Hey,
I am personally just bursting with excitement over the possibility of getting WM6 on my tornado, even though (like most folks) I doubt that I have any ability to contribute technically to the effort. So, just to get my ideas out, without cluttering the "Official WM6 thread", I started this one. This is so people who really know what they are doing don't have to screw with the clutter, unless they want to.
So, my first hope for the new ROM--I doubt that there could have been much improvement to crappy Windows Media Player, so my suggestion is that that be removed, and replaced with TCPMP.
Why not customize instalation
Sorry about my english, but why not a customize instalation ?
Like WINDOWS, you can choose in advance what aplication you want, or similar thing, like, they can generate a lot of roms with english an other language in order to save space. I will only install the rom with english and spanish.
Also, I prefer that Pocket Office will be included in the rom that you are cocking.
Thanks
Ok, plan at the moment... English ONLY ROM with various language packs (including t9) that will be available as CABs for separate installation to save precious storage. The 'vanilla' ROM (no t9, no task manager, no office, no camera) only has around 19mb of storage to play with :S
Office will be available as a CAB, again to save space. WMP has been improved with support for the creating and saving of playlists on the device. TCPMP MAY be embedded depending on how many people prefer it over WMP.
As for other stuff, I'm open to ideas, it's really up to YOU how you want this ROM to work and what's in it (within reason of course )
BTW good idea to start a new thread for requests in the ROM (useful for saving clutter ) I'll link to this in my original post in 'The Official WM6 Thread'
Phil
TCMP only is a BAD IDEA!
Error post... disregard. Next post covers everything I wanted to say.
TCMP only is a BAD IDEA!
I love TCMP, but it can't replace WMP.
Yeah, TCMP is a better player for just about everything, but there are certain things that I still need to use WMP for.
For example, streaming media is a nightmare for me in TCMP because of certain proxy servers I use. WMP shares IE's proxy settings, so if IE can see the internet, WMP can, whereas TCMP can't.
Also, I've run across some weird files (high bitrate aac's) that froze TCMP, but WMP skips over the corrupted portion and keeps playing.
Yes, TCMP is great, but not at the cost of WMP. Please, don't take it out.
Personally, just install TCMP on a storage card, and everyone should be fine!
While we're on it...
You say that you're going to make office a .cab optional installation.
Interesting... Hey, this is a long shot, but is there any way we could try that with a WM5 device? I'm really just looking for office mobile, so if there was a way to extract that and make it work on wm5, that would be AMAZING.
I know, there's probably some propietary WM6-only stuff that would prevent it from working, but thought I would ask.
Ι think that there is no one here prefers WMP over TCPMP (or Core Player) but there is no reason include it in the rom. As you said the storage memory in Tornado is valuable and I like like your idea to give us language packs in seperate cab files. I only need English and Greek pack.
Also Office and Adobe LE have already ported from rom and work fine in storage card, so no need to be in rom.
keep on good work, can't wait!!
i believe that the applications that are to be put in the rom are the standard ones... cause like everyone has said memory is so valuable... and besides you can install tcmp to it anytime you want but you cant install wmp if you take it out... to say replace wmp with tcmp in my opinon is selfish...
oh and i would like to recommend to map the media buttons (Short_AP1-4.lnk's i think) like those on the imate sp5m,qtek8300 and t-mobile sda as default... most roms even the custom iphone dropped this... cause its a nice feature of the tornadoes... and if those arent the "would be" users preference its easy to remap it with something else but remapping it to a rom that dosent support it (like the c500 rom) is really hard... just my 2 cents...
I suppose there is a use for WMP...I do use it to play drm-protected (license only) wma files. but maybe coreplayer can get licenses? I suppose if we have to have wmp, tcpmp will stay on the storage card. no complaints.
I do hope that a2dp support exists in the new rom. That is something I can't live without.
With regards to the media player buttons...that would of course be different between 8310/sp5 and 8300/sp5m. It is easy enough to customise those in existing wm5 roms, but I wonder what version of tornado this rom is coming from?
Sorry for my poor english. Is it real to do that new rom will be unlocked passing over in silence? That will be handy to use. My opinion that there is no reason to include in rom those application that can be installable by the separete cab files. Every one can decide what to install by itself. I think there is no need to include in rom WML or pocket MSN, original file manager and task manager. Every one can decide what to use. Thanks.
good point lovetz... making them installable cabs would save alot of memory... and yes the file explorer from the rom does suck ends! maybe our chefs could do that...
and yes i hope they put in a2dp support!!! good bye wires!!!
I personally prefer a clean ROM with stable Radio version. Just put in all the default softwares that a typical WM6 device will have to make it 'real' and pure WM6. Then from there, users can choose what they want to install. Perhaps put some options so that softwares like File Explorer, WMP can be uninstalled from the Remove Programs part
Few updates for you
A2DP - built into the ROM already
Office for WM5 - HERE
WMP will be staying and TCPMP will be packaged as a CAB
Phil
Whether the FrameWork.NET will be built-in this rom? And what version if will be.
