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HI EVERYONE
I HAVE BEEN READING A LOT ABOUT THE 1.11ROM
I JUST INSTALLED THE RADIO PART OF IT ...
BUT TO MY DISAPPOINTMENT ... NO CHANGE TO MY PREVIOUS 1.01
HAVENT INSTALLED THE COMPLETE ROM BUT WANNA KNOW IF THERE IS ANY ADVANTAGE AT ALL ??????
sigh
what was that for ??
@ morphosin
I suppose, it was his way to say "well, there are several threads in this forum about upgrading to 1.11. Please take a look at the search button".
If You are currently using radio 1.01, upgrading to 1.11 should be a major improvement. Wne I upgraded to 1.05 (or was it 1.06) it was a big step towards good sound (but I must admit that there is hardly a difference between 1.06 and 1.11 in terms of sound). Sound improvement will not depend on the installation of the other ROM-Files, the radio.nbf is enough.
with 1.11 there will be only a few performance features at my side ...
Too bad none of those several threads are able to conclusively identify any solid benefit from upgrading. I am still looking for posts that tell me why 1.11 is worth the bother. And he did say he was reading about it beforehand (presumably in this forum). So seems the question is valid in my opinion.
ROM upgrades are mostly used to fix bugs in older version. From time to time new capabilities are thrown in as well, but that is not the main concern of a ROM update. So the question is: do you want to live with these bugs, or do you want them fixed?
Don't expect all bugs to be fixed by doing a ROM upgrade, though. ROMS are made by humans, and we make mistakes. Of course new bugs can be introduced as well, but unless these new bugs are very bad and a lot of users are experiencing them, I see no reason to run an old buggy version.
Seems they've replaced the old tired bugs with new and improved ones! I have finally stabilised my JAM on the 1.06 ROM after much pain. I am still not convinced that the 1.11 is any better since some people claim its better and some claim its much worse. In other words, there is little consensus.
BTW, I don't accept the human factor as an excuse for lingering bugs. I am not a beta tester and I don't wish to use beta products. Once maybe, twice is pushing it, but three ROMs and still no sign of fixes for the fundamental problems is unacceptable. My phone is unreliable and if I don't get it sorted soon I will be back on a Nokia / Blackberry combination (quite a step backward in my opinion).
All I want is a stable working ROM that allows me to hear calls when I make them, to hang up when I hang up, and to connect and disconnect to GPRS when I need to and to put an end to soft reseting all the time! Unit and regression testing as part of a typical QA process should kill off 90% of bugs either new or old.
The problem is that in the rush to market HTC/Imate have obviously failed to complete a proper QA cycle prior to release. Their QA is terrible.
ianwood, what are these numerous bugs that you're referring to?
I'm heavily using my JAM on a daily basis. I was very cautious and selective on what 3rd party software I install. I had some 3rd party software that f*cks up my JAM completely (JGUI's for example), but now I have a list of software that WORKS WELL TOGETHER and don't have any problems. I never do a soft reset and the JAM behaves exactly how I want it.
We also have to distinguish between 3rd party software bugs, Windows bugs and HTC flaws.
The same bugs that everyone else refers to:
Intermittent:
GPRS not being able to resume after a call
Answering call fails with "unable to answer call" message
Hanging up fails with service command error message
ActiveSync becoming unresponsive when syncing
BT not installed errors
Unresolved items in ActiveSync when there is no conflict
Constant:
Heavy static on calls
Sound quality is crap (worse than the old T68s)
Speakerphone is also crap
Camera is slooooooow and picture quality is mediocre
BT headset drops after 15 minutes
Several reputable today plugins just don't work
BTW, I have very little installed on the thing. GPRS Monitor, a couple of simple games, Resco, Skype, TomTom. The rest are I-Mate default apps.
Let's face it; I am not the only one to have an issue with this thing.
MS, Imate, HTC, et all need to wake up and realise they will continue to be a footnote in mobile until they get this stuff sorted out! Let's hope WM5 will be better -- too bad we might not get it on our JAMs.
