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sleep of death

any one else getting it? unit goes in to standby and then wont wake up you have to soft reset.
ive been getting it frequently very anoying im using the big storage rom i dont rember who made it i can find out of some one wants to know
but is any one else having problems like me?

No problems here. I'm using the clean 1978 ROM...

I had it happen yesterday, running the stock AT&T ROM.

Hi
No problems here either.
It's worth remembering the phone wakes itself up about once an hour, although the display is dark so you will not see this happening.
If you have installed some software that doesn't handle this switching on very well and it crashes the phone, it will look the phone has died in standby, but it probably hasn't, it just looks that way.
I would advise a clean reset and not to install any programs, and see if it happens again. If it does your phone may be faulty, for example a memory problem that surfaces when the phone goes into a low power state.
Regards
Phil

Mine SOD'ed last night. I was using the phone, turned the screen off using the power button, then plugged it into my computer USB to charge. I was trying to do it one-handed and as you could imagine I was fiddling with the cable/phone for 30 seconds before I got the mini-usb plug into the phone. I watched to see the charging light come on but it didn't. I then tried to turn on the phone and realized I was SOD'ed. It only happens to me once every 1-2 weeks. My phone runs the stock Tilt ROM, but with lots of custom cabs installed, ie:
HTC Home 6 button
HTC Taskmanager 2.0 30995
Skype
Color Dot battery indicator
Schaps 10 Button Comm manager
PocketCM
Funambol 6.5.4
I push my phone all day long, surfing, ssh'ing into servers with putty, imap email, playing music etc, and I think if there was a bad memory issue Id see something other than an SOD. IMHO,theres a bug in the power management software.

SOD happened on my Tilt too. Im runnig the ATT rom. I had the same problem with the 8525 with the earlier ROM. The problem is IMAP email push. IF you use IMAP there is a chance you will get SOD once in a while. I changed all my emails to POP3 never had SOD since then.

I think you guys have to run the kaiser tweek to turn off the sleep mode in the registry. I had the SOD once....forgot to modify the registry via the kaisertweak app. 1st 2 options i think is what you have to modify.....that should fix you guys up.

Happened With Me too !!!
Now after using my at&t tilt flashed with HTC stock rom for 5 days, suddenly today my device suffered from a SOD.... had to soft-reset.... tried to figure out what went wrong but without any luck..... do any of u guys figured out the cause.... Kaiser Tweak only allows us to disable the sleep mode during call.....

kaiser falling sleep happens to me so frequently that I read all the posts with the key words KAISER FREEZE on xda-developers.
The only solution seems to power off and on again.
On modaco.com somebody posted a small applet which does automatically the power on-off for you.
Of course this does not remove the problem, just hide it...
Additionally I have tried 4 different WWE ROMS! from Att to HTC original ROMS to cooked Helmi aka 0.7.0 etc... No way to solve.
Please if modifying the registry can solve, can somebody post the link for kaiser tweaks and possibly the application?
Thanks
Saulo866

I think it might have something to do with Windows Live Maps program. This happend to me everytime I was using the program in the background. I upgraded the version and it stopped the problem I was having.

hollywood said:
I think it might have something to do with Windows Live Maps program. This happend to me everytime I was using the program in the background. I upgraded the version and it stopped the problem I was having.
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Same here... I upgraded to helmi_c's Tilt ROM and haven't had the problem since. Pretty much guarantted though, if you leave Live Search running in the background and your phone goes to sleep... it will not wake up with the stock ATT ROM (at least with the current version of Live Search).
Cheers!!

SOD has typical been associated with running programs off of a Storage card. I had tons of SOD problems with the early WM6 Hermes ROMs. So far I have only had SOD a few times on my Tilt (running austinsync's BigStorage ROM). I installed Google maps to my microSD and within 20 minutes had 3 SODs. I uninstalled it and they stoppped immediately (Live Search is way better anyway).
I would recommend installing any programs that you use heavily or leave running onto the main memory. Also, saving attachments to a storage card has been a known cause as well.
I think SOD issues will get better as more ROMs start coming out for the Kaiser (and the chefs keep cooking).