Completely agree with this opinion: a "clean and stable" standard WM6 ROM. Everything else goes to Storage Card. Thank you for a great job !
karhoe said:
I personally prefer a clean ROM with stable Radio version. Just put in all the default softwares that a typical WM6 device will have to make it 'real' and pure WM6. Then from there, users can choose what they want to install. Perhaps put some options so that softwares like File Explorer, WMP can be uninstalled from the Remove Programs part
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WM6 is using AKU3 and NETCF2, even if its not, now we have the option to install NETCF2 into storage card directly, just download the latest NETCF2 SP2 and choose to install at storage card
karhoe I already have this version of FW.NET on my SD. I'm interesting in this, koz i need more free space in new rom. Is it possible to remove this application from rom?
It's possible yeah but why would you want to? If I ripped it out of the ROM then I'd have to put in .NET CF 1.1 and you wouldn't save any space at all...
Phil
This will be incredible if I am able to load WM6 on my Tornado. I would have no problem sending a Paypal donation? Thanks for taking our suggestion on how to make this better and is awfully kind. My only question is whether there will be a Qtek 8300, Imate SP5m version and a Qtek 8310, Imate SP5 version also?
There will be a .zip with the relevant shortcuts for each model in it that you just need to unzip to the /Windows folder on your device...
As for paypal, I'll add a donation link when i get round to setting up a paypal account/remembering my password
Phil
If you remove .NETCF from rom, all can install it to SD by themselfs using cab file. This will free more space in rom. I'm about that this app. can be installed from separate cab file to the SD card, not to the main memory as if it be in rom.
Related
Hi all,
Yet another Poll,
Please vote in order to help us set some priorities and focus on the next Roms.
Vanilla : -- Speaks for itself -- Basic OS
Business : -- Vanilla with Productivity Tools/Apps/Utils (M$Voice Command, Pim Backup, Full Office, Cambirdge BT Stack,Tray Launch to mention a few)
Full Flavour : -- Whatever we can cram into the Rom that benefits your average user.
Vanilla With Cabs : -- Cab files on extended Rom to install Apps at will.
Please feel to post any apps utils (Freeware/ShareWare only) that you would like included or feel would be useful to the rest of the community.
Cheers,
Regards,
Beast
+1 for Vanilla & Cabs - Since thats what the Extended ROM is for anyway...
Also, this allows you to easily customise\uninstall what you don't need
I vote either for vanilla. having the extended rom free for the most important document has become important for me.. business may be interesting too if not too much filled up
TehPenguin said:
+1 for Vanilla & Cabs - Since thats what the Extended ROM is for anyway...
Also, this allows you to easily customise\uninstall what you don't need
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I couldn't agree more!
An extended ROM with all the cabs present in the business version (including VC final version ) would allow any newbie to customize is won ROM.
Just open the extended ROM and select the wanted cabs.
If you provide the cabs and an extended ROM it would be even better!!
+1 For Full Flavour
The more space you can use on the ROM the better. Vanillas just waste ROM space since the only way you can put anything on the ROM is by flashing. I'll just take out anything on startup that I don't need.
best option for every one: Vanilla + CABs.
i, for example, cannot stand having voice command installed.
other ppl wouldn't like msn live installed. etc etc...
the debate is endless - everyone likes something else to be installed or uninstalled.
this is why vanilla + cabs would do the best job satisfying everyone.
storage space would be compermised though. but thats the sacrifice we have to make.
More storage more storage
OK,
So far the majority seem to prefer Vanilla and cab version, yet we also want to keep extended rom.
What if we go for exteneded Rom, unhidden, writeable and renamed to storage, then you can install any apps in there you wish.
We could make the cabs available (with an auto-install option too if you wish) and they install from your SD Cards.
This way it may keep the majority happy you get an extra 10mb storage to play with (rather than having the cabs in it) and anything you want auto-installed after 1st boot you simply copy to say "Install" Dir on your SD Cards.
There's another option to mull over guys!
Cheers,
Beast
that's the idea!! after reading davince's post I realized he was right and I wasn't...but your idea looks like unbeatable!
beast0898 said:
OK,
So far the majority seem to prefer Vanilla and cab version, yet we also want to keep extended rom.
What if we go for exteneded Rom, unhidden, writeable and renamed to storage, then you can install any apps in there you wish.
We could make the cabs available (with an auto-install option too if you wish) and they install from your SD Cards.
This way it may keep the majority happy you get an extra 10mb storage to play with (rather than having the cabs in it) and anything you want auto-installed after 1st boot you simply copy to say "Install" Dir on your SD Cards.
There's another option to mull over guys!
Cheers,
Beast
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You guys are great!!
Is getting hard to wait for such a wonderful ROM!!!
Vanilla + cabs. But when I say Vanilla, I don't mean removing things such as Windows Live - which is part of WM6!
possibly use the method i pioneered? you cook in as many programs as you can (full flavour) BUT you leave out the registry and shortcuts for them, and stick those in cabs. the result is a vannilla + cabs rom that has much more free storage. also (you probably know this) try to use initflashfiles as little as possible as it copies them from rom to storage memory, where ever possible (almost always) leave things in the windows dir and change the shortcuts + reg to match that.
just my 2p
Midget_1990 said:
possibly use the method i pioneered?
