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Wizard won't remain OFF when USB connected?

I'm running Faria's final edition of WM6 on my Wizard, pretty much stock except for mun's keyboard and a few apps. This rom is almost perfect for my needs.
The only problem is that when the wizard is connected to my computer USB port to charge, it won't go to sleep... In fact, if I press the power button, it turns off for maybe a minute then turns right back on again!
I searched the forums looking for an answer and came up with very little. I do recall seeing some tips for preventing this behavior several months ago but can't seem to find the post anymore (???).
Actually I had this issue fixed on this rom at one time, but then I went and re-flashed about 20 times, trying all the latest cooked versions out there before returning to Faria's. But now I can't recall the fix for the power-on problem!
So, could someone help me out and re-post the fix?
Many thanks in advance...

Don't know of a fix, but this happened to me also when using Faria's ROM and still happens now using the NBD ROM.

Have same problem with Core 2.0n

Same with my XDA ROM. I thought thats a WM6 feature that I have to live with.

It's a common problem then...
Ok, this sounds like a common problem then.
I've been thinking about it, and if I recall, I think the posted fix might have been from mrfrazz or dr puttingham... I'll try to PM them (not that they know me) and see if I can get them onto the thread....

Wasn't from me.

Ok thanks for that mrfrazzz.
How many folks have this problem? Does anyone have a fix?

Sorry, not from me either.

remove the pin password (start -> settings -> lock). used to solve this problem for me on older WM6 rom's. Don't know if the problem still exists in the newer roms...

nbd 7.4 has this problem and also wm6 business edition.

I am using the Dopod Pro 838 [Mobile 5] and have the same issue, when connected it does not sleep, no matter how many times I close the screen off

Thanks everyone for chiming in. So this is a widespread problem.
Is there a solution? Or is everyone just living with it?

For what it's worth, I've searched and searched and can't find that post with the solution. The only reason I can think of is that the post was removed. (?)
Oh well. I guess I'm going to have to live with it like everyone else until an answer turns up. If anyone has any info or ideas post here and we'll try it out.

WM6 TNT 3.0.... same problem

settings, system, backlight settings?
i'm using an enhanced xm6 and i don't seem to have this problem when i charge with the usb at work (no activesync installation). perhaps you may need to disable that, because i recall reading somewhere that activesync tends to wake the phone from time to time to constantly resync pim information.
if you don't like the backlight on, you can go to settings, system, backlight, and change the settings there. I know on faria's roms, the backlight goes off after some time, even when it's plugged into the usb. t-mobile's default rom and the one i'm currently using don't turn off, unless i hit the power button. (but unlike what was initially stated, my phone doesn't turn back on).
or in case i've misinterpreted something...i recall reading that in some roms, the phone would keep waking up due to the push service and it would require some combination of locking the phone to get it working. in those cases, i believe you have to read the respective rom thread. i know farias "the real thing" thread has info on it.

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll look into somehow getting better control over activesync.
Yeah, that's about where I'm at, just turning off the backlight and pretending the phone is off. But it still kind of irks me, all I want is for the phone to sync then go to sleep until I need it. And stay off when I hit the sleep button...

I've had this problem forever, and I consider it a "problem" because my phone is overclocked to 273, and I'd like to keep it off to keep the temperature down. It's definetly not a rom issue, but like someone else stated, it's an activesync issue. Even disabling sync options on activesync doesn't seem to help, only thing I can think of is uninstalling activesync, but who the hell wants to do that? Maybe preventing activesync from starting or running in the background on windows start, until you want to open activesync manually?

This is the random wake-up problem that first apeared in some build of WM5 (I guess). I too can't find much info on it but I guess you could remove the pin prompting. It happens due to activesync/wmdc and usb connection while the pin is enabled. I guess this is a bug in WM6 which is yet to be fixed. Hope microsoft and WM6 team reads this thread.
May be end tasking activesync in both phone and system will help. I haven't tried as I live with it and is not an issue for me.

with PhoneAlarm there is an option to disable the ActiveSync scheduling within a profile (eg profile work no ActiveSync, while ActiveSync will still be usable at home)
Maybe this can help you?
btw, PhoneAlarm has some other very nice features, it's still my nr 1 app for the wizard!

