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Hi Guys,
i pointed out that if you have G4 you wont be able to bring it back to the original stand-so you will loose your warranty in any case if you update your G4 model with new ipl/spl cause so far i know there is no way to downgrade it again.You wont be able to install original Software until your device is CID locked and there is no solution for cid unlocking for G4 so far.
charliess said:
i pointed out that if you have G4 you wont be able to bring it back to the original stand-so you will loose your warranty in any case if you update your G4 model with new ipl/spl cause so far i know there is no way to downgrade it again.
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Why to upgrade IPL/SPL ???
charliess said:
You wont be able to install original Software until your device is CID locked and there is no solution for cid unlocking for G4 so far.
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There is no free CID unlock, it's different
And you be able to install original software but not able to install official Operating System from other country , really different.
you can flash any Rom you want without any CID unlocked, just you can't downgarde the SPL, so just remove the SPL from any rom, so you are the Newbie here, there was a lot of threads bout this, sorry
IPL SPL, the software that runs the hardware, it is like bios of the motherboard or firmware of any hardware, it is important to update them
paradis_pal said:
you can flash any Rom you want without any CID unlocked, just you can't downgarde the SPL, so just remove the SPL from any rom, so you are the Newbie here, there was a lot of threads bout this, sorry
IPL SPL, the software that runs the hardware, it is like bios of the motherboard or firmware of any hardware, it is important to update them
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ähm sorry...but in any case -then tell me please how to get back the warranty it is not possible or?if you update ipl/spl what happens normally just by updating your os with the files you can download from here-gullums etc. then there is no way back to install the original updates from o2.Sure you can CID unlock for money- who wants that?i want it for free but there is no solution.So i started this thread juust to warn noObs not to update cause there is no way back without paying.got it? also i flashed my phone without ipl/spl i ve never said it doesnt work but i guess doing that wont give back warranty cause they also check ipl and spl and see that the device has been upgraded with some other versions->warranty gone.So instead of telling me what to post and saying that im the "dumb" you should bring solutions or simply not comment this thread-cause nobody could helped me with my problem i got no answers,so now to answer this thread is anything but not useful-sry guys my opinion
please check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300356
if you missunderstand someting please ask me
paradis_pal said:
please check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300356
if you missunderstand someting please ask me
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thank you for this thread but i already know it,even it is possible to install the different os versions without CID lock by following steps in this thread you wont be able to use the updates provided on the O2 site and IPL / SPL is still different to the originial ones-i wanted to sell my phone i have 1 year warranty left but i guess it doenst matter-who would buy a prophet with warranty if O2 would say it as none,cause it has being modified and who would buy a prophet if you are not able to install original software without spending money for this or something like that.but thx for your help
online warranty, will check the SPL? is that what you mean?
you may wait for my solution to write SPL using pdocwrite,
IPL can be downgrade without any problem, only spl has the problem, and if you write the SPL using pdocwrite, and install all using nb2nbf it will be again your old phone
SPL has nothing to do with OS, if you just install os.nb and extention.nb, no one can check it online,
I think, you may download your o2 orginial rom, and extract the nb files, make new one without only SPL it will work and maybe the supports guys will not notice, it will be your phone again
untell I write how to write the SPL using pdocwrite, if you restore your old SPL even the HTC support can't notice you istalled other roms
I had 2 modified prophet back to warranty and they don't check the IPL/SPL stuff.... lol do you think they care about that ? And spend a tech to check dead devices for boot loaders ? no way
Maybe HTC do, but then they don't care anymore.
You just have to put your old rom back.... if you had back it up or are able to find a download that suits.
@paradis_pal: if I understood correctly, your solution will downgrade the IPL/SPL but with a higher version number to fake the protection, so it will still appear as modified
no, using pdocwrite will flash 2.20 again
and you misunderstood me, I was writing what charliess was thinking, I think no one will check the SPL as you wrote, if you read my first post in this thread you wouldn't misunderstood me
does any one now how to lower the spl . when u start the ppc mine is 3.08 and i need it lower so i can unlock my phone
Well, my guess is that your phone is already unlocked if your SPL is 3.08.
