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I was hoping to get all the AT&T Fuze owner's two cents about the device. I'm an AT&T customer with a Cingular 8125, ready to upgrade. I've been poking through XDA-Developers for a while, trying to get a feel for what the XDA-Dev community could do for what I found to be a disappointing performance from the stock Fuze device I tried at the AT&T store.
Right now I'm looking to either upgrade to an AT&T Fuze, or spend a little more and get an unlocked T-Mobile G1 (I'm also drooling over the Palm Pre, but I don't think that's coming to AT&T any time soon).
I guess what I'm trying to get a sense of is... did flashing a custom rom significantly improve the Fuze's response time? And, if its at all possible to predict at this point, is an Android port to the Raphael inevitable, in a fully functional build? The TouchXperience thread gives me hope, but I don't want to drop $350 on a device that doesn't live up to its specs.
What do you guys think?
IMO, flashing a custom ROM completely changed the device. The stock ROM was slow and sluggish and not very responsive (especially with the TouchFlo interface).
I've tried a few custom ROMs and they've all been HUGE improvements over the stock ROM. They all have their own flavor of apps and customizations, so you just have to find the one that best matches your needs. If you like the stock theme (the grey one), then try NotATreoFan's ROM.
On the downside, there are some negatives about it, but I'm still extremely happy with it. GPS seems to have some lag, but after doing some tweaks it is still within my acceptable limits. The battery doesn't last very long if you're a heavy user. I'm a light user compared to many, so the battery hasn't been an issue for me. It attracts fingerprints pretty bad, but again, I can live with it.
I think the VGA screen is amazing and I'm not sure if I could go back to a regular QVGA screen.
As far as Android, I haven't really read much about porting it for a TP, but I've heard where even the G1 isn't really ready for prime time yet. If you want Android, then I would get an Android phone. I wouldn't wait for someone to port it because it may or may not happen.
With Sprint I had the 700wx, Q, Touch (Vogue)...the Touch was my favorite PDA with Sprint because it was so small (I don't really need a physical keyboard).
With AT&T I've had the Tilt and now the Fuze. The Fuze is still a little big for my liking. The Blackstone is probably more my size, but who knows when AT&T will get it and how much it'll be. I think the Fuze blows away the Tilt after doing custom ROMs.
I would also suggest flashing a different radio. If you don't mind paying about $20, I would get security unlocked and flash a Blackstone radio. They give me superb call clarity compared to the stock radio.
I had an 8125 and a Tilt. Now I have a Fuze.
Frankly, the Fuze is fine and doesn't need to be salvaged...it is that much better than the 8125 and the 8925 (Tilt).
I have ditched TouchFlo for a Today Screen running phoneAlarm, Pocket Breeze and Pocket Weather (see the screen shot) and used the advanced configurator to speed up the overall performance and enable 3.5G services.
Very easy. no muss, no fuss.
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I was hoping to get all the AT&T Fuze owner's two cents about the device. I'm an AT&T customer with a Cingular 8125, ready to upgrade. I've been poking through XDA-Developers for a while, trying to get a feel for what the XDA-Dev community could do for what I found to be a disappointing performance from the stock Fuze device I tried at the AT&T store.
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Ya know, when I looked at Fuzes (and TP's at Sprint) at the store, they didn't work so well, either. You have to realize that the demo's get pretty abused, and that they probably haven't had a soft reset since they were taken out of the box. You get a bunch of knuckleheads in the store opening up every program on the device without shutting them down, and when you go in to check it out, it works like crap. This could have been the problem you found. I know that a couple of the ones I looked at were completely frozen-I knew they needed a reset, but had no idea how to do it at the time (the reset hole is tiny-it's just next to the usb port and requires the stylus to activate it).
I had no idea what I was even getting when I purchased my Fuze. I hadn't even see the thing, or tried someone elses TP.
I ran the stock ROM for about 2 weeks, in case it had any issues. It was terrible, extremely slow, and overall it sucked. I then flashed a few ROM's and noticed a huge improvement.
I now run RSW's Fuze ROM and love it. The GPS locks fairly quickly, and everything works like a breeze. I didn't want all the extra jumble on the phone, so this ROM worked great for me.
