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Eris vs Imagio

So, I am looking to get a new phone in the coming month and it has come down to the Eris and the Imagio. Both of which are going for 100 bucks on my carrier so price is not a factor.
What is a factor to me is the screen(not the size, but color, quality/durability & responsiveness), call quality, audio/speaker quality, battery life, and durability. Which one of these is better/averaged out better in these categories? Which is the faster, more enjoyable device?
I understand OS plays a factors, but I am open to both really. I have a WM 6.1 device right now so I am find with WM, but Android is the new kid on the block and kind of interested in using it. I don't use much software on WM other than Opera Mobile/Mini(use both based on what I need to do), SPB, reg hacking and MS Office Mobile. I would think there are viable replacement for most of these? But, then comes the fact that when I last used touchflow 3D, I wasn't too fond of it. And the newer Sense on the Touch HD2 improves that but still it feels a bit chunky in my mind. Is the Sense UI on Android similar or is it much better? I would think Android 2.0 would make the Eris better, and that WM6.5.2(1?) will also bring some minor but better improvements? So, any ideas?
Thank you.

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I was looking for user opinions and thoughts as that site won't tell me which one has the better quality screen or which feels better to use.

Of the two which has the better on-screen keyboard?

About a week ago I was looking at the same two devices [Imagio Vs. Eris] and debating which one to get, as I was switching from T-mobile over to Verizon. I ended up going with the Eris because it seems to be more responsive, the on-screen keyboard is MUCH better on the Eris in my opinion, and it feels nicer in your palm. I would suggest going to a Verizon store and Trying both working display models, if you haven't done so already to really see which one you like better. I am too, a long time fan of WM and I think you can do a lot more with WM because it's easier to hack, simply because it's been around much longer.

Valid point of WM being around more. Which did you think felt more durable? And which screen did you find more accurate? I would go in store but the closest one to me only had display models of both. Also, was is easy transferring your text from your WM phone to the Eris? Thanks.

tbaker077 said:
Valid point of WM being around more. Which did you think felt more durable? And which screen did you find more accurate? I would go in store but the closest one to me only had display models of both. Also, was is easy transferring your text from your WM phone to the Eris? Thanks.
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I believe that both phones were equal in accuracy although the Eris was a tiny bit quicker. The Eris actually has a backing and most of the body, made of material that feels like it has a case [non-slip material], making it feel more secure in your hand, vs. just being more plastic feeling. I still invested in a case and screen protector though. And what specifically do you mean by "transferring your text?".

Anyway you can compare the battery size of the Eris to the HTC Hero from sprint? Seeing as the Hero has a slightly larger battery?

the Hero has a larger battery and lasts a little while longer then the eris.

I know that but will that larger battery fit the Eris?

get the Eris, it has the super trackball which i dont think the imagio has. this is really helpful, I wish my TP2 had one.

I am indifferent to it. However the Imagio is now off my list and replaced with the upcoming Omnia II. I like the fact it has 8gb built in plus and microSD card slot, but at 200 its a bit much. Then there is the Eris with Android, which has a good future(unlike the Omnia where it won't get WM7) and its got a beautiful price of $100. Then I keep reading AMOLED on the Omnia II is fantastic, but the Eris has they better on screen keyboard. Damn having two good choices.

wildcard said:
get the Eris, it has the super trackball which i dont think the imagio has. this is really helpful, I wish my TP2 had one.
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lol great reason to get a phone... you realise those actually fall out of a lot of phones after some use? btw definatly look at battery reviews... the Eris is horrible on battery life i can get 2 days worth out of my imagio, and the eris is said it cant even get half a day with hard use like internet youtube, music.. etc which the imagio can.. they have the same specs accept for android basically... honestly i looked into both phones and tested them.. imagio is un comparable. The android interface is stylish but FYI once imagio is unlocked it is HIGHLY likely an android port or something will be made like the HTC Blackstone has one being made for it.. so you can kill two birds with one stone, great battery, performance and looks.

Valid point, but since the Omnia II now has an official date its between the Omnia II and the Eris for me. As mentioned the Sprint Hero has a larger battery, so if it's possible to use the Sprint Hero battery on the Eris, battery life should improve a bit.

Well I looked around a bit and turns out the Euro Hero battery fits but not worth it as its only a 50mah larger. The Sprint Hero battery works, but the battery cover does not fit over, hence a larger battery cover.