Is is a G3 or G4 Wizard?
G3 But I Wont To Put Black Diamond On It
So just try to launch the setup for BD to know if it really isn't already unlocked (in case it is, the Rom will install, and if it isn't, then it just won't, so theres' no risk for your phone.
Ya It Says Like Bnf Error
So you just have to follow the Wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
i need to downgrade me spl first i no how to unlock it
So what? Can't you READ? Everything is written in there, including the way to downgrade.
Here is a link to the adequate Rom since you seem so lazy...
Good luck
http://c4software.another-team.com/wm5.0/Downgrade/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
lol im not lazy i have read so many tutorials on to unlock to phone
Just to forewarn you, do not install the downgrade ROM until you bring your IPL/SPL down from 3.08 to 2.xx. If you don't you may end up like a lot of other people on here where you can't upgrade the IPL after you get done unlocking your phone and go to install WM6. To get it down, just go to your service providers website and download their official version of their ROM and install it first and that should bring your IPL/SPL down to a 2.xx version, then flash the downgrade ROM.
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Just to forewarn you, do not install the downgrade ROM until you bring your IPL/SPL down from 3.08 to 2.xx. If you don't you may end up like a lot of other people on here where you can't upgrade the IPL after you get done unlocking your phone and go to install WM6. To get it down, just go to your service providers website and download their official version of their ROM and install it first and that should bring your IPL/SPL down to a 2.xx version, then flash the downgrade ROM.
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I did find one workaround that appears to almost always work is to have a minisd with a dumped raw image of a previous rom with ipl/spl included (r2d all command)...this was able to downgrade a phone on 3.08 back to 2.24 even after having gone to wm6. (it downgraded it back to wm5 at the same time)...conventional flashes were failing due to the ipl/spl.
ok thanks i will do that then i will unlock smart thinking
famewolf said:
I did find one workaround that appears to almost always work is to have a minisd with a dumped raw image of a previous rom with ipl/spl included (r2d all command)...this was able to downgrade a phone on 3.08 back to 2.24 even after having gone to wm6. (it downgraded it back to wm5 at the same time)...conventional flashes were failing due to the ipl/spl.
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Yeah, downgrading your IPL/SPL is easy, it's when you go from a 3.xx IPL/SPL straight to a 1.xx IPL/SPL that can cause problems, like your IPL sticking at 1.01 afterwards and not wanting to upgrade back to a higher IPL.
YA but i cant find a downgrade for my spl
In the future, don't send private messages to people who haven't contributed to this thread. If you can't figure out how to downgrade and/or unlock your phone after reading the many, many threads on how to do it, I suggest sticking with WM5.
Here, run this. It's an IPL/SPL version only. It won't affect anything you info or programs you have loaded on your phone right now, all it will do is lower you back down to an IPL/SPL of 2.26.
ya that made me ipl 2.26 not my spl
That's not normal, try running it again. I think I just put a file that will change it to 2.25 in another post that you started. If the 2.26 one doesn't work after running it again, try the 2.25 one and see if it works for you.
Just install a factory T-Mo or Cingular ROM
(Gotta locate 1 yourself)
You'll lose all your info but you wanted to flash another Rom anyway.
You gotta keep a factory Rom handy when things go wrong
cujo did you just buy an 8125 because you think it looks cool or do you actually understand the phone? It seems to me like you should be using a razr or something less complex than that...
Hi guys,
I've just implemented a Vox USPL which allows you to flash any Vox ROM updates, i.e. you can flash any *official* ROM even if your phone's model and vendor ID doesn't match. It's confirmed that you can also flash cooked ROMs
This SPL is based on original Vox 1.16 SPL but includes 3 patches:
1) g_cKeyCardSecurityLevel = 0 (set 32)
2) Does not check Model & Vendor ID
3) Does not check signature*
(*) code must be formally signed i.e. contain properly-formatted signatures on the right places, however no checking is performed against them.
This means you can flash ANY ROM to your Vox after running USPL on it, no need to pay for CID unlock anymore!
