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Hey,
I am personally just bursting with excitement over the possibility of getting WM6 on my tornado, even though (like most folks) I doubt that I have any ability to contribute technically to the effort. So, just to get my ideas out, without cluttering the "Official WM6 thread", I started this one. This is so people who really know what they are doing don't have to screw with the clutter, unless they want to.
So, my first hope for the new ROM--I doubt that there could have been much improvement to crappy Windows Media Player, so my suggestion is that that be removed, and replaced with TCPMP.
Why not customize instalation
Sorry about my english, but why not a customize instalation ?
Like WINDOWS, you can choose in advance what aplication you want, or similar thing, like, they can generate a lot of roms with english an other language in order to save space. I will only install the rom with english and spanish.
Also, I prefer that Pocket Office will be included in the rom that you are cocking.
Thanks
Ok, plan at the moment... English ONLY ROM with various language packs (including t9) that will be available as CABs for separate installation to save precious storage. The 'vanilla' ROM (no t9, no task manager, no office, no camera) only has around 19mb of storage to play with :S
Office will be available as a CAB, again to save space. WMP has been improved with support for the creating and saving of playlists on the device. TCPMP MAY be embedded depending on how many people prefer it over WMP.
As for other stuff, I'm open to ideas, it's really up to YOU how you want this ROM to work and what's in it (within reason of course )
BTW good idea to start a new thread for requests in the ROM (useful for saving clutter ) I'll link to this in my original post in 'The Official WM6 Thread'
Phil
TCMP only is a BAD IDEA!
Error post... disregard. Next post covers everything I wanted to say.
TCMP only is a BAD IDEA!
I love TCMP, but it can't replace WMP.
Yeah, TCMP is a better player for just about everything, but there are certain things that I still need to use WMP for.
For example, streaming media is a nightmare for me in TCMP because of certain proxy servers I use. WMP shares IE's proxy settings, so if IE can see the internet, WMP can, whereas TCMP can't.
Also, I've run across some weird files (high bitrate aac's) that froze TCMP, but WMP skips over the corrupted portion and keeps playing.
Yes, TCMP is great, but not at the cost of WMP. Please, don't take it out.
Personally, just install TCMP on a storage card, and everyone should be fine!
While we're on it...
You say that you're going to make office a .cab optional installation.
Interesting... Hey, this is a long shot, but is there any way we could try that with a WM5 device? I'm really just looking for office mobile, so if there was a way to extract that and make it work on wm5, that would be AMAZING.
I know, there's probably some propietary WM6-only stuff that would prevent it from working, but thought I would ask.
Ι think that there is no one here prefers WMP over TCPMP (or Core Player) but there is no reason include it in the rom. As you said the storage memory in Tornado is valuable and I like like your idea to give us language packs in seperate cab files. I only need English and Greek pack.
Also Office and Adobe LE have already ported from rom and work fine in storage card, so no need to be in rom.
keep on good work, can't wait!!
i believe that the applications that are to be put in the rom are the standard ones... cause like everyone has said memory is so valuable... and besides you can install tcmp to it anytime you want but you cant install wmp if you take it out... to say replace wmp with tcmp in my opinon is selfish...
oh and i would like to recommend to map the media buttons (Short_AP1-4.lnk's i think) like those on the imate sp5m,qtek8300 and t-mobile sda as default... most roms even the custom iphone dropped this... cause its a nice feature of the tornadoes... and if those arent the "would be" users preference its easy to remap it with something else but remapping it to a rom that dosent support it (like the c500 rom) is really hard... just my 2 cents...
I suppose there is a use for WMP...I do use it to play drm-protected (license only) wma files. but maybe coreplayer can get licenses? I suppose if we have to have wmp, tcpmp will stay on the storage card. no complaints.
I do hope that a2dp support exists in the new rom. That is something I can't live without.
With regards to the media player buttons...that would of course be different between 8310/sp5 and 8300/sp5m. It is easy enough to customise those in existing wm5 roms, but I wonder what version of tornado this rom is coming from?
Sorry for my poor english. Is it real to do that new rom will be unlocked passing over in silence? That will be handy to use. My opinion that there is no reason to include in rom those application that can be installable by the separete cab files. Every one can decide what to install by itself. I think there is no need to include in rom WML or pocket MSN, original file manager and task manager. Every one can decide what to use. Thanks.
good point lovetz... making them installable cabs would save alot of memory... and yes the file explorer from the rom does suck ends! maybe our chefs could do that...
and yes i hope they put in a2dp support!!! good bye wires!!!
