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I am a captionist for the deaf/hard of hearing and I use my laptop to type and give my client my phone to view what I'm typing. I am at different locations all the time. The way it has worked conveniently in the past for me is by bluetooth activesync connection and Innobec Sidewindow to use my phone as an extended display. I can no longer do that after updating from XP to windows Vista, so I am looking for alternatives.

Did you try Remote Desktop? That worked for me in Vista and 7

cmstackar said:
Did you try Remote Desktop? That worked for me in Vista and 7
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I'll be honest. I have a hard time setting up remote desktop, port forwarding, IP addresses, and all that. Can it be done through bluetooth?
I will be using this for my laptop and windows mobile phone to take to work at different locations. So I will be on the go the whole time. Will remote desktop be for me?
Also, I'm using Vista Home Premium, so is the Remote Desktop that came with my windows mobile phone even an option, or would I have to have Vista Ultimate?

it can be don using pan bluetooth but not bluetooth network connection over activesync
as when one take over the desktop the user is log'd out and that ends the activesync session

Rudegar said:
it can be don using pan bluetooth but not bluetooth network connection over activesync
as when one take over the desktop the user is log'd out and that ends the activesync session
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Thanks for that info. So I can do this with Vista Home right? I don't need Ultimate?
Can you please provide some info on how to go about setting up PAN bluetooth and remote desktop, or a link to some good info even. Thanks..
Edit: Is having a PAN bluetooth the same thing as having my device paired with my computer?

Well after 6 hours of trying to figure out how to remote desktop via bluetooth, I've given up. I got stuck trying to set up PAN bluetooth, since I could not find the option for PAN Bluetooth anywhere; I only found LAN Bluetooth Network. My bluetooth device must not support it.
I'm still desperately looking for alternatives if anybody has any ideas, otherwise I'll have to resort to installing XP and do it with Innobec Sidewindow like I've done in the past. I was hoping I didn't have to downgrade from Vista though.

VNC for windows mobile won't work ?

Gregory said:
VNC for windows mobile won't work ?
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VNC is remote desktop right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would need to have access to the internet in order to do this right? Can it be done via bluetooth?
Okay, regardless of that - I will attempt to do this if you can help me. If you have experience in this, can you tell me specific programs I will need to download for my phone and/or my laptop and I will try to go from there. Thanks.

Edit: I've updated the first post with more details on what I'm looking for.
As I'm looking further into VNC, I want to repeat that the computer I would be accessing through my phone will be taken to different locations with me while I'm at work. I'm only reading of features about having remote access to computers at home, or some fixed location. So I don't know if VNC is for me. Please let me know if that's correct, otherwise I will look further into it.

I tell ya, I'm real dedicated. I've been on this since I posted at 10am this morning and I've learned lots so far.
VNC seems to be a cool feature and I've successfully connected my laptop with my phone with my WLAN. I've still yet to figure out if I can do it without a wireless router or internet connection, using just bluetooth or wifi adapter. If anybody here has the answer, please let me know.
Thanks.

That damn Remote Desktop Mobile simply doesnt work!

I dont get it. Why it is not working for me on any computer, with windows xp, windows 7 and windows server 2008?
I tried it on several wifi-networks, I get an IP and everything like surfing on the web or contacting the router etc works.
But if I try to connect via Remote Desktop Mobile, it stucks on "Connecting.."
What I tried:
- connect from other desktop-computers via remote desktop - works.
- add a new user with password because someone told me that is relevant - dont work
- connect via IP or Hostname, with Username and password and without - dont work
- Tried several versions of RDM on my hd2 - none works.
Does anyone has a hint for me what I could try else to get this crap working? Yes of course I could make a VNC - Server and connect via a viewer like dotnet-vnc-viewer (actually I tried that and it works, so why not via remote-desktop-mobile?)

Personally, I can connect with the IP address and nothing else (I actually use a dynamic DNS service, but that just resolves a name to an IP, so it's the same thing). If I do it like that then I get my normal windows login prompt and can enter a username and password.
What actually happens if you do that?