Some problems just not related to the Rom itself. I am using 1.11 rom
ianwood said:
The same bugs that everyone else refers to:
Intermittent:
GPRS not being able to resume after a call (I don't have GPRS)
Answering call fails with "unable to answer call" message (never happen to me)
Hanging up fails with service command error message (never happen to me)
ActiveSync becoming unresponsive when syncing (never happen to me too)
BT not installed errors (Yes! But not anymore after 1.11 rom)
Unresolved items in ActiveSync when there is no conflict (blame stupid MS)
Constant:
Heavy static on calls (sometimes)
Sound quality is crap (worse than the old T68s) (Ok for me)
Speakerphone is also crap (I agree)
Camera is slooooooow and picture quality is mediocre (I agree)
BT headset drops after 15 minutes (not in my case for my HBH 600, even 30+ mins still ok)
Several reputable today plugins just don't work <- This is the plugin's problem. All my plugins works without problem (SBSH's Pocket Breeze, Marware's Pocket Weather and PocketMax's Phone Alarm)
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ianwood said:
The same bugs that everyone else refers to:
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I had some of those when I first got my Magician, but haven't seen any of them since upgrading to 1.06.
Intermittent:
GPRS not being able to resume after a call - Constant, but fixed in the Norwegian.
Answering call fails with "unable to answer call" message - Never happened to me.
Hanging up fails with service command error message - Never happened to me.
ActiveSync becoming unresponsive when syncing - Agree.
BT not installed errors - Never in 1.11, but only in 1.06.
Unresolved items in ActiveSync when there is no conflict - Constant.
Constant:
Heavy static on calls - Never happened to me.
Sound quality is crap (worse than the old T68s) - No.
Speakerphone is also crap - No.
Camera is slooooooow and picture quality is mediocre - As in all ROMs.
BT headset drops after 15 minutes - Haven't got a headset, but BT GPS stays connected hour after hour.
Several reputable today plugins just don't work - Name one. I haven't had one single problem and I use many.
Let's face it; I am not the only one to have an issue with this thing. - And there are lots of users that think that it's more stable than 1.06.
MS, Imate, HTC, et all need to wake up and realise they will continue to be a footnote in mobile until they get this stuff sorted out! Let's hope WM5 will be better -- too bad we might not get it on our JAMs. - Oh yeah.. I've worked with QA and I woudn't have released even the 1.11 as 1.0! Terrible!
any one else getting it? unit goes in to standby and then wont wake up you have to soft reset.
ive been getting it frequently very anoying im using the big storage rom i dont rember who made it i can find out of some one wants to know
but is any one else having problems like me?
No problems here. I'm using the clean 1978 ROM...
I had it happen yesterday, running the stock AT&T ROM.
Hi
No problems here either.
It's worth remembering the phone wakes itself up about once an hour, although the display is dark so you will not see this happening.
If you have installed some software that doesn't handle this switching on very well and it crashes the phone, it will look the phone has died in standby, but it probably hasn't, it just looks that way.
I would advise a clean reset and not to install any programs, and see if it happens again. If it does your phone may be faulty, for example a memory problem that surfaces when the phone goes into a low power state.
Regards
Phil
Mine SOD'ed last night. I was using the phone, turned the screen off using the power button, then plugged it into my computer USB to charge. I was trying to do it one-handed and as you could imagine I was fiddling with the cable/phone for 30 seconds before I got the mini-usb plug into the phone. I watched to see the charging light come on but it didn't. I then tried to turn on the phone and realized I was SOD'ed. It only happens to me once every 1-2 weeks. My phone runs the stock Tilt ROM, but with lots of custom cabs installed, ie:
HTC Home 6 button
HTC Taskmanager 2.0 30995
Skype
Color Dot battery indicator
Schaps 10 Button Comm manager
PocketCM
Funambol 6.5.4
I push my phone all day long, surfing, ssh'ing into servers with putty, imap email, playing music etc, and I think if there was a bad memory issue Id see something other than an SOD. IMHO,theres a bug in the power management software.
