What's with TF2D/manilla 2d and landscape? - General Questions and Answers

Hey guys, i'm currently using TF2D on my Tilt and i have the landscape settings installed, made by btprice.
I've noticed that it is about 60% functional. However the messages, contacts, music, and email tabs all display nothing.
Pictures,home, and settings all display their tab but are not scaled and positioned for landscape mode.
Weather and programs tabs are completely functional. I haven't tried location though.
Now, i was thinking of fixing the images for landscape mode. but upon reading the forums a little bit more, i saw the diamond gold blend theme. the author stated that manilla2d will never be fully landscape. does anyone have an answer as to why this is?
I would really love to get TF2D in landscape, and i'm willing to help with the graphics. mbarvian's alternative(even though he did a great job) is just too slow for me.
thanks!

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To TouchFLO 3D or not to TouchFLO 3D ?

After playing around with my HTC Touch Pro for 3 weeks I am not quite sure I like that TouchFLO 3D. Besides that it is graphically beautifully designed, it lacks real world functionality. Such functionality for example that the iphone has.
Tabs order cannot be changed.
Tabs which I don't need cannot be removed.
The Music tab isn't intuitive and useful
The Album isn't that useful, just better to open the Album app itself
Default pro for Calender/Contacts are akward to change with 3rd prg tweaks
The People (Contacts) flipping around favorite contacts isn't usefull besides being visually appealing. Displaying small thumbnails of multiple contacts is more effective.
The Today screen not very useful.
It's not that it's all bad, it's just that I am thinking if there may be something better than that?
mobiler said:
After playing around with my HTC Touch Pro for 3 weeks I am not quite sure I like that TouchFLO 3D. Besides that it is graphically beautifully designed, it lacks real world functionality. Such functionality for example that the iphone has.
Tabs order cannot be changed.
Tabs which I don't need cannot be removed.
The Music tab isn't intuitive and useful
The Album isn't that useful, just better to open the Album app itself
Default pro for Calender/Contacts are akward to change with 3rd prg tweaks
The People (Contacts) flipping around favorite contacts isn't usefull besides being visually appealing. Displaying small thumbnails of multiple contacts is more effective.
The Today screen not very useful.
It's not that it's all bad, it's just that I am thinking if there may be something better than that?
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have you not tried the customizer?? you can remove tabs and order them
mobiler said:
After playing around with my HTC Touch Pro for 3 weeks I am not quite sure I like that TouchFLO 3D. Besides that it is graphically beautifully designed, it lacks real world functionality. Such functionality for example that the iphone has.
Tabs order cannot be changed.
Tabs which I don't need cannot be removed.
The Music tab isn't intuitive and useful
The Album isn't that useful, just better to open the Album app itself
Default pro for Calender/Contacts are akward to change with 3rd prg tweaks
The People (Contacts) flipping around favorite contacts isn't usefull besides being visually appealing. Displaying small thumbnails of multiple contacts is more effective.
The Today screen not very useful.
It's not that it's all bad, it's just that I am thinking if there may be something better than that?
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I don't know where you have been looking?
TouchPro is almost the same as the Diamond,
and over at the Diamond forum we are changing tabs, removing tabs, some people are developing new tabs...
Changing grafix, colour, fonts ...
I know there are some downsides with TF3D
like the calendar sucks, the Contacts is almost only for show...
In the beginning I didn't like the Music player... but now I use it anyway... It does pretty much what I need..
what does the IP(****)hone do/have that the Diamond/TouchPro doesn't do/have??
I'm not saying that you must have TF3D if u have a Diamond/TouchPro... not at all...
All people are different and have different taste or use the phone different...
Take a look in the Development and Hacking section... or anywhere else in this forum and u will see that there are allot of alternatives..
sorry if I just babbled on here... but If u think u can't modify/customize your TouchPro... you're wrong!
Check out the Diamond Forum
mobiler said:
Such functionality for example that the iphone has.
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Come on, chief. a "smart" phone that doesn't have the most basic copy-paste feature shouldn't be trusted.
It's like eating in a restaurant where the chef cannot even make boiled eggs.
I've been using TF3d for a while now and I think it's great! much better than the iPhone interface which you can try out with iFonz.
TF3D rulez.
I worry that if I don't use the ICI, the lack of buttons will become more evident.
So what you're saying is that Touchflo 3D is just for show, but the iPhone's interface is not? I recommend you look around in the Diamond forums for some hacks, tweaks, etc. to make Touchflo 3D more useful to you (removing, reordering tabs) and if that doesn't do it, there are tons of other apps out there that will do what you want. You just have to look for them.
esquire0399 said:
So what you're saying is that Touchflo 3D is just for show, but the iPhone's interface is not? I recommend you look around in the Diamond forums for some hacks, tweaks, etc. to make Touchflo 3D more useful to you (removing, reordering tabs) and if that doesn't do it, there are tons of other apps out there that will do what you want. You just have to look for them.
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I've never messed around with an iPhone, though a lot of friends have them. I'm not interested in a smartphone, I need copy/paste, edit Word/Excel docs, etc. As someone who's had computers since 1982, I've seen that GUI's and ICI's slow down existing hardware, and it's then some time before the hardware catches up. Early Windows almost swamped an otherwise fast DOS computer, for instance. Even though this CPU is faster than the Mogul, it's no faster than the old Samsung i730, which I also had.
The TF3D is nice but certainly lacks functionality...I use SBP plus and mobile shell on my TP and it´s great...howver I miss the weather tab of the TF3D with its raindrops......
asolano895 said:
The TF3D is nice but certainly lacks functionality...I use SBP plus and mobile shell on my TP and it´s great...howver I miss the weather tab of the TF3D with its raindrops......
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+1
The animation with the raindrops is cool but the the whole TF3D suck...
asolano895 said:
The TF3D is nice but certainly lacks functionality...howver I miss the weather tab of the TF3D with its raindrops......
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+1. TF3D got me really excited about Xperia for couple of days. But later I had to go back to SE panel which is very similar to Today screen with weather, calendar, RSS, etc as it's more functional for my needs. spbPanel Mobile shell is much more functional than TF3D.
The best combination I have found is using SPB Pocket Plus and SPB Mobile Shell. Together they make a very powerful (if not beautiful) interface. I can access everything within two screen taps. When I say everything I mean, weather, ALL my programmes, diary, contacts, settings, phone book and so on. It is so much quicker to get to things than anything else I have used.
These two programmes are very easy to customise and so for me TF3D is in the bin. That's just me though.