I personally prefer a clean ROM with stable Radio version. Just put in all the default softwares that a typical WM6 device will have to make it 'real' and pure WM6. Then from there, users can choose what they want to install. Perhaps put some options so that softwares like File Explorer, WMP can be uninstalled from the Remove Programs part
Few updates for you
A2DP - built into the ROM already
Office for WM5 - HERE
WMP will be staying and TCPMP will be packaged as a CAB
Phil
Whether the FrameWork.NET will be built-in this rom? And what version if will be.
Completely agree with this opinion: a "clean and stable" standard WM6 ROM. Everything else goes to Storage Card. Thank you for a great job !
karhoe said:
I personally prefer a clean ROM with stable Radio version. Just put in all the default softwares that a typical WM6 device will have to make it 'real' and pure WM6. Then from there, users can choose what they want to install. Perhaps put some options so that softwares like File Explorer, WMP can be uninstalled from the Remove Programs part
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WM6 is using AKU3 and NETCF2, even if its not, now we have the option to install NETCF2 into storage card directly, just download the latest NETCF2 SP2 and choose to install at storage card
karhoe I already have this version of FW.NET on my SD. I'm interesting in this, koz i need more free space in new rom. Is it possible to remove this application from rom?
It's possible yeah but why would you want to? If I ripped it out of the ROM then I'd have to put in .NET CF 1.1 and you wouldn't save any space at all...
Phil
This will be incredible if I am able to load WM6 on my Tornado. I would have no problem sending a Paypal donation? Thanks for taking our suggestion on how to make this better and is awfully kind. My only question is whether there will be a Qtek 8300, Imate SP5m version and a Qtek 8310, Imate SP5 version also?
There will be a .zip with the relevant shortcuts for each model in it that you just need to unzip to the /Windows folder on your device...
As for paypal, I'll add a donation link when i get round to setting up a paypal account/remembering my password
Phil
If you remove .NETCF from rom, all can install it to SD by themselfs using cab file. This will free more space in rom. I'm about that this app. can be installed from separate cab file to the SD card, not to the main memory as if it be in rom.
Hello!
Is there any way to remove some windows programs from the phone in a clear way? I don't mean preparing ROM without them - I mean just simple uninstalling them, e.g. removing:
-Getting Started
-Calculator
-Games
etc..
Thank you for info!
Simple answer is: NO!
The programs are ROM based and cannot be removed without
cooking a new ROM without them. That's a fact!
Olioaglio
Introducing...
TLR Kaiser 21.05.08
What's In:
Windows Mobile Professional 6.1
Core based on final HTC release
Radio from HTC final release
OEM based on HTC final release
.net Compact Framework 3.5 with messages DLLs
Remote Desktop Mobile
MoDaCo Splash Screen
Custom performance tweaks
AppToDate in ROM for update notifications and OTA update
UC compliant
What's Out:
.net Compact Framework 2.0 (3.5 is backwards compatible)
The aim of this ROM is to create one that looks and feels as stock as possible, while still getting the latest and greatest in there. IT IS COMPLETELY 'HTC' IN LOOK AND FEEL.
How to install
Install HardSPL on your device from here
Ensure the device is hooked up and ActiveSync is showing 'green'
Run this update to flash your device
That's it, you're done!
Optional (but recommended) post install additions
Currently being tested, online soon!
Credits
Paul for AppToDate, everyone who installed the last ROMs, XDA-Devs members for HardSPL, CustomRUU and the UC functionality. You all rock!
And Finally
If you find any issues, post them here and i'll do my best to fix!
Is this one with the improved graphic drivers? I am not saying the diamond drivers, because as far as i understand the diamond drivers are not ready for cooking...
It's the stock HTC 6.1 release drivers at this stage! I'll add in improved drivers if / when they come along...
It's the stock HTC 6.1 release drivers at this stage! I'll add in improved drivers if / when they come along...
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But this means it has the improvements of HTC's (un)official ROM which means spb DDB BitBit performance, right?
Very likely, cause its the latest build.
