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I have always loved tmobile and been with them for quite some time but I think I am done with tmobile. I wrote a rant over at blog that i write for. I am not advertising the blog I just want more people to get exposure to my rant and I want maybe some of you that know more about tmobile to help me understand the process or what I am thinking is wrong.
http://mobilitydigest.com/t-mobile-sucks-do-not-ever-get-tmobile/
When you got the last TP2 with the connection issues did you flash some different radio's to see if that was an issue? Or upgrade to 6.5? I know my connection drastically changed with my TP2 from radio to radio. I see your point and your pissed but you must also see tmo's point. They have sent you 4 TP2's that all failed your inspection even though they passed the refurb inspection. Ironically Blackberry 9700's are selling for $50-$100 more then a TP2 so they are actually upgrading you. You could easily sell your NIB 9700 for $350 and just buy a NIB TP2 for $300 on ebay. So going that route you end up with a brand new TP2 and $50. Seems like a pretty good deal to me. I'll gladly trade you a TILT2 in mint condition or a TP2 in moderate condition + some cash for your 9700.
No i did not flash any radios or anything. it was never suggested to me by the agent i even told him it is on 6.1 and tmobile released a 6.5 should i upgrade to see if something happens and he said no dont do that so i did not. I know radios make a huge difference i was also pissed about the fact that i recieved an older model tp2 so i really did not bother messing with the radios and i wanted tmobile to fix the issue. if their agent said flash this i gladly would have and if the problem was fixed then fine but i was not going suggest a fix for them for a crappy pos refurbished device that i got.
also i know i can sell a black berry 9700 for more and then buy a new tp2 or hd2 which is the route i am going to take first thing tomorrow morning but more than anything it is policy that did not make sense and i just wanted tmobile to fix the problem so i dont have to go through this problem but it seems like I will have to. all i wanted is for them to just give me a new tp2 as part of my warranty replacement program but they wouldn't do that. oh well i will still get what i want but i am done with tmobile when my contract expires.
I hear yah, but look at it from their point of view. You've been through 4 TP2's sending each one back. At that point they must be wondering if their is a flaw in your local tmo network causing it to suck up where you live. After 4 phones they then give you a more expensive phone because their corporate handbook says they have to change phones on you. Give it a bit and think about it a bit and tmo didn't do anything so bad. Its not like their telling your TS, or sending you more refurbs. I'd just sell that bad boy and get you an HD2 like a real man. I know many carriers just getting one replacement is a total hassle and 2 is near impossible, tmo's givin you like 5 phones so far trying to make you happy. I think that deserves a lil thought. As I said I know your pissed right now, but think it over, get your 9700, sell it for $350, go buy an HD2 new in the box on craigslist. And then use your HD2 for a week and think about using your old TP2 or your new HD2 and you'll be singing Tmo songs again in the hallways.
Yup working on getting that Blackberry sold in my local area soon and then getting a HD2 locally and also it was not the same problem every time it was a different issue and being that I know my phones really well I can spot even the smallest problems and it tends to bug me and the fact that i know it is a refurbished makes me look for those problems even more. It is human nature. Anyways we will see, I have a few more months before I am down to the $50 ETF. So the day I hit that mark I am out of contract and will start looking for new phones unless tmobile changes something on me again.
Wow, thats crazy.. I have a similar problem with a Samsung phone when I first got to T-mobile in '07. I would call and complain because the phone kept giving me the same problems over and over. Even my mum was getting them (had the same phone) and it got to the point where they upgraded her line to a Blackberry Peral and I had to be stuck with a pos Samsung T-629. It got to the point where I basically went on craigslist and bought a sidekick. Since I've been with them their service has gotten better and the tech reps have been more helpful. But especially to the fact that some people know more when it comes to their phones than the tech reps themself why bother complaining when you could always try and fix it yourself? Thats how I looked at it, but I know how exactly how you feel.
I'm on day 29 of my 30 day buyers remorse. Still love the phone but the GPS issues irk me. Also the fact that I paid $199 while others are getting it for free bugged me. So, I dialed 611 and spoke to an agent. They informed me that they are aware of the GPS issue and then transferred me to a acct negotiator rep ( or whatever term they are using).