Sound Issues - Not Radio related!

Hi,
Is anybody else experiencing issues with losing sound on their phone? I have been experiencing this on a number of different roms and initially put it down to an incompatible radio, but I have sinced flashed back to one of Dutty's roms (including radio) and it happened again. I have now flashed back to the stock bootloader and HTC rom and it has happened again!
I am at a bit of a loss now - am in the process of hard resetting my phone to see if it happens on a bare device as I had a number of apps installed although none of them had caused this problem before that I am aware.
Would be interesting to know if anyone else is getting this - don't know if its possible that any of the recent radio/rom releases could have done something permanently damaging to cause this. Will be sending mine back to HTC if it happens again, unless someone identifies a fix?!?
Cheers!

captainsensible2002 said:
Hi,
Is anybody else experiencing issues with losing sound on their phone? I have been experiencing this on a number of different roms and initially put it down to an incompatible radio, but I have sinced flashed back to one of Dutty's roms (including radio) and it happened again. I have now flashed back to the stock bootloader and HTC rom and it has happened again!
I am at a bit of a loss now - am in the process of hard resetting my phone to see if it happens on a bare device as I had a number of apps installed although none of them had caused this problem before that I am aware.
Would be interesting to know if anyone else is getting this - don't know if its possible that any of the recent radio/rom releases could have done something permanently damaging to cause this. Will be sending mine back to HTC if it happens again, unless someone identifies a fix?!?
Cheers!
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happened to me yesterday. i had to hard reset and my phone still isn't customized 24hrs later.

Do you remember what apps you had installed?

I'm starting to think all of this has something to do with MSVC.

well i have consistently been using version 19209 whilst having these problems. Going to try 17913 again and see how that goes.

Mine too
I've been getting this alot lately, too. I think it's either MS VC or S2U2 1.01, or a combination of them.
I've done the same thing, flashed multiple ROMS and radios, but I've stayed in the WM6.1 family. I was running Confused Stu's Vista 1.2 forever and it suddenly started doing that - loosing sound. I went to 1.3 and then over to a Dutty build, and have now settled on L26_WM6.1_PROV4_(3.51.502.0_WWE)_Multimedia... This time I went slow and only loaded a few apps at a time. I thought it was Calendar+... But I don't have that on here yet.
It seems like it ran fine until I put S2U2 on here, but like I say, I use MS VC to announce everything so maybe it's some action there that didn't happen until after I put s2u2 on there, or maybe coincidence.
I wonder if anyone else is seeing this? I think I'll start over without S2U2 - even tho it rocks! - and chill a week.
Do you use S2U2? Do you use Caller ID in S2U2? How about slide 2 answer, slide 2 end key options? What about blank screen on talk option?
Thanks,
H

s2u2 v1.01 could be the culprit as i have been using it. After slowly reloading apps this morning sound had gone again, and one of the last to go on was s2u2. I don't think MSVC is the problem as it has never done it before plus its cooked into a lot of new roms, whereas s2u2 isn't. Am going to uninstall s2u2 and see what happens. It was one of the last things I put on and sound had been stable before that.

Im getting this issue as well, what radio are you guys running just out of interest, im running duttys 6.1 build 19199 with radio 1.65.14.06

I haved the same problem and resolve it by flash ing TNT 19202 Series PRO with radio 1.65.14.06. Best regards.

Well, the issue came back on the stock rom when I bit the bullet and installed a slightly older version of S2U2 (0.99p)!
I have now reflashed Hard-SPL and the latest Dutty Rom (with MSVC included) and have resisted putting S2U2 on and so far, so good!!

