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I am a captionist for the deaf/hard of hearing and I use my laptop to type and give my client my phone to view what I'm typing. I am at different locations all the time. The way it has worked conveniently in the past for me is by bluetooth activesync connection and Innobec Sidewindow to use my phone as an extended display. I can no longer do that after updating from XP to windows Vista, so I am looking for alternatives.

Did you try Remote Desktop? That worked for me in Vista and 7

cmstackar said:
Did you try Remote Desktop? That worked for me in Vista and 7
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I'll be honest. I have a hard time setting up remote desktop, port forwarding, IP addresses, and all that. Can it be done through bluetooth?
I will be using this for my laptop and windows mobile phone to take to work at different locations. So I will be on the go the whole time. Will remote desktop be for me?
Also, I'm using Vista Home Premium, so is the Remote Desktop that came with my windows mobile phone even an option, or would I have to have Vista Ultimate?

it can be don using pan bluetooth but not bluetooth network connection over activesync
as when one take over the desktop the user is log'd out and that ends the activesync session

Rudegar said:
it can be don using pan bluetooth but not bluetooth network connection over activesync
as when one take over the desktop the user is log'd out and that ends the activesync session
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Thanks for that info. So I can do this with Vista Home right? I don't need Ultimate?
Can you please provide some info on how to go about setting up PAN bluetooth and remote desktop, or a link to some good info even. Thanks..
Edit: Is having a PAN bluetooth the same thing as having my device paired with my computer?

Well after 6 hours of trying to figure out how to remote desktop via bluetooth, I've given up. I got stuck trying to set up PAN bluetooth, since I could not find the option for PAN Bluetooth anywhere; I only found LAN Bluetooth Network. My bluetooth device must not support it.
I'm still desperately looking for alternatives if anybody has any ideas, otherwise I'll have to resort to installing XP and do it with Innobec Sidewindow like I've done in the past. I was hoping I didn't have to downgrade from Vista though.

VNC for windows mobile won't work ?

Gregory said:
VNC for windows mobile won't work ?
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VNC is remote desktop right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would need to have access to the internet in order to do this right? Can it be done via bluetooth?
Okay, regardless of that - I will attempt to do this if you can help me. If you have experience in this, can you tell me specific programs I will need to download for my phone and/or my laptop and I will try to go from there. Thanks.

Edit: I've updated the first post with more details on what I'm looking for.
As I'm looking further into VNC, I want to repeat that the computer I would be accessing through my phone will be taken to different locations with me while I'm at work. I'm only reading of features about having remote access to computers at home, or some fixed location. So I don't know if VNC is for me. Please let me know if that's correct, otherwise I will look further into it.

I tell ya, I'm real dedicated. I've been on this since I posted at 10am this morning and I've learned lots so far.
VNC seems to be a cool feature and I've successfully connected my laptop with my phone with my WLAN. I've still yet to figure out if I can do it without a wireless router or internet connection, using just bluetooth or wifi adapter. If anybody here has the answer, please let me know.
Thanks.

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Active sync through bluetooth

