After playing around with my HTC Touch Pro for 3 weeks I am not quite sure I like that TouchFLO 3D. Besides that it is graphically beautifully designed, it lacks real world functionality. Such functionality for example that the iphone has.
Tabs order cannot be changed.
Tabs which I don't need cannot be removed.
The Music tab isn't intuitive and useful
The Album isn't that useful, just better to open the Album app itself
Default pro for Calender/Contacts are akward to change with 3rd prg tweaks
The People (Contacts) flipping around favorite contacts isn't usefull besides being visually appealing. Displaying small thumbnails of multiple contacts is more effective.
The Today screen not very useful.
It's not that it's all bad, it's just that I am thinking if there may be something better than that?
mobiler said:
After playing around with my HTC Touch Pro for 3 weeks I am not quite sure I like that TouchFLO 3D. Besides that it is graphically beautifully designed, it lacks real world functionality. Such functionality for example that the iphone has.
Tabs order cannot be changed.
Tabs which I don't need cannot be removed.
The Music tab isn't intuitive and useful
The Album isn't that useful, just better to open the Album app itself
Default pro for Calender/Contacts are akward to change with 3rd prg tweaks
The People (Contacts) flipping around favorite contacts isn't usefull besides being visually appealing. Displaying small thumbnails of multiple contacts is more effective.
The Today screen not very useful.
It's not that it's all bad, it's just that I am thinking if there may be something better than that?
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have you not tried the customizer?? you can remove tabs and order them
mobiler said:
After playing around with my HTC Touch Pro for 3 weeks I am not quite sure I like that TouchFLO 3D. Besides that it is graphically beautifully designed, it lacks real world functionality. Such functionality for example that the iphone has.
Tabs order cannot be changed.
Tabs which I don't need cannot be removed.
The Music tab isn't intuitive and useful
The Album isn't that useful, just better to open the Album app itself
Default pro for Calender/Contacts are akward to change with 3rd prg tweaks
The People (Contacts) flipping around favorite contacts isn't usefull besides being visually appealing. Displaying small thumbnails of multiple contacts is more effective.
The Today screen not very useful.
It's not that it's all bad, it's just that I am thinking if there may be something better than that?
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I don't know where you have been looking?
TouchPro is almost the same as the Diamond,
and over at the Diamond forum we are changing tabs, removing tabs, some people are developing new tabs...
Changing grafix, colour, fonts ...
I know there are some downsides with TF3D
like the calendar sucks, the Contacts is almost only for show...
In the beginning I didn't like the Music player... but now I use it anyway... It does pretty much what I need..
what does the IP(****)hone do/have that the Diamond/TouchPro doesn't do/have??
I'm not saying that you must have TF3D if u have a Diamond/TouchPro... not at all...
All people are different and have different taste or use the phone different...
Take a look in the Development and Hacking section... or anywhere else in this forum and u will see that there are allot of alternatives..
sorry if I just babbled on here... but If u think u can't modify/customize your TouchPro... you're wrong!
Check out the Diamond Forum
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Such functionality for example that the iphone has.
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Come on, chief. a "smart" phone that doesn't have the most basic copy-paste feature shouldn't be trusted.
It's like eating in a restaurant where the chef cannot even make boiled eggs.
I've been using TF3d for a while now and I think it's great! much better than the iPhone interface which you can try out with iFonz.
TF3D rulez.
I worry that if I don't use the ICI, the lack of buttons will become more evident.
So what you're saying is that Touchflo 3D is just for show, but the iPhone's interface is not? I recommend you look around in the Diamond forums for some hacks, tweaks, etc. to make Touchflo 3D more useful to you (removing, reordering tabs) and if that doesn't do it, there are tons of other apps out there that will do what you want. You just have to look for them.
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So what you're saying is that Touchflo 3D is just for show, but the iPhone's interface is not? I recommend you look around in the Diamond forums for some hacks, tweaks, etc. to make Touchflo 3D more useful to you (removing, reordering tabs) and if that doesn't do it, there are tons of other apps out there that will do what you want. You just have to look for them.