I explained to them that my 30 days was nearly up and the GPS issue still hasn't been resolved. Also that I was irritated that I paid 199 while other stores were giving the phone away for free. (I then suggested that maybe AT&T gave the phones away because they knew about the GPS issue). I said I was thinking of taking it back and going with a different provider. They then came back and offered my a $199 credit and if I wanted to I could talk to a top level tech about adjusting my GPS. I took the credit but there obviously was no point in talking to the top tier tech rep.
so yea for me, a free Captivate + taxes. And I suppose the GPS fix will be out in a month or so. Really the GPS is the only issue that's bugging me now...
did they have to get into your phone in any way?
if thats the case it might be worth a shot.
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did they have to get into your phone in any way?
if thats the case it might be worth a shot.
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nope. they just said 'thanks for being a loyal customer'... i don't think they can just "get into my phone" anyway, can they? This was all over the phone, I didn't go into a store or anything.
Too bad in Ga the remorse period is only 20 days...didnt work for me
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I tried and didn't work for me. She just said that I will still have an 11 month warranty so if the phone still has problems 11 months from now I can exchange it for a brand new one... for free. I asked her to clarify that I wouldn't need to pay for anything and she said absolutely not. She said she would "note it" on my account that I can exchange the phone for the exact same one for up to the next 11 months.
Darn.. I wanted a free phone though.
Yeah I ended up taking mine back (I paid the full price so I can keep my month to month in case I want to jump at some point), but seeing that we can get them for free makes me think that once Samsung fixes this issue and (hopefully?) we get 2.2 I will go ahead and snag one of these again.
wow they just told me I could not extend the buyers remorse period and that if I don't like the performance of the phone I should return it. and that is that. I said but ATT doesn't have any android phones on par with the captivate... but verizon does and he says then maybe I should go with verizon. if that is what will make me happy because they want happy customers.
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This has really got me thinking hard about jumping ship now... My sister just got an HTC Incredible on Verizon and she loves it.... I know its not quite the galaxy S but hey with a fully functional aGPS and a Froyo update around the corner who is going to notice the difference. Maybe I can family plan it up with her.
There's a bunch of folks that have been doing the same thing, and most HAVE received some kind of credit back. I tried last night, and jumped through a number of hoops, making it almost not even worth all the hassle, but this afternoon I was credited $100 to my account. I've heard anywhere from 100-199. I guess it all depends on the manager you are speaking with at the time.
They technically do not have to give you a credit back, because essentially it is price matching, which they do not do. So hopefully those that are planning on trying, get a customer service rep and or manager that is in a GOOD mood.
What if we bought the phone through best buy? Can we still talk to att about the issue?
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I bought mine through amazon wireless... and yes they asked where I bought it. so it might matter to your success in getting a credit if you went direct through att... If I return I have to return to Amazon and then deal with ATT for the service plan restructure.
the warranty is a year I believe so you can probably do a 1:1 swap as was stated above.
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Just remember that warranty replacements are refurbished units, not new ones...
replacing a year old unit with a refurbished unit sounds good to me.
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What if we bought the phone through best buy? Can we still talk to att about the issue?
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I actually bought mine from best buy. They didn't ask me where I bought it.
I tired and the lady was like totally ignoring what I was saying. She was like well if you want you can take back to the store and get a refund. I was like whatever!
She looked up the GPS issue in the system and all it had was to enable use wireless networks. I was like that only enables cell tower location, doesn't help with GPS issues. System had nothing about a update or anything. So odd you find variations. This was the business premier services too. So tempted to change carriers but after 12 years .... You would think they would take care of you. Last time I called though they gave me 3000 roll over minutes so I guess I can't complain.
You must be like my friend and have an ability with dealing with companies... lol.
sorry to thread jack but where are people getting free captivates from? does anyone know if any of those places allow you to keep your unlimited data plan?
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sorry to thread jack but where are people getting free captivates from? does anyone know if any of those places allow you to keep your unlimited data plan?
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Originally walmart.com (letstalk.com) had it for free and then went to $99. Most places I have seen for $99. tigerdirect.com mypoints.com, cellstore.com, are all $99. I think you can keep your dataplan, one of the sites had a wizard that would check your account, I think it was tigerdirect.
I called them and was able to get a $75 credit to my account. I was out of my 30 days as well. I told them that I used it to log when I go out running, and my routes were choppy and it was recording that I was running mcuh more than I actually was. I made the comment that if it was a $50 phone, like I see it advertised at some places, I wouldn't have as big an issue, but seeing as it was $199, I expect it to work how it's advertised.