SOD happened on my Tilt too. Im runnig the ATT rom. I had the same problem with the 8525 with the earlier ROM. The problem is IMAP email push. IF you use IMAP there is a chance you will get SOD once in a while. I changed all my emails to POP3 never had SOD since then.
I think you guys have to run the kaiser tweek to turn off the sleep mode in the registry. I had the SOD once....forgot to modify the registry via the kaisertweak app. 1st 2 options i think is what you have to modify.....that should fix you guys up.
Happened With Me too !!!
Now after using my at&t tilt flashed with HTC stock rom for 5 days, suddenly today my device suffered from a SOD.... had to soft-reset.... tried to figure out what went wrong but without any luck..... do any of u guys figured out the cause.... Kaiser Tweak only allows us to disable the sleep mode during call.....
kaiser falling sleep happens to me so frequently that I read all the posts with the key words KAISER FREEZE on xda-developers.
The only solution seems to power off and on again.
On modaco.com somebody posted a small applet which does automatically the power on-off for you.
Of course this does not remove the problem, just hide it...
Additionally I have tried 4 different WWE ROMS! from Att to HTC original ROMS to cooked Helmi aka 0.7.0 etc... No way to solve.
Please if modifying the registry can solve, can somebody post the link for kaiser tweaks and possibly the application?
Thanks
Saulo866
I think it might have something to do with Windows Live Maps program. This happend to me everytime I was using the program in the background. I upgraded the version and it stopped the problem I was having.
hollywood said:
I think it might have something to do with Windows Live Maps program. This happend to me everytime I was using the program in the background. I upgraded the version and it stopped the problem I was having.
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Same here... I upgraded to helmi_c's Tilt ROM and haven't had the problem since. Pretty much guarantted though, if you leave Live Search running in the background and your phone goes to sleep... it will not wake up with the stock ATT ROM (at least with the current version of Live Search).
Cheers!!
SOD has typical been associated with running programs off of a Storage card. I had tons of SOD problems with the early WM6 Hermes ROMs. So far I have only had SOD a few times on my Tilt (running austinsync's BigStorage ROM). I installed Google maps to my microSD and within 20 minutes had 3 SODs. I uninstalled it and they stoppped immediately (Live Search is way better anyway).
I would recommend installing any programs that you use heavily or leave running onto the main memory. Also, saving attachments to a storage card has been a known cause as well.
I think SOD issues will get better as more ROMs start coming out for the Kaiser (and the chefs keep cooking).
OK, this keeps happening to me with the AT&T ROM....today it happened with no programs running in the background, anybody figure out a solution yet?
Me too
well I've had this problem also while running my own cooked rom, however to be fair i had this problem in the early days of the hermes. I thought however that the hermes problem was related to activesync's push email and the data connection (i.e. switching between 3G and 2G alot making activesync trip out) That all said maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree?!
Oh just in case anyone as the time to investgate this problem, I do know the Toshiba G900 had alot of problems with SOD inwhich tosh releases a fix for...... maybe if someone was to look at what that fixed it could help us here? have a read here > www.my900.com
Kaiser won't power back up
My unit after reset won't either power up or down with the power button. Everything still functions.
I found that if I have the power charger connected it works fine, so I thought I had a weak battery. Got a new battery and same thing.
Don't know what's going on, but if you do a soft reset with the charger plugged in, it will reset fine.
Hope someone figures this out!
Be careful overconfiguring...
PhilipL said:
Hi
No problems here either.
It's worth remembering the phone wakes itself up about once an hour, although the display is dark so you will not see this happening.
If you have installed some software that doesn't handle this switching on very well and it crashes the phone, it will look the phone has died in standby, but it probably hasn't, it just looks that way.
I would advise a clean reset and not to install any programs, and see if it happens again. If it does your phone may be faulty, for example a memory problem that surfaces when the phone goes into a low power state.
Regards
Phil
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This might be the case, but I tried calling my phone when it SOD'd and didn't get a ring (it rang on the phone I was calling from.) I bet the problem is installed programs conflicting somehow, maybe kaisertweak will fix it in the future.
I can't guess what causes it tho...