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I've never messed around with an iPhone, though a lot of friends have them. I'm not interested in a smartphone, I need copy/paste, edit Word/Excel docs, etc. As someone who's had computers since 1982, I've seen that GUI's and ICI's slow down existing hardware, and it's then some time before the hardware catches up. Early Windows almost swamped an otherwise fast DOS computer, for instance. Even though this CPU is faster than the Mogul, it's no faster than the old Samsung i730, which I also had.
The TF3D is nice but certainly lacks functionality...I use SBP plus and mobile shell on my TP and it´s great...howver I miss the weather tab of the TF3D with its raindrops......
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The TF3D is nice but certainly lacks functionality...I use SBP plus and mobile shell on my TP and it´s great...howver I miss the weather tab of the TF3D with its raindrops......
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The animation with the raindrops is cool but the the whole TF3D suck...
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The TF3D is nice but certainly lacks functionality...howver I miss the weather tab of the TF3D with its raindrops......
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+1. TF3D got me really excited about Xperia for couple of days. But later I had to go back to SE panel which is very similar to Today screen with weather, calendar, RSS, etc as it's more functional for my needs. spbPanel Mobile shell is much more functional than TF3D.
The best combination I have found is using SPB Pocket Plus and SPB Mobile Shell. Together they make a very powerful (if not beautiful) interface. I can access everything within two screen taps. When I say everything I mean, weather, ALL my programmes, diary, contacts, settings, phone book and so on. It is so much quicker to get to things than anything else I have used.
These two programmes are very easy to customise and so for me TF3D is in the bin. That's just me though.
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Just curious, because I like the close-to-generic Today screen setup I use on my Mogul, and perhaps the speed is optimized without TouchFlo. I wouldn't want to lose speed or practicality for an ICI
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Just curious, because I like the close-to-generic Today screen setup I use on my Mogul, and perhaps the speed is optimized without TouchFlo. I wouldn't want to lose speed or practicality for an ICI
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Yes, I was so accustomed to using Wisbar Advances with Pocket Breeze and Pocket Weather that I finally put them on my TP and turned of the TF3D -- debated quite awhile before doing so because I like the TF3D interface, just found my other configuration "more comfortable" to use. As for speed, it's hard to tell -- the non-TF configuration is quite snappy and I rarely have to wait, but my TF3D configuration was always snappy too -- didn't really feel it was slow and it would be hard to say that w/o it my TP is any faster.
yes, I turned touchflo off. I use spb mobile shell. just because it's so much better/easier to use!
If it's faster? I have no idea...but it run's veeeery smootly @ the moment!
I was wondering the same thing.... I loved the HTC Home program on my HTC Artemis and I can't get quite into TF3D...
Is there a VGA version of HOME??
Same here. Disabled Touch3DFlo and installed Spb Mobileshell.
But I don't see any changes whatever the speed.
I'm surprised to see so many people disabling touchflo, yet those without it are usually trying to get it. I loved TF3D and the standard windows mobile just seems so boring.
I disable TF3D few days before, and reuse it when I meet "Second Today".
Faster than enable? No, same, as same as slow.
It seems that without tf3d is a little bit faster, but not very much. TF3D was the most beautiful interface I saw in a wm device, and it resisted the longest but after the wow-factor depleted I still got back to the very functionally SPB Pocket Plus.
With these settings it runs almost as fast as my old eten m700 with tb_tb firmware. Some screen redrawing is visible from time to time and screen realigns after 3 seconds - very slow - to landscape mode when opening keyboard, but in rest is sure fast. Now for some 3D games utilizing the 3D card in the qualcom chipset?
I'm thinking of removing the TF3D but I don't know where to download the SPB mobile shell? I can only find one page but I actually have to pay for the software? Isn't it opensource / freeware?
No, it's not freeware.
I just want 'HTC HOME' back!
But what if you do want to install TF3D? Can you download it somewhere?