I have no issues with my GPS...takes a few seconds to lock on but it's not a big deal to me
T-mobile has made recent changes that go against everything that they stood for, everything that made them who they are. I have been reading more and more reports of inferior customer service compared to how they used to be. I have seen where people are informed that tmobile can no longer wave fees for longtime customers in good standing. I have personally been told that I could upgrade for phones from the Samsung vibrant to the galaxy s 4g with the full upgrade discount because of issues with the GPS. It was still going to cost $250 per phone ($1000+tax). I was not able to afford all of that at once and asked if I could do 2 now and 2 later. The gentleman told that would not be a problem, the upgrade offer was in my notes and would be available whenever I wanted to upgrade. I made it a point to ask again and he assured me “if I waited 2 weeks or 6 months” that offer would be there. I waited 1 bill cycle so that the cost would be on two separate bills and called back. Now they say they cannot honor that offer as it was a “1 time offer that I should have taken then”. After going around and around with the rep and then his “supervisor “, I was told that it was actually no longer possible for them to override upgrade dates in the system anymore. Even if you have been with tmobile for 10+ years and never had a late payment, like I have. It was like a whole different attitude when you talk to them , like your talking to att customer service or something.
*UPDATE* So, I just got off the phone with t-mobile... again. They are making it right. After 2 hours on the phone and then the original guy I talked to calling me back, I am getting it fixed. Yea! It was weird, he was like "I don't understand why they didn't just do it." He also said (but he could have been lied to) that t-mobile cust service rep's were told that they would all be kept on as at&t reps and they would be "training" the att reps in cust service. Two different reps told me that they had system changes in the last month and that they could not do all the things they used to be able to do. I hope I am totally wrong, and t-mobile stays the same great "#1 cust service" company I've come to know and love.
Use the same trick as any other customer service desk...call again till you get a rep who will give you the answer you want.
so, because you have one problem with a crap phone you shouldnt have bought, because the issue you have was well known since the phone came out, and t mobile wont bend over and give you whatever you want, you are saying things are declining?? its sounds more like a bitter customer who is bitterly trying to convince people of something that is clearly not happening.
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so, because you have one problem with a crap phone you shouldnt have bought, because the issue you have was well known since the phone came out, and t mobile wont bend over and give you whatever you want, you are saying things are declining?? its sounds more like a bitter customer who is bitterly trying to convince people of something that is clearly not happening.
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Negative. I love the vibrant and sgs4g. My problem is I was told I could upgrade because the gps was nonfunctioning, then a few weeks later I was told I could not. That is poor customer service. I have always defended tmobile when people complained. When you call in (and I have called 3 different times) you can just hear a difference in their tone. It's like they honestly do not care if they keep you as a customer or not. I have never had this feeling from tmobile in the 10+ years I've been with them.
I know it's a dead horse. And some people get have different results. But yesterday I tried to exchange my G2X due to freezing, reboots, and lock ups while on wall charger (running official GB). (This is still my first G2X, my past exchange attempt was to get less screen bleed which failed.)
This time the agent told me they are aware of issues post update install and can do nothing. Then they told me I have to wait until LG has a fix. This is the same results I got when I complained of screen bleed and was denied a replacement due to that.
I usually don't get too excited, but based on principal this is beat. I know it's nothing new to some of you but I'm not sure where to go next. I really want to see if LG will ever own up to this and anything else, but I'm sure my issues are hardware based.
T-Mobile: There is a known issue with this phone after the 2.3 update. At this time, there is no further information I need.
T-Mobile: LG is aware of this issue and are working closely to resolve the issue.
Francis Scardino: ok.
T-Mobile: I am unable to process an exchange for you.
T-Mobile: I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
Francis Scardino: So what do I do?
T-Mobile: You would have to wait until LG comes to a resolution for this issue.
Francis Scardino: I was told that last time about the light bleeding through the screen issues. The phone is not really reliable right now and I need it for work and do not have a home phone. There must be another resolution.
T-Mobile: I definitely understand, Francis. However, this phone does have a few known issues. This is the only thing that we can advise you of.
Francis Scardino: That's quite disappointing. I understand you can only do what you are allowed to do, but I have to find some other resolution. I cannot afford for my phone to turn off while charging at night, my job requires 24 hour on call.