Hey, Zaf, do you run S2U2 or MS VC?
I flashed back to the AT&T Tilt stock ROM (downloaded from HTC web site, incl the radio) and reloaded S2U2 1.01 and MS VC. I lost sound within a couple of hours.
I did a hard reset and have not installed EITHER... I plan to run for a day like this, then put MS VC back on for the weekend, and then S2U2 after that.
I think it's S2U2 and I think it's been around since .99p. But I think 1.01 is worse than .99p or 1.0.
Well, at least we're narrowing down the variables!

Hey, everyone - watch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390977
for a similar discussion.

I flashed TNT 19202 Pro thus morning and the sound died few hours later again... Don't use S2U2. I posted more here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2207600&postcount=18

I have lost sound 3 times, it is only through the speaker though, my bluetooth headset continues to work. Once I flashed a new rom to fix it, the other time it fixed itself over a few hours. The third time is happening now!
I have never used S2U so it can't be that. Have been using Dutty's roms, my radio is currently 1.58.16.27.

are we talking about sound in calls, if so i have been experiencing calls dropping and other people can hear me fine but then it suddenly goes quiet for the other caller and they can barely hear me? is this a fault with my kaiser or to do with flashing with custom ROMs.

I think we need to be very clear here what the symptoms are of a specific problem.
My symptoms were that sound would initially be ok after flashing a new ROM (whether it had MSVC cooked in or not) and then I would go through the process of installing my 'regular' apps which has always included S2U2.
Then, at some point after doing this, all sound would disappear - from the device and also during calls (interestingly, during calls, the other party could not hear me either).
I cannot explain for one moment the issues that people who don't use MSVC/S2U2 - some of these might be explainable by radio issues but I am not an expert by any means so would not be prepared to blame that!
All I know for certain is that up until recently I could use MSVC 1.6 build 17913 alongside S2U2 0.99 with NO issues at all - this is why I think that MSVC 19209 combined with S2U2 is the reason.
One other thing, I have not tried S2U2 on its own, without using MSVC, mainly because I am fed up with flashing! Perhaps someone else could confirm or deny if this has caused problems?!?

Yes, my symptoms are EXACTLY as the captain describes in his post... Everything fine for a little while after flashing, but soon after I get all my apps reloaded I call someone, or someone calls me, and there is no sound. No audio at all from the speaker, bluetooth, or in-call speaker. The caller can't hear me, either. I have to soft reset or power cycle to get sound back but it doesn't last long.
All day I've run with the AT&T stock tilt ROM from HTC's web site, still hard SPL'd, and I did not load MSVC, S2U2, or HTC Home yet.
R 1.27.14.09
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.62.00.00
I have run all day with no sound problems. I am now about to plunge and I think I'll put MSVC on there first and run another day, only because on a whole it's cooler than S2U2. Lets see what tomorrow brings.
Hey, I just found this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391262
I am using an older build of MSVC... I grabbed the latest build and will give that a shot first. What build are you using? I WAS using 1.6.17913 but aparently it is old. I just grabbed 1.6.19209

Its interesting that you're seeing the issue with the older build of MSVC as I never had it with that build, although I can't remember if I used that build with the latest version of S2U2.
My phone has gone a whole night now with no issues without S2U2 installed, so I think that proves there is a link. Not sure if I can be bothered trying S2U2 without MSVC as, like you, I prefer having MSVC over S2U2.
What is also interesting is that there has not been much (one post I think) mention of this on the S2U2 thread. I may bring it up...