I would like to get rid of some items, that are installed during the installation of TF3D. Now it is not so hard to install without TF3D (and not having those nasty's) But i like TF3D, so i would like to install this afterwards.
the same, disabled touchlo, installed SPB mobile shell...also, the email and sms wien in touchlo was very uncomfortable for me, if i was looking for some email, i had to scroll through all of them
I really dont remember how fast it was, but withouth it its fast enough for me (i had htc P3300 before and that was slow as hell)
No ideas where to find TF3D? I think it's not illegal, because i already am running TF3D. It's just that i don't want the 'extra's'
Any tips for some simple and whats important fast today screen replacement with some launcher function? Something intuitive like touchflo, from which I use only home/sms/launcher and maybe calendar (but its not really important).
Tried Manila (eats resources like ...), SPB Mobile Shell, WAMD, Inesoft Phone - all of them seems to me bit overstuffed with unneeded stuff, effects and so on. Liked ThrottleLauncher, but its slow and choppy on my X1.
I would like to have something like iContacts style app for desktop. Fast, nice and simple gfx, finger friendly...is it just hard to find? Or there is no such app at all?
Have you tried the basic HTC Homeplug? It takes just half the screen and handles weather, calls, music, progs, people, comm. You can get rid of a couple of tabs if you want too. I ran schaps HTC Homeplug with the stock today screen calendar program for a looong time and it did everything I needed.
Yeah HTC Home plugin, one of the best today plugins. Tried Manila2d but I still switch back to HTC Homeplug..
Any tips how to instal Home Plug to X1 with WVGA?
Tried one from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344533 but gfx is messed up and all icons are so small...
I use Ultimate Launch and Love it - It would do everything you want - And supports plugins - Unfortnately I don't know how it would look or even run on your x1
Hi all,
i am using this freeware calender enhancement that i find VERY useful..
you can customize number of appt shown on today, the font size and header types.
Find it at my blog .. have a post on it there.
Let me know if you found it useful ok?
did anyone find it useful? will love to hear
I have looked at it, haven't installed it yet. Presently using TF3D on Touch HD. Really like the look of it and the way it puts almost the whole system on the today screen.
What I would really like is (now possible) an additional page on TF3D which can have normal today plugins and on that page SPB diary.
This calendar plus would quite easily replace SPB diary if it also supported tasks. That's my gripe with TF3D as well. Why only appointments... when tasks also need similar attention on today screen?
But still, looks very cool. Will try it once have more time on my hands
glad u found it ok
hope u will like such homescreens for VOX
more...screens...
few... more....
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sorry to ask but what is it?is it a software like the htc touch flo or a software that you install up the classic WinMo user interface?
yeah, its more like PointUI. but I dont knw where u got this. can you attach the cab homescreen here..thanks
It's PointUI Home 2 you can getit for free on their website, but it quite buggy nonetheless SP user are the not very considered ...months ago I was following the project but I ended with a big frustration. To me it's not worthwhile at all.
P.S:A question to the author of this topic...in this version have they added a button lo close the application? Cause when i tried this it was pretty impossible...because the way the had implemented the app, even closing the process in the Task Manager did NOT the trick LOL
yes that's PointUI 2 and that runs flawless on VOX, amazing superb excellent graphics and true QVGA effects. So far no other competitor. I have tested it in last 2 weeks and its smooth. So many choices on themes and applets, so many customization. I had lot of customization on it as per need and as and when needed. It just ends up with your imagination. It never disturbs you on your regular jobs of phone. No hangups no freezes.
Exit is not available by default but as i said u can add by customization as shown in screen shots.
At least i would not like to go back on ugly 6.1 and 6.5 themes.
BTW PointUI 2 is not free, you can try free version for demo. Don't try cracked version, i heard author has put some code which might swipe your data so beware!
Check the attached file for preview.
it is much more fun with this, for a change. It is great having the EXIT problem solved.
and this one is even better than 'vista UI'.
To me is not that usable as programs, but I REPEAT it was time ago and I did some beta testing for them.
It was very invasive and informations were presented in a less effective way that winMO does by default. For example sms preview, task preview, appointment preview, in WinMo you have them all in one sight...