Hi Guys,
complete newby, know-nothing-boy here.
Got my xda orbit and just trying to get it all set up the way I want it to work. this is not easy given that I am a complete technophobe so everything's a massive learning curve.....
.....so, I got my orbit 2 connected to my works pc through Active sync and it talks to the calendar and everything appears to be fine and I've set up a bluetooth connection and can beam a file from my laptop to the phone. However, I cannot get my calendar/emails to up-date through bluetooth and neither me nor our IT guy can figure out why not!!!!
Can any guru on here help please.
Thanks,
David
Have you downloaded the new Mobile Device Center? Is your Laptop running XP or Vista? When I last sync'd with an XP machine via bluetooth, I could not sync contacts etc either, only worked with Vista for me.
namaste74 said:
Have you downloaded the new Mobile Device Center? Is your Laptop running XP or Vista? When I last sync'd with an XP machine via bluetooth, I could not sync contacts etc either, only worked with Vista for me.
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I'm on XP and I have not downloaded the new mobile device centre. where should I ge tit from??
Thanks,
David
Is this possible or is it a severe problem???
Does windows mobile centre only work with vista????
Cheers,
David
Hi David,
1. You have to pair your Touch with XP
2. Create a incoming port.
3. select the incoming port in active sync for connection
4. start activesync on touch
if you need further info please use the search function.
Best Regards
Yoshi
david_miller70 said:
Is this possible or is it a severe problem???
Does windows mobile centre only work with vista????
Cheers,
David
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Windows mobile device center works only with Vista
David,
I feel for you sir.
I've been a PDA / Pocket PC user for a LONG time. I've used a Kyocera 6035 (Palm-based Cell/PDA), Sprint 6601, Sprint 6700, AT&T 8525, and even a BlackJack II. So I've used Windows XP with a Pocket PC LOTS of times, but *I* had trouble while in Chicago this week.
A co-worker lent me his Sony VGX-UX280 for that trip. It's a Ultra Portable "laptop" with Bluetooth, Wireless, and Windows XP loaded. Having setup my phone to "tether" (aka provided an Internet Connection) to my Dell Inspiron 9400, a MacBook Pro, a MacBook, and other laptops... I didn't have any concerns about using my phone for Internet on the road. Boy, was that a mistake.
So I'm on the road, and I try to use Internet Sharing on my cell to provide a connection the laptop. It seems to connect, and the laptop tries to pull an IP connection over bluetooth, but it NEVER got a private IP address... so it assigns itself a 169 address that as many know isn't a "connected" IP for most network situations. It's a fallback, when a network device can't find a DHCP server to provide an IP address. Instead, it assigns one to itself, but it's offline.
I confirm that the "sharing" is part of the problem by running Internet Explorer. When "sharing" is connected", I couldn't get to a web page on the phone. If I disconnect, everything works as it should. So I'm like WTF?
I came out to this site and others from my phone browser, and one post said I needed ActiveSync connected between the phone and laptop to tether. So I tried setting up ActiveSync over bluetooth, but try as I might if would NEVER connect.
I then downloaded WMWifi something or other. It basically turns your WM phone into a Wireless AP so laptops and other devices can connect to the Internet. But similar to the Bluetooth problem, I couldn't pull an IP. This was VERY odd, because the Wifi program let you configure which IP numbers you wanted to use. Several options were available, such as 192.168.0.x, 192.168.1.x, up to 192.168.3.x. And there was another range as well, but none of these worked. Not even when I set a static IP address in the proper range on the laptop, or turned off the IP setting in the Wifi program, as suggested in their documentation.
So while trying to "fix" things, I tried deleting my existing Activesync profile. BAD idea, as that deleted all my contacts and such from the phone. So then I'm in Chicago, 2000 miles from home, and the only phone numbers I have with NO names is what is in my call history.
At this point, I figure I have one of two problems.
1) The config to the AT&T network on my cell is wrong, which is why the connection isn't working as it had in the past. I do know that while the AT&T settings auto-configured by the Touch Cruise weren't perfect after the wizard ran. I went out to AT&T's web site, and customized my settings to match the Tilt recommended configure. I also configured a "standard" GPRS setting that DOES NOT use the AT&T Proxy Server. That's been the ONLY way I can use Skype .6, as it can't connect to their website through Media Net.
2) One of the many programs I've installed on my phone has fouled the registry/config of my phone. I made a list of all the apps I've installed on my phone, and I suppose any one of these could have screwed up my ability to tether...
Skyfire .6
Flash Player Active X
CoreCodec Coreplayer
HTC HTC Home - Schen 2.10
MS Remote Desktop
Bluefire
Total Commander
PM Registry Editor
iNav iGuidance
Franson GpsGate 2.0
Google Maps
With the above, I can navigate anywhere in the US, connect to my work network with VPN, control my computer there like I was in my chair, and much more. But obviously not being able to get to the Internet on the road is unacceptable.
Probably will hard reset the phone this morning, and take it from there.
Sorry if it seems like I took over your thread. But like you, I had NO luck connecting ActiveSync through Bluetooth.
(Quick note: Even when I borrowed a USB Cable on the road, and tried to tether my laptop to my phone for Internet... I STILL couldn't get IE to connect to websites via my phone. I COULD use Activesync, but by then I'd already lost my contacts, etc. So I'll get that back on the phone now that I'm home.)