For now, I'm running Kyphur's XDA Live and it has yet to happen.
PocketCM
rotohammer said:
Mine SOD'ed last night. I was using the phone, turned the screen off using the power button, then plugged it into my computer USB to charge. I was trying to do it one-handed and as you could imagine I was fiddling with the cable/phone for 30 seconds before I got the mini-usb plug into the phone. I watched to see the charging light come on but it didn't. I then tried to turn on the phone and realized I was SOD'ed. It only happens to me once every 1-2 weeks. My phone runs the stock Tilt ROM, but with lots of custom cabs installed, ie:
HTC Home 6 button
HTC Taskmanager 2.0 30995
Skype
Color Dot battery indicator
Schaps 10 Button Comm manager
PocketCM
Funambol 6.5.4
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I was running Kypher's Tilt XDA-Live v 1.0 (AWSOME) with several custom cabs including PocketCM and was getting the SOD every time. I wiped the phone and started adding all of my cabs one at a time and all of them are loaded back in except PocketCM and since then i have not seen a single SOD.
Tim
I've noticed that I get the SOD a LOT more when I have bluetooth active. Not sure if that's just coincidental but literally the only time I've noticed the SOD has been when I've had BT enabled.
Happens to me a few times a week very annoying.
Well, I don't do emails, use Windows live, have pocketCM, used my bluetooth, tried Google maps, or have any programs on my sd card (basically whatever you all mentioned above, I don't have or do!), and still get SOD. So I guess I start backtracking. Sigh...
tilt with xda Live
I have been tweaking and testing different programs, radios etc and I am now extremely happy with my TP performance. Thanks to everyone on the board that has helped on my quest for the ultimate device!
Matt
Hey Matt,
please post your tweaks and programs to help US out too!
thanks!
Do yourself a favor, and BACK UP everything on your phone, so if you have to hard reset, you won't have to spend another 7 months tweaking everything back the way you had it.
When I installed the "test rom", after 12 hours of getting it all the way I wanted, I screwed around with the TP2 TF3D and didn't like it, hard reset, then restored everything back the way it was in less than 1/2 hour.
laft2k said:
I have been tweaking and testing different programs, radios etc and I am now extremely happy with my TP performance. Thanks to everyone on the board that has helped on my quest for the ultimate device!
Matt
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Congrats, after 4 months, 4 custom roms, on 3 TP's im finally happy and bug free with everything i want (except the damn galarm/s2u2 bug).
What are you running?
Everything is backed up and clean
I am running
ROM 1.90.161.5 WWE
Radio 1.02.25.28
Advanced Config
S2U2
SPB Time
SKSchema which I have programed to check my email every hour. Stock client never worked. And also soft reset every night to keep it fresh
TomTom7
GPS Test
Resco File Explorer and Reg Edit
Torch Button
AEB Plus
I am running the GPS tweaks cab which deletes the GPS log and turns off agps. I get a lock on tomtom in about 10 secs stationary and 30 secs moving
Also turned off face down mute as it really annoyed me.
Data connection terminates after 30 secs of inactivity
I imported some smart touch reg keys so I can use the scroll wheel for phone, contacts, programs etc...
Applied all the power settings in advance config
a couple of other minor tweaks which dont affect performance but make it easier for me.
And thats about it.
Matt
I would suggest so many more apps, but i dont want to mess up the good thing you have going.
Id drop touch button and get Htorch.....for sure
YL Groper said:
Congrats, after 4 months, 4 custom roms, on 3 TP's im finally happy and bug free with everything i want (except the damn galarm/s2u2 bug).
What are you running?
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What is the galarm/s2u2 bug you speak of? I use both and haven't experienced any issues...
laft2k said:
I have been tweaking and testing different programs, radios etc and I am now extremely happy with my TP performance. Thanks to everyone on the board that has helped on my quest for the ultimate device!
Matt
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Good for you! At least someone is happy with their TP.