There are still a few drawbacks, such as someone above mentioned - GPS lag. I expect this from this type of device. I've got a handheld GPS, and I'd much rather use it than my phone for navigating. The battery does drain, but I have had good luck with it. GPS will kill it, but that is about it. I play Sudoku/Teeter/Solitaire throughout my day, and make a few phone calls, as well as send texts and view things online. I still manage to have decent battery life by the time I get home at night.
I'm pretty content with the phone overall. I came from a non-smartphone, so this was a big leap (and 2 months later I'm still adjusting to some things).
I had a TYTN II (tilt) now a Fuze. Both saw a stock ROM for all of 2 seconds. Personally the fuze is much better than the tilt. I've never worked with Android but in a fe software generations I'm sure it will be great....but its still in its infancy.
I will wait a bit before trying it out.
My two cents
I've got the Fuze I love it and flashing a custom rom (had the at&t one on there for 2 months) was great the phone is 100% faster and so much more responsive and i know once XDA has some more time with this then the few small downfalls will disappear
I had asked the same question before buying my FUZE. Out of the box, it is severely crippled.
After reading tyguy's great article:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459335
I was able to have a completely different device with little effort. I've since flashed a new ROM and can't say enough about how great this device is. TouchFLO is incredibly responsive, I have all the apps I could possibly want, and I've even managed to tweak it to get a little longer battery life.
I was very leery about getting this phone, but now I'm completely happy with it.
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Ya know, when I looked at Fuzes (and TP's at Sprint) at the store, they didn't work so well, either. You have to realize that the demo's get pretty abused, and that they probably haven't had a soft reset since they were taken out of the box. You get a bunch of knuckleheads in the store opening up every program on the device without shutting them down, and when you go in to check it out, it works like crap. This could have been the problem you found. I know that a couple of the ones I looked at were completely frozen-I knew they needed a reset, but had no idea how to do it at the time (the reset hole is tiny-it's just next to the usb port and requires the stylus to activate it).
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That and the stylus ends up stolen after about 2 weeks.
Where do you get all these Fuze tools?
I see everyone talking about the ROMs, radios, gps, and such.
Where can one find these for download?
Is there a list that tells what each does?
I just got the Fuze. This is all new for me and is my
first smart phone. Any guidance would be great!
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That and the stylus ends up stolen after about 2 weeks.
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The ones that I looked at actually had the stylus glued or taped in, so you couldn't do a soft reset if you wanted to.
The XDA-Wiki is your friend....
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I see everyone talking about the ROMs, radios, gps, and such.
Where can one find these for download?
Is there a list that tells what each does?
I just got the Fuze. This is all new for me and is my
first smart phone. Any guidance would be great!
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Try that first.....
or this
blownfuze.org
Flash your Fuze. I'm using Da_G's bare roms which will strip everything down to bare Windows Mobile default apps. The phone screams.
I still use a few HTC modifications, like the Dialer app and Volume control... but all of that crap is eye candy and sucks.
Da_G seems to really be leading the pack with his roms. There have been numerous advances to the drivers... especially the graphics and GPS.
The only thing I think could be better about the Fuze is the buttons. I don't think any of them are programmable on a stock rom. With the most recent roms, we've gotten all of the buttons remappable (both single press and long press) except the Home, Back, and Volume Keys.
There are tons of new innovative applications coming about every day that make the Fuze easier and easier to use. The Fuze/Touch Pro is relatively new. I know the community will solve all of the short comings one day. There are tons of ROMS, hacks, and tweaks already available for this phone. Windows Mobile 6.5 is already underway and I'm pretty confident we'll see Windows Mobile 7 as well.
If you are looking for a phone for the long haul, I think the Fuze is a good choice.
I jumped from the 8525 to the Fuze. I researched and had the downloaded the ROM I wanted and Hard-SPL before I bought my Fuze. I also had downloaded a couple applications I found here at XDA, TouchLockPro and Lumos. The stock ROM was on my Fuze about 10 minutes while I checked that it was working properly. I loved my 8525, but I would never go back. I love my Fuze even more except for the GSP issue. I found a fix here that gets me a lock quickly, but it is still a little flaky and sometimes does not get a lock as quick as I would like. I have not had to use it yet, but I still keep my old bluetooth GPS in my car just in case. I also love having VGA back. I had a Dell X50v before the 8525 and loved the VGA screen and missed it on the 8525, but the Fuze is VGA. I just wish somebody would put the 625 MHz processor and graphics accelerator the X50v had in a smartphone.