The USPL will *not* help you to SIM unlock your device. You still have to pay for that.
The USPL runs in RAM and is *not* flashed to your device, so there is no risk there. Once it runs you can run any official Vox ROM update utility.
The USPL does *not* permanently CID unlock your phone, like the CID unlocker from imei-check or so.
After you flashed a ROM your phone is again CID locked. Each time you wonna flash a ROM with a different model and/or vendor ID (different from your phone) or a cooked ROM, you must run the USPL again and then flash the ROM.
It's beta and untested and the risk is entirely yours !! Don't blame me if you brick your phone
EDIT:
You can now also flash the USPL allowing you to flash any unsigned (cooked ROM or ROM module, e.g. radio or OS) or signed ROM with any model/vendor ID. The USPL substitutes your SPL until you perform a full ROM update. Consider it as an extra insurance in case something goes wrong with flashing cooked ROMs or any other ROM update !
Instructions:
1. Run the USPL (Vox USPL- CID BYPASS.zip)
2. Run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe (Vox-USPL-RUU.zip)
Have fun,
JockyW
The attachments:
SDA_ApplicationUnlock.zip : application unlocker if u need it
mtty1.42.zip : terminal emulator (not neccessary if u only do ROM updates, but if you wonna play with the bootloader commands you need it)
Vox-USPL-RUU.zip: flash version of USPL (Note: you must first run USPL from "Vox USPL- CID BYPASS.zip" before you can flash it with ROMUpdateUtility.exe from Vox-USPL-RUU.zip !!!)
Vox USPL- CID BYPASS.zip : instructions included
Credits: in particular to pof. This USPL and also the one for Excalibur is based on his USPL for the Elf. See here
I think this is one of the most fantastic news of the century!!!
Finally some cooking can start on this little device.
Thanks again,
Ka.
noob question
what the difference between sim unlock and cid unlock?
This can be found in various threads around here, anyway.
SIM Lock - You can't use a SIM from a different provider than the one who sold you the phone.
CID-Lock - You can't flash your phone with a ROM which hasn't been cooked by your provider (or manufacturer for HTC unbranded phones).
Ka.
jockyw2001 great but make one for htc oxygen pls.
htc s710 - rom
confirm this is working very gd
thanks for all yoru help and support to this fourm
hi, i tried the method described and when it runs haret my vox shuts down... and nothing happens, i have to turn it on myself.
madds said:
hi, i tried the method described and when it runs haret my vox shuts down... and nothing happens, i have to turn it on myself.
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Same here
anyone online right now wanna drop me a line about this... what do I do exactly with the ruu file. Do I place rom image in that folder while runnning update???
so i followed the instructions and executed the cid bypass(installed itsutils and haret). once i get to the end it says use mtty or flash with RUU. so I attempt to flash right after (am I supposed to flash while the screen is black) but its gives me a connections error. I figure its because the phone is off. So I turn it on and update with the RUU again but only make it to 3% before I get a invalid vendor id. Would anyone care to comment on how I can flash this vox to the dopod rom...
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hi, i tried the method described and when it runs haret my vox shuts down... and nothing happens, i have to turn it on myself.
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acid74 said:
Same here
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To the users who had the same problem as me I am currently flashing my phone and I managed to get past my problem by using the SDA Application unlocker on my vox. I always thought that HTC were already application unlocked. Was going crazy for a while but I guess I should've followed the instructions step-by-step regardless of what I thought.
Big up to jockyw2001(and of course pof for without him alot of us would still be using shipped rom) for this wicked tool.
Cheers
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To the users who had the same problem as me I am currently flashing my phone and I managed to get past my problem by using the SDA Application unlocker on my vox. I always thought that HTC were already application unlocked. Was going crazy for a while but I guess I should've followed the instructions step-by-step regardless of what I thought.
Big up to jockyw2001(and of course pof for without him alot of us would still be using shipped rom) for this wicked tool.
Cheers
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Thanx man,last night i figured it out too......hows the dopod ROM??
acid74 said:
Thanx man,last night i figured it out too......hows the dopod ROM??
