Difference Between Ubranded HTC touch Pro and The Fuze unlocked version? - Touch Pro, Fuze General

hi,
can anyone tell me whats the difference between this phones? is it only the software inside or everything is different? thanks

fuze doesnt have a front facing camera for video calls..its cosmetically different and the keyboard layout is different..thats what comes to mind

kventura said:
hi,
can anyone tell me whats the difference between this phones? is it only the software inside or everything is different? thanks
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Front Cam and Keyboard, yes, also the Fuze has an extra hardware button (PTT) which luckily can be remapped and then comes in very handy for example as button for a task manager (short press) and to activate the camera (long press).

uhh... more importantly is that the fuze is triband 3G (850/1900/2100) while the unlocked touch pro is only dual band (900/1900). so the unlocked unbranded version will not work on at&t's 3G network. if you have tmobile, it wont make a difference. please search next time, this question has been asked many times before

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No bandselection in Phoneoptions after upgrade to 1.06.00WWE

I got the T-mobile MDA Compact with upgraded rom 1.06.00 WWE and Radiostack 1.05.00. The upgrades are working perfectly. Sound quality improved big time with lots of noise reduction and lower amplitude.
But I found out that under the phone settings the tab where I used to select europe band or USA band is gone now. Anyone has any idea where it's gone and if it will be automatic now?
You could never select bands on the Magician as far as I know. You could select which network you were on though.
Re: No bandselection in Phoneoptions after upgrade to 1.06.0
Geitenbreier said:
I got the T-mobile MDA Compact with upgraded rom 1.06.00 WWE and Radiostack 1.05.00. The upgrades are working perfectly. Sound quality improved big time with lots of noise reduction and lower amplitude.
But I found out that under the phone settings the tab where I used to select europe band or USA band is gone now. Anyone has any idea where it's gone and if it will be automatic now?
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please put this file cab into your mini then use your file explorer to find this cab and run it..,
I think you should see the band select
enjoy
whtrbt7 said:
You could never select bands on the Magician as far as I know. You could select which network you were on though.
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are you sure ?
you may try the cab that i've upload..,
then you will know magician better 8) 8) 8)
Thx for this file , now all is ok, it`s working
Hmmmm this is interesting, it's a band switching app. :shock:
Question: Why would I need a band switch application if my Magician automatically switches bands?
Do I get faster access to certain networks if I single out a frequency?
never mind..... I figured it out
whtrbt7 said:
Hmmmm this is interesting, it's a band switching app. :shock:
Question: Why would I need a band switch application if my Magician automatically switches bands?
Do I get faster access to certain networks if I single out a frequency?
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I go to the USA a couple of times a year and untill now I had a Sony-Ericsson P800 and T-mobile: I never had to select the band when I got there since my phone started looking for a band itself.
I have my MDA (now also 1.06 Qtex Rom) put on AUTO. I can image that it might be faster to just put it on the approriate band...
Since I just have my MDA I probably won't test this till June when I leave for the USA again....
Re: No bandselection in Phoneoptions after upgrade to 1.06.0
h4ndy said:
Geitenbreier said:
I got the T-mobile MDA Compact with upgraded rom 1.06.00 WWE and Radiostack 1.05.00. The upgrades are working perfectly. Sound quality improved big time with lots of noise reduction and lower amplitude.
But I found out that under the phone settings the tab where I used to select europe band or USA band is gone now. Anyone has any idea where it's gone and if it will be automatic now?
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please put this file cab into your mini then use your file explorer to find this cab and run it..,
I think you should see the band select
enjoy
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It Works again! Thanks!
Would this cab give my Qtek 2020 a band select option? Thanks
excellent
excellent
thank you