I jumped. I went from Samsung Blackjack I > AT&T Tilt > HTC Fuze. Best phone I've had so far. People say it's fat and whatever. I would really ditch the HTC fuze if I didn't use it for all the features. The iPhone is good for playing games and showing off. The fuze is good to actually use. I mean the camera is good, I actually use video out and use it to listen to music. Love it, don't really care for battery life either since I charge it every night. Could care less about the weight. So it's all your choice
If you want a lightweight phone that has plenty of battery is and good for doing multimedia, get the iPhone or Touch HD. I'm thinking about upgrading to a Touch HD since I use the on-screen keyboard a lot anyways and on a bigger screen, it's easier also. It seems like it's worth it. If you don't care about size or battery and need a hardware keyboard, get the Fuze and you won't be disappointed.
I bought a replacement for my 8525. I love the Fuze. Using the stock rom was okay. But after switching to a different rom. The speed increased pretty darn good. Fuze is a good device for years to come.
where do you get the ROMs and how do you install them?
I had a Fuze (coming from a Motorola Q9h) for about a week and a half before returning it. My main complaints were the sub-standard speakerphone, difficulty getting a GPS lock, and slightly worse RF reception compared to the Q9h. I tried the various GPS fixes listed here with varying results and tried several tweaked AudioPara3 files to improve the speakerphone volume, but couldn't find one that upped the volume without distortion or static on the other end.
I really liked the form factor and found the phone to be responsive after following the instructions in the "AT&T Fuze noobs..." thread. I really wanted to like the phone but I use the speakerphone a lot at home and I live in a marginal reception area (lots of trees - reception gets noticeably worse in the spring/summer when the leaves grow back) and the Q9h excelled in both of those areas. If those things don't matter to you the Fuze is a great phone and I'd definitely recommend it.
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I jumped. I went from Samsung Blackjack I > AT&T Tilt > HTC Fuze. Best phone I've had so far.
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Went from Blackjack 1 -> Fuze
Huge difference. Glad I did the jump because the community and the chefs are damn good and working hard to make this phone better.
Used Da_G's on my blackjack, slide panels ftw!
jctn93 said:
I just got the Fuze. This is all new for me and is my
first smart phone. Any guidance would be great!
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Take a look here first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459335
So, I am looking to get a new phone in the coming month and it has come down to the Eris and the Imagio. Both of which are going for 100 bucks on my carrier so price is not a factor.
What is a factor to me is the screen(not the size, but color, quality/durability & responsiveness), call quality, audio/speaker quality, battery life, and durability. Which one of these is better/averaged out better in these categories? Which is the faster, more enjoyable device?
I understand OS plays a factors, but I am open to both really. I have a WM 6.1 device right now so I am find with WM, but Android is the new kid on the block and kind of interested in using it. I don't use much software on WM other than Opera Mobile/Mini(use both based on what I need to do), SPB, reg hacking and MS Office Mobile. I would think there are viable replacement for most of these? But, then comes the fact that when I last used touchflow 3D, I wasn't too fond of it. And the newer Sense on the Touch HD2 improves that but still it feels a bit chunky in my mind. Is the Sense UI on Android similar or is it much better? I would think Android 2.0 would make the Eris better, and that WM6.5.2(1?) will also bring some minor but better improvements? So, any ideas?
Thank you.
bump please?
pdadb is your solution!
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2080&id2=1784
I was looking for user opinions and thoughts as that site won't tell me which one has the better quality screen or which feels better to use.
Of the two which has the better on-screen keyboard?
About a week ago I was looking at the same two devices [Imagio Vs. Eris] and debating which one to get, as I was switching from T-mobile over to Verizon. I ended up going with the Eris because it seems to be more responsive, the on-screen keyboard is MUCH better on the Eris in my opinion, and it feels nicer in your palm. I would suggest going to a Verizon store and Trying both working display models, if you haven't done so already to really see which one you like better. I am too, a long time fan of WM and I think you can do a lot more with WM because it's easier to hack, simply because it's been around much longer.
Valid point of WM being around more. Which did you think felt more durable? And which screen did you find more accurate? I would go in store but the closest one to me only had display models of both. Also, was is easy transferring your text from your WM phone to the Eris? Thanks.
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Valid point of WM being around more. Which did you think felt more durable? And which screen did you find more accurate? I would go in store but the closest one to me only had display models of both. Also, was is easy transferring your text from your WM phone to the Eris? Thanks.
