unless you re-lock) and there are no comptability problems once it is set (you need to use a special Hard SPL to set it first though).
EDIT:
There is no list of known bad radio's - only the "Radio from Hell" 1.65.17.10 - but another Radio from hell could appear any day
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Dave
Thanks for clearing that up Dave.
I think I'm going to opt to ignore the security unlock, since it sounds like it's on an 'as needed' basis.
I have 'batter fish to fry' at the moment. I'm grinding gears trying to figure out HOW to figure out which ROMs I should be looking into, in my other thread.
By the by guys, I was joking about the 'hijacked thread' thing, I'm sure somebody will find the info useful.
Just when i though I had this all figured out and was about to Flash my first ROM.
I have read and re-read the flashing wikis and am still confused.
If your on WM6 then you need to use Jockyw2001's Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1 right? But if you are on WM6.1 then you use Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer right?
Well I am currently on WM6 pro and dont want to upgrade to 6.1 just to use Olipro's program. So I would go with Jocky's right. Then people say you need to flash a HardSPL first before doing the SuperCID and Security Unlocker. But then in Jocky's directions it says Note that the security unlocker does not work with "SPL-3.28.Hard" and "SPL-3.29.Hard".
So what SPL do you start with.
And I know Dave already told me this earlier that since I have an AT&T Tilt and I am with AT&T service then I dont have to worry about SIM unlocking obviously. So can I skip the whole CID/SUPER CID/SECURITY UNLOCK routine. Can I just Flash HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56 and then start playing with ROMS till my hearts content or is all the security stuff really that neccessary?
So I am lost once again. Wow. I dont know why I am not getting this.
P.S. On another note, I am using AT&T Tilt with shipped ROM running WM6 pro. I have about 40-50 programs installed on it. When first setting up my phone I did the soft reset which supposedly gets rid of the bloatware. Anyways, with all my programs and it being the stock ROM I still have 62MB free PROGRAM RAM. I do however only have like 30MB Storage RAM. But 62MB of free PROGRAM RAM. I see people with naked ROMS that only get like 55MB of free PROGRAM RAM, is my phone like magic or something? Just curious as to how this may be possible.
asofiker said:
Just when i though I had this all figured out.
I have read and re-read the flashing wikis and am still confused.
If your on WM6 then you need to use Jockyw2001's Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1 right? But if you are on WM6.1 then you use Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer right?
Well I am currently on WM6 pro and dont want to upgrade to 6.1 just to use Olipro's program. So I would go with Jocky's right. Then people say you need to flash a HardSPL first before doing the SuperCID and Security Unlocker. But then in Jocky's directions it says Note that the security unlocker does not work with "SPL-3.28.Hard" and "SPL-3.29.Hard".
So what SPL do you start with.
And I know Dave already told me this earlier that since I have an AT&T Tilt and I am with AT&T service then I dont have to worry about SIM unlocking obviously. So can I skip the whole CID/SUPER CID/SECURITY UNLOCK routine. Can I just Flash HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56 and then start playing with ROMS till my hearts content or is all the security stuff really that neccessary?
So I am lost once again. Wow. I dont know why I am not getting this.
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There is a Hard SPL 1 by pof. Flash that first then follow Jocky's instructions.
Also the OliPro Security unlock isn't permenant, next time you flash a Radio it's gone.
Ta
Dave
Ok so Flash the Hard SPL 1 by pof
Then follow Jockys directions in using his Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1
Then Flash either HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56. WHichever I choose?
Then go crazy with playing with different ROMS.
P.S. So every time you Flash a HardSPL it overwrites the previous one? Or do you have to get rid of a HardSPL first before putting a new one on?
asofiker said:
Ok so Flash the Hard SPL 1 by pof
Then follow Jockys directions in using his Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1
Then Flash either HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56. WHichever I choose?
Then go crazy with playing with different ROMS.
P.S. So every time you Flash a HardSPL it overwrites the previous one? Or do you have to get rid of a HardSPL first before putting a new one on?
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Flashing a new SPL overrides the old one.
You said before you were happy with WM6.0, if so use either the pof Hard SPL v1 or the jockyw Hard SPL v1.1 (Part of the security unlock); if you are using WM6.1, use one of the jockyw or cmonex Hard SPL 3.**. Using the wrong version won't break your phone, but Windows will randomly freeze.
Ta
Dave
Thanks again Dave for helpin me out and not tearing me a new one. But just one last question.
If I find a new ROM that I want to Flash and it uses WM6.1 then I have to make sure that I flash a HardSPL 3.xx before flashing that new ROM, is that what ur saying?
Friends,
So far I have had no problems flasing hardspl and chef roms. I know this is a stupid question but I would imagine this would void the warranty of the device with my at&t provider?
I have my own personal insurance on the device (not with at&t). But what if I start experiencing problems with the device. Would there be a way to revert back to the custom rom and change the hardspl?
Please advise.
tvos
just find the att stock rom on this forum..not sure where it is as i havent looked through the roms as i dont own a fuze but have been active in the forum because i plan on getting one SOON..and for hardspl..dont know about ehre but like in the kaiser forum they have att stock spl and you revert back by using a SSPL (Software SPL) that is in EXE format and you open it in the file manager and it loads up the bootloader and then you flash the old SPL from there because you cant load a SPL from the normal bootloader because SPL IS YOUR BOOTLOADER so just look for those or wait for someone to post the needed files (you can find the att stock rom for sure) but in actuality alot of people have gotten away without reverting the SPL (i havent heard of anyone getting charged for voiding the warranty) but if you want to be safe you can always go down to a DSC (Device Spport Center) (http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB91429 for a list of DSC's) and once they swap it your home free and they have never checked the bootloader for me (well everytime ive broughten it in it was stuck in bootloader but they never examined the screen) so yah thats my 2 cents ;-)
ive exchanged multiple tilts with warranty exchange, and never had an issue with the hardspl. i would always flash the stock rom back on though