ATT Fuze ROM Questions

All,
I currently have an unbranded/unlocked HTC Tilt that I imported from the UK when they first came out about a year ago, well before ATT started selling their version of the Tilt. Mine has the front camera, etc.
As I understand it, ATT must have made some sort of deal with HTC on the Raphael (Fuze) because the Touch Pro I bought (and have since returned) would not support all of the 3G bands here in the states. I could only get EDGE.
I really want to get the new Fuze, but I am concerned about the limitations ATT is going to introduce on the ROM of this device, and I wouldn't buy the ATT version if there was another way to get the device with the appropriate US 3G band support.
So, my questions are:
1. Proxy Server settings: Is this available on the Fuze ROM? The Tilt I have now allows me to uncheck the "use proxy server" on my MediaNet connection profile. This is an important setting for me to have, as without it I can't get my Slingbox client and Newsbreak to work properly if it is enabled or not available to disable.
2. Internet sharing: Are the rumors of this being removed true? I hear that they pulled it. ATT is starting to look like Verizon with their ROM limitations. If they did pull the internet sharing app, can you copy it from another device or will applications like PDANet or WMWiFiRouter work in it's absence?
I think that is all I need to know for now. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
-Rob
robroy90 said:
All,
I currently have an unbranded/unlocked HTC Tilt that I imported from the UK when they first came out about a year ago, well before ATT started selling their version of the Tilt. Mine has the front camera, etc.
As I understand it, ATT must have made some sort of deal with HTC on the Raphael (Fuze) because the Touch Pro I bought (and have since returned) would not support all of the 3G bands here in the states. I could only get EDGE.
I really want to get the new Fuze, but I am concerned about the limitations ATT is going to introduce on the ROM of this device, and I wouldn't buy the ATT version if there was another way to get the device with the appropriate US 3G band support.
So, my questions are:
1. Proxy Server settings: Is this available on the Fuze ROM? The Tilt I have now allows me to uncheck the "use proxy server" on my MediaNet connection profile. This is an important setting for me to have, as without it I can't get my Slingbox client and Newsbreak to work properly if it is enabled or not available to disable.
2. Internet sharing: Are the rumors of this being removed true? I hear that they pulled it. ATT is starting to look like Verizon with their ROM limitations. If they did pull the internet sharing app, can you copy it from another device or will applications like PDANet or WMWiFiRouter work in it's absence?
I think that is all I need to know for now. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
-Rob
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why dont you just flash a new rom to it?
internet sharing is there you just have to open from file explorer
and the NA touch pro will be available after the fuze with 3G
I thought about that...
Ok, I had considered that, but if I do flash a ROM, which one?
If I flash it, will it have the appropriate application/registry entries to support the bands for proper 3G operation here in the States?
GRRRRR.... why do they pull this crap? Apparently it is too much to ask to get a true "world" phone with all the bands in hardware and software!
-Rob
well i work for at&t and i was given the fuze as a demo device about a month ago and have since decided to keep it (kind of a nice thing). you can do what i just did to mine. I flashed it with HTC firmware, then flashed the at&t radio's onto it. I was also given a link to a cab file that switches the keyboard to the at&t layout (my only gripe change).
The onlything i see intresting is the Fuze's we got in last week, when i booted one up and played with it for a customer, i noticed they have a 1.95 SPL they are shipping with. wonder if that will effect flashing to the unsigned spl. And i will say, They didnt trim much out from original software, however they gave it the good ole' at&t bloatware.
waterhurley said:
well i work for at&t and i was given the fuze as a demo device about a month ago and have since decided to keep it (kind of a nice thing). you can do what i just did to mine. I flashed it with HTC firmware, then flashed the at&t radio's onto it. I was also given a link to a cab file that switches the keyboard to the at&t layout (my only gripe change).
The onlything i see intresting is the Fuze's we got in last week, when i booted one up and played with it for a customer, i noticed they have a 1.95 SPL they are shipping with. wonder if that will effect flashing to the unsigned spl. And i will say, They didnt trim much out from original software, however they gave it the good ole' at&t bloatware.
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your store got multiple fuzes in??
and heres a question about bloatware on the fuze
with my 8525 whenever i hard reset i let it do the first customization to set the device up but i soft reset when it begins the 2nd since that is when att crap is loaded. does the fuze have a similar setup? or all at once
lbhocky19 said:
your store got multiple fuzes in??
and heres a question about bloatware on the fuze
with my 8525 whenever i hard reset i let it do the first customization to set the device up but i soft reset when it begins the 2nd since that is when att crap is loaded. does the fuze have a similar setup? or all at once
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All the configuration is done during one customization screen. A soft reset to kill the bloat must be done before you see the "3...2...1..." countdown.
NotATreoFan said:
All the configuration is done during one customization screen. A soft reset to kill the bloat must be done before you see the "3...2...1..." countdown.
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thank you
now with my 8525 i found if i cancelled the first one it messed up stuff and the phone didnt work right
if i cancel it on the fuze does everything still work and simply get rid of the att crap?
robroy90 said:
All,
I currently have an unbranded/unlocked HTC Tilt that I imported from the UK when they first came out about a year ago, well before ATT started selling their version of the Tilt. Mine has the front camera, etc.
As I understand it, ATT must have made some sort of deal with HTC on the Raphael (Fuze) because the Touch Pro I bought (and have since returned) would not support all of the 3G bands here in the states. I could only get EDGE.
I really want to get the new Fuze, but I am concerned about the limitations ATT is going to introduce on the ROM of this device, and I wouldn't buy the ATT version if there was another way to get the device with the appropriate US 3G band support.
So, my questions are:
1. Proxy Server settings: Is this available on the Fuze ROM? The Tilt I have now allows me to uncheck the "use proxy server" on my MediaNet connection profile. This is an important setting for me to have, as without it I can't get my Slingbox client and Newsbreak to work properly if it is enabled or not available to disable.
2. Internet sharing: Are the rumors of this being removed true? I hear that they pulled it. ATT is starting to look like Verizon with their ROM limitations. If they did pull the internet sharing app, can you copy it from another device or will applications like PDANet or WMWiFiRouter work in it's absence?
I think that is all I need to know for now. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
-Rob
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Rob-
I bought my Fuze off eBay so I can't swear that it is the same version as what will ship but I'm pretty sure that it is.
On mine, you can check or uncheck "use proxy server" in the Media Net settings just like on your Tilt. Also, mine DOES include the Internet Sharing. I haven't had a chance to test it out yet, but since it's there I'm guessing it works.
Internet Sharing is in the official AT&T ROM. As a matter of fact, when you connect the USB cable, you get 2 choices: Activesync or Internet Sharing. No Wireless Modem crap on the Fuze.
lbhocky19 said:
why dont you just flash a new rom to it?
internet sharing is there you just have to open from file explorer
and the NA touch pro will be available after the fuze with 3G
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Where did you find out that there will be a NA Touch Pro after the Fuze is released?