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I believe that both phones were equal in accuracy although the Eris was a tiny bit quicker. The Eris actually has a backing and most of the body, made of material that feels like it has a case [non-slip material], making it feel more secure in your hand, vs. just being more plastic feeling. I still invested in a case and screen protector though. And what specifically do you mean by "transferring your text?".
Anyway you can compare the battery size of the Eris to the HTC Hero from sprint? Seeing as the Hero has a slightly larger battery?
the Hero has a larger battery and lasts a little while longer then the eris.
I know that but will that larger battery fit the Eris?
get the Eris, it has the super trackball which i dont think the imagio has. this is really helpful, I wish my TP2 had one.
I am indifferent to it. However the Imagio is now off my list and replaced with the upcoming Omnia II. I like the fact it has 8gb built in plus and microSD card slot, but at 200 its a bit much. Then there is the Eris with Android, which has a good future(unlike the Omnia where it won't get WM7) and its got a beautiful price of $100. Then I keep reading AMOLED on the Omnia II is fantastic, but the Eris has they better on screen keyboard. Damn having two good choices.
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get the Eris, it has the super trackball which i dont think the imagio has. this is really helpful, I wish my TP2 had one.
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lol great reason to get a phone... you realise those actually fall out of a lot of phones after some use? btw definatly look at battery reviews... the Eris is horrible on battery life i can get 2 days worth out of my imagio, and the eris is said it cant even get half a day with hard use like internet youtube, music.. etc which the imagio can.. they have the same specs accept for android basically... honestly i looked into both phones and tested them.. imagio is un comparable. The android interface is stylish but FYI once imagio is unlocked it is HIGHLY likely an android port or something will be made like the HTC Blackstone has one being made for it.. so you can kill two birds with one stone, great battery, performance and looks.
Valid point, but since the Omnia II now has an official date its between the Omnia II and the Eris for me. As mentioned the Sprint Hero has a larger battery, so if it's possible to use the Sprint Hero battery on the Eris, battery life should improve a bit.
Well I looked around a bit and turns out the Euro Hero battery fits but not worth it as its only a 50mah larger. The Sprint Hero battery works, but the battery cover does not fit over, hence a larger battery cover.
Ok so I'm really really trying to get into the whole Android thing but it seems like all the flagship phones coming out lately have these crazy ugly skins over top of them which remind me of the old Windows 95 and Windows 98 days where people tried their best to make desktop shells (litestep, nextstepx86, talisman) but just ended up making Windows look even more fugly, cluttered, bloated, and slow.
I'm looking for the fastest Android phone available both in clockspeed, GPU, and real world performance, the highest resolution possible, and with NO custom carrier crap on it. Which do you guys recommend? So far I've had a sprint Hero, European Hero, N1, and a Droid Incredible. I'm looking for a phone that operates as fast or at least close to my iPhone 4. Thoughts?
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As far as carrier builds running atop, that is the case with most major US releases. Honestly the only Android that matches your filters is the N1. Dual core phones and 1.5Ghz handsets are in the works, but they will undoubtedly be bogged down with some sort of carrier bloatware and home settings. Have you checked out any of the Galaxy S series? They are the fastest phones out, with the best resolution possible on a phone. They are a little bit bigger than the iPhone, but still a comfy ergonomic fit. They do, however run Samsung's Touchwiz 3.0 UI, though its very (VERY) smooth. As root methods get easier and more intuitive, removing the bloatware shouldn't be an issue.
Hey guys
I am currently using a HD2, but I want longer battery life as I am a power user.
Looking to upgrade to the Dell Streak, but some questions:
1. Does it have better battery life?
2. Is it faster than the HD2?
3. How's the camera on the Streak?
That's all I guess
Thanks
1 - Most likely the Streak does have better BL than the HD2. The HD2 has only a 1230mA battery. But the HD2 does have better BL with WinMo than with Android. So the question is, in that regard, the Streak will certainly have better BL
2 - Probably...if using Android on your HD2. But there are some super sweet Android ROMs that are pretty fast. So in all likelihood you wouldn't see any significant different in apparent speed.
3 - Sadly the HD2 camera is one of the worst ever created. Android does improve it somewhat but not enough to make it as good as others. I don't know about the Streak camera. But I can't see how it could be worse.