Francis Scardino: Is there an escalation contact I can call. I have to come up with something other than buying a new phone. This one is not very old.
Francis Scardino: I just changed my contract to 2 years, and there is no equipment discount. I'm stuck.
T-Mobile: Unfortunately, there is no escalation process for this issue.
T-Mobile: We can set up call forwarding so that whoever calls your cell phone it will go to another phone.
Try to actually go into a T-Mobile store and make a big deal there
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I hate to say it, laissez-faire kinda guy that I am, but we need some kind of consumer protection legislation to prevent this kind of passing the buck.
Get on the phone and call a live person - ask for tech support, not a customer rep.
Sorry to hear that. I am currently on my second (freezing 3x a day) phone and I was offered another G2X exchange but I refused it. I told them they were just passing around refurb junk sent in by other G2X owners. To my surprise, I was offered a full upgrade (Got Tmobile in April 2011 with 2 year contract). It was a customer service rep that actually gave me that. I thought it was bs so I called back a week later to verify that the early full upgrade was noted in my account and it is. I would only be able to get a phone at the Tmobile website or at a corporate store. They said it would be 80% off the retail price. I am waiting for the Samsung Hercules to use that early full upgrade. I'm pretty sure they log every time you called in with notes of the reason of the call. I called in about 5 times (at least) so I think that's why I was offered the early upgrade. I would try calling in again at a different time. Try early morning around 7AM and then 8PM. That way you wont get the same person. You will get different results with different people you speak with. Call them again and good luck.
I was able to get another replacement overnighted to me yesterday... It should be here today. I did it all through the Live Chat online. I told them my phone would shutoff by itself, and it would require a battery pull, and he issued a replacement for me.
If I were you, I would just keep on trying until they offered to send you a replacement. It's worth multiple tries.
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I hate to say it, laissez-faire kinda guy that I am, but we need some kind of consumer protection legislation to prevent this kind of passing the buck.
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And you care about concealing water damage for the purpose of returning it to these thieves? T-Mobile knows for a damn fact there is good G2X's out there. They just don't want to give this gug another one in fear he might get another damaged G2X since it appears to be a 75% chance he would. Exchanging phones cost them money but they could give a **** less that we spent our hard earned money for a phone that we sometimes can't even use.
We signed a contract with T-Mobile and they entered into a contract with us to provide use with products and service as advertised. You see. I believe in a eye for a eye and two wrongs do make a right. You **** me over and I will **** you over twice as bad
Tmobile customer service is going to ****. Hear you have someone who's phone is not working as expected but they don't want to exchange it because it costs them money. T-Mobile knows there are good G2X'w out there. If all of them had problems then every customer who has one would be calling. I don't even care about the merger anymore. Its apparent T-Mobile is prepping for it quite well.
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I will certainly try again. I just can't wonder if this whole debacle will ever bring a full resolution. Is LG working on something? Are they just buying time to phase it out? What will those who have similar results like me have in the future? Will a fully fixed G2x ever hit the shelves..?
Anyone who got a replacement within the last week, what model number phone did you get?
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And you care about concealing water damage for the purpose of returning it to these thieves? T-Mobile knows for a damn fact there is good G2X's out there. They just don't want to give this gug another one in fear he might get another damaged G2X since it appears to be a 75% chance he would. Exchanging phones cost them money but they could give a **** less that we spent our hard earned money for a phone that we sometimes can't even use.
We signed a contract with T-Mobile and they entered into a contract with us to provide use with products and service as advertised. You see. I believe in a eye for a eye and two wrongs do make a right. You **** me over and I will **** you over twice as bad
Tmobile customer service is going to ****. Hear you have someone who's phone is not working as expected but they don't want to exchange it because it costs them money. T-Mobile knows there are good G2X'w out there. If all of them had problems then every customer who has one would be calling. I don't even care about the merger anymore. Its apparent T-Mobile is prepping for it quite well.
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T-Mo doesn't want o give him another phone because they will have to pay for it out of their own pocket. LG will not give you a new phone because they are incompetent manufacturers, along with being liars and thieves, ...while T-Mo simply can't afford to give away phones that they have to pay for.
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T-Mo doesn't want o give him another phone because they will have to pay for it out of their own pocket. LG will not give you a new phone because they are incompetent manufacturers, along with being liars and thieves, ...while T-Mo simply can't afford to give away phones that they have to pay for.