OK, this keeps happening to me with the AT&T ROM....today it happened with no programs running in the background, anybody figure out a solution yet?

Me too
well I've had this problem also while running my own cooked rom, however to be fair i had this problem in the early days of the hermes. I thought however that the hermes problem was related to activesync's push email and the data connection (i.e. switching between 3G and 2G alot making activesync trip out) That all said maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree?!
Oh just in case anyone as the time to investgate this problem, I do know the Toshiba G900 had alot of problems with SOD inwhich tosh releases a fix for...... maybe if someone was to look at what that fixed it could help us here? have a read here > www.my900.com

Kaiser won't power back up
My unit after reset won't either power up or down with the power button. Everything still functions.
I found that if I have the power charger connected it works fine, so I thought I had a weak battery. Got a new battery and same thing.
Don't know what's going on, but if you do a soft reset with the charger plugged in, it will reset fine.
Hope someone figures this out!

Be careful overconfiguring...
PhilipL said:
Hi
No problems here either.
It's worth remembering the phone wakes itself up about once an hour, although the display is dark so you will not see this happening.
If you have installed some software that doesn't handle this switching on very well and it crashes the phone, it will look the phone has died in standby, but it probably hasn't, it just looks that way.
I would advise a clean reset and not to install any programs, and see if it happens again. If it does your phone may be faulty, for example a memory problem that surfaces when the phone goes into a low power state.
Regards
Phil
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This might be the case, but I tried calling my phone when it SOD'd and didn't get a ring (it rang on the phone I was calling from.) I bet the problem is installed programs conflicting somehow, maybe kaisertweak will fix it in the future.
I can't guess what causes it tho...
For now, I'm running Kyphur's XDA Live and it has yet to happen.

PocketCM
rotohammer said:
Mine SOD'ed last night. I was using the phone, turned the screen off using the power button, then plugged it into my computer USB to charge. I was trying to do it one-handed and as you could imagine I was fiddling with the cable/phone for 30 seconds before I got the mini-usb plug into the phone. I watched to see the charging light come on but it didn't. I then tried to turn on the phone and realized I was SOD'ed. It only happens to me once every 1-2 weeks. My phone runs the stock Tilt ROM, but with lots of custom cabs installed, ie:
HTC Home 6 button
HTC Taskmanager 2.0 30995
Skype
Color Dot battery indicator
Schaps 10 Button Comm manager
PocketCM
Funambol 6.5.4
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I was running Kypher's Tilt XDA-Live v 1.0 (AWSOME) with several custom cabs including PocketCM and was getting the SOD every time. I wiped the phone and started adding all of my cabs one at a time and all of them are loaded back in except PocketCM and since then i have not seen a single SOD.
Tim

I've noticed that I get the SOD a LOT more when I have bluetooth active. Not sure if that's just coincidental but literally the only time I've noticed the SOD has been when I've had BT enabled.

Happens to me a few times a week very annoying.

Well, I don't do emails, use Windows live, have pocketCM, used my bluetooth, tried Google maps, or have any programs on my sd card (basically whatever you all mentioned above, I don't have or do!), and still get SOD. So I guess I start backtracking. Sigh...
tilt with xda Live

[Issues] Open Touch v4.0 | WM 6.1 | T-Mobile Wing!