Is the HTC Fuze the same as the HTC Touch Pro

what is the "HTC Fuze"? Just ATT's name for the Touch Pro?
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...details/?device=HTC+FUZE(TM)&q_sku=sku3090226
Thanks
-crobs808
Correct. There is a just a few modifications between them. Such as the FUZE not having a forward facing camera, and the keyboard layout is different.
Switching to ATT?
Ahh darn, that is one of my wants, the front-facing camera. Can you buy a version that will work with ATT that has that camera? I am thinking about switching from Verizon to ATT, and want to take a step up from the 6800 that I currently have.
If only the HTC Touch HD had a slideout keyboard.
There are my requirements...
-Runs Windows Mobile 6+
-At least 256M RAM (not ROM)
-Supports TomTom (via aGPS or true GPS)
-Have a full slideout keyboard
-Forward-facing camera (not required, but greatly desired)
Does ATT allow using your phone as a modem? Like teathered over ActiveSync and using Internet Sharing? I do this all the time on my XV6800 on Verizon and I never get extra charges for it.
Thanks,
Actually, they both have rear facing cameras, the fuze keyboard is different and the Fuze is GSM. The Verizon and Sprint Touch Pros are CDMA.
denco7 said:
Actually, they both have rear facing cameras, the fuze keyboard is different and the Fuze is GSM. The Verizon and Sprint Touch Pros are CDMA.
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By "rear" facing, you mean on the front of the camera, facing the user right?
On the ATT site, it shows they put the ATT logo where the Camera should be, and in all the photos of the used or refub Fuze's being sold online, there is no front camera for the "ATT" specific labeled ones. So which is it?
crobs808 said:
By "rear" facing, you mean on the front of the camera, facing the user right?
On the ATT site, it shows they put the ATT logo where the Camera should be, and in all the photos of the used or refub Fuze's being sold online, there is no front camera for the "ATT" specific labeled ones. So which is it?
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... no... as you are looking at the screen the camera faces away....to the rear on the phone.
why do u want a front facing camera? none of the carriers support true video calling anyway so who cares??
i have the fuze
once you put a custom rom on you should be in love
verizones version of the touch pro is absoloute crap
TP2 will be ok
lbhocky19 said:
why do u want a front facing camera? none of the carriers support true video calling anyway so who cares??
i have the fuze
once you put a custom rom on you should be in love
verizones version of the touch pro is absoloute crap
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how is the CDMA/Verizon version "crap"? It is identical hardware as the Fuze. In fact, the CDMA version has two cameras (front and back), the ATT Fuze has only one, so if anything the Fuze is worse, but both are identical chips, processors, ram, boards, etc...just different communication chips is all, which has no effect on processing power or speed, etc...
How is the CDMA version any different? (except for having a mroe reliable network protocol)
also - i want a forward facing camera for 2 reasons. 1) because that is the way HTC made it, and it is not ATT's job to request a different hardware setup that is more constricted, and 2) um duh...here's why - LINK: http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/windowsmobile/
You need a forward facing phone for video conferencing (supported with unlimited data plans) whiehc everyone pretty much has these days.
Actually, Verizon cripples the hell out of their product. Everything on verzion will always be worse because of this. here...
Verizon's version of the HTC Touch Pro is crippled right out of the box. Locked GPS, much less RAM and no YouTube app. TouchFlow 3D eats up too much of the meager RAM. With tweaks, it is a decent device (excellent call quality), but Verizon gets no points for crippling a potentially amazing piece of hardware. Go with Sprint or AT&T if you don't need the Verizon network.
here is the proof...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej_BENjjeb8
go with the fuze or the touch pro sprint
And here is a complete list of each device and its differences... tisk tisk verizon...192 mb of ram
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/htc-...ouch-pro-vs-t-s-fuze-vs-verizon-s-xv6850.html
yeah so just the ram is different. everyone here unlocks and uses custom roms/radios, so the GPS and youtube app missing are no big deal since you can fix it in seconds. i think im gonna stay with verizon, but get a Sprint touch pro and use it with vzw
thanks!

Re: Touch Diamond / TP

Re: Touch Diamond / TP
Hi,
I am planning to get a Touch Diamond or Touch Pro next month (depends on the price ). I had posted a query in the TD section, but did not get any reply . My query is:
In most of the countries both of these sets are 3G enabled, but in India they are not. So if I get one of the two sets mentioned, can I flash any ROM / Radio available in the respective forum, or do I need to take some special precautions.
Thanks.
P.S. Some reply please
Im no expert, but from what I know as long as you flash a GSM rom everything should be fine.
khsbenny said:
Im no expert, but from what I know as long as you flash a GSM rom everything should be fine.
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But radio ? Think that should be different (3G vs 2G)!
3G is related to hardware so not even flashing another ROM and radio will activate it.
Check the frequencies used in India vs. the ones on the devices you want to buy, anyway if you buy it it will work perfectly on EDGE.
orb3000 said:
3G is related to hardware so not even flashing another ROM and radio will activate it.
Check the frequencies used in India vs. the ones on the devices you want to buy, anyway if you buy it it will work perfectly on EDGE.
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LOL, thats what I wanted to know, say I wrongly flashed a 3G radio.. So that may screw up my Non 3G Diamond ?