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T-Mobile can afford it. Their a multi billion dollar company. They sold you a phone to use on their network and it is up to them to make sure it works as advertised for 1 year from purchase. After this ends, T-Mobile can try to recupe their losses from LG but its known policy, their responsible for making sure that phone works within the first year providing the damage was not done by the customer. There is no ifs ands or butts about it. It is what it is and their beating around the bush. Do you think the middle class wooing man has enough money to keep buying phones because its provider wont provide him with a working one? This is bad business and you know it. I don't care if returning G2X's placed them into bankruptcy. The customer is always right and they must fix it.
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it is up to them to make sure it works as advertised for 1 year from purchase.
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Incorrect.
The manufacturer is responsible for the warranty in virtually every industry.
Yeah I had no luck with chat support I had to call in when the replacement was bad.
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Incorrect.
The manufacturer is responsible for the warranty in virtually every industry.
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Yes, the manufacture is ultimately responsible for the warranty but it is up to your providor to be the middle man and exchange the phone for you. They then send the defective phone back to the manufacture to be fixed, replaced or reimbursed.
It is up to the company you purchased the phone from to replace the phone. I didn't buy a phone from LG. I gave my money to T-Mobile who purchased the phone from LG. If I purchase the phone through Amazon then I would contact them for a replacement. If I buy a phone from a middle man than I expect that middle man to fulfill their end of the deal by making sure the device they sold me is not defective and can be used as advertised.
Its a very simple concept for anyone to understand. I know this to be the case since T-Mobile, the middle man exchanges multiple phones every single day.
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If you purchase a product from Best Buy or Walmart, and that product fails after the retailer's return policy has expired you are almost certainly responsible for contacting the manufacturer yourself. Most retailers have 30 day or even 14 day return policies depending on the product.
Arguing with you is like shooting fish in a barrel... you haven't made a valid point yet!
This whole G2X thing is garbage anyways.
Three months ago, I called into T-Mobile and did a contract renewal. I ordered 4 G2X's and 1 Defy for my 11 year old daughter...never would I have thought the Defy would be the best device in the bunch. It just works.
I called in within the first week about the phones shutting off, GPS taking over 25 minutes on 1 device to get a lock and was assured its all software and that LG is getting ready to release a software upgrade that will fix the issues, I should have sent them back and been done at that point instead of trusting what T-Mobile told me. Instead I had 4 replacements sent at one time, sent 3 of them back as they were worse than the originals. T-Mobile then sent me 3 more, fail. When I called back I asked to just send them back and was told i was past my 14 day period, even though it was noted on my account that I had called in previously in regards to sending them back and was told about the software update...that didnt change anything.
Next they decided the batteries were bad so they sent me 4 batteries, well that didnt solve a damn thing. They had me at that point contact LG, that got me a big "your a consumer, we cant offer any details on an updated software, but if you like you can send your phones back to us and we will send you replacements or fix the ones you have". Basically no go with that either.
Back to calling T-Mobile as I noticed now I had $100.00 charge on my bill for them sending me replacement phones!! The lines with insurance were only charged 5 bucks, the other 2 were charged $20!! They were unwilling to waive the fee's when I called about them! However they offered me replacement phones again if I wanted, and naturally at $50 bucks shipping again, I said no I wont pay for shipping again and finally got to loyalty and they waived the shipping if I wanted to try again, which knowing it wouldnt help did anyways just for the chance..I was right, it didnt help.
Then finally the wonderful, magical, all ending software update came...ta-da! Finally! Nope, wait. Still have the same issues, just not nearly as often as before. It seems to be about once a day now that one of the phones will shut off randomly, The GPS is a bit better on 3 of the phones but mine, nope. Still takes a good 10 minutes to get a lock.
When I called T-Mobile to tell them this great "fix" they were promising me didnt do a damn thing they said they know, and that the software update had been recalled but LG is currently working on a fix and to just give it time, they would not offer me anymore replacements as it doesnt seem to fix "MY" issues..lol, wtf T-Mobile. Kiss my ass.
I ended up filling a complaint with the BBB, I dont know if it will help or do anything at all but honestly, way I see it is it cant hurt. That was Sunday evening, I dont know how long it takes to hear anything back, or if I will at all but we will see.