[Q] Iphone 3gs move to Android

Hi there
I have been an Iphone 3gs user since they debuted and I have really enjoyed its simplicity and practical way that it just works. However, I have no signal etc and recently find myself getting back to my hacking roots.
Anyways what phone would be good as I have used a Dell Streak for the past week and I really enjoyed it but the use of the iphone interface just blows it out of the water. I did update the phone to 2.1 which was very cool.
So are they a collection of apps that would bridge my transition?

If you think the iOS experience is better than the standard Android, try the Galaxy S, it has a familiar iOS like set up, but with added Android goodness. If you want high-end performance, then the aforementioned Galaxy S, HTC Desire/EVO, iPhone 4 are you best contenders, the Galaxy and HTC devices have the advantage of being cheaper, if a little less bespoke. Signal wise, I can't say that my Desire is any better than my old iPhone 3G was, you've either damaged it (physically or caused some software glitch) or your network has been playing up. The good thing about Android is if you don't like it, you can change it to the nth degree. Most phones perform equally well at the most mundane tasks, it's only when you have a niche action that you can tell the differences; the iPhone 4 does have great battery life and a cracking screen quality, but you will find that doing multiple things on an Android device that little bit more intuitive and the 2.2 browser is phenomenally quick. As for Apps, the design of some the Android apps is lacking in the polish that the iPhone equivalents have, but that's because the spectrum of phones it may be used on is far greater. I have personally loved every second of my Desire, it makes far more sense than my iPhone did, I can do things quicker and it is a more functional phone, it just takes a little getting used to, the screen for instance is sometimes too sensitive, but it is far greater a Device than the 3G. I cannot comment on the iPhone 4 however having only spent about half an hour on one. It is simply a case of trying as many devices as you can. All devices have their problems and shortcomings and equally they have their advantages, you have to choose the one which fits you best.

jamdog30 said:
Hi there
I have been an Iphone 3gs user since they debuted and I have really enjoyed its simplicity and practical way that it just works. However, I have no signal etc and recently find myself getting back to my hacking roots.
Anyways what phone would be good as I have used a Dell Streak for the past week and I really enjoyed it but the use of the iphone interface just blows it out of the water. I did update the phone to 2.1 which was very cool.
So are they a collection of apps that would bridge my transition?
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As someone who actually went from the iPhone 3GS to the Samsung Captivate recently, let me just say this: Once Froyo comes out, your user experience would probably be better, but it will not result in a better experience than what you had on the iPhone. Just a different experience.
This goes the same for all smartphones, I think. If you're particularly used to one OS, then unless the OS you're moving to is superior in every single way, the transition is going to tough. In this regard, moving from iOS is particularly tough as it has the best app store, and easily one of the best user experience.
Hell, I know I'm not having an easy time transitioning to Android (Captivate is my first Android phone).
But if you just stick with it, I think things will eventually turn out well. As for the apps to make that transition easier, I think the Android Market has a 'replacement' app for most things you got with the iPhone, if not an Android version of the exact same app you used on the iPhone.

jamdog30 said:
Hi there
I have been an Iphone 3gs user since they debuted and I have really enjoyed its simplicity and practical way that it just works. However, I have no signal etc and recently find myself getting back to my hacking roots.
Anyways what phone would be good as I have used a Dell Streak for the past week and I really enjoyed it but the use of the iphone interface just blows it out of the water. I did update the phone to 2.1 which was very cool.
So are they a collection of apps that would bridge my transition?
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App wise, what are you looking for to "bridge the gap"??
Also when 2.2 does release for you, it's alot better then the 2.1 Android IMHO I just went from (2.1-update1--->2.2 FRG01B--->2.2 FRG22D and Google just keeps getting better.
You will never have the same experience on ANY Android device that you had on the iPhone, your talking about a "open source VS closed", two very different operating systems.. etc etc... But look through the Market and you just might find something to close that gap..
Good luck,
Cheers

i was a hardcore iphone user a while back and decided to test out a android phone. once i saw the different ROMs and all the hacking that can be done to android it was a no brainer for me to switch. i loved everything about the iphone except for it being closed source.