BTW I don't know how it is improved right now.
To me is not that usable as programs, but I REPEAT it was time ago and I did some beta testing for them.
It was very invasive and informations were presented in a less effective way that winMO does by default. For example sms preview, task preview, appointment preview, in WinMo you have them all in one sight...
BTW I don't know how it is improved right now.
Okay guys & gals,
Just thought I'd start a topic about our Today Screen.
I love a good launcher program (which I believe is simply what a today screen is). It took me a while to get to like WM6.5, but I do now. The disadvantage is that I still have to press my Start Menu for other apps... and for 64MB Uni's the disadvantage is only too obvious.
I hope you don't mind me quoting, but this is what started me thinking...
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What I would like to do is set the programs screen ie the screen full of icons as the default when you start up the Universal. One less step and simpler for the end user.
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home screen plus is what yu need, i guess....
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Yeah, oh for a simple Today Screen. I'm with you there.
Why do we have one method of accessing our apps on the Today screen, and yet another from the Start menu. (And for me a third when I want to choose a game to play).
I suppose nobody has come up with something that everyone agrees on!
Hence we have such platforms as Android, maybe.
As phezthie says, HomeScreen PlusPlus is a cool app. However, if you can't find a theme that someone has made that you like, you must be willing to write a script. Personally I love this app, but spend too much time tweaking my scripts! Ouch
Another one is ThrottleLauncher. A lovely graphic approach, but a bit heavy/slow and a few bugs. Very easy to set up, though... but perhaps more of an interest with 128MB devices and maybe a little restricted.
Anyone got a great Today Screen or Launcher they think others would like?
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Hi Jonny
Interesting thread indeed
I used for a long time HTC Home large VGA by pj07 and I was very satified as I had all I needed on that home screen.
Now I´m using titanium but I´m agree with your comments above.
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Cheers,
I use Titanium too and its going pretty well for my needs till now.This his a good idea.
Hello thank you for starting this thread,as i am obsessed lately with this subject. I tried EVERYTHING that i could find,and so far,on my 64 MB uni,i can say only that i managed to find NOTHING in my taste.
Throttle launcher is awesome but no way it can work on my device,buggy and extremely slow,same as Pointui Home 2, with the POINTSENSE suite 2.0.0.6 looks awesome but useless on my device. For everyone with a 128 MB device i would recommend it,there are many many interesting skins/themes and applets on the Pointui website http://www.pointui.com/
Also,i am waiting for a new or fixed version of Touch Shell Pro ,which looks promising also,has some nice skins too, version now is 1.1.0.17,but has too many issues still,on my UNI at least.
http://www.touch-shell.com/
Also i tried FEWidgets Ultimate,again nice idea but too slow on my UNI.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544874
There is now also this Sense UI Theme for FEWidgets Ultimate.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-sense-ui-theme-for-fewidgets-ultimate.html
As for launchers,i tried plenty,most of them too slow ofc,the nicer ones
Easy Today Launcher is a nice today plugin,you can combine it with some others to make a nice today screen also :
http://www.loffactory.webs.com/
MyAction is a nice launcher you can pick up here versions 1.1 and new 2.0 :
http://www.8080.pl/
This one looks real nice but was way too slow on my 64 mb - Touchlaunch :
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-touchlaunch.html
And for last,the best thing i found to be part of my today screen,is a skin for marsware weather panel 2009 - here is the whole thing :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401781
When i get time i will put some more up,when i remember them,i really tried a lot of things out. And i really really wish that my UNI has 128 MB
I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
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Jonny
Thanks for starting this thread. I have also played with a number of the Today screen graphical setup programs, some are quite good. However, since upgrading to 6.5 I quite like the standard program screen that comes up when you select start.
My question is why do we need any of these today screen programs, when the icons and screen are already there. We really don't want to add any more complexity to the setup or anything else to use up precious memory.
I originally asked the question to see if there was just a way of bypassing the today screen altogether, so that the standard program screen came up by default.
Now thanks to you we have the collective minds thinking about it.