I bought my in August last year and I was quite thrilled the first 2-3 weeks. But then it only got frustrating... I'm trying to avoid any custom ROMs and radios (I'm not too skilled in flashing + I'd like to keep the warranty) so I only experimented with tweaks and appls. Although in my opinion the device should work fine with the ROM provided by the manufacturer, eh?
Anyway, I'm so frustrated with this piece of c**p - I had to send it back for repair twice already. Now I'm actually hoping that two more faults will occur so I could claim my money back.
Just some of the issues I've been having since I bought it:
- TF3D freezes a couple of times a day
- ringer delay (even with the WM default dialer)
- emails are not coming in (even though I set the client to check them every 2 hours)
- GPS is a disaster! (100-200m lag, fix takes a long time even with QuickGPS and clear sky)
- sound occasionaly not working during alarms (making it very unreliable)
- generally very slow performance of the device (especially TF3D is laggy as hell)
- ActiveSync (with Outlook) stops working without any apparent reason (no changes were made neither on the computer nor on TP)
- and many many more...
I just wondered if your tweaks were able to fix some of those mentioned above? Although I have already decided to get rid of TP as soon as possible I can give it another chance...
Anyway, I hope you will enjoy your TP for a long time ;-)
YL Groper said:
I would suggest so many more apps, but i dont want to mess up the good thing you have going.
Id drop touch button and get Htorch.....for sure
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Torch button does exactly what i want, turns on and off with one button press. Re-maped to my left softkey, Perfect.
I had loads of other apps but they were point;ess for me. I have everythig i need. I went through a stage of having loads of apps. But never used them. I prefer the minimal faster TP that works
ferus said:
Just some of the issues I've been having since I bought it:
- TF3D freezes a couple of times a day
- ringer delay (even with the WM default dialer)
- emails are not coming in (even though I set the client to check them every 2 hours)
- GPS is a disaster! (100-200m lag, fix takes a long time even with QuickGPS and clear sky)
- sound occasionaly not working during alarms (making it very unreliable)
- generally very slow performance of the device (especially TF3D is laggy as hell)
- ActiveSync (with Outlook) stops working without any apparent reason (no changes were made neither on the computer nor on TP)
- and many many more...
I just wondered if your tweaks were able to fix some of those mentioned above? Although I have already decided to get rid of TP as soon as possible I can give it another chance...
Anyway, I hope you will enjoy your TP for a long time ;-)
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Hi Ferus, with regards to TF3D, i ditched it, it wasd useless. I much prefer S2U2 and the default WM today screen
E-mails is where i had the most trouble. I use skschema to check my mail every hour. Works perfectly. I spent ages trying to find a fix. the script is #r(/windows/tmail.exe) #p(-service"youraccountname" -sync) just replace your account name with the exact name of your email account for example mine is "Yahoo!" Now this only works if the device is not locked using the built in locking as it brings the mail app to the foreground. works perfectly with s2u2 though.
Flashing my radio to the one above helped loads with GPS, also applying the gps tweaks cab really makes a difference.
Alarms was a problem i had with all my wm phones. This is now overcome using spb time. never had a missed alarm. sound also goes off if phone is silent
I dont have a problem with performance. I reccomend getting rid of TF3D.
I havent hadf any problems with Activ sync so cant help im afraid.
ferus said:
Good for you! At least someone is happy with their TP.
I bought my in August last year and I was quite thrilled the first 2-3 weeks. But then it only got frustrating... I'm trying to avoid any custom ROMs and radios (I'm not too skilled in flashing + I'd like to keep the warranty) so I only experimented with tweaks and appls. Although in my opinion the device should work fine with the ROM provided by the manufacturer, eh?
Anyway, I'm so frustrated with this piece of c**p - I had to send it back for repair twice already. Now I'm actually hoping that two more faults will occur so I could claim my money back.
Just some of the issues I've been having since I bought it:
- TF3D freezes a couple of times a day
- ringer delay (even with the WM default dialer)
- emails are not coming in (even though I set the client to check them every 2 hours)
- GPS is a disaster! (100-200m lag, fix takes a long time even with QuickGPS and clear sky)
- sound occasionaly not working during alarms (making it very unreliable)
- generally very slow performance of the device (especially TF3D is laggy as hell)
- ActiveSync (with Outlook) stops working without any apparent reason (no changes were made neither on the computer nor on TP)
- and many many more...