T-Mobile use to be awesome, I am an old SunCom customer and when T-Mobile took over SunCom I was leery of what may become of the company I loved, T-Mobile really stepped it up and I had no complaints, recently though they pretty much just suck. I dont know what provider I will go with next but it wont be T-Mobile, yet I hate Verizon, Sprints horrible, AT&T with the merger..maybe I dont need phones anymore lol ffs.
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I will certainly try again. I just can't wonder if this whole debacle will ever bring a full resolution. Is LG working on something? Are they just buying time to phase it out? What will those who have similar results like me have in the future? Will a fully fixed G2x ever hit the shelves..?
Anyone who got a replacement within the last week, what model number phone did you get?
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My replacement just came in about an hour ago with Gingerbread pre-installed. The model number is LG-P999DW. (Checked LG Updated), so it is NOT a refurb!
Dude this is EXACTLY what's happened to me. I've had 4 exchanges and the caller rep said very matter of factly 'Sorry, we can no longer offer you a G2x exchange. Either keep the G2x you have or we'll send you out a comparable phone, the G2.' I got into explaining how that decision doesn't make any sense since I'm holding up my end of the deal by paying my bill...blah, blah, blah. And he said 'The device I'm told I can offer you today is the G2.' By some of the responses, I guess I'll just keep calling in until someone breaks down. I would LOVE to get $$ toward a Hercules, but it sounds like that's the good fortune of who you talk to.
Dude this is EXACTLY what's happened to me. I've had 4 exchanges and the caller rep said very matter of factly 'Sorry, we can no longer offer you a G2x exchange. Either keep the G2x you have or we'll send you out a comparable phone, the G2.' I got into explaining how that decision doesn't make any sense since I'm holding up my end of the deal by paying my bill...blah, blah, blah. And he said 'The device I'm told I can offer you today is the G2.' By some of the responses, I guess I'll just keep calling in until someone breaks down. I would LOVE to get $$ toward a Hercules, but it sounds like that's the good fortune of who you talk to.
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If you purchase a product from Best Buy or Walmart, and that product fails after the retailer's return policy has expired you are almost certainly responsible for contacting the manufacturer yourself. Most retailers have 30 day or even 14 day return policies depending on the product.
Arguing with you is like shooting fish in a barrel... you haven't made a valid point yet!
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Best Buy and Wal-Mart provide you merchandice but not a service. You don't pay them a monthly fee to lease a product from them. If you sign a contract and purchase a phone for the subsidized price, you are pretty much leasing the phone.
T-Mobile has been exchanging devices with the first year since I can remember. Hell, they exchanged 5 G2X's for me and 3 Sensations within the past 4 months. You can provide a service for one of your customers and not the next. An attorney would eat this alive in a court of law. By their POLICY they need to provide you with a working replacement or exchange your device for another comparable one of equal or lesser value. They CANT just tell you to suck it up and keep paying them monthly for something that doesn't work.
I don't understand why you can't comprehend this. Instead you want to compare Best Buy to a mobile service providor which is apples and oranges. Last time I checked. You don't enter into a contract or pay a monthly fee for a service to Best Buy.
Get off Tmobiles nuts and realize your wrong.
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Very interesting discussion...
I can tell you in no uncertain terms that ultimately LG is responsible for the product. The argument that you "Bought" the phone from T-Mobile, or you "leased" the product from T-Mobile is invalid. Your warranty is with LG.
We were all allowed 14 or 30 days to return the phone. Of course most of us held out for the "update/fix" until it was too late to return.
THIS is why I worked to find another remedy to the situation and ultimately had the class action law suit filed.
For any of you wanting further information about the CAL, contact my attorney directly.
http://www.doylelowther.com/class-action-against-lg-electronics-p999g2x/
So I currently have a Motorola Droid X2... I use cyanogenmod 7.2rc1 beta2 as a custom ROM. Besides that for stable ROMs it's really only eclipse 2.2, liberty, molten or stock 2.3.5 rooted. cm9/miui4 are both in alpha stages of development and have no working camera/data usage yet and mms is shotty as well as other glitches & bugs. having the locked bootloader and all. Plus we don't get official ICS :banghead::thumbdown:
I had a few questions... First off, my 2 year contract with Verizon Wireless USA is over in December however I am eligible for an upgrade in August. I think I remember reading somewhere after all these VZW/MOTO shenanigans you can get a free 3g upgrade, if eligible, but need to renew contract for a 4g device. I'm obviously very confused by these changes and need clarification.. Basically what I'm asking is, would I be able to cop a new phone in August without having to re-up my contract? Use the upgrade for the remaining months and then sell it along with my X2? Not sure how that works and honestly I don't want to call Verizon about it until I'm due for my upgrade.