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no offence or anything of course, but helmi did it before you
jasonkruys said:
Vanilla + cabs. But when I say Vanilla, I don't mean removing things such as Windows Live - which is part of WM6!
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I agree, all the apps that normally come with WM6 (namely Windows Live & MS Office) should definitely be included in ROM 100% - then we can call that "vanilla" (anything else would just not be "WM6"). And possibly a better Bluetooth stack, as technically that would just be a "bugfix".
shlomki said:
no offence or anything of course, but helmi did it before you
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non taken, im sure he did, I just hadnt seen it done before
Midget_1990 said:
possibly use the method i pioneered? you cook in as many programs as you can (full flavour) BUT you leave out the registry and shortcuts for them, and stick those in cabs. the result is a vannilla + cabs rom that has much more free storage. also (you probably know this) try to use initflashfiles as little as possible as it copies them from rom to storage memory, where ever possible (almost always) leave things in the windows dir and change the shortcuts + reg to match that.
just my 2p
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This would be perfect.
I really want vanilla, I dont even want windows live, messenger or voice dial.....a very clean Rom. Please if you could just put one like that up for down load as well as what ever else, that would be great.
Cheers
guinevere
guinevere said:
I really want vanilla, I dont even want windows live, messenger or voice dial.....a very clean Rom. Please if you could just put one like that up for down load as well as what ever else, that would be great.
Cheers
guinevere
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Hi,
So it looks like, some people want Vanilla and some want Vanilla without the "essence" LoL.........
We'll see what we can do.
Almost there with VC so Roms shouldn't be too far off now.
Keep y'all posted.
Maybe we'll just release another kitchen update more automated than the last ones, I'm toying with an "AutoBuild" option on the kitchen to throw out pre-configured Roms based on a tick box GUI. Basically fire up the kitchen make your selection, click go, have a coffee, Rom built and flashed.
L8rs,
Beast
Peoples wishes
Hi all,
Leo and I are going to re-design the kitchen (rather than cooking a load of Roms)
I'll update the Kitchen (with bug fixes included) and add a front end that will allow you all to choose what flavour you want and have a one click build and flash process. Toying with the idea of also having a custom build that allows you to choose which oems to install as well as adding oems for commonly used apps such as SPB Phone, SPB Today, CorePlayer etc with the option to enter your serial numbers before cooking or build with demo version installed (but this requires a lot more work to incorporate so we'll see how it goes)
Items fixed so far wifi wpa
fully-functional phone (quick responding keys) The response was slow and Talk button doesn't always work.
Ringtones on SD Card.
New Email account creation
Thanks again to Leo for his help with all of this.
Cheers,
Beast
hi, just to let you know i will be back, thanks to pug i've brought the its i needed to fix my Universal, however i also have my new athena so i wont have enough time to maintain a whole rom release but, if you guys doing the kitchen have anything you want doing i could help with that
beast0898 said:
Hi all,
Leo and I are going to re-design the kitchen (rather than cooking a load of Roms)
I'll update the Kitchen (with bug fixes included) and add a front end that will allow you all to choose what flavour you want and have a one click build and flash process. Toying with the idea of also having a custom build that allows you to choose which oems to install as well as adding oems for commonly used apps such as SPB Phone, SPB Today, CorePlayer etc with the option to enter your serial numbers before cooking or build with demo version installed (but this requires a lot more work to incorporate so we'll see how it goes)
Items fixed so far wifi wpa
fully-functional phone (quick responding keys) The response was slow and Talk button doesn't always work.
Ringtones on SD Card.
New Email account creation
Thanks again to Leo for his help with all of this.
Cheers,
Beast
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wpa-tkip fixed??
way to go!
i wonder, what did the trick?
Windows Mobile 6 ROM for Tornado ( VA_alpha )
: ) , first at all, sorry for my poor english...and, thanks to phil.
This rom is made by Vito(里脊肉) and Annie
. based on Phil's Tornado Windows Mobile 6 ALPHA
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ADD:
added STK support
added HTC comm manager
added wm5storage v1.75 (we change the icon, i think you will like it )
added celetask v2.2.2466 (as a default taskmanager, "Long_Home" to active )
added default WM6 picture as new splash screen
FIX:
MMS fixed(thanx enjoyamd)
Camera fixed
CHANGE:
Change carrier_splash.png & carrier_shutdown.png
Change cprogback.png
REMOVE:
removed all debug apps
removed MarketPlace
removed WindowsUpdate
removed red letters at startup now
OTHER:
application unlocked
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DOWNLOAD:
you can download the .exe file from the follow link, you can setup it directly or you can use WINRAR to extract the file.
and please report the bugs and give us your advices here... thanks...
http://www.annievo.com/software/WM6_Tornado_VA_Alpha_01.exe
Burkay's rapidshare link: (thanks to Burkay)
http://rapidshare.com/files/46421886/WM6_Tornado_VA_Alpha_01.exe.html
If you remove the apps , it would be better to package them as cabs and supply them with your ROM as well
Sha...fa!!! Gone!!!