I just wondered if your tweaks were able to fix some of those mentioned above? Although I have already decided to get rid of TP as soon as possible I can give it another chance...
Anyway, I hope you will enjoy your TP for a long time ;-)
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Ferrus,
Relating to the 'freezes several times a day', i used to get that, albiet, freezing once every 4 days when i received a text. After flashing to the latest HTC ROM (updated version) over a month ago, i haven't had a crash since.
M
ferus:
I know you said you didn't want to flash a different ROM, but if you can wait a little longer hopefully AT&T will release their update for us.
There is a leaked test ROM upgrade here that fixes TONS of bugs, greatly speeds up the device, AND make GPS better (fast fixes with working aGPS...if you have data). The lag is still there, but not as bad as it was in the beginning.
The new radio in that ROM is leaps and bounds better than the stock radio.
If you need any warranty work done, you'll probably have to flash back to the stock ROM...unless they release the final version of this test one before then.
mlin said:
What is the galarm/s2u2 bug you speak of? I use both and haven't experienced any issues...
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Some are lucky
Here is my problem
http://forum.ageye.de/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=401&sid=5f608e68da8859da1ad4118d7ccb0cd6
ferus said:
Good for you! At least someone is happy with their TP.
I bought my in August last year and I was quite thrilled the first 2-3 weeks. But then it only got frustrating... I'm trying to avoid any custom ROMs and radios (I'm not too skilled in flashing + I'd like to keep the warranty) so I only experimented with tweaks and appls. Although in my opinion the device should work fine with the ROM provided by the manufacturer, eh?
Anyway, I'm so frustrated with this piece of c**p - I had to send it back for repair twice already. Now I'm actually hoping that two more faults will occur so I could claim my money back.
Just some of the issues I've been having since I bought it:
- TF3D freezes a couple of times a day
- ringer delay (even with the WM default dialer)
- emails are not coming in (even though I set the client to check them every 2 hours)
- GPS is a disaster! (100-200m lag, fix takes a long time even with QuickGPS and clear sky)
- sound occasionaly not working during alarms (making it very unreliable)
- generally very slow performance of the device (especially TF3D is laggy as hell)
- ActiveSync (with Outlook) stops working without any apparent reason (no changes were made neither on the computer nor on TP)
- and many many more...
I just wondered if your tweaks were able to fix some of those mentioned above? Although I have already decided to get rid of TP as soon as possible I can give it another chance...
Anyway, I hope you will enjoy your TP for a long time ;-)
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I had similar experiences until I used cooked roms. If you want a good stable rom I would try Might Mike's, or Juicy's... I had similar issues to most of your and they were all solved with a fresh rom. TF3D is zippy and sweet and I have pretty much solved them.
As far as the GPS... that was solved by updating to the 1.11 sprint radio. I lock on in less than 20 secs every time now. Not sure that will work for the ATT. Not sure if ATT is CDMA. I am sure there are some ATT compatible ones that would also solve your issues.
Thanks for all the answers and tips The whole weekend I was struggling with my TP and finally I decided to go through with a ROM flash.
Someone suggested some ROMs already but I was wondering if you can recommend me a stable, quick and responsive (kind of a the-less-apps-the-better kind of ROM)?
I'm about to browse through the ROM forum but I'm afraid it contains TOO MUCH information. So I would appreciate any suggestions.
I use my TP as a normal PDA user (phone, email, internet, GPS, IM are the most used features).
Thanks in advance, I hope I can finally get a decent PDA ;-)
laft2k said:
Everything is backed up and clean
I am running the GPS tweaks cab which deletes the GPS log and turns off agps. I get a lock on tomtom in about 10 secs stationary and 30 secs moving
And thats about it.
Matt
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Hi.
Mind sharing how can I get the above cab?