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I only got this phone so I could upgrade it for a friend to stop the boot loop. It seems to have fixed that problem so I guess it's better than the other roms. On the other hand I can't stand smartphone's so my suggestion is to ditch your SP and switch to PPC . Also I read before hand that this ROM doesn't include Windows Live Messenger but it is included in the rom. Just thought I'd let u guys know.
input please
Just ran into another problem and would appreciate some input. I understand that USPL only works for one flash...but I wasn't aware that a hard reset counted as a flash. Regardless my device hung at the dopod boot screen after a hard reset. Is this normal after using USPL on a device, and if so does this occur with all devices??? I would hate to give a phone back and have to tell the person that they can't perform a hard reset...
neptune said:
Just ran into another problem and would appreciate some input. I understand that USPL only works for one flash...but I wasn't aware that a hard reset counted as a flash. Regardless my device hung at the dopod boot screen after a hard reset. Is this normal after using USPL on a device, and if so does this occur with all devices??? I would hate to give a phone back and have to tell the person that they can't perform a hard reset...
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If you flash a full ROM the SPL is overwritten with the one in the ROM (Dopod = 1.19). Nothing to do with USPL. Booting can take a long time after hard reset. Unplug battery and try again.
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If you flash a full ROM the SPL is overwritten with the one in the ROM (Dopod = 1.19). Nothing to do with USPL. Booting can take a long time after hard reset. Unplug battery and try again.
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Thanks, I got it to work eventually...Good to know USPL doesn't effect hard resets, I guess you learn something new everyday.
If I had to take a guess before hand I'd figure a SP would boot faster than a PPC, but I realize now that I'd be wrong...
thanks to all for the help, I can finally return this Vox back to its owner
cheers
Hi
I flashed my E650 in French with the swissrom (present on FTP), all works !
an idea to change the logo operator to HTC original ?
thanks
thought I fixed the problem. seems as if after a day it just hangs at the dopod screen. It was working fine everytime I had it. As soon as I give it back it seems to hang. Guess ima just flash it back to the HTC rom, too much hassle for just $20.
why SDA_ApplicationUnlock.zip can't unlock my Orange SPV E650?
Successful rom flash done on a spv e650 on a sim unlock device UK orange
Hey guys! been lurking around the forums for eons, but haven't 'dove in' till just recently. Have a couple of questions.
Some months ago I did the free upgrade to WinMO 6.1.
I got Tilt SID unlocked by calling up AT&T and telling them I was going to Europe. My T-mobile SIM card is working just fine.
After a few hours of cussing, I managed to beat HardSPL 3.56 into my phone, because it already had SPL 3.56 on it.
Now I'm stuck trying to CID unlock and I can't seem to find a utility to work with it. The 'chain' of threads I followed dead ended saying downgrade to get it work, but I don't want to do that. I had a hard enough time getting HardSPL 3.56 to install. Then I ran across Jockyw's CID unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837147 and found myself saying ooo and ahh! But, it won't work with ANY 3.xx HardSPL.
Is there a CID unlocker compatible with 3.56??
I'd love to have AT command mode stuff and etc. from jockyw's, but at this point I think I'll take whatever I can get without needing to downgrade.
I can't seem to find it now, but didn't there used to be a list of pre-cooked ROMs here somewhere?
I think what I'm aiming at is a fully patched / hacked 6.1 HTC ROM with everything fixed and no bugs. Preferably minus any bloatware. If it has recommended utilities pre-installed great, if not, no big loss. Did they ever finish hacking a video driver together? I lost track of that thread, and can't seem to find any current info.
I've been waiting for a working Linux distro for a HTC device for years, but I'm going to throw in the towel and make the best of what I can get on windows. I've spent over $3000 on these HTC devices over the years, but don't rely on them because of all the bugs. Once I get my Tilt patched up, I'm jumping ship and trading in my old ones for a G1.
Thanks for any help!
p.s. I DO have to CID unlock before I can install any other ROMs.. right??
p.p.s. Here's all the details if it's any help:
rom version 3.57.502.2 WWE
rom date 7/17/08
radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
tri-color screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
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Serial
image version 3.57.502.2
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05H
D 3.57.00.00
Note: This is BEFORE I updated to HardSPL 3.56
Thanks again!