The HD2's strong points are its ability to run many different OSes very well. It run WP7 superbly and Android sublimely. It provides superior reliability and usability.
I own a Streak and I'm really, really happy with it. The battery life is good, but the camera is not good at all. However, the screen is awesome! Even in strong sunlight you can still read everthing
But you shouldknow, that there aren't any stock updates to Gingerbread (yet?). It still runs Froyo
I have a HD2 and I had a Streak.
Dropped both, HD2 survived, Streak was f**ked.
That said the Streak was a nice device, but would not use it as a phone.
keep in mind that the hd2 has one the biggest communities on xda (which means that theres a lot of development going on for the hd2), so if you're the type of person who likes to mod your phone, id stick with the hd2
I installed tytung's NexusHD2 Gingerbread V2.9 NAND ROM a few days ago, and I must say that I feel it has transformed my HD2. I have always loved the HD2 hardware, but hated WM6.5. With the new Android ROM the phone is almost as good as many of the top of the line models in the stores today. I don't feel that the battery life is poor either, but I guess that depends a lot upon your priorities.
Well I got my streak. Can't say im too happy with it.
hd2 is for surely the best creation of htc, i persnoly think that there is nothing like hd2. it is capable of running any os except of ios. and is very smooth.
Will probably get myself a hd2 again. Can't stand this phone.
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I installed tytung's NexusHD2 Gingerbread V2.9 NAND ROM a few days ago, and I must say that I feel it has transformed my HD2. I have always loved the HD2 hardware, but hated WM6.5. With the new Android ROM the phone is almost as good as many of the top of the line models in the stores today. I don't feel that the battery life is poor either, but I guess that depends a lot upon your priorities.
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Exactly!
NexusHD2 is nice and clean, I have used it for long time. If one wants more features though, switch to CM7 based rom. TyphooN one is great
But nevertheless, the most important thing is, HD2 runs Android perfectly, smoothly and...well, like native Android device.
As for battery life, with JuiceDefender Ultimate I get EASILY 1 long day of moderate/high usage. With maximum brightness (that's big battery hog, I know!).
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floating_point_unit said:
Exactly!
NexusHD2 is nice and clean, I have used it for long time. If one wants more features though, switch to CM7 based rom. TyphooN one is great
But nevertheless, the most important thing is, HD2 runs Android perfectly, smoothly and...well, like native Android device.
As for battery life, with JuiceDefender Ultimate I get EASILY 1 long day of moderate/high usage. With maximum brightness (that's big battery hog, I know!).
fpu
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you are wrong at 1 point. HD2 does not run like other native android devices, hd2 is rather faster than other.
I have been able to upgrade through at&t but I do not know what phone to get either the galaxy s ii or the iphone 4s. I know there is not a jailbreak out yet for the iphone but it will be soon. I have yet to mess with the gs2 but have done a lot of research on both. My brother has the 4s, nice phone great performance. I am a cnc programmer ( machinist) so cad software is nice on a device in my pocket. All the research I have done and videos always leads to some type of fan-boy ranting. I like the larger screen the gs2 has but I also like the i message feature considering I do not have unlimited text but do have unlimited data. I like gaming and such also. If someone here can give me some advise on the ups and downs of both phones please?
Do you have any experience with iOS or Android? I upgraded from an iPhone 4 to an S2, and for me the S2 is a much better phone, and Android is a much better (and to me more intuitive) OS. But I love to customize, love the flexibility, and need various features that iOS doesn't have. I don't know what your needs are, but I'm not going back to an iPhone.
I’m in the exact same boat as you and I was torn between these two phones as well. Technically, I’m torn between the Epic 4G Touch and the i4S on Sprint, but the hardware is very similar. Ultimately, I’ve decided to go with the GS2.
Between the two, the performance right now is basically identical, though benchmarks put the GS2 ahead. Webpage, app, and other load speeds are nearly identical, though I’ve played with an i4S and I will say it is sometimes freakishly fast. Both have voice search/assistant-type features (Apple’s Siri is probably ahead). And camera quality is the same. This PC World comparison shows GS2 slightly ahead of i4S and even beating a standard point-and-shoot in some applications.
