I have a few questions, and I'm sure the answers are here somewhere but filtering through these forums is rather daunting, so I hope you'll suffer a fw questions.
After installing WM6, there's no t9 input language. So there are seperate cabs for each language, but it seems that if I install 2 cabs, it overwrites the first language and I'm left with only one (the last) language installed.
How do I get to languages for input, like English and Spanish?
Just to clarify, I'm using andot's perfect wm6 ROM.
If I copy my contacts off my SIM, is this data going to be stored on my SD or in the memory?
Similar question for documents, temp files and ringtones. How do I keep all of this off the ROM/RAM?
Hardware Questions:
I found one copy of the i-mate PDF manual for this device, which turned out to be exactly like the paper copy I already had for Qtek.
Oddly, there's no picture of the device itself with arrows pointing at all the buttons, bells and whistles.
The jack on the bottom of the phone, is that 2.5mm? Is it just for hands free, or can it use a stereo headset for music?
The tiny hole right by that... is that for a hard reset?
WTF is the little slot-like gap in the top of the phone between the power button and the windows logo?
What do you call the internet and media player control buttons and is there an app to reasign them?
There are 3 led light holes on the face, what do they signal?
Install a T9 wich you can find in the extras.zip in phils BETA-thread. That will enable input.
The jack on the bottom is 2,5mm. You can buy 2,5 ->3,5mm adapter, or a headset with 2,5mm. Yes stereo hp is supported.
Tiny hole next to that is prolly a mic.
Slot-like? I'm not sure, but can imagine it's for use in a car. There is a button-fix in the before-mentioned extras.zip.
The green LED blinks to show that you have coverage. Blue LED for bluetooth, and the third blinks when wifi is activated. When charging your phone, one LED turns red.
Exitao said:
I have a few questions, and I'm sure the answers are here somewhere but filtering through these forums is rather daunting, so I hope you'll suffer a fw questions.
After installing WM6, there's no t9 input language. So there are seperate cabs for each language, but it seems that if I install 2 cabs, it overwrites the first language and I'm left with only one (the last) language installed.
How do I get to languages for input, like English and Spanish?
Just to clarify, I'm using andot's perfect wm6 ROM.
If I copy my contacts off my SIM, is this data going to be stored on my SD or in the memory?
Similar question for documents, temp files and ringtones. How do I keep all of this off the ROM/RAM?
Hardware Questions:
I found one copy of the i-mate PDF manual for this device, which turned out to be exactly like the paper copy I already had for Qtek.
Oddly, there's no picture of the device itself with arrows pointing at all the buttons, bells and whistles.
The jack on the bottom of the phone, is that 2.5mm? Is it just for hands free, or can it use a stereo headset for music?
The tiny hole right by that... is that for a hard reset?
WTF is the little slot-like gap in the top of the phone between the power button and the windows logo?
What do you call the internet and media player control buttons and is there an app to reasign them?
There are 3 led light holes on the face, what do they signal?
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2.5mm, any other 2.5mm headphone can be used
There isnt any hard reset button for that phone, to hard reset, you either use the software or press the two soft key and on the phone
The 3 LED light holes? I think you mean the top there
There are 5 holes, the left most one is for power status, yellow for normal, orange for charging, red for low power, the right most hole is for connectivity, yellow for WiFi, blue for BT, the 3 in the middle is simply the earpiece, while the hole above is the loudspeaker
Thanks for the replies guys! Just a few clarification questions and a bit of repeating things back to ensure I have it correct.
In regards to the language thing:
I did find the Extras.zip and did use the "English xT9.cab", but this only gives me one language input option when I hold down the * key. If I install a Spanish T9 after the English T9, I only get the Spanish language option when inputting text. I want them both... Is there any place to get the full western language(s) WM5 T9 cab?
Audio Jack:
It's good to hear that the jack is stereo. So I could get a set of stereo headphones/handsfree combo for music. Now I just have to wait for someone to hack support for bigger than 2gb of miniSD (I know there are some that still work, but the newer ones are faster...)