The Infuse is perfect as a crossover

Guys, I have a new Infuse and was concerned it would be too big as a phone. I've always felt like 4.3" was large enough. But after using my Infuse today while out and about, I have to say it's perfect. It makes the perfect mix of a tablet and phone combo.
I sat down to some lunch at a quickstop while waiting on relatives to do their grocery shopping. I pulled out my Infuse to surf the web and look at XDA. I was pleased when I proceeded to reply in an XDA thread. I set the Infuse down on the table in landscape mode and proceeded to type and found that it was almost as easy as using the keyboard on a larger tablet. I sat there typing away like I was typing on a full size PC keyboard.
The size and shape of the Infuse just really makes it perfect as a tiny tablet with phone function. It's not only incredibly handsome to look at, but also provides a convenient user experience. I have an HD2, which is just 2/10th smaller than the Infuse and have a nice Tytung Nexus S ROM flashed on it and it has never provided the satisfying sensation I just had with my Infuse today.
Don't get me wrong, though. It isn't all praise for the Infuse. In the contrary, my Infuse has shown me that Samsung doesn't know anything about software creation. This Infuse has been the first Samsung branded Android phone I've ever owned and has been the most buggy and temperamental smartphone I've ever used. And I have a number of other phones. I've also used a number of other Android phones. TouchWiz is a pure joke of an Android overlay. I always thought MotoBlur was the worst Android overlay. But TouchWiz has it bested easily. But my poor Samsung UI experience isn't limited to Samsung phones. I also have high-end Samsung DAPs. And all of them have deplorable UIs.
Nevertheless, the Infuse is an outstanding example of how Samsung could, if they were motivated and properly focused, rule the smartphone market. The hardware is just excellent. I checked the audio quality last night with some high-end IEMs and top-end encoded music files and found the sound quality to be superb. It's on par with my Cowon D2 and iPod Nano 3G, both of which use the Wolfson audio chip. The camera I find to be quite excellent as well. The choice of CPU is nice: the Hummingbird A8. And the display is nothing shy of gorgeous. But in order for Sammy to rule the market they'd need to allow an outside company to do all of their software creation. I hope that when AT&T pushes out the Gingerbread update for the Infuse it will settle much of the bugginess and issues with the Infuse. But I seriously doubt it. Right now I've settled on using an alternative launcher on my Infuse to get away from TW.
By the way, mine isn't rooted yet. I may or may not choose to root it. But I won't be rooting it until after the GB update occurs.

MartyLK said:
Guys, I have a new Infuse and was concerned it would be too big as a phone. I've always felt like 4.3" was large enough. But after using my Infuse today while out and about, I have to say it's perfect. It makes the perfect mix of a tablet and phone combo.
I sat down to some lunch at a quickstop while waiting on relatives to do their grocery shopping. I pulled out my Infuse to surf the web and look at XDA. I was pleased when I proceeded to reply in an XDA thread. I set the Infuse down on the table in landscape mode and proceeded to type and found that it was almost as easy as using the keyboard on a larger tablet. I sat there typing away like I was typing on a full size PC keyboard.
The size and shape of the Infuse just really makes it perfect as a tiny tablet with phone function. It's not only incredibly handsome to look at, but also provides a convenient user experience. I have an HD2, which is just 2/10th smaller than the Infuse and have a nice Tytung Nexus S ROM flashed on it and it has never provided the satisfying sensation I just had with my Infuse today.
Don't get me wrong, though. It isn't all praise for the Infuse. In the contrary, my Infuse has shown me that Samsung doesn't know anything about software creation. This Infuse has been the first Samsung branded Android phone I've ever owned and has been the most buggy and temperamental smartphone I've ever used. And I have a number of other phones. I've also used a number of other Android phones. TouchWiz is a pure joke of an Android overlay. I always thought MotoBlur was the worst Android overlay. But TouchWiz has it bested easily. But my poor Samsung UI experience isn't limited to Samsung phones. I also have high-end Samsung DAPs. And all of them have deplorable UIs.
Nevertheless, the Infuse is an outstanding example of how Samsung could, if they were motivated and properly focused, rule the smartphone market. The hardware is just excellent. I checked the audio quality last night with some high-end IEMs and top-end encoded music files and found the sound quality to be superb. It's on par with my Cowon D2 and iPod Nano 3G, both of which use the Wolfson audio chip. The camera I find to be quite excellent as well. The choice of CPU is nice: the Hummingbird A8. And the display is nothing shy of gorgeous. But in order for Sammy to rule the market they'd need to allow an outside company to do all of their software creation. I hope that when AT&T pushes out the Gingerbread update for the Infuse it will settle much of the bugginess and issues with the Infuse. But I seriously doubt it. Right now I've settled on using an alternative launcher on my Infuse to get away from TW.
By the way, mine isn't rooted yet. I may or may not choose to root it. But I won't be rooting it until after the GB update occurs.
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Great write up,i was gonna return mine then I rooted and flashed a rom, now my 30 days is almost up and not sure I want to trade it in for the sg2,i woukd have to go back to my iphone 4 which is like a tiny annoying paper weight, might hold out for the prime cause it should have a4.5 screen
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Why would you quote the entire thing, you're the first reply. You're obviously commenting on his write-up, what else would you be doing by replying? I see this in almost every freaking thread on XDA. It's stupid.
Anywho..
Just root it and be done, it's really not a big deal. Takes two minutes to do and it's easily reversible.