Need download link to try the rom.
badguy999 said:
Very likely, cause its the latest build.
Need download link to try the rom.
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It's in the first post.
http://www.mediafire.com/?zlfx0mmdjsa
Another link for great rom:
http://www.2shared.com/file/3321273/8b247002/tlr-210508.html
free sotrage: 128MB
free prgram memory:55MB
-Screen rotation is fast and smooth - in 1 piece
-new look of settings in camera application
-fast as L26_Kaiser_Diamond_Version_1 (also the same free program memory, 90 mb storage memory)
-some good tweaks
-wifi OK
-syncro OK
screens:
skype
is this rom skype compatible???
i like this rom but I want to Reorganize programs into certain folders
How do i do this?
Also, is there any way to choose where/what folder Cabs install to?
Same bug as the leaked HTC one, text not displayed on landscape mode if cleartype is enabled.
Little else has been changed.
BzeBwoi said:
i like this rom but I want to Reorganize programs into certain folders
How do i do this?
Also, is there any way to choose where/what folder Cabs install to?
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What do yo mean?... Reorganize programs in start menu or program in Program Files folder??...
If it is the menu, you can use Total Commander (free) and navigate to /Windows/Start Menu...
Do what ever you want to...
EDIT: And for the installation location, you can choose to install in internal memory or storage card... All apps will go to Program Files, but some will go to windows folder.
tugas2khas said:
What do yo mean?... Reorganize programs in start menu or program in Program Files folder??...
If it is the menu, you can use Total Commander (free) and navigate to /Windows/Start Menu...
Do what ever you want to...
EDIT: And for the installation location, you can choose to install in internal memory or storage card... All apps will go to Program Files, but some will go to windows folder.
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I mean to organize from in the start > Programs Folder
I want to put like all the audio/video programs in a folder called Multimedia or all utilities i.e. advanced config or kaiser tweak into a folder called Utilities.
Ive seen these types of folders on other Roms i've flashed and would just like to organize this one similar to those.
BzeBwoi said:
I mean to organize from in the start > Programs Folder
I want to put like all the audio/video programs in a folder called Multimedia or all utilities i.e. advanced config or kaiser tweak into a folder called Utilities.
Ive seen these types of folders on other Roms i've flashed and would just like to organize this one similar to those.
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Just go to \Windows\Start menu\Programs, create folders and cut/paste the shortcuts, it's like any Windows.
wow, this thread is really quite... maybe everybody is flocking around the new diamond. well, i find this rom stable and ok for my everyday use. I've use several other rom but i have problem with japanese keyboard (lingvosoft), but i didn't have problem with this rom. maybe some software didn't play well with the keyboard.
Well, it feels like the very first experience with kaiser when using this rom as all about it is stock rom..
cleaning it up a little
Thanks for the clean stock ROM. I like its performance and love the fact that there isn't a ton of stuff added. I've cooked my ROM's using Alex's kitchen in the past and like mine to be even cleaner. Is there any way to remove some of the installed programs? I'd be interested in removing the following:
- sliding sounds
- voice dial
- task manager
- windows update
- apptodate
- messenger
- remote desktop
- windows live
BzeBwoi said:
I mean to organize from in the start > Programs Folder
I want to put like all the audio/video programs in a folder called Multimedia or all utilities i.e. advanced config or kaiser tweak into a folder called Utilities.
Ive seen these types of folders on other Roms i've flashed and would just like to organize this one similar to those.
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you mean something like this
just go with file explorer(or resco explorer) or any other explorer you use
to
windows/start_menu/programs
and make new folders,named as u want ant cut/past your shortcuts into them
Just to further clarify, this ROM is based off of HTC's (soon to be released) updated Kaiser ROM discussed in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390748?
zaharakis said:
you mean something like this
just go with file explorer(or resco explorer) or any other explorer you use
to
windows/start_menu/programs
and make new folders,named as u want ant cut/past your shortcuts into them
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yea thats exactly what i wanted. thanks guys
Ok, I'm having a problem with this ROM.
If I stilling SPB PocketPlus I start experiencing lock ups on boot (just as the today screen loads) or cyclic rebooting of the device (ie it just boots, then reboots itself repeatedly).
I "think" I also experienced similiar issues with just SPB Mobile Shell 2 as well.