@gewin:
I actually got your idea. But couldn't find the function OS calls (@shell32.exe) when you hit on start menu.
Once we get then it is just the easy part....
I use SPB Pocket Plus, because it can handle other today plugins in different tabs. And it runs quickly on UNI64...
Thanks guys, this has been very informative. Especially to PalDragon for all the review... I'm going to give some of those a try. Cheers. What do others think?
MyAction - I found I didn't like. It looks ok if you use all the icons, otherwise you have half a screen full of blue +'s. I would prefer slide to screen, rather than use of a Prev/Next button. You also need to add all the apps yourself, it wasn't self-populating.
TouchLaunch - like. However only 1 item per line means a lot of scrolling, and the scrolling can be quite slow. Nice that you can make categories. Latest version here. Smooth (on my 128MB Uni)
EasyToday Launcher - @gewin, this is what you want! It's not self-populating, but I do like it. And as PalDragon pointed out, you can add other Today items with it, if you wish.
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I never looked back since getting SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, I think it's the best. In fact, once I got it, the ROM UI became irrelevant, I even have WM5 on one of my Unis in order to have the VC and not suffer much.
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i completely agree, its not free though but worth it...
Hi Jonny.. can you please attache some pics of your today screen if you haven't yet, I use HTC Home its got all i need even wheather, Messaging etc... But i wonder if its possible to add some applications to the wm6.5 on that cool up down slide. This made me stop using HTC Home but now i have some app's missing on my today.
my today screen is unintersting. I use WM6.5 'Ron Arad Orange' with CHome editor* for my apps (piccy1). I used to have weather plugin* but this seemed to make my GPS navigation freeze intermittently. I use QuickMenu* for my task switcher (piccy2) and iReflect icons* in my start menu (piccy3) with honeycomb start menu*. (Also, once used ATContacts widget*).
However I am still looking for a good 'app launcher' for games. I use fexploreext* set to 'Icon View' (see piccy4&5). Sadly fexploreext doesn't seem to work in WM6.5.1
I did once create a HomeScreen++ theme* for back when it was BatteryStatus, but haven't kept it up to date. It also had weather. The funny thing about weather widgets is that whenever I want to look at the forecast, I always want to update it ... so it seemed reasonable to stick with weather from an internet page! (perhaps because in UK weather is so changeable, I don't know!)
however, I am beginning to like SPB Mobile Shell (unsure how long the trial is for). What themes are people using? enigma1nz? phezthie?
FEWidgets and throttlelauncher seem similar, but a poor mans copy?
*if you want any of these files, just PM me.
spb mobile shell is really impressive and powerful (the latest is v3.5), ive been using ms v2 since tomal's 8.5. however, based from my experience, v3.5 is not advisable using tomal's wm6.5 roms (v9 & 10) due to slow response and occasional freeze. same with other wm6.5 cooked roms i tried, the reason why ram upgrade is imperative, at least for me, to enjoy the latest rom with latest spb.
off course, another solution i think is if our great uni rom chefs will always consider releasing vanilla of their great work...
UltimateLaunch
http://www.ultimatelaunch.de/index_en.html
Setup is a bit of a hassle (I've been messing around in Android, so a lot of Windows Mobile/Phone stuff seems more complex to customize), but if you're willing to put in the time, it's a rock solid-app and can customize to a T. It's also the least memory-hungry of what I've tried.
The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't accommodate rotation very well unless you count out pixels and just set it up so that in landscape it looks good even though the bottom of your screen is cut off.
I've tried Lakeridge (think Titanic, flashy, but *will* crash), ThrottleLauncher, Win6.5, SPB, SBSH. I keep coming back to this.
I used most of the GI app there and i liked WAD2. and i used with my custom theme when i was in wm 6.1, now with 6.5 due to memory issue i can not run it. so i'm using titanium with some customization.... see pic's below...
Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Hey Rajiv
Jane is so beautiful!!
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Yes, very nice Jane, mate
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Thanx a lot Guyz...
i envy you mate
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i envy you mate
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He he
common guys no comment on titanium ....