Folks,
I'm starting this new thread since the release one is getting way too big to manager.
Please start posting issues related to my rom here, make sure they are actual issues and not user error.
Regards,

Windows Live / Hotmail Problems
Does anyone else have problems getting Windows Live to sync your hotmail? I finally got it working with the push support, but it does not allow me to download attachments. Anytime I try to download an attachment it says failed to sync. I've tried the 3 latest versions available from this board and none of them seem to work. I've also tried these combinations with both versions of biggy 4.0 to no avail. With open touch 3.0 (Windows live biggie) the Windows Live service was working perfectly. I can't imagine that having windows live built into the Rom was what made the difference. Any one have any ideas? If this is simply an unfixable bug do you know if the gmail imap works like a push client? I tried to configure gmail, but it wouldn't allow anything quicker than a check every 5 mins.
Once again thanks ttran for your hard work in creating this great rom. Without it I'd probably be an iSheep by now.
thanks in advance

Not sure if this is an operator error or the rom error but I installed the Black Dialer from this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1649317&postcount=1
I followed the instructions and did a soft reset, after that the Micro v4.1 run really sloooow. I have to perform a hard reset and reinstall all the other cabs.
So is it because I installed the wrong dialer cab or is it something wrong with the Micro v4.1? Whatever reason is I hope this is a good info for other ppl, too.
Other than that the Micro v4.1 run amazing fast and I do miss the black dial from the Lite Black version

when i added the battery to my toolbar and decided to take it off, the taskmanager that was up there disappeared, i cant get it back

djkdawg said:
when i added the battery to my toolbar and decided to take it off, the taskmanager that was up there disappeared, i cant get it back
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I was all ready to get mad....break out the flamethowers and what not, but after testing this is CONFIRMED. I added percent and mem feedback to the screen using QM, removed them and could not reenable htc task mgr. I want to say there used to be an option in the HTC x-button settings to show on today screen. That option is not there. Currently searching for the reg key.... will update post

high pitch noise comming from the speaker after flashing the rom

pixelwix said:
high pitch noise comming from the speaker after flashing the rom
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Using battery status?? I get the noise while using the cpu scaler UNDERclocking below 149. If it annoys you that much raise your min to 149. Otherwise, just try setting different processor speeds...dont over do it, see if that doesnt help.

ttran...I finally resolved my problem with Pocket Nester! Turns out it was user error... I had the files on my storage card in My Documents instead of having them at the root level. I noticed that it was seeing some of the folders on the storage card but none of the ones in My Documents. I moved them to the root of the storage card and it works!

since there is talk about the dialer i thought i would ask... in OT Biggy 3.0 the dialer had buttons that were quite large.
in this version the dialer is alot better, because it has the contacts built right into it at the top. however there is alot of space between the buttons, making them too small for my fingers.
is there a skin that just makes the dialer buttons bigger without downgrading back to the 3.0 version?
great work ttran, i am running 4.0 biggy w/ cube... just fyi and no issues thus far (only been testing for 2 days though)

Radio issue?
I'm not sure if this is a radio issue or something else, but here goes.
I flashed the lite black rom late last week.
I've been running a BT GPS for a while now with this phone. I've had my BT headset paired as well. I can use both at the same time. Monday, while talking on the headset, it just ended the call spontaneously. A few minutes later, after getting a call back on, it just ended the BT portion, and I had to actually pick up the phone (Horrors!)
Today, the cell phone side seems to be having troubles. (I've not tried the BT headset again, but still running the GPS) Several times I have had a "!" next to the phone icon in place of a signal strength meter... no signal or some error. I've had connection errors with the GPRS as well.
I may try out the micro with the newer radio in it, or look more into flashing an older radio version on here.
Let me know if you need any more details.

dirtisgood said:
I'm not sure if this is a radio issue or something else, but here goes.
I flashed the lite black rom late last week.
I've been running a BT GPS for a while now with this phone. I've had my BT headset paired as well. I can use both at the same time. Monday, while talking on the headset, it just ended the call spontaneously. A few minutes later, after getting a call back on, it just ended the BT portion, and I had to actually pick up the phone (Horrors!)
Today, the cell phone side seems to be having troubles. (I've not tried the BT headset again, but still running the GPS) Several times I have had a "!" next to the phone icon in place of a signal strength meter... no signal or some error. I've had connection errors with the GPRS as well.
I may try out the micro with the newer radio in it, or look more into flashing an older radio version on here.
Let me know if you need any more details.
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Hi,
I'm aware of the issues with the current radio, that why I posted the old radio and splash from v3.0.
Please go back to the first page of the actual release page for v4.0 to download it.