Remote Desktop via direct Wifi

Is there a program or way i can use remote desktop without having a router connect to my laptop. So using the built in wifi on the laptop to connect to my HD2.
Or even bluetooth..
Just an idea as I can't have a router here at uni.
are you trying to basically surf the web from your laptop using your HD2?
you need something like internet sharing which is available on the Device itself (its a standard Windows thing). you need to set it up though, and of course make sure your device has internet access (GPRS/whatever connection methods).
Nah not using the internet, but to view and control my pc from my phone over wifi.
gotcha. why would you wanna do that?
but anyway...dont think it is possible like that as the wireless on the laptop will not act as a DHCP (like a router does) to give an IP to clients who are connecting to it.
It would be cool though to be able to use it as a remote control to perhaps skip or play music etc. But connecting through wifi would be impossible i think.
I recall with my old old old sony ericsson phone I could connect to my computer using a bluetooth dongle and control music and even the mouse cursor...such an awesome feature. A bluetooth program for the HD2 would be good providing you have a bluetooth dongle.
funny you should mention an app like that as I developed an app a few years ago which does just that called WMP Remote.
basically, you connect it via bluetooth or wireless (as long as you get an activesync connection going, or even wireless with a router) and then get a list of files from a certain directly, play/pause/vol up/down from the Mobile application and play files in full screen and so on....
haven't updated it in a LONG time but was a big hit back then.
also developed another app called DAR~ling, which is a Digital Audio Recorder
firehawk2010 said:
funny you should mention an app like that as I developed an app a few years ago which does just that called WMP Remote.
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Firehawk
It looks an awesome App, but does not work with WM6.5 & Windows 7 (not sure which one cause the issue).
IMHO worth some re-development and putting on Windows Market Place $$$ I'd buy.
Ben
aww, thats encouraging mate! Thanks!
not sure why it doesnt run on your devices? I ran it on my Samsung omnia which runs WM 6.1 - works fine.
I've also got a WM5 device...works fine on that. the issues are just the screen display!
I have been meaning to "start" the project again but just had no time at all. been so busy.
HELLO
T2 REMOTE TOUCH
Very nice program. I use it to do anything to my computer because I'm too lazy to get down of the bed. I use it when it was beta and the only bad thing was that he only had color mode for free
Anyway if you can manage to create a wireless network connection (AD-HOC) with designeted IP's it's going to work. I don't know about the port dough.
Anyway, I have windows XP, and I don't know very much about win7's configuration.
GOOD LUCK

That damn Remote Desktop Mobile simply doesnt work!