The trouble is, in 6 weeks of trying to deal with the problem by re-flashing ROMs and radios, I would still have the issue. Even though I never install MSVC nor S2U2. I even had the problem on a "clean" setup - just the ROM, I setup Internet connection, ActiveSync wireless Exchange and Note2Self - that's it nothing else. And I would lose sound within 3 to 20 hours with this setup. That's the cleanest setup I could get - I don't need my phone if I don't have Note2Self )

Just saw another of the symptoms... Another thing it would do would be to just crash after a call. So hitting END leaves the screen stuck with whatever's on it, and no way to get off that dialer screen. OK doesn't work, though when I push my VC button I hear it beep. This just happened after a call.
Anyway, I did a power cycle and it's back now. But I do not have S2U2 on here, though the MS VC lady is getting a real workout today... Anyway, sergeb will still tell us that neither app matters, anyway.
Uggh. Still resisting urge to put S2U2 on here.

Wifi problem - or To Return or not To Return

I have some truly weird problems, would love to hear if anyone has encountered the same pain as I have.
The symptoms are:
In the comm manager the wifi suddenly refuses to switch on. When clicked the row greyes, a few seconds pass and then the row returns to status off. This problem will occur anytime. After the phone has been off for the night, after in use for a day or whenever. No pattern.
Soft resets never helps. Power off will help, but not necessarily at attempt #1. Hard resets will not necessarily help either (I have tried six times).
Device.exe crashed on me a few times after one of the hard resets. Manila.exe too.. this also intermittent. :/
So I'm thinking hw-failure here and the phone will go for replacement on monday, please let me know if you disagree or have any tips how to solve this. As I use wifi a lot this is crucial functionality for me.
I have seen similar problems for the Diamond where hw-failure seems the likely cause too. Please note that I have not tweaked the phone at all.
best, Robert

Well, as noone objected the phone is now sent back. Hopefully the new one will not have the same "feature".
cheers, Robert

Hi,
I have the same issues on my Diamond.
Thx

robertk2 said:
I have some truly weird problems, would love to hear if anyone has encountered the same pain as I have.
The symptoms are:
In the comm manager the wifi suddenly refuses to switch on. When clicked the row greyes, a few seconds pass and then the row returns to status off. This problem will occur anytime. After the phone has been off for the night, after in use for a day or whenever. No pattern.
Soft resets never helps. Power off will help, but not necessarily at attempt #1. Hard resets will not necessarily help either (I have tried six times).
Device.exe crashed on me a few times after one of the hard resets. Manila.exe too.. this also intermittent. :/
So I'm thinking hw-failure here and the phone will go for replacement on monday, please let me know if you disagree or have any tips how to solve this. As I use wifi a lot this is crucial functionality for me.
I have seen similar problems for the Diamond where hw-failure seems the likely cause too. Please note that I have not tweaked the phone at all.
best, Robert
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I have the same problem too. My wifi was firing fine until i used Wifi router v.6 (Bummer!). since then my Wifi refuses to fire up. Raphael forum does not have solutions, bt i could find a solution for a similar problem in Athena Forum < http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387454&page=4>
is there a way to port this fix for Raphael?? sure, if comnex obliges!
Cheers!

I'm using Swtos ROM" WM6.1 WWE CE OS 20753, Build 20753 V0.5 Light" which is very stable & Very responsive (Superlative). but recently my Wifi refuses to turn on using Comm Manager/wireless manager. My wifi was fine until i used Wifi router v.6 (maybe!), since then my Wifi refuses to fire up & even Network configuration manager refuses to open up. I have re-flashed several Radio ROMs, OS ROMs, including the Stock ROM & yet no solution. This dosent seem to to be a HW problem but something to do with MAC address corruption.
Raphael forum does not have solutions yet, bt i could find a solution for a similar problem in Athena Forum < http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=387454&page=4 >
does any one have a solution?
Cheers!

Same thing happened to me. One day wifi worked fine and now it doesn't. When I try to turn it on via comm manager it does nothing. I'm using RRE with radio 1.12.25.19. I've tried flashing different radios and hard resetting my device. Has anyone been able to fix this?

Touch Pro2 won't turn on?