So, onto the lights:
To be clear, I'm not talking about the LCD display, just the lights in the hardware fascia.
Top Left
blinks green for GSM service
solid amber when connected to USB charger/PC
Top Right
blinks green for WiFi
blinks green for WiFi
Centre Bottom (under the "0+" key)
I've seen it lit when the keypad was lit for bootloader. I don't know when else it lights up
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The T-Mobile quickstart guide says that middle bottom one is the mic, which makes no sense as mine is filled with that plastic like the other LED lights. More likely the mic is the hole between the headphone jack and the pound (#) key .
The slot-like opening on the top back of the phone is the ringer/loud-speaker.
Along the narrow outer side of the phone, going clock-wise, we have 3 buttons:
volume toggle
comm manager
power/quicklist key
camera button
So the left and right-most buttons on the Start/Home row of buttons under the LCD are the "soft keys."
On the face above the standard numeric keypad and beneath the LCD, from top to bottom:
Start, Home, Back, Contacts/Menu/Context
Internet, Rewind, FF and Play/Pause
Extended press of Start key does nothing.
Extended press of Home starts Celetask (what would it start if no Celetask, and how would I configure it?)
Extended press of Back key does nothing.
Extended press of Contacts key does nothing.
Extended press of ie and windows media buttons do nothing, when not playing media, all 3 media buttons do nothing except start windows media player (and because these buttons are bigger than the more useful row above, windows media player starts a lot).
Is there more configurability for changing purpose of Media buttons when at Home screen or there is no Media context?
Is there any more configurability for adding extra extended key-press function for home/start row keys?
The "button fix" cab is to do what? Just make the buttons work properly with WM6, or to allow reassignment?
There's no way to disable all function (i.e. backlighting) of thumbstick while phone is locked?
I guess this is more of a WM6 question, but this type of smart phone doesn't use the Today screen with tabs?
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I'm actually a little surprised that there's no diagramming anywhere of button functions and that most binaries released don't have NFO files or that there's no list of what these standard files everybody downloads do. There's a couple nice lists of files to download, with some reference links, but a lack of information about their purposes.
That's why I was hoping that somewhere there was a Quick Start guide for the phone. Actually, I just found T-Mobile's here (clicky)
What's really stupid is that every other provider/reseller than T-Mobile of this handset makes you sign up for a "club" to access these PDFs and if your IMEI or serial number isn't in their database, you can't join the club.
Again guys, thanks for the info and I look forward to being able to contribute in the future.
I think they have to make you sign up for a club because it contains the ROM upgrade and the ROM are licensed, hence they just can't publish it publicly. Same reason why the ROM archive in xda-devs was told to be taken down months back ( but we dont give a damn )
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I think they have to make you sign up for a club because it contains the ROM upgrade and the ROM are licensed, hence they just can't publish it publicly. Same reason why the ROM archive in xda-devs was told to be taken down months back ( but we dont give a damn )
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I applaud that. I really hope they can't do anything against you.
I still have a few hanging questions.
I read somewhere about the Bluetooth stereo needing a registry hack. Does the hardware audiohone jack also require a hack? Is it proper stereo or joint stereo?
I'm still interested in changing functions of media buttons and adding extended keypress function to otther buttons like Celetask uses with the Home key.
Exitao said:
Centre Bottom (under the "0+" key)
I've seen it lit when the keypad was lit for bootloader. I don't know when else it lights up
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The T-Mobile quickstart guide says that middle bottom one is the mic, which makes no sense as mine is filled with that plastic like the other LED lights. More likely the mic is the hole between the headphone jack and the pound (#) key .
The slot-like opening on the top back of the phone is the ringer/loud-speaker.