What is the free ROM and RAM space after flashing ?
cool, more and more roms are comming...
my tornado is alive and kicking after a few months in a drawer...
Thank's to those envolved in the rom cooking...
What languages contains this rom? And what about free space in storage after flashing?
hi, just flashed...
avail. storage: 16.33mb
total storage: 19.94mb
avail. memory: 23.59mb
total memory: 44.67mb
It also comes with t9 in english and german.
font size is the same as phil's first rom, not small like the chinese roms.
i'll post more difs as i find them...
i say.... just wait for phill's beta and then try to do more custom roms. it is not worth to do more alpha versions because they still have a s*** load of bugs
bogdi1988 said:
i say.... just wait for phill's beta and then try to do more custom roms. it is not worth to do more alpha versions because they still have a s*** load of bugs
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can you pleaz tell me the exact bug in this alpha rom.?
thanx....
no offence, but here is a list of bugs that i have found in the alpha version by phill. can you confirm that all of them have been fixed?
if u remove windows update, at least supply it as a cab in the extras folder.
channels don't work.
long pressed side button does not work! it used to start voice note record for the sda and i'd like that to work.
mms.
better camera software. btw htc camera makes the phone SLOW..... not a good one. need an alternate
enable profile switching to silent when long pressing '#' key
default folder for saving pictures on storage card is not my documents\my pictures any more but a lame dcim folder. that would be nice to be changed.
also, sometimes when answering a call, the keyboard stays locked, the call is still on, but the home screen is active and not the call screen.
joystick seems much better but sometimes it doesn't want to work as it should. maybe another driver; if not, this one is good
we need wpa2 for wifi enabled.
also add in the extras folder:
moblue
tcpmp with extra codecs
htc audio manager could be good
if u need the cabs for moblue and htc audio, i have them
there is an newer version of sim manager. v6.10. has a couple of new things (got it if u need it)
and maybe add a good version of opera. not the java one.
we also need a good midlet manager
also a good instant messaging program. maybe a multi client one like oz mobile im, or like im+
better the pure clean system without apps you listed here, there is no need to add to the ROM (don't judge me, just my opinion )
bogdi1988 said:
no offence, but here is a list of bugs that i have found in the alpha version by phill. can you confirm that all of them have been fixed?
if u remove windows update, at least supply it as a cab in the extras folder.
channels don't work.
long pressed side button does not work! it used to start voice note record for the sda and i'd like that to work.
mms.
better camera software. btw htc camera makes the phone SLOW..... not a good one. need an alternate
enable profile switching to silent when long pressing '#' key
default folder for saving pictures on storage card is not my documents\my pictures any more but a lame dcim folder. that would be nice to be changed.
also, sometimes when answering a call, the keyboard stays locked, the call is still on, but the home screen is active and not the call screen.
joystick seems much better but sometimes it doesn't want to work as it should. maybe another driver; if not, this one is good
we need wpa2 for wifi enabled.
also add in the extras folder:
moblue
tcpmp with extra codecs
htc audio manager could be good
if u need the cabs for moblue and htc audio, i have them
there is an newer version of sim manager. v6.10. has a couple of new things (got it if u need it)
and maybe add a good version of opera. not the java one.
we also need a good midlet manager
also a good instant messaging program. maybe a multi client one like oz mobile im, or like im+
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all I want to say is:
just try this rom
it will not disappoint you...
thx. i will try it when i get the chance
Could anybody put it on rapidshare? Please
Update: nevermind.
I would like to download it, but it's unreal with so slow download speed from your link
it seem this ROM is not an alpha but an official release
all is working very good !!!
thank you !!!
Upgraded a few minutes ago without a problem.
All looks good, but I will test it further once I copy the contents of my old SDCard to my new 2gb
Right now it is lagging due to the file transfer going on.
Rapidshare link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/46421886/WM6_Tornado_VA_Alpha_01.exe.html
we do not change the rom size.. so you can dump this rom then add more apps as you like...
heihei, if you like, we can also make it smaller...(ANNIE)
kajdax said:
I would like to download it, but it's unreal with so slow download speed from your link
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sorry about it, the server is in china...
Hey guys,
So I finally got this outstanding TNT running and I'm getting to know it a little more everyday!
Now here's my little dilemma; I don't like WMP, never have. So on my TNT 19199 rom TCPMP was great. But on this TNT Pro (19213), it just isn't working! I downloaded the latest TCPMP that came in the fun pack, I tried the FLV patch, tried selecting all file associations on the program, even did the registry edit! Still, nothing.... IE runs wmp for vids or audios. I want TCPMP.
Is there anyway to deactivate WMP if all else fails???
Phil
P.s. - I little bit off subect here, but what is the best setting for the Pocketsnes? It runs real slow and for some reason, the buttons are never right! I like to play in landscape with the keypad.
Also, the connection between some bluetooth devices and my pda is a bit screwy. Is there some sort of patch to perfect the connection, make it more clear?