I dont get it. Why it is not working for me on any computer, with windows xp, windows 7 and windows server 2008?
I tried it on several wifi-networks, I get an IP and everything like surfing on the web or contacting the router etc works.
But if I try to connect via Remote Desktop Mobile, it stucks on "Connecting.."
What I tried:
- connect from other desktop-computers via remote desktop - works.
- add a new user with password because someone told me that is relevant - dont work
- connect via IP or Hostname, with Username and password and without - dont work
- Tried several versions of RDM on my hd2 - none works.
Does anyone has a hint for me what I could try else to get this crap working? Yes of course I could make a VNC - Server and connect via a viewer like dotnet-vnc-viewer (actually I tried that and it works, so why not via remote-desktop-mobile?)
Personally, I can connect with the IP address and nothing else (I actually use a dynamic DNS service, but that just resolves a name to an IP, so it's the same thing). If I do it like that then I get my normal windows login prompt and can enter a username and password.
What actually happens if you do that?
I assume you have been able to connect in the past with other winmo devices. Did you enable remote access on the host machine. Right click My Computer--Remote Access Tab. Win7 can be funny. You may have to disable enhanced security. I've had no problems connecting, but I only connect on my home wifi.
In order for remote desktop to work you MUST have a password in your account !
In addition to requiring a password, the WinMo RDP client does not support Network Level Authentication for RDP connections. You need to disable that on the host.
i seriously doubt you will be able to connect with the mobile version of RDP to either a Windows 7 or a Server 2008 Machine. The most likely case will be that you can not connect because Win7/2008 thinks you are on a unsafe OS -.-
You get the same problem when trying to connect to a windows 7 remote desktop from XP as well. Nothing new at all
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i seriously doubt you will be able to connect with the mobile version of RDP to either a Windows 7 or a Server 2008 Machine. The most likely case will be that you can not connect because Win7/2008 thinks you are on a unsafe OS -.-
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I can connect fine to Windows 2008 R2, Windows 2008, Windows XP SP1, SP3 (didn't test SP2), Windows 2003 Server, Windows Vista, and Windows 7. Its not everything, but mostly everything. I tested this with the stock ROM and EnergyROM.
Tokolosh said:
You get the same problem when trying to connect to a windows 7 remote desktop from XP as well. Nothing new at all
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I agree. You are warned that it is "potentially unsafe to connect". However, you can simply click something like "Connect anyway" and check off "Do not warn on future connections to this computer". Problem solved.
And to be clear, this is NT 6.x RDP Client to NT 5.x Host.
NT 6.x ~ Vista/7 & Server varients, NT 5.x (XP, etc).
This may not be the problem or any help to you as there are probably other more technical reasons why its not working for you.
I also struggled for a long time to get working but it never did but as I didn't really need it I never tried too hard. Until one day I Installed Windows 7 Ultimate. Then it just worked as it should.
So I assumed you had to have the Ultimate Version of Windows for it to work. I may be wrong though.
mideel said:
I dont get it. Why it is not working for me on any computer, with windows xp, windows 7 and windows server 2008?
I tried it on several wifi-networks, I get an IP and everything like surfing on the web or contacting the router etc works.
But if I try to connect via Remote Desktop Mobile, it stucks on "Connecting.."
What I tried:
- connect from other desktop-computers via remote desktop - works.
- add a new user with password because someone told me that is relevant - dont work
- connect via IP or Hostname, with Username and password and without - dont work
- Tried several versions of RDM on my hd2 - none works.
Does anyone has a hint for me what I could try else to get this crap working? Yes of course I could make a VNC - Server and connect via a viewer like dotnet-vnc-viewer (actually I tried that and it works, so why not via remote-desktop-mobile?)
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Try to disable the phone, set it in flight mode, and just use wi-fi... btw have you enabled your server as an "terminal server"? i noticed that i just can connect to "terminal servers" never could connect to a work station, just a server.....
Strangely enough I just set this up yesterday, and it worked fine connecting to a Windows 7 box.
I just edited the port used (on PC I wanted to control) and forwarded the port through my router...
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server\WinStations\RDP-Tcp\PortNumber
I then allowed blank passwords in Local Policies...
Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Administrative Tools\Local Security Policy -> Local Policies\Secuirty Policies\Accounts: Limit local use of blank passwords (Disable)
It connected fine over the network and over the internet (using dynadns org account). It was impractical to use though because of the resolution and my fat sausage fingers, but still pretty cool.
Les
Ok guys, thanks for your help so far.
Okay, I will try to clarify my situation:
I already tried to connect with Flight-Mode, only wifi working. I CAN ping my HD2 and can ping the host I want to connect to.
My Account on the host HAS got a password set.
I already TRIED to put in only the IP (dont work) or either the IP, USER (dont work) OR IP, USER and PASSWORD. (dont work).
It's not a OS-Problem as far as I see, because from my WINXP Laptop I CAN connect to a WIN 7 PRO box AND a Windows Server 2008, so the Computers are configured correctly I suppose. On Windows 7, I also checked "Allow connections from any hosts running any version of Remote Desktop Mobile" (lowest security).
What the hell is wrong.. I flashed another ROM on my hd2 because I thougt maybe its ROM-related.. but that didnt help =/
to bad :-((
Thats to bad... i have a win2003 (rc2) at home, enabled Terminal server and open for rdp in my firewall/router and flashed miri v09 yesterday, opened rdp on my hd2 from work just now and connected trough gprs without doing any changes to my hd2... but like i sayed i have just been able to connect to servers..
mideel, check your messages
Thanks for your effort so far, no solution is avaiable for me yet.
I tried the hints of waxfresh which he sent me over PM (Portforwarding, set a Password, disable Firewall / Antivirus (I dont use any)..)
damn..like I said before.. a VNC connection worked without problems and configuration of ports or anything at LAN, so why doesnt it just work with Remote Desktop..
mideel said:
Thanks for your effort so far, no solution is avaiable for me yet.
I tried the hints of waxfresh which he sent me over PM (Portforwarding, set a Password, disable Firewall / Antivirus (I dont use any)..)
damn..like I said before.. a VNC connection worked without problems and configuration of ports or anything at LAN, so why doesnt it just work with Remote Desktop..
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same problem exists for me
benveq said:
same problem exists for me
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nice to read that I'm not the only one with this problem
Maybe together we can find out whats wrong with us or our versions of remote desktop mobile.
I'm currently on 2.10 german custom ROM if that matters, but the problem exists for a long time now, used 2.02 before.
task 29
Have u all done the MTTY( task 29) before you flashed a new rom?
Nope i didnt.. but could THIS be the problem? I flashed only 4 times since I got my HD2. Dont know how often I should do this task29
mideel said:
Nope i didnt.. but could THIS be the problem? I flashed only 4 times since I got my HD2. Dont know how often I should do this task29
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for everytime you flash..(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644781)
could be worth a shot....btw what rom version and radio u use?
I am using 21895 based 2.10 Rom with Manila 2.5.19211 and Radio: 2.08.50.08.2
dont want to reset my device again