Is EDGE usable for someone?

Already stated in another thread, I have an issue when using EDGE connectivity.
(HOME button activate on its own and loop)
Can you please feedback here if you have the same issue and also if you use EDGE with no problem?
I was planning to return the phone, but in fact I didn't find any positive feedback...
My HTC One S is running under 1.78 EU
Works fine here. No problems when connected with EDGE and pretty good data speeds for 2G.
Also running 1.78 EU stock.
Hello
I've the same issue. no problem in G, 3G, H or wifi
I'm in Martinique. Phone received from France on wednesday 9th and updated to 1.78.401.2
I don't know if it's because of the update.
I contacted HTC customer service on friday. waiting for answer...
I'm using edge right now
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA
pierre.grand said:
Already stated in another thread, I have an issue when using EDGE connectivity.
(HOME button activate on its own and loop)
Can you please feedback here if you have the same issue and also if you use EDGE with no problem?
I was planning to return the phone, but in fact I didn't find any positive feedback...
My HTC One S is running under 1.78 EU
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Yeah - same problems with the random and annoying home button activations when connected over EDGE - all OK on other radios...
"Fixed" it by setting my mobile data "Network Mode" to WCDMA only - which seems to disable the EDGE radio - I know this is limiting me to only using data where I've got a 3G signal or WiFi, but at least the phone doesn't keep returning to home...
Not ideal, but it definitely appears to be specific to when the phone is using the EDGE radio.
tom_tvotw said:
Yeah - same problems with the random and annoying home button activations when connected over EDGE - all OK on other radios...
"Fixed" it by setting my mobile data "Network Mode" to WCDMA only - which seems to disable the EDGE radio - I know this is limiting me to only using data where I've got a 3G signal or WiFi, but at least the phone doesn't keep returning to home...
Not ideal, but it definitely appears to be specific to when the phone is using the EDGE radio.
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I've returned mine to the supplier but they didn't tell me if they solved the problem and just lost the phone when sending it back to me. I live in south of France and it was delivered near Paris. Thanks B&You for such a perf :-(
I can't get any news from them. I'm really disapointed by HTC to deliver such phones and annoyed now by the lack of respect of B&You(Bouygues Telecom)...
I'm back on my Defy that is broken(audio not working anymore...it's a PDA but not a phone anymore...)
Hi!
Right now (Subway) on EDGE and Home Button is working as it should!
My ROM is Leedroid 2.0, also
1.78 based.
Is the issue limited to Stock ROMs?
Sent from my HTC VLE_U using XDA
I am using EDGE now it seems to be alright for the most part.
I have the same problem, I reported to HTC, I hope they fix that problem soon.
Phone is unusable for me most time I'm only in EDGE coverage in my work and home
it seems as if the phone is having trouble being a phone - all other features are great!
really, all phone related connections are very bad:
if it gets 3G it is hard for the system to switch down to 2G when necessary (used to be smooth with my desire).
System reports signal but actually I'm unavailable for long periods - didn't happen with my desire with same provider and same locations.
On EDGE it's mostly usable, but on GSM i have massive problems. Mostly if i enable Data connectivity in GSM mode. Also in phone mode in GSM i have always the homescreen toggle problem.
I contacted HTC, they say its a known error, and they are working on a fix, but have no release date.
My experience may not compatible to you.
Mine is in China mobile's EDGE network, which is using 1.54's radio.
the data connection(the "E" icon) has a big chance to be lost when switching to new cell station.
I have just upload its radio to 0.16 via RUU, and hopes it would be more robust in switching
pierre.grand said:
Already stated in another thread, I have an issue when using EDGE connectivity.
(HOME button activate on its own and loop)
Can you please feedback here if you have the same issue and also if you use EDGE with no problem?
I was planning to return the phone, but in fact I didn't find any positive feedback...
My HTC One S is running under 1.78 EU
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