joking said:
Not sure if this is an operator error or the rom error but I installed the Black Dialer from this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1649317&postcount=1
I followed the instructions and did a soft reset, after that the Micro v4.1 run really sloooow. I have to perform a hard reset and reinstall all the other cabs.
So is it because I installed the wrong dialer cab or is it something wrong with the Micro v4.1? Whatever reason is I hope this is a good info for other ppl, too.
Other than that the Micro v4.1 run amazing fast and I do miss the black dial from the Lite Black version
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The dialer I used for v4.0 is different than any others. I did not include it in the micro since there are so many people with different wants and needs.
Some dont like the color of the dialer, some don't like the way the buttons are too small, and etc.
Thus I just plan left it out, so you the user can install a different dialer on top of the existing one.
But I think the one you try to use does not work correctly as a cab.
I've tested the micro version by installing different dialers with success.
I will try and locate a similar dilaer to mine or just create a cab for you folks as soon as I get some free time.
I still need to post different colors for the back ground as well.
Been busy working on my personal rom which will be for version 5.0 and the other versions of 4.0.

i'm using OT 4.0 biggy vista and everytime I set the backlight option to turn off after 3 minutes instead of 30 seconds and the power to turn off in 5 minutes instead of 2 as soon as the power goes off and I turn it on it's right back to 30 seconds and 2 minutes. This ain't a major issue it's just a pain in the ass cuz i'm using slide to unlock and evry 30 seconds I have to keep unlocking it.

nextpimp said:
I was all ready to get mad....break out the flamethowers and what not, but after testing this is CONFIRMED. I added percent and mem feedback to the screen using QM, removed them and could not reenable htc task mgr. I want to say there used to be an option in the HTC x-button settings to show on today screen. That option is not there. Currently searching for the reg key.... will update post
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I personally like it that way better, That way the HTC task manager and the OK button dont overlap and creat confusion. Instead, I use Quickmenu since that has it's own task manager. It shows you what's running and you can close them as well using Quickmenu.
Take a look into it

ttran001 said:
Been busy working on my personal rom which will be for version 5.0 and the other versions of 4.0.
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I'm more then willing to Beta test 5.0 when ready let me know!

nKiwan said:
I'm more then willing to Beta test 5.0 when ready let me know!
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I'm game too.

ttran001 said:
The dialer I used for v4.0 is different than any others. I did not include it in the micro since there are so many people with different wants and needs.
Some dont like the color of the dialer, some don't like the way the buttons are too small, and etc.
Thus I just plan left it out, so you the user can install a different dialer on top of the existing one.
But I think the one you try to use does not work correctly as a cab.
I've tested the micro version by installing different dialers with success.
I will try and locate a similar dilaer to mine or just create a cab for you folks as soon as I get some free time.
I still need to post different colors for the back ground as well.
Been busy working on my personal rom which will be for version 5.0 and the other versions of 4.0.
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Yes you're right. I had to hard reset the Wing since that Black dialer doesn't have the removed option. Well it's a learning experience for me too. And fortunately that v4.1 is UC, all I need to do is remove those cabs from the SDConfig.txt file and re-run it again and voila all the cabs I need is back on the Wing.
Can't wait till you post the cab for the dialer.
So far I love the Lite Black but I like the speed on the Micro better. That's why I try to get the Micro as much closer to the Lite Black as possible.
1 more thing I notice on the Micro, after installed "JUVS HTC Home.v2_1_1005722_s0" cab sometime when I switch back to the home the area where the HTC Home should be got "scramble" for about 2 sec. I still try to duplicate it and report back. It already happened to me 2 times today.

now people have to read 2 threads for 1 rom....... mhhhhhhh.