Last thing, what does A2DP do? Is that what I should use for my BT problem? And how do we set up the SDAutorun? I much appreciate that programs run off my SD card rather than clutter the pda's main memory...
By the way...
By the way guys,
I'd like to know how to release the ie touch. I don't know how to explain it, to be able to move the screen around like on opera or on the ie touchflo.... I don't want to install touchflo, just have that option on ie. I think there was a registry edit for that, although I can't remember where...
Also, I just saw a vid on youtube about the google android software on his wizard. The guy was running his wizard at 312mhz! Is that ever possible???
Phil
...?
Uhhmmmm,
Anyone?
Whats up Men! or Girl?
So I dont know... jeje sorry.
here I go...
1.- TNT 19213 has too much issues like HTC audiomanager in htc home doesnt works, no IR beam file for push it like obex, no HTC cube contacts face, this little issues makes me unhappy so i started to search fixes, NO FIXES instead!.
2.- The TCPMP is a great app, in this version from fun pack .81 RC if the flv option doesnt exist, instal the two files that are atached to this post uncompress the 2 FLV files and copy them to: storage... or root ...progam files/tcpmp/ folder that has every codec, if there is the square on file association check it! and exit the program by FIle menu... exit. and turn off the device and so... soft reset, it will function at all.
3.- It doesnt seems to be a fix for change the wmp to tcpmp plug in PIE but if you wish try the original app from streaming media cab in cabs for tnt roms forum right here on this thread.
4.- Because our poor speed processor the emulating is awfull! really awfull! none can turn landscreen on emulators, this 320 mhz omap processor maybe a 8525 device wizard like but it isnt wizard is a HERMES it has much PUNCH! i can retrieve you a most functional emulator but slow cause our processor its attached too.
5.- A2DP is stereo sound via bluetooth headset it came since aku 2 in WM5 is old but good, the issues for bluetooth that you are experimenting are normal because the new platfrm WM6.1 and ftp app.... and celphones with obex file tranfer, and other PPCs with other operative systems, this sucks but its truth.
6.- The sd autorun works simply but some programs wont be installed on your sd card, so if you don want this, its better that you can obtein cabs with options to install the program on SD or Main memory. thats cause the cab construction not for the UC capable Roms with SD autorun.
7.- For PIE touchy jeje you cant turn it touchy its better te Netfront 3.3 free version or 3.5 beta trial version. the 3.5 trial beta version has touchy settings its nice but beta trial, just change your date and enjoy for ever!
I hope to be usefull for you attending your PM, see you soon.. Men or GIRL?
I will try pda viet 19213 right here it seems to be great! jeje
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403425
Oh it hasn't splash screens!
Watch it, all 3 splash screens can be mod! amazing this is some thing i did.
the pda viet roms dont has splash screens just the last one but is awfull jeje try this.
what an enthusiasm, wow.
have fun..
btw...
just try fockin OLD 0.81 tcpmp + whole set of 'good' plugins.
I decided to build some custom ROM based on your interest and taste.
I'll consider the flavor if I have a "number of requests" for the same and offcourse it should be manageable .
Cheers
thanx Tomal, it should be great,
i need a rom with empty installation,
example.
No softwares installed in it just WM6.1 with drivers
I need the Diamond DialPad like PDAVIET'sROM. Other, fast and a big FD
Thanks
tomal said:
I decided to build some custom ROM based on your interest and taste.
I'll consider the flavor if I have a "number of requests" for the same and offcourse it should be manageable .
Cheers
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Thanks a lot Tomal! as always doing the best for all of us!
My request would be a ROM including this:
HTC home without freezing and wheather update working
WM7 theme
Advance config
The best speed as possible!!!
Messenger latest version without windows live
Office mobile
Some finger friendly keyboard
Opera the newest
A nice comm manager
TCPM
The minimal quantity of programs to run well (No games, search, help,
And I think this is not possible but you are the magician: A way to have 850mhz band to connect to 3G (As in Mexico is the band used for 3G)
Thanks a lot!
Cheers
Wow Tomal, that's very considerate of you. I'm sure you're now going to get as many flavours as there are replies!!
I love your v8.0 ROM. I think the only thing I add to your ROM is PocketCM (which I believe can't be added because of updating etc) and GPRS programs (Route66 etc).
However if I go into settings/system/about, I notice the memory differs (the ROM memory, not the free stuff). Why is that? Is is possible to make a ROM with more Memory?
tuecan said:
I need the Diamond DialPad like PDAVIET'sROM. Other, fast and a big FD
Thanks
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with the last rom....
Cool!
After loading your roms I usually add:
TouchFlo_v1.4.1 + FTouchFloConfig_v0.9 -> without any graphics, i use this to enable finger scroling in all windows apps, like file explorer, comboboxs, lists etc
BatteryStatusExt.1.05 -> i only select the second row (Indicators) to see in the home screen and in windows bar the cpu usage, to know if the universal is working or not , i would like an app that only puts in the windows bar the cpu usage and the ram available (Wasn't that good to have one of our light indicators flashing when our cpu reaches 100%? almost like our PCs with the disk light? This is possible, one program that set the SD card like a usb disk used the lights to show activity...)