I assume you have been able to connect in the past with other winmo devices. Did you enable remote access on the host machine. Right click My Computer--Remote Access Tab. Win7 can be funny. You may have to disable enhanced security. I've had no problems connecting, but I only connect on my home wifi.

In order for remote desktop to work you MUST have a password in your account !

In addition to requiring a password, the WinMo RDP client does not support Network Level Authentication for RDP connections. You need to disable that on the host.

i seriously doubt you will be able to connect with the mobile version of RDP to either a Windows 7 or a Server 2008 Machine. The most likely case will be that you can not connect because Win7/2008 thinks you are on a unsafe OS -.-
You get the same problem when trying to connect to a windows 7 remote desktop from XP as well. Nothing new at all

Tokolosh said:
i seriously doubt you will be able to connect with the mobile version of RDP to either a Windows 7 or a Server 2008 Machine. The most likely case will be that you can not connect because Win7/2008 thinks you are on a unsafe OS -.-
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I can connect fine to Windows 2008 R2, Windows 2008, Windows XP SP1, SP3 (didn't test SP2), Windows 2003 Server, Windows Vista, and Windows 7. Its not everything, but mostly everything. I tested this with the stock ROM and EnergyROM.
Tokolosh said:
You get the same problem when trying to connect to a windows 7 remote desktop from XP as well. Nothing new at all
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I agree. You are warned that it is "potentially unsafe to connect". However, you can simply click something like "Connect anyway" and check off "Do not warn on future connections to this computer". Problem solved.
And to be clear, this is NT 6.x RDP Client to NT 5.x Host.
NT 6.x ~ Vista/7 & Server varients, NT 5.x (XP, etc).

This may not be the problem or any help to you as there are probably other more technical reasons why its not working for you.
I also struggled for a long time to get working but it never did but as I didn't really need it I never tried too hard. Until one day I Installed Windows 7 Ultimate. Then it just worked as it should.
So I assumed you had to have the Ultimate Version of Windows for it to work. I may be wrong though.

mideel said:
I dont get it. Why it is not working for me on any computer, with windows xp, windows 7 and windows server 2008?
I tried it on several wifi-networks, I get an IP and everything like surfing on the web or contacting the router etc works.
But if I try to connect via Remote Desktop Mobile, it stucks on "Connecting.."
What I tried:
- connect from other desktop-computers via remote desktop - works.
- add a new user with password because someone told me that is relevant - dont work
- connect via IP or Hostname, with Username and password and without - dont work
- Tried several versions of RDM on my hd2 - none works.
Does anyone has a hint for me what I could try else to get this crap working? Yes of course I could make a VNC - Server and connect via a viewer like dotnet-vnc-viewer (actually I tried that and it works, so why not via remote-desktop-mobile?)
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Try to disable the phone, set it in flight mode, and just use wi-fi... btw have you enabled your server as an "terminal server"? i noticed that i just can connect to "terminal servers" never could connect to a work station, just a server.....

Strangely enough I just set this up yesterday, and it worked fine connecting to a Windows 7 box.
I just edited the port used (on PC I wanted to control) and forwarded the port through my router...
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server\WinStations\RDP-Tcp\PortNumber
I then allowed blank passwords in Local Policies...
Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Administrative Tools\Local Security Policy -> Local Policies\Secuirty Policies\Accounts: Limit local use of blank passwords (Disable)
It connected fine over the network and over the internet (using dynadns org account). It was impractical to use though because of the resolution and my fat sausage fingers, but still pretty cool.
Les

Ok guys, thanks for your help so far.
Okay, I will try to clarify my situation:
I already tried to connect with Flight-Mode, only wifi working. I CAN ping my HD2 and can ping the host I want to connect to.
My Account on the host HAS got a password set.
I already TRIED to put in only the IP (dont work) or either the IP, USER (dont work) OR IP, USER and PASSWORD. (dont work).
It's not a OS-Problem as far as I see, because from my WINXP Laptop I CAN connect to a WIN 7 PRO box AND a Windows Server 2008, so the Computers are configured correctly I suppose. On Windows 7, I also checked "Allow connections from any hosts running any version of Remote Desktop Mobile" (lowest security).
What the hell is wrong.. I flashed another ROM on my hd2 because I thougt maybe its ROM-related.. but that didnt help =/

to bad :-((
Thats to bad... i have a win2003 (rc2) at home, enabled Terminal server and open for rdp in my firewall/router and flashed miri v09 yesterday, opened rdp on my hd2 from work just now and connected trough gprs without doing any changes to my hd2... but like i sayed i have just been able to connect to servers..