If you have any of the HARD SPL installed(3.56 from your words).
You can flash any ROM you want.
No need to CID unlock separately.
With Hard SPL, your Device is CID unlocked already.
Your pda doesn't not have hard spl installed on it
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Hey guys! been lurking around the forums for eons, but haven't 'dove in' till just recently. Have a couple of questions.
Some months ago I did the free upgrade to WinMO 6.1.
I got Tilt SID unlocked by calling up AT&T and telling them I was going to Europe. My T-mobile SIM card is working just fine.
After a few hours of cussing, I managed to beat HardSPL 3.56 into my phone, because it already had SPL 3.56 on it.
Now I'm stuck trying to CID unlock and I can't seem to find a utility to work with it. The 'chain' of threads I followed dead ended saying downgrade to get it work, but I don't want to do that. I had a hard enough time getting HardSPL 3.56 to install. Then I ran across Jockyw's CID unlocker http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1837147 and found myself saying ooo and ahh! But, it won't work with ANY 3.xx HardSPL.
Is there a CID unlocker compatible with 3.56??
I'd love to have AT command mode stuff and etc. from jockyw's, but at this point I think I'll take whatever I can get without needing to downgrade.
I can't seem to find it now, but didn't there used to be a list of pre-cooked ROMs here somewhere?
I think what I'm aiming at is a fully patched / hacked 6.1 HTC ROM with everything fixed and no bugs. Preferably minus any bloatware. If it has recommended utilities pre-installed great, if not, no big loss. Did they ever finish hacking a video driver together? I lost track of that thread, and can't seem to find any current info.
I've been waiting for a working Linux distro for a HTC device for years, but I'm going to throw in the towel and make the best of what I can get on windows. I've spent over $3000 on these HTC devices over the years, but don't rely on them because of all the bugs. Once I get my Tilt patched up, I'm jumping ship and trading in my old ones for a G1.
Thanks for any help!
p.s. I DO have to CID unlock before I can install any other ROMs.. right??
p.p.s. Here's all the details if it's any help:
rom version 3.57.502.2 WWE
rom date 7/17/08
radio version: 1.65.21.18
protocol version: 25.88.40.05H
tri-color screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
.
.
Serial
image version 3.57.502.2
R 1.65.21.18
G 25.88.40.05H
D 3.57.00.00
Note: This is BEFORE I updated to HardSPL 3.56
Thanks again!
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I'm sorry to tell you that this:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
Is not hard spl and if you pda has hard spl installed is will say this:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.Hard
CPLD-8
I received my replacement Tilt 4 days ago from At&t and it came with WM6.1 and spl 3.56.0000 and you are right I cant find anything to change that spl. I have tried to CID UNlock and I get the white screen, so I tried jump spl 1.56 and 1.93 and neither one of them worked. So now I'm stuck with this 3.56.0000, I sent Jocky a PM and He told me that he was looking in to it and that he will get back to me. So I have to wait. Or maybe someone will read this that has a fix for this issue and help us.
I just bought my Tilt too, it also came with 3.56 and WM6.1 but I had NO problems unlocking and flashing hard SPL to it.
Now, what happens when you run Jump 1.93? and are you running it directly from your main memory NOT from a SD card, and no SD card is in the phone?
If you follow the directions EXACTLY it will work.
1 Run Jump SPL from your main memory
2 tri color boot screen saying jump 1.93 should show up, with USB at the bottom
3 Unplug your device wait 30 sec and plug it back in
4 In Active sync on your PC disable USB connections (I've actually flashed spl's without doing this)
5 Now run the customRUU with the hard spl file you want to upload.
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I just bought my Tilt too, it also came with 3.56 and WM6.1 but I had NO problems unlocking and flashing hard SPL to it.
Now, what happens when you run Jump 1.93? and are you running it directly from your main memory NOT from a SD card, and no SD card is in the phone?
If you follow the directions EXACTLY it will work.