PJC_HTCHome -> it's working 100% (including weather) just missing the media player...
SRS_WOWHD_ARM -> tweak universal sound rock/classic etc
I'm happy with the new Windows Media Player in 8.0
I'm not happy with the contact manager, Not finger friendly...
I'm not happy with image viewer... zoom and other iphone capabilities
Happy with TCPMP, Total Comander, WKTask Manager, RegistryEditor, Pocket RAR, Messenger, Adobe Reader, Comm Manager, Advanced Config, Performance, SD Settings, USB to PC, Office, Battery indicator in the top of the screen
WTF do we need Time Sync... doesn't ActiveSync does that??
I often install QuickMenu_en_2.7 but this should be a simpler program
JAVA!!!!
OPERA!!!!
Tweaker for the velocity vs memory problem -> app that sets the pda to work how we need when we need with a simple reboot - is this possible?? (Tweak those memory eating things that makes wm faster, way to choose if we now(via reboot) want more velocity or more ram...)
Video Call (One idea, since we can't have VC in wm6 why not use a rom from wm5 and add the latest things? I know some things come with windows, but we could have a wm5 rom up to date)
One thing I would ask too is a counter of the kbs that we use in gprs/umts, we have a time counter but we are not paying by time but by kbs... (and better better was a way to filter msn traffic since here in Portugal we have free messenger 8) )
I'm happy with the black theme, but yes it would be good to be able to change
All and all I would like a Rom with the least things in RAM but with all the minimum features installed or in cabs (installed if there are tweaks fot them)
The most important thing for me is to use the pda with fingers and without precision so i can use it while walking, riding the train etc
If i remember other thing i'll tell
French Rom plz
Hello Tomal,
First, thanx for your great ROMs
I think we are a lot wait ing for someone cooking a French WM6.1 ROM.
I hope it will be a reality one day ...
And Portuguese... Portugal Portuguese.. Never existed for universal :'(
mohsinrizwan said:
thanx Tomal, it should be great,
i need a rom with empty installation,
example.
No softwares installed in it just WM6.1 with drivers
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I agree.. sorta.
a more vanilla ish rom with nothing except things like tie sync sd settings advanced config arcsoft mms..
that way people can add the things that they want after.. the things I listed are usually needed to set up the device. actully just mms and sd settings are really needed since cabs for everything else exist.. and arcsoft doesn't really like to be installed after the fact.
mohsinrizwan said:
thanx Tomal, it should be great,
i need a rom with empty installation,
example.
No softwares installed in it just WM6.1 with drivers
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Me too, fresh vanilla rom will be great with the latest core
I also go for the fresh vanilla ROM witht he latest core.
I need mms function,thanks
I like the idea and your rom releases, maybe you could improve 7.7 and make 7.8 Its a very good rom already, maybe just need some more enhancements posted at the 7.7 thread.
I want vanilla ROM with the latest Core.
tomal v8 with mms!!!! please
pkfloyd said:
tomal v8 with mms!!!! please
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pkfloyd u can use Tomal V8 with MMS just install Arcsoft MMS 4.2
download arcsoft 4.2 from here
first install 1_install_cert.cab and then 2_dattad_ArcsoftMMS_v4.2.8.1.cab
Download Link:
http://ukstreet.co.uk/arcsoft/1_install_cert.cab
http://ukstreet.co.uk/arcsoft/2_dattad_ArcsoftMMS_v4.2.8.1.rar
I think it should continue its work with the vc in wm6.x for uni. You do would realize the dream of many.
Thank you.
Clean of any osftware rom :with flashdik , max mem, stable.
Only add SMS,BT,SDHC, cam softwares
And multilanguage if possible
I would be happy with 7.7 minus MyMobiler, WkTask Manager, Bubble Breaker, PIE, WMP and other similarly useless bits and pieces that take space. So yep, 7.7 or 7.8 in vanilla would do me fine. Got everything else in .CABs anyway - Opera, Conduits Player, TouchFlo, All Black .tsk, Diamond apps and now testing SKYPE that works for 8.0 on 7.7.
And, of course, Video Call is on my Christmas wishlist....
Thank You so much, Tomal, love your ROMs. (We need kiss emoticon!)
Hi,
I am using in my ROM the normal process to start the customization after burning the ROM.
File \OEM\OperatorPKG\mxipupdate_zzPIED_101.provxml:
<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="Registry">
<characteristic type="HKLM\Comm" >
<parm name="AutoRunCFG" value="\windows\config_operator.txt" datatype="string" />
<parm name="AutoRun" value="\windows\AutoRun.exe" datatype="string" />
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>
In my config_operator.txt I am installing some CABs - which works fine.
My idea was to delete all CABs after installation automatically. For that reason I have changed a *.rgu under \SYS\Shell:
from
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\cabfile\Shell\Open\Command]
@="wceload.exe \"%1\" /delete 1"
to
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\cabfile\Shell\Open\Command]
@="wceload.exe \"%1\" /nodelete"
In normal cases @="wceload.exe \"%1\" /delete 1" makes sure the a CAB will be deleted after installation.