Just can say Thanks for your great rom.!
It runs perfect..

papamopps said:
now people have to read 2 threads for 1 rom....... mhhhhhhh.
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Sound Issues - Not Radio related!

Hi,
Is anybody else experiencing issues with losing sound on their phone? I have been experiencing this on a number of different roms and initially put it down to an incompatible radio, but I have sinced flashed back to one of Dutty's roms (including radio) and it happened again. I have now flashed back to the stock bootloader and HTC rom and it has happened again!
I am at a bit of a loss now - am in the process of hard resetting my phone to see if it happens on a bare device as I had a number of apps installed although none of them had caused this problem before that I am aware.
Would be interesting to know if anyone else is getting this - don't know if its possible that any of the recent radio/rom releases could have done something permanently damaging to cause this. Will be sending mine back to HTC if it happens again, unless someone identifies a fix?!?
Cheers!

captainsensible2002 said:
Hi,
Is anybody else experiencing issues with losing sound on their phone? I have been experiencing this on a number of different roms and initially put it down to an incompatible radio, but I have sinced flashed back to one of Dutty's roms (including radio) and it happened again. I have now flashed back to the stock bootloader and HTC rom and it has happened again!
I am at a bit of a loss now - am in the process of hard resetting my phone to see if it happens on a bare device as I had a number of apps installed although none of them had caused this problem before that I am aware.
Would be interesting to know if anyone else is getting this - don't know if its possible that any of the recent radio/rom releases could have done something permanently damaging to cause this. Will be sending mine back to HTC if it happens again, unless someone identifies a fix?!?
Cheers!
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happened to me yesterday. i had to hard reset and my phone still isn't customized 24hrs later.

Do you remember what apps you had installed?

I'm starting to think all of this has something to do with MSVC.

well i have consistently been using version 19209 whilst having these problems. Going to try 17913 again and see how that goes.

Mine too
I've been getting this alot lately, too. I think it's either MS VC or S2U2 1.01, or a combination of them.
I've done the same thing, flashed multiple ROMS and radios, but I've stayed in the WM6.1 family. I was running Confused Stu's Vista 1.2 forever and it suddenly started doing that - loosing sound. I went to 1.3 and then over to a Dutty build, and have now settled on L26_WM6.1_PROV4_(3.51.502.0_WWE)_Multimedia... This time I went slow and only loaded a few apps at a time. I thought it was Calendar+... But I don't have that on here yet.
It seems like it ran fine until I put S2U2 on here, but like I say, I use MS VC to announce everything so maybe it's some action there that didn't happen until after I put s2u2 on there, or maybe coincidence.
I wonder if anyone else is seeing this? I think I'll start over without S2U2 - even tho it rocks! - and chill a week.
Do you use S2U2? Do you use Caller ID in S2U2? How about slide 2 answer, slide 2 end key options? What about blank screen on talk option?
Thanks,
H

s2u2 v1.01 could be the culprit as i have been using it. After slowly reloading apps this morning sound had gone again, and one of the last to go on was s2u2. I don't think MSVC is the problem as it has never done it before plus its cooked into a lot of new roms, whereas s2u2 isn't. Am going to uninstall s2u2 and see what happens. It was one of the last things I put on and sound had been stable before that.

Im getting this issue as well, what radio are you guys running just out of interest, im running duttys 6.1 build 19199 with radio 1.65.14.06

I haved the same problem and resolve it by flash ing TNT 19202 Series PRO with radio 1.65.14.06. Best regards.

Well, the issue came back on the stock rom when I bit the bullet and installed a slightly older version of S2U2 (0.99p)!
I have now reflashed Hard-SPL and the latest Dutty Rom (with MSVC included) and have resisted putting S2U2 on and so far, so good!!