I was having a few issues with my Touch Pro2 freezing up and not turning on. The reset button did nothing. Then, I discovered my problem and I wrote about it:
http://www.medicalsmartphones.com/2009/09/touchpro2-wont-turn-on-use-right-power.html

You can see that the actual power button icon is also on the red "hang up" button.
Makes more sense for someone coming from a regular phone as most devices actually use the same button to turn on and off the phones.

I'm still not convinced of this... i've been seeing issues with the TP2 on sprint using WM 6.5. It enters one of the following states... and the only way to recover is carry out a reset (remove back cover and press the 'reset' button).
1) Device will not power on, but orange charge light is visible
2) Device will not active sync and becomes locked, and cannot be powered down
3) Device repeatedly shuts down and restarts when connected to a PC via active sync..
Its all with the sprint rom that came with the phone.

Darkseed said:
I'm still not convinced of this... i've been seeing issues with the TP2 on sprint using WM 6.5. It enters one of the following states... and the only way to recover is carry out a reset (remove back cover and press the 'reset' button).
1) Device will not power on, but orange charge light is visible
2) Device will not active sync and becomes locked, and cannot be powered down
3) Device repeatedly shuts down and restarts when connected to a PC via active sync..
Its all with the sprint rom that came with the phone.
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Yep, same issue with the "Official VZW 6.5" update for my Verizon TP2...
Updated, when was it out, Thursday? Finally got all my sync issues fixed (Vista/Myphone/6.5 were not playing nicely) and starting reloading my Rhapsody stuff... Working good... Lovin' the 'Sense UI' update (minus the lag - but workable) and then... DUN DUN DUHHHHH!
Sunday morning I woke up to a completely frozen phone. Charge light was stuck on, frozen at the TP2 startup screen.
First try, power button - no response...
Second try, reset button - reboots to stick at the TP2 startup screen again...
Third try, battery pull - back to the startup screen again...
Finally booted to boot mode where 6.1 went right back on that puppy - works like a dream again!
Something weird in 6.5 land!

zcarman said:
Yep, same issue with the "Official VZW 6.5" update for my Verizon TP2... Something weird in 6.5 land!
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+1. My phone NEVER did this with 6.1.
Flashed to 6.5 thursday. Started re-installing cabs sort of fast and loose. Had the phone go into the sleep-of-the-dead five or six times over the next 24 hours. Power was on (pressing end/power button gave me the green arrow telling me to wake the phone using the top button. Pressing anything else wouldn't work and only a battery removal or soft reset would do the trick.
Hard reset Friday and started doing .cabs with a little more care (Sense off/install/reset/Sense back on). and I've gone three days without it happening again. Coincidence? Don't know. But I'll be watching these threads (here & XDA) carefully and keeping my fingers crossed.

zcarman said:
Yep, same issue with the "Official VZW 6.5" update for my Verizon TP2... .
Finally booted to boot mode where 6.1 went right back on that puppy - works like a dream again!
Something weird in 6.5 land!
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Where did you get 6.1? Verizon is sending me a new phone, I hope it comes with 6.1. I got my phone on Friday and Flashed offical VZW 6.5 to it, as a matter of fact I think they would have suggested that I upgrade today if it wasn't already at 6.5. They had me check version and said yep that's the latest version, that's the one we need on your phone.
Of course they don't admit there is a problem.
One time when it was "sleeping" and couldn't wake it up I tried calling it.... it vibrated, the lights came on, but no way to answer it just wouldn't "wake up"
Totally unacceptable.

immjg said:
Where did you get 6.1? Verizon is sending me a new phone, I hope it comes with 6.1. I got my phone on Friday and Flashed offical VZW 6.5 to it, as a matter of fact I think they would have suggested that I upgrade today if it wasn't already at 6.5. They had me check version and said yep that's the latest version, that's the one we need on your phone.
Of course they don't admit there is a problem.
One time when it was "sleeping" and couldn't wake it up I tried calling it.... it vibrated, the lights came on, but no way to answer it just wouldn't "wake up"
Totally unacceptable.
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All the stock ROMs can be found here http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=91940
If you like wm6.5 other than the issues you have had, i suggest trying a custom 6.5 ROM such as MightRom( http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=79579)
However before flashing make sure your phone is unlocked. This can be done here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578660
If you live in verizon's 1x network and keep getting an error every five seconds or so, the fix can be found here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1472842&postcount=107
Custom ROMs are faster and in many cases much more stable than verizons 6.5 update. I am currently using MightRom with no problems. No freezing or anything.