If I install a CAB after customization the CAB is gone - so far so good - means the entry in the registry is fine.
Unfortunately, during the customization (which works fine) the CABs are still under \windows. It seems that the above change does not work with customization.
Question:
Does the autorun process (during the customization) after burning a ROM also using the wceload.exe to install a CAB ?
Regards
kuzco1
I was going to ask a very similar question, but I think I'll just bump yours instead
'Burn' the ROM
Yes, really like it rather than 'flash'.
If u want the cab deleted after autorun, just remove the read-only attributes & vice-versa. (if cabs in SD)
/nodelete switch wont work as it still delete the cab if the cab is not with read-only attr.
i think autorun doesnt use wceload but let the experts confirm it first. Just my guess.
So you want to delete a file from the ROM during customization (wont work) or off the MicroSD (would work), however I don't think I would include something from the SD in the customization XML I would use an auto installer first.
Thanks
Wait, I'm sorry, but it looks like you've changed the registry to NOT delete the .cab
mbarvian said:
Wait, I'm sorry, but it looks like you've changed the registry to NOT delete the .cab
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Heh...yeah I think he got those switched.
But, the point is.. when you cook a ROM, everything in that ROM gets flashed to the read-only part of your device's memory. It can't be deleted...through any (normal) means.
This is one of the reasons some people like lite-ROMS...because ROMs that have alot of stuff in them just can't have their contents manually deleted.
With the Kasier memory map at least there is no way to do this.
As suggested, you could have those CABs on the storage card, but that wouldn't be advised as those might not be present.
bengalih said:
Heh...yeah I think he got those switched.
But, the point is.. when you cook a ROM, everything in that ROM gets flashed to the read-only part of your device's memory. It can't be deleted...through any (normal) means.
This is one of the reasons some people like lite-ROMS...because ROMs that have alot of stuff in them just can't have their contents manually deleted.
With the Kasier memory map at least there is no way to do this.
As suggested, you could have those CABs on the storage card, but that wouldn't be advised as those might not be present.
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OK thanks for that useful info bengalih
hmm, so I guess the best thing to do would be either cook it in, or go for a light approach. However, if going with the light approach, wouldn't the device perform worse than if the .cabs were cooked in an OEM package?
mbarvian said:
OK thanks for that useful info bengalih
hmm, so I guess the best thing to do would be either cook it in, or go for a light approach. However, if going with the light approach, wouldn't the device perform worse than if the .cabs were cooked in an OEM package?
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As far as I know... the memory in the Kaiser is the same type, and is just separated into the read-only portion (where the ROM is flashed to), and the writable portion (where you can install content into).
This has been mentioned many times, and I don't think anyone has gotten any more conclusive than I had in some earlier threads about memory types on the kasier.
So, no... if you install App1.exe by cooking into your ROM, vs. installing it afterwards, there shouldn't be a difference in the speed. Obviously, if you install it to your storage card it will be slower.
I have always been a proponent of lighter ROMS, the reason being is not that I don't want a lot of stuff...I generally do load a lot.. But, the problem is it can't be removed.
So, if you cook in an app into your ROM, and that app is then updated you have to install the updated versoin without removing the original (which is cooked in and read-only). To make it worse, quite a few apps install things in the \Windows directory and won't even allow you to upgrade because it can't overwrite itself (or be installed to an alternate location).
My advice, especially if cooking for yourself is to cook in any core apps that are unlikely to get updated (like Office, basic games, etc.). Just cook in the files (e.g OEM packages) and not the CABs themselves.
Any other apps that you see as needing updates I would install separately, unless you want to be recooking the ROM every time you want to update them.
bengalih said:
As far as I know... the memory in the Kaiser is the same type, and is just separated into the read-only portion (where the ROM is flashed to), and the writable portion (where you can install content into).
This has been mentioned many times, and I don't think anyone has gotten any more conclusive than I had in some earlier threads about memory types on the kasier.
So, no... if you install App1.exe by cooking into your ROM, vs. installing it afterwards, there shouldn't be a difference in the speed. Obviously, if you install it to your storage card it will be slower.
I have always been a proponent of lighter ROMS, the reason being is not that I don't want a lot of stuff...I generally do load a lot.. But, the problem is it can't be removed.
So, if you cook in an app into your ROM, and that app is then updated you have to install the updated versoin without removing the original (which is cooked in and read-only). To make it worse, quite a few apps install things in the \Windows directory and won't even allow you to upgrade because it can't overwrite itself (or be installed to an alternate location).
My advice, especially if cooking for yourself is to cook in any core apps that are unlikely to get updated (like Office, basic games, etc.). Just cook in the files (e.g OEM packages) and not the CABs themselves.
Any other apps that you see as needing updates I would install separately, unless you want to be recooking the ROM every time you want to update them.