Hey, Zaf, do you run S2U2 or MS VC?
I flashed back to the AT&T Tilt stock ROM (downloaded from HTC web site, incl the radio) and reloaded S2U2 1.01 and MS VC. I lost sound within a couple of hours.
I did a hard reset and have not installed EITHER... I plan to run for a day like this, then put MS VC back on for the weekend, and then S2U2 after that.
I think it's S2U2 and I think it's been around since .99p. But I think 1.01 is worse than .99p or 1.0.
Well, at least we're narrowing down the variables!

Hey, everyone - watch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390977
for a similar discussion.

I flashed TNT 19202 Pro thus morning and the sound died few hours later again... Don't use S2U2. I posted more here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2207600&postcount=18

I have lost sound 3 times, it is only through the speaker though, my bluetooth headset continues to work. Once I flashed a new rom to fix it, the other time it fixed itself over a few hours. The third time is happening now!
I have never used S2U so it can't be that. Have been using Dutty's roms, my radio is currently 1.58.16.27.

are we talking about sound in calls, if so i have been experiencing calls dropping and other people can hear me fine but then it suddenly goes quiet for the other caller and they can barely hear me? is this a fault with my kaiser or to do with flashing with custom ROMs.

I think we need to be very clear here what the symptoms are of a specific problem.
My symptoms were that sound would initially be ok after flashing a new ROM (whether it had MSVC cooked in or not) and then I would go through the process of installing my 'regular' apps which has always included S2U2.
Then, at some point after doing this, all sound would disappear - from the device and also during calls (interestingly, during calls, the other party could not hear me either).
I cannot explain for one moment the issues that people who don't use MSVC/S2U2 - some of these might be explainable by radio issues but I am not an expert by any means so would not be prepared to blame that!
All I know for certain is that up until recently I could use MSVC 1.6 build 17913 alongside S2U2 0.99 with NO issues at all - this is why I think that MSVC 19209 combined with S2U2 is the reason.
One other thing, I have not tried S2U2 on its own, without using MSVC, mainly because I am fed up with flashing! Perhaps someone else could confirm or deny if this has caused problems?!?

Yes, my symptoms are EXACTLY as the captain describes in his post... Everything fine for a little while after flashing, but soon after I get all my apps reloaded I call someone, or someone calls me, and there is no sound. No audio at all from the speaker, bluetooth, or in-call speaker. The caller can't hear me, either. I have to soft reset or power cycle to get sound back but it doesn't last long.
All day I've run with the AT&T stock tilt ROM from HTC's web site, still hard SPL'd, and I did not load MSVC, S2U2, or HTC Home yet.
R 1.27.14.09
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.62.00.00
I have run all day with no sound problems. I am now about to plunge and I think I'll put MSVC on there first and run another day, only because on a whole it's cooler than S2U2. Lets see what tomorrow brings.
Hey, I just found this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391262
I am using an older build of MSVC... I grabbed the latest build and will give that a shot first. What build are you using? I WAS using 1.6.17913 but aparently it is old. I just grabbed 1.6.19209

Its interesting that you're seeing the issue with the older build of MSVC as I never had it with that build, although I can't remember if I used that build with the latest version of S2U2.
My phone has gone a whole night now with no issues without S2U2 installed, so I think that proves there is a link. Not sure if I can be bothered trying S2U2 without MSVC as, like you, I prefer having MSVC over S2U2.
What is also interesting is that there has not been much (one post I think) mention of this on the S2U2 thread. I may bring it up...

The trouble is, in 6 weeks of trying to deal with the problem by re-flashing ROMs and radios, I would still have the issue. Even though I never install MSVC nor S2U2. I even had the problem on a "clean" setup - just the ROM, I setup Internet connection, ActiveSync wireless Exchange and Note2Self - that's it nothing else. And I would lose sound within 3 to 20 hours with this setup. That's the cleanest setup I could get - I don't need my phone if I don't have Note2Self )

Just saw another of the symptoms... Another thing it would do would be to just crash after a call. So hitting END leaves the screen stuck with whatever's on it, and no way to get off that dialer screen. OK doesn't work, though when I push my VC button I hear it beep. This just happened after a call.
Anyway, I did a power cycle and it's back now. But I do not have S2U2 on here, though the MS VC lady is getting a real workout today... Anyway, sergeb will still tell us that neither app matters, anyway.
Uggh. Still resisting urge to put S2U2 on here.