1 Run Jump SPL from your main memory
2 tri color boot screen saying jump 1.93 should show up, with USB at the bottom
3 Unplug your device wait 30 sec and plug it back in
4 In Active sync on your PC disable USB connections (I've actually flashed spl's without doing this)
5 Now run the customRUU with the hard spl file you want to upload.
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Yes I did all that I'm very familar with the process this is my 5th tilt 2 of them the CID Unlock run just fine and the other 2 I that to run jump 1.56 to get pass the white screen. But for some reason I cant get anything to work on this tilt. I even try to install the OG WM6.0 to try to downgrade the spl but that did work either. Do you have any other suggestions?
IIRC for me to run the CID unlocker program I needed to flash the SPL first.
What is happening when you are trying to run the Jump SPL files? It's just not making sense.
You need to flash Hard SPL 3.29 BEFORE you try to run the unlocker, you can't do 3.56 then try to unlock it. Once its unlocked then flash it with hard 3.56 if you so desire.
Also after doing the 3.29 spl you need the proper cracked radio flashed to allow you to unlock the device, are you skipping that step?
It sounds like your trying to do an SPL upgrade and NOT SIM unlock the device since that step comes after.
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Also after doing the 3.29 spl you need the proper cracked radio flashed to allow you to unlock the device, are you skipping that step?
It sounds like your trying to do an SPL upgrade and NOT SIM unlock the device since that step comes after.
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No what I'm trying to do is CID Unlock my phone but is not working I get the white screen. I have tried everything I know to get pass it. I'm not trying to install hard spl 3.29 or 3.56. I have to CID Unlock my phone first right? That is what I've always done before. I'm out of ideas.
What is on your phone right now?
Factory SPL?
Factory 6.1 rom?
If so you need to run Oli's Sim Unlocker and CID Unlocker exe, this will FIRST flash a 3.29 hard SPL to your phone, THEN then next step is to flash a cracked radio and then you can sim and CID unlock your phone. As noted before tho a CID unlock is NOT necessary, if your Sim unlocked and Hard SPL'd you can do whatever you want to the phone.
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What is on your phone right now?
Factory SPL?
Factory 6.1 rom?
If so you need to run Oli's Sim Unlocker and CID Unlocker exe, this will FIRST flash a 3.29 hard SPL to your phone, THEN then next step is to flash a cracked radio and then you can sim and CID unlock your phone. As noted before tho a CID unlock is NOT necessary, if your Sim unlocked and Hard SPL'd you can do whatever you want to the phone.
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Thank you very much for all your help BerettaFreak you are the man!
Heeey! Did my thread get hijacked?
Lol, Ok where to start..
skr_xd:
If you DON'T need to CID unlock, then the Newb instructions are a bit confusing. Why does it say to install HardSPL, then CID unlock?
What or why would I need to CID unlock separately? ..or is it the Security unlock bit, Or SuperCID that I'm still missing? There must be some point to it, Because Oli's Does HardSPL then SIM unlock, THEN CID unlock.
Vol22002:
I DID get HardSPL 3.56 installed. I used JumpSPL 1.56. DO remember to yank out the SD and SIM card. Note the very bottom of my post says those stats listed are BEFORE I installed HardSPL.
I still need some more help with finding a ROM, but I suppose that would be best addressed in a new thread, so I'll do that.
Thanks again!
Crogon said:
Lol, Ok where to start..
skr_xd:
If you DON'T need to CID unlock, then the Newb instructions are a bit confusing. Why does it say to install HardSPL, then CID unlock?
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CID Unlocking is done by installing the Hard SPL, the Hard SPL's don't check the Carrier ID (CID) when flashing new ROM's.
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What or why would I need to CID unlock separately? ..or is it the Security unlock bit, Or SuperCID that I'm still missing? There must be some point to it, Because Oli's Does HardSPL then SIM unlock, THEN CID unlock.
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SuperCID Set's your CID to 11111111, Security unlock removes an extra check when Flashing Radios to avoid you getting stuck on some radios.