mideel, check your messages

Thanks for your effort so far, no solution is avaiable for me yet.
I tried the hints of waxfresh which he sent me over PM (Portforwarding, set a Password, disable Firewall / Antivirus (I dont use any)..)
damn..like I said before.. a VNC connection worked without problems and configuration of ports or anything at LAN, so why doesnt it just work with Remote Desktop..

mideel said:
Thanks for your effort so far, no solution is avaiable for me yet.
I tried the hints of waxfresh which he sent me over PM (Portforwarding, set a Password, disable Firewall / Antivirus (I dont use any)..)
damn..like I said before.. a VNC connection worked without problems and configuration of ports or anything at LAN, so why doesnt it just work with Remote Desktop..
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same problem exists for me

benveq said:
same problem exists for me
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nice to read that I'm not the only one with this problem
Maybe together we can find out whats wrong with us or our versions of remote desktop mobile.
I'm currently on 2.10 german custom ROM if that matters, but the problem exists for a long time now, used 2.02 before.

task 29
Have u all done the MTTY( task 29) before you flashed a new rom?

Nope i didnt.. but could THIS be the problem? I flashed only 4 times since I got my HD2. Dont know how often I should do this task29

mideel said:
Nope i didnt.. but could THIS be the problem? I flashed only 4 times since I got my HD2. Dont know how often I should do this task29
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for everytime you flash..(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644781)
could be worth a shot....btw what rom version and radio u use?

I am using 21895 based 2.10 Rom with Manila 2.5.19211 and Radio: 2.08.50.08.2
dont want to reset my device again

Anyone get VNC or Remote Desktop to work over cell tower data connections?

I've noticed that so far no program that does a type of "remote desktop" function has gotten it to work over GPRS, EDGE, 3G or any sort of high speed connection that is not Wi-fi. Anyone know if a hack is needed or that it's a cellular provider that blocks it?

Its your network provider which blocks such ports. I am always connected via 3G/HSDPA...hardly use WiFi and work over RDP to my server.

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Its your network provider which blocks such ports. I am always connected via 3G/HSDPA...hardly use WiFi and work over RDP to my server.
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Can anyone else confirm this? Hopefully someone in the US with Tmobile.

I'm in U.S. on AT&T and it works fine. I am inclined to agree, that port 3389 is probably blocked by T-Mobile. You could try changing RDP port listening on the remote PC and seeing if you can make it work over a different port.

Hannigan174 said:
I'm in U.S. on AT&T and it works fine. I am inclined to agree, that port 3389 is probably blocked by T-Mobile. You could try changing RDP port listening on the remote PC and seeing if you can make it work over a different port.
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Where do you see an option to change ports? I'm using XP and don't see that option when enabling it. I've also tried VNC viewer with VNC Server running on my comp. Still can't get it to connect. Even port forwarded it, but I don't know if I did it rite or what.

Moved as not software release.

Phenomenon said:
Where do you see an option to change ports? I'm using XP and don't see that option when enabling it. I've also tried VNC viewer with VNC Server running on my comp. Still can't get it to connect. Even port forwarded it, but I don't know if I did it rite or what.
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you have the change the port on the server side. then from the client side you have to have a colon : then the port number that you changed the server to.

Phenomenon said:
Can anyone else confirm this? Hopefully someone in the US with Tmobile.
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I'm on Tmobile in the US and RDP and VNC work fine.

reuvenb said:
I'm on Tmobile in the US and RDP and VNC work fine.
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Over cellphone lines and NOT wifi?

reuvenb said:
I'm on Tmobile in the US and RDP and VNC work fine.
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Any chance you can post your settings? I've been reading on this and people are suggesting things like port forwarding and router settings, static IP, etc. Was urs all that complicated? Do you use a router or are connected to a network?