controll laptop from windows mobile(TD2)

I were tried Gremeto server it dont work also search for others appl but unsucsesful ;d maybe any1 know any program and tried if it works pretty good post here
i am using it - there shouldnt be any problems..
the Gremote server is running in systray on your computer.
make sure the phone has connection via bluetooth.
on the mobile open Gremote client and make a profile with the computer as host - connect
it works like a charm but it takes time to master the wheel funktion...
hi there, i'm using a HTC Touch Diamond2 with winmo 6.5 stock rom and i can only get the program to work when it's connected through usb...
i'm using the free version and the Gremoteserver doesn't give me an IP address to connect to, unless the phone is connected through usb....
any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
Gremote should use your LAN IP if you wanna connect via WIFI from your Phone. So essentially, your IP will be the IP assigned by your router (which you can check by going into control panel>network and sharing center/network connections> then the adapter properties page). Then just connect your PDA to the WiFi network and use that IP to connect.
Alternatively, if you just wanna control the PC but dont mind seeing the screen on the PDA. you could use programs like Salling Clicker or GRemote(i think thats it)

[HELP] Configuring Remote Desktop

I hope someone can help me out on configuring remote desktop client to connect to my PC.
I am intending to TF my tablet by bluetooth/wifi from my iPhone.
I currently have Remote Desktop on my TF and I am able to connect it successfully using my home wifi.
However, I have problem connecting, when I am using other connection.
I hope someone can really help me with this.
Thanks.
eyz said:
I hope someone can help me out on configuring remote desktop client to connect to my PC.
I am intending to TF my tablet by bluetooth/wifi from my iPhone.
I currently have Remote Desktop on my TF and I am able to connect it successfully using my home wifi.
However, I have problem connecting, when I am using other connection.
I hope someone can really help me with this.
Thanks.
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It sounds like the connection that is not working is probably blocking port 3389, which is the default port used for RDP. It's very common for public wifi networks to restrict ports including those used for remote desktop. Unless you know that other people are using this connection sucessfully for remote desktop, I would not assume that it's a problem with your tablet.
Or it's your router blocking remote desktop connections. Have you enabled port forwarding on your router?
On a side note, do you really want remote desktop open to the whole world? You should look into a VPN setup...
i believe there are users who are able to connect to the desktop from their office and school.
There was a thread on that apps and people are doing that. I tried asking for help, but I can't seem to figure it out.
Hence, I am putting this to the ground, and hope more forumers would be able to help
jemarti said:
It sounds like the connection that is not working is probably blocking port 3389, which is the default port used for RDP. It's very common for public wifi networks to restrict ports including those used for remote desktop. Unless you know that other people are using this connection sucessfully for remote desktop, I would not assume that it's a problem with your tablet.
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I think I did not do any port forwarding for my router, as it wasn't necessary.I don't why, and my BitComet is getting 2 green lights and able to hook up to remote connection. Previously, I need to setup port forwarding for my previous router.
I didn't know remote desktop is so vulnerable! In that case, I'll try to look up on VPN setup, before coming back here to ask question again.
Thanks.
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Or it's your router blocking remote desktop connections. Have you enabled port forwarding on your router?
On a side note, do you really want remote desktop open to the whole world? You should look into a VPN setup...
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Sounds like your pc is in the dmz.
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