Crogon said:
Vol22002:
I DID get HardSPL 3.56 installed. I used JumpSPL 1.56. DO remember to yank out the SD and SIM card. Note the very bottom of my post says those stats listed are BEFORE I installed HardSPL.
I still need some more help with finding a ROM, but I suppose that would be best addressed in a new thread, so I'll do that.
Thanks again!
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Just follow all the steps in the Guide by mskip and post and problems you have there. Understanding is not a pre-requisite, with that guide, you can figure out what all the steps do later...
Simply put:
HardSPL / CID Unlock / Super CID - Allows ROM's and Radio's to be flashed.
SIM Unlock - Allows you to use a foriegn SIM card
Security Unlock - Avoids problems when flashing some Radios.
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
SuperCID Set's your CID to 11111111, Security unlock removes an extra check when Flashing Radios to avoid you getting stuck on some radios.
Security Unlock - Avoids problems when flashing some Radios.
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Hey, thanks for the fast reply Dave!
Ok, So I COULD still Security unlock it, If I could find a security unlocker that worked with 3.56.
The bit about problems flashing radios sounds a bit like something that happens right before your phone becomes a brick. Could you point me to a resource about problem radios or how to avoid them?
I actually prefer to leave the radio alone, if I can get away with it. I just want a patched up ROM, as I mentioned earlier and in my new thread.
Anyway, If I end up needing to replace my radio, how do I avoid 'problem ones'. I understand that some radios simply don't work with some ROMs, but you seem to be eluding to something different here.
Thanks again!!
Crogon said:
Hey, thanks for the fast reply Dave!
Ok, So I COULD still Security unlock it, If I could find a security unlocker that worked with 3.56.
The bit about problems flashing radios sounds a bit like something that happens right before your phone becomes a brick. Could you point me to a resource about problem radios or how to avoid them?
I actually prefer to leave the radio alone, if I can get away with it. I just want a patched up ROM, as I mentioned earlier and in my new thread.
Anyway, If I end up needing to replace my radio, how do I avoid 'problem ones'. I understand that some radios simply don't work with some ROMs, but you seem to be eluding to something different here.
Thanks again!!
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To Security Unlock, just follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Then upgrade to HardSPL 3.56 again.
Security Unlocking is done by setting a flag in the NAND. It's permanent (unless you re-lock) and there are no comptability problems once it is set (you need to use a special Hard SPL to set it first though).
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There is no list of known bad radio's - only the "Radio from Hell" 1.65.17.10 - but another Radio from hell could appear any day
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Dave
Thanks for clearing that up Dave.
I think I'm going to opt to ignore the security unlock, since it sounds like it's on an 'as needed' basis.
I have 'batter fish to fry' at the moment. I'm grinding gears trying to figure out HOW to figure out which ROMs I should be looking into, in my other thread.
By the by guys, I was joking about the 'hijacked thread' thing, I'm sure somebody will find the info useful.
Just when i though I had this all figured out and was about to Flash my first ROM.
I have read and re-read the flashing wikis and am still confused.
If your on WM6 then you need to use Jockyw2001's Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1 right? But if you are on WM6.1 then you use Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer right?
Well I am currently on WM6 pro and dont want to upgrade to 6.1 just to use Olipro's program. So I would go with Jocky's right. Then people say you need to flash a HardSPL first before doing the SuperCID and Security Unlocker. But then in Jocky's directions it says Note that the security unlocker does not work with "SPL-3.28.Hard" and "SPL-3.29.Hard".
So what SPL do you start with.
And I know Dave already told me this earlier that since I have an AT&T Tilt and I am with AT&T service then I dont have to worry about SIM unlocking obviously. So can I skip the whole CID/SUPER CID/SECURITY UNLOCK routine. Can I just Flash HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56 and then start playing with ROMS till my hearts content or is all the security stuff really that neccessary?
So I am lost once again. Wow. I dont know why I am not getting this.