I am having problems with a Sprint HTC TP2 after doing the 6.1 to 6.5 upgrade. I have had it into Sprint repair twice and hard reset it about 6 times. There are two problems I am encountering:
1) for about 2 minutes to 30 minutes at a time I cannot turn the unit on. The flashing green light is out during this time. I can call the phone and it wakes up, but you cannot wake it with any of the buttons. The reset button does not work either. You can pull the battery and that will reset it. Sometimes in this phase the white light behind the hard keys will light if you pull out the stylus, not always.
2) at random times the phone software gets really slow. For example, the flippity floppty clock animation will hang up and not move for 30-60 seconds, then it will move a little and eventually it will catch up. Other apps will do similar things, the clock is the obvious because of the animations.
This has occurred even right after a hard reset, within a few minutes. With no additional apps loaded (as Sprint told me the first time that was the problem.)
Sprint unofficially told me to downgrade it back to 6.1 using a variety of websites to follow, and officially told me to contact HTC support and gave me their 800 number.
Thoughts? Anyone else having this problem? Advice?
Being a Sprint corporate employee at a service and repair center, continue to go into the store if it is convenient for you to do so. Every eTicket they create builds a case for them to replace your TP2 with a new one. I would strongly suggest using Microsoft MyPhone to back up your information so if they do swap you out, you just need to log into MyPhone and sync your information.
The issue is with Sense
I experienced the same issues with the Sleep of Death in the device and had to remove the batteries everytime I finished a call. I got tired so I reflashed the phone, set it up and hard reset it again.
The problem persisted. I would have to click on the windows buttom and then could not click on the Today or Settings tab( I woud just hang there!) Then I disabled the SENSE UI and worked with the 6.5 default settings and no more lockup issues. Also, installed SPB Mobile Shell and it worked for 3 days without issues.
This makes me suspect the SENSE and HTC apps are causing the lockups. I am interested if other people are experiencing these issues. I installed MAX Manilla 2.5 two days ago and the device seesm to be stable. The only time I have issues is when I update the contact tab. It locks up, but that is not a function of Max Manilla but the core HTC contact app.
Had my phone for a week with Sense 2.5 and WM 6.5, stock. No problems like the ones mentioned in the thread yet...
It all depends on what you use your phone for. Try my ROM, see link below...
Sprint 6.5 Rom issues
There have actually been some similar issues with the new sprint 6.5 however, not to the extent of the phone having actually been stuck in sleep mode. Some things I can recommend that may help is to check your task manager frequently because programs don't fully close when you exit out of them. In addition to this you should consider installing cleanram which helps clear up memory. I’m not allowed to post the link because I’m still a new member however just follow this thread...
xda-developers > Windows Mobile Development and Hacking > Windows Mobile Apps and Games
[APP]htcAddicts - cleanRAM v2.1 (RAM Cleaner)
Also, there seems to be an issue with the manila 2.5 sense and the htc clock, if you have the htc clock open it can run sluggish at times..But I recommend that you pull up you quick tabs and minimize your htc clock for the sense 2.5 to run faster. Lastly keep the stock plain black screen saver because if you use a custom or different background the system can run slower.
I too also have the sprint tp2, and the 6.1 rom is considered to be one of the fastest and most stable rom for cdma tp2s. However, the downfall is the downgrade :/...
I have also worked for sprint corporate repair center, what might help and save you time before going to the repair center would be to call the technical support to see if they could solve your issue. Because by doing this a ticket is already created and the tech will be able to see the troubleshooting that was done. In addition to this repairs can be difficult and frustrating at times due to the fact that the problem that you’re having must be repeatable in order for sprint to repair or replace your phone (it really depends on the repair center). If you find that you continue to have errors with your sprint 6.5 rom, I would recommend trying other Roms to see if the issue is in fact the rom or the device...
Hope this can help!
-am
Sprint 6.5
Thank you for the good advice. I took my device into a store and they did the usual hard reset ( cannot reproduce the issue) process. I sat there and activesynched with Exchange server , made a call and had the phone locked up two times. I do have over 1000 contacts in my list ( Business, clients and my consultants!)