I say "think" because I havnt done any definitive testing, but I've hard reset my device bloody loads today and I can't bring myself to go throught it again!!
If anyone has experienced similiar issues it would be great ot hear what you did to fix it, or if indeed it is even fixable!!
Cheers.
Syphon
EDIT:
I'm having some weird issues with this ROM, today I found my device sitting there just flashing the screen backlight on and off. I have also experienced the backlight turning off at weird times. It's not as if the power settings just timed out and the screen turned off, it seems to happen randomly (in that it doesnt always happen) but it happens when I press a button or a key. Very strange.
If anyone knows what could be causing this any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
PS.
In the meantime I am going to give the latest official HTC rom a shot, failing that I will fall back to the previous TLR release (which worked ok on my device IIRC).
EDIT:
Doesnt look like I'll be rolling back as the previous TLR ROM is not on the XDA FTP or on his FTP!! D'oh.
If you are wondering why your device is suddenly slowing down and lossing memory. This might answer your question...
Everytime someone calls your phone, any miss calls, any text messages you receive, any voice messages, etc... there is a SCRIPT Notification generated that can accummulate over time and this can eat up your memory and processing time.
To get rid of them, I use Check Notification: http://www.scarybearsoftware.com/product_detail.php?productname=checknotify
Has a very small foot print and can be installed in the Flash Disk. Just go to it's settings and check the 3 boxes, run the application and clean all those unwanted SCRIPT Notifications.
I am pretty sure there are other cleaners that can do the same, if you find them, please let us know which one and how to configure them correctly.
Thanks...
excellent, just what i was looking for
because, as described, i've been experiencing that problem quite often, and it is very annoying, when you have an almost $2000 phone, and people ask you "why it's soooooo slow"
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it is kinda weird, but after installation, i can't find it anywhere, i even used windows explorer can't find the install path, WTF?
AllGamer said:
excellent, just what i was looking for
because, as described, i've been experiencing that problem quite often, and it is very annoying, when you have an almost $2000 phone, and people ask you "why it's soooooo slow"
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it is kinda weird, but after installation, i can't find it anywhere, i even used windows explorer can't find the install path, WTF?
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Did you install it in the Main Memory or Flash Disk. It should be under Program Files/Check Notifications.
If you still can't find it, use this extracted .exe file from my device. You can place it at your Flash Disk or drop it in the Windows Folder. Just create a shortcut at Windows/Start Menu/Programs
ATTENTION!!!!
In many cases after cleaning, using this software, the notification queue your device doesn't sync anymore.
The program isn't designed for WM5/6/6.1 and remove ALSO the Activesync entries (ow WMDC entries if you use VISTA).
You have to use MEMMAID to recreate activesync entries in the notification queue! (or hard reset, or recreate manually the entries, using some tools)
sergiopi said:
In many cases after cleaning, using this software, the notification queue your device doesn't sync anymore.
The program isn't designed for WM5/6/6.1 and remove ALSO the Activesync entries (ow WMDC entries if you use VISTA).
You have to use MEMMAID to recreate activesync entries in the notification queue! (or hard reset, or recreate manually the entries, using some tools)
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Works well on mine. Never erased anything other than SCRIPT Notifications, otherwise I would not have posted it here. I don't know why it erases your active sync notifications though. I have been using this software since day 1. It is the second application I installed after SKTools.
sergiopi said:
In many cases after cleaning, using this software, the notification queue your device doesn't sync anymore.
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If this ever happens. Just use the attached file. Place it in your Flash Disk and run using File Explorer. This small utility will recreate the lost active sync notification allowing you to sync again. There is no need for a bloatware software like Mem Maid.
cktlcmd said:
If this ever happens. Just use the attached file. Place it in your Flash Disk and run using File Explorer. This small utility will recreate the lost active sync notification allowing you to sync again. There is no need for a bloatware software like Mem Maid.