[HELP] Configuring Remote Desktop

I hope someone can help me out on configuring remote desktop client to connect to my PC.
I am intending to TF my tablet by bluetooth/wifi from my iPhone.
I currently have Remote Desktop on my TF and I am able to connect it successfully using my home wifi.
However, I have problem connecting, when I am using other connection.
I hope someone can really help me with this.
Thanks.

eyz said:
I hope someone can help me out on configuring remote desktop client to connect to my PC.
I am intending to TF my tablet by bluetooth/wifi from my iPhone.
I currently have Remote Desktop on my TF and I am able to connect it successfully using my home wifi.
However, I have problem connecting, when I am using other connection.
I hope someone can really help me with this.
Thanks.
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It sounds like the connection that is not working is probably blocking port 3389, which is the default port used for RDP. It's very common for public wifi networks to restrict ports including those used for remote desktop. Unless you know that other people are using this connection sucessfully for remote desktop, I would not assume that it's a problem with your tablet.

Or it's your router blocking remote desktop connections. Have you enabled port forwarding on your router?
On a side note, do you really want remote desktop open to the whole world? You should look into a VPN setup...

i believe there are users who are able to connect to the desktop from their office and school.
There was a thread on that apps and people are doing that. I tried asking for help, but I can't seem to figure it out.
Hence, I am putting this to the ground, and hope more forumers would be able to help
jemarti said:
It sounds like the connection that is not working is probably blocking port 3389, which is the default port used for RDP. It's very common for public wifi networks to restrict ports including those used for remote desktop. Unless you know that other people are using this connection sucessfully for remote desktop, I would not assume that it's a problem with your tablet.
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I think I did not do any port forwarding for my router, as it wasn't necessary.I don't why, and my BitComet is getting 2 green lights and able to hook up to remote connection. Previously, I need to setup port forwarding for my previous router.
I didn't know remote desktop is so vulnerable! In that case, I'll try to look up on VPN setup, before coming back here to ask question again.
Thanks.
rtadams89 said:
Or it's your router blocking remote desktop connections. Have you enabled port forwarding on your router?
On a side note, do you really want remote desktop open to the whole world? You should look into a VPN setup...
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Sounds like your pc is in the dmz.
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Monitor traffic

I am trying to monitor the traffic to the phone when connecting to the PC.
I found this:
http://www.fiddler2.com/fiddler/help/phone.asp
http://deletethis.net/dave/wpadserverfiddlerextension/
I followed the steps but it doesn't work for me.
I am not able to see any traffic.
If you don't know what Filddler is, it's a well known traffic logger, so don't be afraid to try it, it's very cool.
Does anyone can say if the extension is working?
Thanks!

I was more successful by using VirtualRouter to set up a hotspot, then connect the device to the newly created wireless network. Also, Fiddler is to some extent limited, so I would recommend WireShark (but then again, it is a matter of preference)

ZeBond said:
I was more successful by using VirtualRouter to set up a hotspot, then connect the device to the newly created wireless network. Also, Fiddler is to some extent limited, so I would recommend WireShark (but then again, it is a matter of preference)
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But I don't have a WiFi card\device on my computer.

andreiuc said:
But I don't have a WiFi card\device on my computer.
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Did you restart the DHCP Client service?

ZeBond said:
Did you restart the DHCP Client service?
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Yes. Is it working for you?

Has anyone tried putting a network monitor directly on the phone? I was going to attempt this but am not really having any luck. Since WP7 is built on CE7, I figured that I could compile the netlog utility from the platform builder and put it on the phone to log the traffic and then send the file to my PC to look at it with wireshark or whatever. The advantage here would be that you could see all the traffic, not just when it is plugged into the PC. The disadvantage obviously would be that you'd have to have a custom ROM with the programs on it already.
Unfortunately, I only have the CE6 platform builder at the moment so that is the DLL/exe that I am able to build. The netlog dll and the netlogctl exe build fine for the CE7 build target, but when I try to send commands to the driver I get an error on the DeviceIOControl call.