P.S. On another note, I am using AT&T Tilt with shipped ROM running WM6 pro. I have about 40-50 programs installed on it. When first setting up my phone I did the soft reset which supposedly gets rid of the bloatware. Anyways, with all my programs and it being the stock ROM I still have 62MB free PROGRAM RAM. I do however only have like 30MB Storage RAM. But 62MB of free PROGRAM RAM. I see people with naked ROMS that only get like 55MB of free PROGRAM RAM, is my phone like magic or something? Just curious as to how this may be possible.
asofiker said:
Just when i though I had this all figured out.
I have read and re-read the flashing wikis and am still confused.
If your on WM6 then you need to use Jockyw2001's Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1 right? But if you are on WM6.1 then you use Olipro's Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocker & Changer right?
Well I am currently on WM6 pro and dont want to upgrade to 6.1 just to use Olipro's program. So I would go with Jocky's right. Then people say you need to flash a HardSPL first before doing the SuperCID and Security Unlocker. But then in Jocky's directions it says Note that the security unlocker does not work with "SPL-3.28.Hard" and "SPL-3.29.Hard".
So what SPL do you start with.
And I know Dave already told me this earlier that since I have an AT&T Tilt and I am with AT&T service then I dont have to worry about SIM unlocking obviously. So can I skip the whole CID/SUPER CID/SECURITY UNLOCK routine. Can I just Flash HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56 and then start playing with ROMS till my hearts content or is all the security stuff really that neccessary?
So I am lost once again. Wow. I dont know why I am not getting this.
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There is a Hard SPL 1 by pof. Flash that first then follow Jocky's instructions.
Also the OliPro Security unlock isn't permenant, next time you flash a Radio it's gone.
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Dave
Ok so Flash the Hard SPL 1 by pof
Then follow Jockys directions in using his Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1
Then Flash either HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56. WHichever I choose?
Then go crazy with playing with different ROMS.
P.S. So every time you Flash a HardSPL it overwrites the previous one? Or do you have to get rid of a HardSPL first before putting a new one on?
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Ok so Flash the Hard SPL 1 by pof
Then follow Jockys directions in using his Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker v0.1
Then Flash either HardSPL 3.29 or 3.56. WHichever I choose?
Then go crazy with playing with different ROMS.
P.S. So every time you Flash a HardSPL it overwrites the previous one? Or do you have to get rid of a HardSPL first before putting a new one on?
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Flashing a new SPL overrides the old one.
You said before you were happy with WM6.0, if so use either the pof Hard SPL v1 or the jockyw Hard SPL v1.1 (Part of the security unlock); if you are using WM6.1, use one of the jockyw or cmonex Hard SPL 3.**. Using the wrong version won't break your phone, but Windows will randomly freeze.
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Dave
Thanks again Dave for helpin me out and not tearing me a new one. But just one last question.
If I find a new ROM that I want to Flash and it uses WM6.1 then I have to make sure that I flash a HardSPL 3.xx before flashing that new ROM, is that what ur saying?
Friends,
So far I have had no problems flasing hardspl and chef roms. I know this is a stupid question but I would imagine this would void the warranty of the device with my at&t provider?
I have my own personal insurance on the device (not with at&t). But what if I start experiencing problems with the device. Would there be a way to revert back to the custom rom and change the hardspl?
Please advise.
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just find the att stock rom on this forum..not sure where it is as i havent looked through the roms as i dont own a fuze but have been active in the forum because i plan on getting one SOON..and for hardspl..dont know about ehre but like in the kaiser forum they have att stock spl and you revert back by using a SSPL (Software SPL) that is in EXE format and you open it in the file manager and it loads up the bootloader and then you flash the old SPL from there because you cant load a SPL from the normal bootloader because SPL IS YOUR BOOTLOADER so just look for those or wait for someone to post the needed files (you can find the att stock rom for sure) but in actuality alot of people have gotten away without reverting the SPL (i havent heard of anyone getting charged for voiding the warranty) but if you want to be safe you can always go down to a DSC (Device Spport Center) (http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB91429 for a list of DSC's) and once they swap it your home free and they have never checked the bootloader for me (well everytime ive broughten it in it was stuck in bootloader but they never examined the screen) so yah thats my 2 cents ;-)
ive exchanged multiple tilts with warranty exchange, and never had an issue with the hardspl. i would always flash the stock rom back on though