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Thanks for pointig out activesync fix utility. As I've told also you can use to fix"memmaid OR hard reset, or recreate manually the entries, using some tools"
The activesync checknotify problem is a random problem, but I had it since first WM5 on IMATE Kjam (HTC WIZARD) and is still here. I've tested yesterday (X7500, Michy's 6.1 ROM) and I've manually recreated replog entries because the device won't sync anymore neither with WDMCon VISTA nor with latest activesync on XP
As tool I suggest FDCSOFT taskmanager http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm (from dotfred) freeware Wm6 application (enclosed in many cooked ROMs)
It has all the notifcation queue feature needed, remove duplicated, remove scripts, (just choose the notification tab on the top) and many more features, as start/stop/select auto-manual services, regedit, ipconfig, ....
sergiopi said:
As tool I suggest FDCSOFT taskmanager http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm (from dotfred) freeware Wm6 application (enclosed in many cooked ROMs)
It has all the notifcation queue feature needed, remove duplicated, remove scripts, (just choose the notification tab on the top) and many more features, as start/stop/select auto-manual services, regedit, ipconfig, ....
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Thanks for the tip.
One thing I don't like about using MemMaid and Dot Fred's Task Manager for the removal of SCRIPT and duplicated Notifications is: it is not automatic. You have to manually check it and then confirm you want to delete it. Too many things to press after a day of text messages and phone calls.
Using Check Notifications on the other hand, it does it automatically for me after pressing CLEAR.
cktlcmd said:
Thanks for the tip.
One thing I don't like about using MemMaid and Dot Fred's Task Manager for the removal of SCRIPT and duplicated Notifications is: it is not automatic. You have to manually check it and then confirm you want to delete it. Too many things to press after a day of text messages and phone calls.
Using Check Notifications on the other hand, it does it automatically for me after pressing CLEAR.
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In the latest dotfred you just tap on the botton menu...
sergiopi said:
In the latest dotfred you just tap on the botton menu...
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Thanks again. I'll definitely check it out.
I love REAL VGA at 96 dpi. It just makes having an Advantage or Athena even better.
What battery meter or indicator are you using?
How did you get both DATE and TIME (with AM and PM included) in your top bar?
cktlcmd said:
Thanks again. I'll definitely check it out.
I love REAL VGA at 96 dpi. It just makes having an Advantage or Athena even better.
What battery meter or indicator are you using?
How did you get both DATE and TIME (with AM and PM included) in your top bar?
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I am using qwerty memory (the multi coloured bar below the green upper bar) to monitor the free memory and dci battery (the multi coloured bar on the top of the green upper bar) Freeware nice looking, attached
Date time... are from michy's 6.1 ROM, registry hack you can found it here http://www.ppcsg.com/lofiversion/index.php/t50233.html
Screen grabber is from michy's rom too
sergiopi said:
I am using qwerty memory (the multi coloured bar below the green upper bar) to monitor the free memory and dci battery (the multi coloured bar on the top of the green upper bar) Freeware nice looking, attached
Date time... are from michy's 6.1 ROM, registry hack you can found it here http://www.ppcsg.com/lofiversion/index.php/t50233.html
Screen grabber is from michy's rom too
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Thanks. I will definitely use the battery and memory CABs.
The date and time notifications, I might skip. I was hoping it would be another application. I don't want to mess with the time and date via registry because a bunch of my applications depend on it such as Pocket Live TV and Diamond TV, etc... I found out long ago, that modifying it makes the above applications crashed.
Hi,
First of all I don't mean uninstalling just any app by going in to the remove programs but the following:
when you install a rom (... I got the Excalibur NRG Rose v1.4.1 , NICE!) you gets some default programs installed with it , for example in my roms i have window media player, internet explorer, default games, but what if you don't need it?
(for example, i always use the " audio manger" instead of the window player)
I just want to know if theres a way to uninstall default apps that you cant see on the remove porgram that is on your phone.
Thanks, Louis
thanks , Louis
louis799 said:
Hi,
First of all I don't mean uninstalling just any app by going in to the remove programs but the following:
when you install a rom (... I got the Excalibur NRG Rose v1.4.1 , NICE!) you gets some default programs installed with it , for example in my roms i have window media player, internet explorer, default games, but what if you don't need it?
(for example, i always use the " audio manger" instead of the window player)
I just want to know if theres a way to uninstall default apps that you cant see on the remove porgram that is on your phone.
Thanks, Louis
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The only way you can rearrange / remove a Roms apps is by using a ROM that is UC compliant and to get the kitchen from the chef a recooking it.
Or by learning how to do it from scratch. No simple way to do this ......
okay.... You would be happen to be a " Chef" ? would you ?