Opened a thread on this issue over at PPC Geeks:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=106799
Pretty clear this issue is NOT related to carrier, not isolated to any one ROM (yes, even Mighty ROM has experienced this, too), nor is it solely seen with WM 6.5.
I have my opinions and theries... but who knows. No definative solution is apparent as of yet.

Still happening with my VZW TP2 WM 6.5. Never happened with 6.1. My current theory is that it has something to do with Active Sync. I never start it, but it is often found running on my phone and I cannot find where to shut it off. This was not the case w/ 6.1. I don't know enough about the phone internals to say any more than this, or to test the theory.... Still looking and listening for answers, will post here if found.
Why would ActiveSync need to run when the phone is not hooked up to a PC??

Looks like an old thread, but I have a touch pro 2 w/ sprint. Activesync is always running. I have to kill it with the task manager. Haven't nailed down what's triggering it to fire but it takes up valued resources. I'm finding pother apps running when I thought I exited gracefully, like email, messaging. I'm thinking it's a setting somewhere??. I figured out for my case why Active sync kicks off on it's own.
QuickGPS significantly speeds up the time for determining your GPS
position. QuickGPS downloads ephemeris data from Web servers, instead of from satellites, using your
device’s Internet connection via Wi-Fi, ActiveSync or GPRS/3G. Now any location related service like the weather update is lijghting up ASync and I have to kill it with the task manager util. To prevent it from happing I'd have to turn off data services.. so fark it. I increased the weather update time and kill the app if I use it.

QuickGPS significantly speeds up the time for determining your GPS
position. QuickGPS downloads ephemeris data from Web servers, instead of from satellites, using your
device’s Internet connection via Wi-Fi, ActiveSync or GPRS/3G.
I think when the phone uses an app that requires location, like weather active sync is getting woken up. In my case I get weather updates every 2 hours. Presto - evertime I kill activesync then update weather acltivesysnc starts up again. So, what I'm saying is for my case if I don't have wifi or evo or a strong signal, and I update weather activesync lights up. That supports what the manual says about QuickGPS.

Activesync is used several things including exchange email. If you set up push email with exchange server then even if you turn off activesync with the task manager it will automatically turn back on.

TomTom And Diamond2

a support me because suddenly goes into pending the pda while running tomtom, I have done all combinations of energy but still the same!

I use "ttn7.916.9189_qvga_black" on my Topaz together with Dutty`s HG1 rom and it`s works like a charm.

patensas said:
I use "ttn7.916.9189_qvga_black" on my Topaz together with Dutty`s HG1 rom and it`s works like a charm.
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same here with tess 3.9 rom. In fact, since using 6.5 rom, the problem with voice clipping off before the end of the message (usually skipping all distances information) is gone, without even using the workaround that was needed with 6.1 ( silent wav/mp3 looping in background). Very happy about the 6.5 upgrade regarding TomTom (i do not know if the official 6.5 solves the issue, but I guess so)

I know exactly what TS means; I had the same on my Topaz. It is even been send back to Brussels (repair center Europe) and it came back OK. After a week or so, while driving with tomtom: screen blanks. I posted several threads about this on XDA, no solutions however. The screen went blank/phone suspend mode, no matter what settings I used in Energy settings. Even unchecking the boxes (so the phone should stay on, no matter what) didn't help: suspend mode after 30 seconds. After 30 minutes on external power.
After I upgraded to WM6.5, the problem is over.