Looking for a rom..... With landscape support

In a bit of a n00b when it comes to these sweet cooked roms. (my first decent phone in a while)
I currently have the Hyperdragon III rom on my Tilt now, And I LOVE it!! Great work man!
I have spent many a nights at work (network engineer) customizing it the way i like it.
But I am looking to find one that supports landscape as well, as that one gets wonky when in landscape mode.
Whats the best one for my tilt?
Thanks guys in advance.
What do you mean supports landscape? All devices support landscape.
Please, either post your request in that thread or go through the ROMs offered here and choose the one best to your likings.
I think he means which kaiser rom with Manilla 2D, that supports landscape.
Anyway, to answer your question, Solace 1.5 by Mbarvian has a landscape menu, but it takes a few seconds to kick in, and can take even longer when you close the keyboard because it has to re-launch TouchFlo.
Your other option is to edit your XML file(s) to better compensate for landscape. There are a few threads on how to do this. Since Manilla 2D does not support landscape at all, xml editing can't resolve every issue, its more of a workaround at best.

Lanscape Vs Potrait

Hi,
I have an idea, is it possible to get 2 diffrent setting for our PPC, this idea come from we can have 2 diffrent wallpaper by using 3rd party apps. 1 on potrait and other in landscape.
And i wonder can we do the same with applications?? not just wallpaper??may be we can have Manilla 3D on potrait and Manila 2D in landscape??for example.
I know it's sound pintless but if we can have apps that control this, maybe we can later having 2 diff OS in 1 PPC , maybe WM7 OS on Landscape and Iphone OS on portait.
HAhaha... I hope some1 can have a developer inspiration breaktrough from my stupid and impossible idea hahhaa....
Good Day.....
sounds interesting...I'm sure a developer would have to modify the concept a little, but overall, something I'd like to see.
Bump! this would be great for those touchflo 3d/2d people who have landscape phones. A big complaint with touchflo is its lack of today screen plugin availability. Since touchflo isn't landscape, wouldnt it be great to be able to slide your keboard out so it goes into landscape and see your regular today screen?!?!?

Leo Manila 2.5 => Landscape : test mod working !