TP Stability?

Hello,
I am experiencing some annoying stability issue with my device. From time to time (manilla.exe and/or cprog.exe) just crash. It maybe happened 3-5 time within the last 2 month, but it is still very annoying as I missed call...
I am also using from time to time MSN messenger, which seems to be weird on my device. First it duplicated all my contact in messenger (I was able to fix this by removing my live account and setting it up again). And, sometime message arrives in the wrong window (messages from person A are coming in the conversation I am having with person B).
One day I even found my device with some black-white artifact on the screen, the only way to get rid of this was to reset my phone.
I am using the official HTC rom with only a few app installed (resco, tomtom, coreplayer, answerkeydisabler, ...).
I am now seriously concerned about the health of my phone. My previous devices (tytn, tytn II) were a lot more stable for my everyday use. Is this is "normal" or is my device faulty?
Thank you

I went through two and both had issues. The first was far worse than the second, but even the second was lacking stability (HTC Fuze version primarily using AT&T ROM, but even the custom ROMs I tried weren't completely stable).

My stock Sprint ROM TP is very stable, even with a LOAD of stuff that I have put on it. Of course as a lot of stuff is still in development, I'll have stability issues with certain apps, but once I remove them it's back to great stability.
When I just had a few things on it, it was rock stable. Maybe it's one of your apps even though they are few?

Sleepy Sprint CMDA after upgrade

I am having problems with a Sprint HTC TP2 after doing the 6.1 to 6.5 upgrade. I have had it into Sprint repair twice and hard reset it about 6 times. There are two problems I am encountering:
1) for about 2 minutes to 30 minutes at a time I cannot turn the unit on. The flashing green light is out during this time. I can call the phone and it wakes up, but you cannot wake it with any of the buttons. The reset button does not work either. You can pull the battery and that will reset it. Sometimes in this phase the white light behind the hard keys will light if you pull out the stylus, not always.
2) at random times the phone software gets really slow. For example, the flippity floppty clock animation will hang up and not move for 30-60 seconds, then it will move a little and eventually it will catch up. Other apps will do similar things, the clock is the obvious because of the animations.
This has occurred even right after a hard reset, within a few minutes. With no additional apps loaded (as Sprint told me the first time that was the problem.)
Sprint unofficially told me to downgrade it back to 6.1 using a variety of websites to follow, and officially told me to contact HTC support and gave me their 800 number.
Thoughts? Anyone else having this problem? Advice?

Being a Sprint corporate employee at a service and repair center, continue to go into the store if it is convenient for you to do so. Every eTicket they create builds a case for them to replace your TP2 with a new one. I would strongly suggest using Microsoft MyPhone to back up your information so if they do swap you out, you just need to log into MyPhone and sync your information.

The issue is with Sense
I experienced the same issues with the Sleep of Death in the device and had to remove the batteries everytime I finished a call. I got tired so I reflashed the phone, set it up and hard reset it again.
The problem persisted. I would have to click on the windows buttom and then could not click on the Today or Settings tab( I woud just hang there!) Then I disabled the SENSE UI and worked with the 6.5 default settings and no more lockup issues. Also, installed SPB Mobile Shell and it worked for 3 days without issues.
This makes me suspect the SENSE and HTC apps are causing the lockups. I am interested if other people are experiencing these issues. I installed MAX Manilla 2.5 two days ago and the device seesm to be stable. The only time I have issues is when I update the contact tab. It locks up, but that is not a function of Max Manilla but the core HTC contact app.

Had my phone for a week with Sense 2.5 and WM 6.5, stock. No problems like the ones mentioned in the thread yet...