The decision for me came down to customization and “future-proofiness” of the phones. Apple has great support for their phones and releases updates like clockwork. Samsung is terrible at releasing official updates (we JUST got official Gingerbread on the OG Epic 4Gs). However, here at XDA there are tons of DIY Devs that release tweaks, updates, mods, and ROMs for Android that help keep you ahead of the curve. In addition, the hardware on the i4s (3.5” display [small], 512mb RAM [low]) may leave you wanting in a year, while the GS2 should keep you through to your next upgrade (faster processor, larger screen, 1gb RAM, expandable memory, etc). Beyond that, ICS just got released and has been confirmed for the GS2 sometime next year. Apple is starting to show discrepancies between their phones with only the i4S getting Siri. What will they cut you out of when the next iteration of the iPhone comes out?
As for your concerns on CAD software and gaming, I think that’s going to be a wash too. Both have AutoCAD WS for example, as well as other CAD programs (quick Googling turns up a lot), so it may just come down to which specific program has everything you want.
Gaming is a point of contention and it may come down to preference. iOS has more developer support than Android (personally, I too prefer Objective C [iOS] over Java[Android]), so there seems to be more and potentially better games on the iPhone, especially casual ones, but there are more free games on Android. Most games are ported to both platforms nowadays so it may not matter soon. Back to my future-proofiness point, with more RAM and a higher clock speed, the GS2 should be able to handle more graphically complex games than the i4S so newer games may work better on the GS2 in the future.
Sorry for the long post, but I went back and forth over this forever so I know what you’re going through. The real decision comes down to which has more of what you like. If you like DIY customization, potential future-proofiness, and the CAD software on Android, go GS2. If you like the constant support and huge app library of iOS, then get an i4S. Most other things will be too close to make a difference.
Also, there’s the exact same question asked here.
Thank you for your input. This is a hard choice. my brother seems to think that I would be much better off with the 4s but I believe he is more on apples side because he has had every iphone made. He did say that the apps are just a better quality for the iphone. I can not comment on that yet because I have yet to use both devices for any amount of time. I do plan on gaming, and the 4s has a .200 smaller screen than my current phone does but it has i message which will be handy on saving texts. I know that the gs2 is fast and really fast with some of these custom roms I guess it comes down to apps and screen size.
Android all the way!!! Sure the iPhone is sexy, sleek, slender, and all sorts of other terms involving alliteration, but the main deciding factor for me would be customization...... Are you an avid flasher of custom ROM's? If so this is a no-brainer. My vote is ANDROID, but those 4S's sure are easy on the eyes and they do feel sturdy.....That is all relative when compared to the awesomeness that is the open source market. XDA Developers all the way! I love the freedom of Android and the massive array of great dev's out there who make our phones that much better and provide us with all the goodies that we desire.
I have never owned a apple device nor a android device. I have a windows mobile device in which i have flashed about 200 roms onto it. I do like tweaking and making it faster with better battery life. I have been sorta stuck in the past with no good games and apps for windows mobile. I have had so many points where my brother shows me a new game and they done make it for windows mobile. I like games like that new modern combat and such. I guess I will have to mess with both units more before making a sure choice.
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Android all the way!!! Sure the iPhone is sexy, sleek, slender, and all sorts of other terms involving alliteration, but the main deciding factor for me would be customization...... Are you an avid flasher of custom ROM's? If so this is a no-brainer. My vote is ANDROID, but those 4S's sure are easy on the eyes and they do feel sturdy.....That is all relative when compared to the awesomeness that is the open source market. XDA Developers all the way! I love the freedom of Android and the massive array of great dev's out there who make our phones that much better and provide us with all the goodies that we desire.
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same from my side..
Think the screen will be a "big" factor... I debated too; the screen was one of the things that won me over. Plus, using CADanything on the little 4S will get old quick.
Galaxy s 2 for gods sake!!
I have made a decision on what to get. I am going to go with the Samsung galaxy s2. The screen size is winning me over. I do not think I will root it right away. Or should I? Just get the thing running at top notch. My bro is already saying we will have to do a comparison after apple starts making games and apps that their 4s will utilize. We will see . I have never rooted a android device before but many wm roms have been flashed. I will have to read up on it.
I want to thank everyone for their thoughts on this. I have to start reading up on rooting. Thanks again guys.
I have a Galaxy s2. that thing is a beauty. you won't regret it
Just moved from iphone my self the screen sucked me right in,and def you should root or use CF root if you want to stay on stock rom their is a great how to right here on this site.