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that's the light sensor.
and about the xt9 thing i think in smartphone general forum it's a sticky topic about this. now i write from mobile and don't have the mood to 'research' :-D
DSF said:
that's the light sensor.
and about the xt9 thing i think in smartphone general forum it's a sticky topic about this. now i write from mobile and don't have the mood to 'research' :-D
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The files there are for Vox and Xcalibur (sp?), do they work for Tornado too?
I found my answer to the English Spanish question here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271641&highlight=t9+spanish+english
* Extract T9SpanishLdb.dll and T9ImeRes.Dll040a.mui from t9_tornado.rar to \Windows
* [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\T9 Input Method\LDBs], add string value '040a' with data 'T9SpanishLdb.dll'
* [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\T9 Input Method\MUI\Languages], add '040a' to the list of 'Available', so the data will be '0409,040a' (or whatever your phone uses.. just add the one for the language you're installing)
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Any updates on re-mapping the media buttons? I would love to re-assign these keys to Messaging and other apps I use frequently.
On my Samsung Blackjack, there is actually a function in the Windows Mobile Settings called "Buttons", which allows me to reassign the buttons to pretty much anything. Does anyone know if there is a small app or something that could do this on my SDA (I have upgraded it to WM6 using the posted sticky instructions - thanks you guys, awesome work!)
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Any updates on re-mapping the media buttons? I would love to re-assign these keys to Messaging and other apps I use frequently.
On my Samsung Blackjack, there is actually a function in the Windows Mobile Settings called "Buttons", which allows me to reassign the buttons to pretty much anything. Does anyone know if there is a small app or something that could do this on my SDA (I have upgraded it to WM6 using the posted sticky instructions - thanks you guys, awesome work!)
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I don't know anything yet and no one has answered here.
The buttons are pretty stoopid. I didn't buy this phone for mulitmedia. I bought it for productivity apps. And these media buttons are so big that it's hard to miss them when using softkeys.
So until someone gives an answer, I guess we have to find our own answers and there's a bit of a learning curve for me.
I think I found it - check out post #4 in this HowardForums thread:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=865189
These exact instructions worked for me on my SDA running WM6 Perfect English Edition. I changed the last button to go to Messaging (tmail.exe).
Exitao said:
I found my answer to the English Spanish question here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271641&highlight=t9+spanish+english
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This wasn't the full answer to my question.
There's also a reg key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\T9 Input Method\Settings] Options
Changing the d-word value to 1033 (00000409 should work too) from 00003317 is what gave me my language settings back.
It took a bit of looking to find out what 00003317 was. 3317 is a ghost script name for a Chinese simplified font, as far as I can tell.
The one thing you'll notice as you look at that string is that key shares that string with a another dword entry, "chinese pinyin."
As I don't read or speak putonghua, or any hua, I thought it might be nice to delete this key. But it just keeps turning up over nad over, like a bad penny.
there's another string elsewhere:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH] Which could probably be safely removed from the ROM.
I wonder if we collected a list of all useless registry entries and had someone remove them from a future ROM, how much space could we save?
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I think I found it - check out post #4 in this HowardForums thread:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=865189
These exact instructions worked for me on my SDA running WM6 Perfect English Edition. I changed the last button to go to Messaging (tmail.exe).
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Yes, you did find it. Yay!
Short_AP1
Short_AP2
Short_AP3
Short_AP4
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The files are in the Windows directory and they're just shortcuts. Easy to edit.
Just make sure that you use the button fix if your upgrade mod requires it, otherwise those shortcuts don't exist.
We'll also have to find out if it interferes with media player when it's the active app/window.
Hy again,
I managed to get myself onto my laptop these days to clear some of my issues with raphael.
Again, I come from eten world, M700 specifically.
In that device, with stock rom, if you drag the vertical scroll bar in programs, the screen and icons gets redrawed much quicker than on my raphael.
On raphael, if I drag down the vertical scroll bar, it even gets lost sometimes!! (and I am using the increased sensitivity touchpad regfix found in this forum). No mention about the speed the icons get redrawed! this is like ..dunnow..murdering some of it's possibilities and killing our pleasure of using the phone when not in touchflo3D. It's verry sluggish.