It all depends on what you use your phone for. Try my ROM, see link below...

Sprint 6.5 Rom issues
There have actually been some similar issues with the new sprint 6.5 however, not to the extent of the phone having actually been stuck in sleep mode. Some things I can recommend that may help is to check your task manager frequently because programs don't fully close when you exit out of them. In addition to this you should consider installing cleanram which helps clear up memory. I’m not allowed to post the link because I’m still a new member however just follow this thread...
xda-developers > Windows Mobile Development and Hacking > Windows Mobile Apps and Games
[APP]htcAddicts - cleanRAM v2.1 (RAM Cleaner)
Also, there seems to be an issue with the manila 2.5 sense and the htc clock, if you have the htc clock open it can run sluggish at times..But I recommend that you pull up you quick tabs and minimize your htc clock for the sense 2.5 to run faster. Lastly keep the stock plain black screen saver because if you use a custom or different background the system can run slower.
I too also have the sprint tp2, and the 6.1 rom is considered to be one of the fastest and most stable rom for cdma tp2s. However, the downfall is the downgrade :/...
I have also worked for sprint corporate repair center, what might help and save you time before going to the repair center would be to call the technical support to see if they could solve your issue. Because by doing this a ticket is already created and the tech will be able to see the troubleshooting that was done. In addition to this repairs can be difficult and frustrating at times due to the fact that the problem that you’re having must be repeatable in order for sprint to repair or replace your phone (it really depends on the repair center). If you find that you continue to have errors with your sprint 6.5 rom, I would recommend trying other Roms to see if the issue is in fact the rom or the device...
Hope this can help!
-am

Sprint 6.5
Thank you for the good advice. I took my device into a store and they did the usual hard reset ( cannot reproduce the issue) process. I sat there and activesynched with Exchange server , made a call and had the phone locked up two times. I do have over 1000 contacts in my list ( Business, clients and my consultants!)
The tech said he had never seen this issue and ordered me a new device.I use the Clean Ram and task manager programs. I also ran a process explorer in the device and it finds Manilla to be the culprid of the issues. So I have installed Mobile Shell and am using that until my replacement arrives.
As I sat in the store there were 4 people with HTC TP2 with unresponsive screens. All 6.5 roms.

Sprint WM6.5
I have no idea what all the hype was about or what I'm missing in this upgrade. IT'S HORRIBLE!!! It's almost 10% cosmetic and 90% buggy. In my opinion, WM6.1 was stable, fast, and professional looking. The upgrade has done nothing for me in terms of productivity. It has turned my phone into a cartoonish, VERY sluggish, and a freeze worthy POS!!! I despise this upgrade, the colors, the themes, and most of--the stupid, sloppy, rolodex-like clock.
Anyone know where I could find the necessary information to 'downgrade' back to WM6.1???

jsonc78 said:
I have no idea what all the hype was about or what I'm missing in this upgrade. IT'S HORRIBLE!!! It's almost 10% cosmetic and 90% buggy. In my opinion, WM6.1 was stable, fast, and professional looking. The upgrade has done nothing for me in terms of productivity. It has turned my phone into a cartoonish, VERY sluggish, and a freeze worthy POS!!! I despise this upgrade, the colors, the themes, and most of--the stupid, sloppy, rolodex-like clock.
Anyone know where I could find the necessary information to 'downgrade' back to WM6.1???
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WM6.1 is always faster than WM6.5. Besides WM6.1 has sense 2.1, which is faster than sense 2.5.

Downgrade 6.1
PPC geeks has the stock roms...
I still cant post links yet :/ but goto PPC geeks..then click on forums..from there scroll down to where it says htc device and click on touch pro 2...then click on cdma tp2 upgrades...then scroll down nd you should see a forum thread that says STOCK ROM collections..once u click that it provides u a link for the sprint 6.1 rom and many others...hope this can help!
-am