Moving on to my next problem. I am going to need a new carrier/phone. I figure since sprint still has unlimited data and their service in my area isn't that bad compared to Verizon, I'll probably sign with them. As far as actual devices are concerned, I will only buy a phone with an unlocked bootloader. Since Motorola failed to live up to their promise of unlocking their bootloaders by the end of 2011, and their overall customer support, I am not interested in purchasing any Moto phones.
Which brings me back to Sprint, lol. I know several people who have been on Sprint for a long time and tell me they're okay as long as you don't break your phone. I've heard countless horror stories of friends/family having to jump through countless hoops just to get their defective phone replaced. I've already left AT&T and will never go back to them so my options are pretty limited. I can deal with less than perfect customer support from time to time as long as I have reliable service and a reliable phone I can hack.
I've been looking at the Dinc2, since my friend has one. I know that's unlocked already. I've heard a lot of fuss over its pentile screen, but that honestly doesn't bother me much. So that can be taken into consideration as well.
I appreciate any opinions you can personally offer as to an awesome, unlocked phone, decent carriers as well as new phone releases you are looking forward to. I'd love to hear what unlocked devices you guys have as well as your favorite custom ROMs for them.
Thanks!
Cyanogenmod all day
Well, if you upgrade your phone, you're more than likely going to have to re-up your contract for an additional 2 years. As of right now, for Verizon, I would probably look at the HTC Rezound, or Incredible 4G. If you go to Sprint, I would look at the Evo 4G LTE (HTC One for Sprint), or the Evo Design 4G, but by December, you'll also have the Galaxy S3 to consider. I'm biased towards HTC phones personally, but those are the options I would look at.
I forgot to mention I'm on a family plan with unlimited data...
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I can't really suggest a phone but I read that you mentioned people having problems with Sprint with getting phones replaced after they get broke.
My sister is good at messing phones up and with the $8 a month insurance you basically can hardball any phone at a wall and they will replace it for $100. I think the one thing is you just never say that you did anything wrong and most sprint stores don't care. They have gotten much better. Whatever you do don't break your phone without insurance because they wont touch the phone in fear you might swear they broke it. Get the phone insured from day one if you are accident prone. That is about all the advice I can give. They have good phones and have good service (not verizon service but still good.)
Yeah, I treat these phones like royalty. Basically it's just a computer in the palm of my hand... Accidents do happen though and I always protect all devices with insurance.
I was in Sprint once with a friend of mine. Keep in mind he wasn't a smartphone owner, but this wasn't too long ago. He had a flip phone and he wanted it replaced. It was his 4th device experiencing the same hardware problems. When we got in there Sprint did pretty much everything in their power to make sure he did not leave with a brand new replacement. They went as far as to literally take the phone apart - right in front of us - and replace internal hardware. They'd put it back together and he'd show them it still wasn't working and they would try replacing something else.
Two and a half hours later of playing with the display evo and listening to "No I don't want you to fix it I want a new phone" and "Here, maybe this will fix it, let's give it a try..." we were finally out of there. They did not give a replacement that day. Just "fixed" it. Until we got back to his house. The very next day I was there when he called customer support. They gave him the business over the phone and were 0 help. We went back to the sprint store and finally got his replacement. I think the only reason they even actually helped him with a new device is because he was mad enough to break every display case and cell phone in the place - and they knew it. It wasn't like a "here let me help you get this resolved so you can enjoy your phone and service!!" Kinda deal it was more like "get him a new phone from the back so he doesn't make a scene and gets the hell out of my store" thing .... As we were leaving, the female rep not only told us we were lucky we even got a replacement in the first place- she did it in a snobby, attitude riddled tone of voice.
For reference this is when I was thinking of terminating vzw early and jumping to sprint. My friend told me sprint is full of people who either don't give two damns or are just plain stupid. He took me along to give me an idea of what I was in for. Needless to say I didn't switch.....
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