Also, there are sometimes when I press with stylus in the corners and the hit is not recognized
Can anyone suggest anything to make it faster in this way?
Hi
I've been using HD2's Default Keyboard and Compact Keyboard and find it annoying with it's accuracy problem, but I have a idea that make it more accurate but a little of typing speed sacrefice
my idea is dynamic button domain, it means that when a letter on the soft keyboard is pressed, it's press domain expands so if the finger ( thumb most of the times ) moves a little to other sides, the letter does not change by that little move that is natural.
for example, when you want to press letter "D", you press it but because you pressed it by thumb, the thumb by a little move can go on to S, F, E, R or X that make the mistake. but with this idea, when "D" is pressed, it's activate domain area of "D" expands and by a little move of the thumb, no problem will be made.
I want to share this idea for if a programmer for win mo read it and found it interesting, code it and make a keyboard that is beautiful like HTC's and functional.
thanks
PS: I used BsB Tweak 1.6 for reducing screen sens and increased the tap time, but it's not still good
+1
ive had the same prob. it happens a lot when i play around with my dog. i wonder if the static causes some prob or anything. i dont know.
Just "type" and do not look at the keyboard, which works very fine Just hit it for a short moment and you shouldn't suffer from that problem
Aloha all, Having trouble knowing how to ask this...bear with me.
I am having problems with the menus that are triggered by the 'hover' action of a mouse. Using the surface pro or even my lumia 920 I am frequently unable to operate many menus on sites.
officefootballpools.com tournamentpools.com and a host of other sites have the same type menus.
Normal action would be with a mouse and when you hover it drops down a menu that you click your selection. Its isn't a normal drop down but a .li. html type for the menu.
Im sure this has been discussed but I was looking for some vocabulary so I can search the right threads.
You cant interact with hover images via capacitative touch. The browser has no way to tell if you want to click or just show the drop down, it assumes click. Some sites (with limited success) I have managed to press and hold on a link to show its drop down, then if you ignore the usual right click popup then you can sometimes hit the correct icon, this is on a lumia 710.
Otherwise if you have a device with an active stylus (the surface pro for example) you can get rollover easily. If you notice when you hold the pen a tiny bit off of the screen you get a little dot appearing on the screen where the pen is pointing without any physical contact. This dot can trigger rollover events as in this case windows knows that you are not touching the screen, touch becomes a click, hovering the pen over the screen becomes mouse movement which is enough to trigger rollover.
Thank you for your reply. I understand and assumed the same. I have been working with an x61t for a few years so the jump to capacitive has thrown me a bit.
Okay, so what are web developers doing instead of this type of drop down? I recently read an article that says a lot of developers are moving to the new msn.com type format with nav bars on left or right with no hover...
Anyway thanks again. The volume of sites with this issue is pretty large. Yahoo.com/fantasy chokes a donkey, etc.
Side question, does Win8 have the on screen mouse that I used to have on my Lenovo? Or is that a Lenovo product probably?
Alot of web developers are doing nothing at all. In some cases clicking the link that causes the dropdown redirects to a page listing the other links in that dropdown, that's always handy. Usually most devs create mobile versions of sites which are normally touch friendly. I have seen 1 or 2 sites create iPhone versions before, these worked nicely on android so I would assume they are fine on the lumia and maybe the surface.
I haven't ever seen an on screen mouse before but if there is not one in windows 8 then there may be a 3rd party one somewhere. I am on my phone right now, otherwise I would have looked myself.
One advantage of using "Mobile" websites is that they should be designed with the limitation of touchscreens - specifically, the inability to track hover - in mind. That may help you out.
Alternatively, the Surface Pro uses an active Wacom digitizer (as well as a touchscreen) that can sense the pen at a distance. You can use the stylus pretty much perfectly as a mouse, with hover and right-click and everything.