I am currently testing the attached cab that enables Manila 2.5 to work in Landscape. It is not perfect but it works.
The bugs are as follows:
Music and photos tabs landscape are not proper
slow down the speed of manila while sliding to Home tab (from others tab)
What is working?
Home page in Landscape seems ok
Message in Landscape is perfect
Email tab seems ok
Stock seems perfect
Weather tab in landscape works
Settings tab in landscape works
What could be improved?
Internet tab could be improved
Calendar tab could be improved
Twitter tab could be improved
Footprint tab could be improved
How to test:
1- install morscipt
2- install attached cab
3- add manila in whitelist for rotation
Going forward: I don't believe HTC will ever release Leo rom Landscape capable so to enable Landscape we have a good start here for our Leo.
As of now I will hardreset to start from stock rom, since I don't find this mod yet usable. A workable mod with Home page, Message, Email, Weather in landscape would be perfect to me. Don't really care about others tab in Lanscape - since photos and music tabs are already capable.
Credit to my friend Rotastrain and to Agent_47
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588476&page=18
For those who have tested feedbacks are welcome.
sorry edit it works
rotastrain said:
sorry edit it works
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Hi Rota,
Yep it works. I have tested both yours and Agent_47 one.
The results are pretty similar. Few differences are on people and internet tabs - as far as i remember.
There is a link to the Rhodium thread on my first post
Will follow the progress on your thread.
Thank you Rota !
What happens if you go to landscape and then go to music or pictures tab?
maati said:
What happens if you go to landscape and then go to music or pictures tab?
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Look @ Rhodium thread. The link is on the first post.
Steve0007 said:
I am currently testing the attached cab that enables Manila 2.5 to work in Landscape. It is not perfect but it works.
The bugs are as follows:
Music and photos tabs landscape are not proper
slow down the speed of manila while sliding to Home tab (from others tab)
What is working?
Home page in Landscape seems ok
Message in Landscape is perfect
Email tab seems ok
Stock seems perfect
Weather tab in landscape works
Settings tab in landscape works
What could be improved?
Internet tab could be improved
Calendar tab could be improved
Twitter tab could be improved
Footprint tab could be improved
How to test:
1- install morscipt
2- install attached cab
3- add manila in whitelist for rotation
Going forward: I don't believe HTC will ever release Leo rom Landscape capable so to enable Landscape we have a good start here for our Leo.
As of now I will hardreset to start from stock rom, since I don't find this mod yet usable. A workable mod with Home page, Message, Email, Weather in landscape would be perfect to me. Don't really care about others tab in Lanscape - since photos and music tabs are already capable.
Credit to my friend Rotastrain and to Agent_47
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588476&page=18
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Hi, what do you mean add manila in the whitelist for rotation (sorry, I own the HD2 from less than a week). I use changescreen for rotation...
according to itje in x1 forum, there is a new htc rom official with manila 2.5 landscape, he relissed some screenshot of it also...
so landscapevsupport is coming...
smaberg said:
according to itje in x1 forum, there is a new htc rom official with manila 2.5 landscape, he relissed some screenshot of it also...
so landscapevsupport is coming...
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YES!! Let's hope it's made official and we can flash it with a GoldCard.
Why adding Music and Album ? They already have a landscape mode
Could you provide us with some screenshots please ?
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Could you provide us with some screenshots please ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606620
Anyone tested this landscape manila in Miri HD2 WM6.5.X (28205/23518) ROM :: V 1.2?
yes its works
works with miri roms, just dont understand why the rotaion is added to picture and music pages too. they have rotaion and now they are rotating 2 times!!
Diamond 2
Steve0007, I tested your cab file with my TD2 and it works well initially. WM6.5 has to fully boot and loaded until manilla launched. Work with all tabs, manilla and most apps.
However, it didn't work after I run XTask, XHook taskman. Any idea what is going on? Could it be due to XHook running in taskbar? Even web browser don't rotate to landscape anymore. Uninstall and reinstall don't make any difference too.
Landscape Trouble with Opera 10
Hi folks!
First of all I want to admit, I'm new to the forum and as well I'm not really into programming stuff. But maybe here's some useful information for you: I am currently using Opera 10.00 on my HD2. Everytime when Opera is working in landscape mode and the screen turns off (either due to long idle time or because of turning it off manually) and re-activating the device, Sense's lockscreen appears in landscape mode. After logging into the home screen, everything is quite normal again. Also I tried pushing the Homebutton while running opera in landscape mode -> kind of the same effect: home screen appears in landscape, too. There's just the problem, that the device is no longer responding until I stop the Opera process in the Task Manager. After all I guess there's something like a rudimental option for landscape mode included with Sense in stock.
Hope this was helpful for you.
Greetings from Bavaria!
eichkater

HD2 Rotation: Gyrator or HTCSensorConfig?

Curious to see what you guys think about the best way to manage rotation on the HD2. Looks like Gyrator has the smaller footprint of the two I list. Wondering how you guys manage rotation on screens that are not natively supported like the Today screen, and so on.
Bump. Anyone?
By far the best solution is imo changeScreen! Works similar as Gyrator but it is more light weighted and it is also very reliable.
de Wolfe said:
By far the best solution is imo changeScreen! Works similar as Gyrator but it is more light weighted and it is also very reliable.
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Interesting. Didn't work for me, but Gyrator is spot on. Guess I'll stick with that. Thanks for the suggestion, though!
Have you set up your changeScreen-configuration? E.g. the Manila home screen is by default on the exception list because it does not work with ANY program to rotate Manila 2.5 correctly (in later Manila versions the rotation support comes natively). But just try it e.g. within the startmenu or within any filemanager - everything works brilliantly because lots programs support rotation natively - HTC just didn't implement a proper use of the g-sensor... don't ask me why...
Ok, just tried it again and it's working with pretty much everything I want it to rotate, but it seems that eWallet doesn't play nice with either ChangeScreen or Gyrator.
One thing I noticed is that Gyrator seems to be faster in responding to changes. Not a deal-breaker, but just wondering why.
Bump this up to the top. Did either ChangeScreen or Gyrator allow for 180* rotation in Portrait?
I'd love to be able to the HD2 in a cup holder while driving and have the charging port facing up.

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