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wow, another good post
that is basically what I am trying to accomplish. I have my registry tweaks, files that don't get updated (Office, etc.) cooked in, but for some reason I cannot change the look of the dialer (I wanted to use poorlyduck's diamond dialer) by converting it to an OEM package with Ervius' Package Creator. Same with the comm manager skin. Therfore, I have resorted to installing these two through their default cabinet files during initial customization.
also, here's some very nice posts by duttythroy in the diamond rom development concerning this topic:
duttythroy said:
Just a tip, A clean rom is very good if you going to stick with what you got in the rom and possible a few otther apps by cabs, If your going to installed the same apps which are in a full rom then the clean rom with those apps in will make you lose valuable storage space rather than them cooked in and sometimes device will start to feel sluggish but it all depends on how many cabs youre going to re-install.
TIps , there are certain apps which are cooked in doesnt take up any storage space but if install by cab you will then use up valuable space.
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bascally there some programs which ar cooked in for e.g Remote desktop, If cook this in its 1.45mb I think, I will only use up only about .45mb and save 1mb of storage space, If i install this by cab I would use up all of the 1.45mb storage space
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mbarvian said:
wow, another good post
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also, here's some very nice posts by duttythroy in the diamond rom development concerning this topic:
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Well dutty is by far a better cook than I... I'll stick to the scripting. I understand the basics of cooking...I just don't have the temperment for it.
However, I don't fully agree with all those points. I think his conclusions are correct, but I don't think the reasoning behind them are.
First off with space. Windows machines (be they PCs or WM devices) are basically made up of two things. File system and Registry (the registry just being a special file on the system). If I remove 2MB worth of an app from a ROM before I cook it, and then create a .CAB that contains those 2MB of files, the same amount of space is going to be taken up.
I have ripped quite a few apps to compile CABS from ROMs, and I know this to be the case.
So, in theory there is no reason why an app that is cooked into the phone would take up any less space than a .CAB. The only additional thing that the .CAB would create is a registry entry that the .CAB is installed.
In practice however, dutty may be correct. Because it is very difficult to figure out where everything is and strip it properly from a ROM. So, you might think you ripped out App1, but in reality you left a couple of extra files in the Windows directory, or a few registry keys, etc. Generally if there is a space discepancy beyond a very small amount (a couple reg entries perhaps) then the cook doing the cleaning or the person packaging the CAB probably weren't as thorough as they could be.
Another possibility is that some apps that may reside in the windows directory on a loaded ROM share some common files. If you attempt to install this via CAB to a separate directory, you may need to duplicate some files. But again, this is how you go about the work, so if done right and clean the space difference should be negligible.
The other point regarding speed of cooked in vs. installed. I don't think things are going to get sluggish one way or the other. Again, this is in theory. In practice, cooks often mess things up when they are in there tinkering with a ROM. If I rip out AppA and make a CAB out of it and then say the CAB performs sluggishly whereas it was fine when it was cooked in...well then the CAB probably was ripped wrong!
This is very much not an science but an art (sometimes to my dismay!). And there definitely isn't alot of controlled scientific basis for alot of what floats around out here.
Again, in practice many of these issues happen, so I think dutty's points are valid...but I think they can be avoided with precision work.
EDIT: I suppose some greater space savings could be had if the cooked in apps had some sort of memory compression. Although as far as I know this doesn't exist on the Kaiser. And, even if they were saving space due to compression in the memory, that would only serve to decrease performance (higher compression = slower performance).
bengalih said:
So, in theory there is no reason why an app that is cooked into the phone would take up any less space than a .CAB. The only additional thing that the .CAB would create is a registry entry that the .CAB is installed.
In practice however, dutty may be correct. Because it is very difficult to figure out where everything is and strip it properly from a ROM. So, you might think you ripped out App1, but in reality you left a couple of extra files in the Windows directory, or a few registry keys, etc. Generally if there is a space discepancy beyond a very small amount (a couple reg entries perhaps) then the cook doing the cleaning or the person packaging the CAB probably weren't as thorough as they could be.
Another possibility is that some apps that may reside in the windows directory on a loaded ROM share some common files. If you attempt to install this via CAB to a separate directory, you may need to duplicate some files. But again, this is how you go about the work, so if done right and clean the space difference should be negligible.
The other poing regarding speed of cooked in vs. installed. I don't think things are going to get sluggish one way or the other. Again, this is in theory. In practice, cooks often mess things up when they are in there tinkering with a ROM. If I rip out AppA and make a CAB out of it and then say the CAB performs sluggishly whereas it was fine when it was cooked in...well then the CAB probably was ripped wrong!
This is very much not an science but an art (sometimes to my dismay!). And there definitely isn't alot of controlled scientific basis for alot of what floats around out here.
Again, in practice many of these issues happen, so I think dutty's points are valid...but I think they can be avoided with precision work.
EDIT: I suppose some greater space savings could be had if the cooked in apps had some sort of memory compression. Although as far as I know this doesn't exist on the Kaiser. And, even if they were saving space due to compression in the memory, that would only serve to decrease performance (higher compression = slower performance).
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can't argue with this post
mbarvian said:
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hi,
yes you are right .. I have done the other wy. My fault in my first post. I have changed /nodelete to /delete.
But anyway, I understood that it is not possible to delete cabs during customization.
Many thanks to all
kuzco1