The tech said he had never seen this issue and ordered me a new device.I use the Clean Ram and task manager programs. I also ran a process explorer in the device and it finds Manilla to be the culprid of the issues. So I have installed Mobile Shell and am using that until my replacement arrives.
As I sat in the store there were 4 people with HTC TP2 with unresponsive screens. All 6.5 roms.
Sprint WM6.5
I have no idea what all the hype was about or what I'm missing in this upgrade. IT'S HORRIBLE!!! It's almost 10% cosmetic and 90% buggy. In my opinion, WM6.1 was stable, fast, and professional looking. The upgrade has done nothing for me in terms of productivity. It has turned my phone into a cartoonish, VERY sluggish, and a freeze worthy POS!!! I despise this upgrade, the colors, the themes, and most of--the stupid, sloppy, rolodex-like clock.
Anyone know where I could find the necessary information to 'downgrade' back to WM6.1???
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I have no idea what all the hype was about or what I'm missing in this upgrade. IT'S HORRIBLE!!! It's almost 10% cosmetic and 90% buggy. In my opinion, WM6.1 was stable, fast, and professional looking. The upgrade has done nothing for me in terms of productivity. It has turned my phone into a cartoonish, VERY sluggish, and a freeze worthy POS!!! I despise this upgrade, the colors, the themes, and most of--the stupid, sloppy, rolodex-like clock.
Anyone know where I could find the necessary information to 'downgrade' back to WM6.1???
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WM6.1 is always faster than WM6.5. Besides WM6.1 has sense 2.1, which is faster than sense 2.5.
Downgrade 6.1
PPC geeks has the stock roms...
I still cant post links yet :/ but goto PPC geeks..then click on forums..from there scroll down to where it says htc device and click on touch pro 2...then click on cdma tp2 upgrades...then scroll down nd you should see a forum thread that says STOCK ROM collections..once u click that it provides u a link for the sprint 6.1 rom and many others...hope this can help!
-am
Hi there!
I've contacted nvidia regarding this issue (reps seems oblivious) and posted it on their official forums to no avail, so I'll try and give it a shot here.
Basically whenever my tablet connects to WiFi after being disconnected for some time (a few hours to a few days), the tablet freezes when it downloads notifications. The freezes can be minimal (like a 5 second freeze) or be quiet substantial (it can lock up for as long as 10 mins). Once all notifications are downloaded and displayed, the tablet then performs like a charm. I even got my tablet replaced from nvidia and it has the same problem as the one I sent in. Uninstalling Facebook and Facebook Messenger improves performance drastically, but when my tablet checks for notifications it freezes still freezes for a few seconds (with Facebook installed, it could lock up for 10 mins and crash the launcher multiple times). Running on max performance did nothing. I'm really curious if this is a hardware or software issue since some people doesn't seem to have this problem.
I'm running on nvidia's stock firmware (4.2) unrooted.
So here is my question. Have any of you guys experienced this problem? Were you able to solve it? How did you solve it (did a custom rom solve this)?
The main reason why I haven't installed a custom rom yet is because I use the stylus frequently and I use the touch-block feature in nvidia's stock roms and couldn't find ports of it.
Here is a video of the issue. (youtube.com/watch?v=cJrUPV7mY6s) Now there are a lot of widgets on the video, but I assure you removing all of them does nothing. I tried.
Facebook Messenger. That says it all. What other apps have you running in the background?
This definitely sounds like a software issue to me.
Maybe you're being hijacked. Who knows.
I've had this same issues since I got the tablet (K1). System reset, no non-Google apps. Happens regardless of FW; I'm on the latest update. Don't be quick to blame the OP.
Basically, every time the tablet gets a new network connection, the system hangs and becomes unresponsive for 10 seconds to 2 minutes at a time. It's obvious that it's updating all the apps' network requests. However, the thread priority should make the system hang. I've only seen this issue on the K1; never on any other Android device. Either they're using a custom network stack, or they've messed with networking priorities.
I'm on the latest update
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Of Facebook Messenger? Or OS? Or all apps?
Either way, it makes no matter no such issues on Lollipop. I am just saying.