Good write up & most of what you pointed out is why I decided to leave the SGSII and stick with the Infuse. The larger screen has many benefits and played the large part of me keeping it. TW3 is HORRID...TW4 added some nice features & I noticed here and there things that were a great step up to the plate compared to past versions. The widget selection menu and screen set up process is nice...but because of the smaller size screen it seems a little odd because everything shrinks while doing this. I think the Infuse would get much better ratings even with just the upgrade to TW4.

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Infiniti350GT said:
Good write up & most of what you pointed out is why I decided to leave the SGSII and stick with the Infuse. The larger screen has many benefits and played the large part of me keeping it. TW3 is HORRID...TW4 added some nice features & I noticed here and there things that were a great step up to the plate compared to past versions. The widget selection menu and screen set up process is nice...but because of the smaller size screen it seems a little odd because everything shrinks while doing this. I think the Infuse would get much better ratings even with just the upgrade to TW4.
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I certainly hope the coming Infuse GB update will bring more widgets. That's one thing I'm not used to with this Infuse, the lack of widgets. My other Android phones all have had plenty of clock widgets and other kinds of widgets in the OEM ROM. The Infuse doesn't even have a decent clock widget. It has one clock widget: a dual digital clock. And since going to a different launcher, there wasn't even that clock because it shows up only in TW. I had to install a suitable clock widget.

[Q] Torn deciding on two phones

I have been able to upgrade through at&t but I do not know what phone to get either the galaxy s ii or the iphone 4s. I know there is not a jailbreak out yet for the iphone but it will be soon. I have yet to mess with the gs2 but have done a lot of research on both. My brother has the 4s, nice phone great performance. I am a cnc programmer ( machinist) so cad software is nice on a device in my pocket. All the research I have done and videos always leads to some type of fan-boy ranting. I like the larger screen the gs2 has but I also like the i message feature considering I do not have unlimited text but do have unlimited data. I like gaming and such also. If someone here can give me some advise on the ups and downs of both phones please?

Do you have any experience with iOS or Android? I upgraded from an iPhone 4 to an S2, and for me the S2 is a much better phone, and Android is a much better (and to me more intuitive) OS. But I love to customize, love the flexibility, and need various features that iOS doesn't have. I don't know what your needs are, but I'm not going back to an iPhone.

I’m in the exact same boat as you and I was torn between these two phones as well. Technically, I’m torn between the Epic 4G Touch and the i4S on Sprint, but the hardware is very similar. Ultimately, I’ve decided to go with the GS2.
Between the two, the performance right now is basically identical, though benchmarks put the GS2 ahead. Webpage, app, and other load speeds are nearly identical, though I’ve played with an i4S and I will say it is sometimes freakishly fast. Both have voice search/assistant-type features (Apple’s Siri is probably ahead). And camera quality is the same. This PC World comparison shows GS2 slightly ahead of i4S and even beating a standard point-and-shoot in some applications.
The decision for me came down to customization and “future-proofiness” of the phones. Apple has great support for their phones and releases updates like clockwork. Samsung is terrible at releasing official updates (we JUST got official Gingerbread on the OG Epic 4Gs). However, here at XDA there are tons of DIY Devs that release tweaks, updates, mods, and ROMs for Android that help keep you ahead of the curve. In addition, the hardware on the i4s (3.5” display [small], 512mb RAM [low]) may leave you wanting in a year, while the GS2 should keep you through to your next upgrade (faster processor, larger screen, 1gb RAM, expandable memory, etc). Beyond that, ICS just got released and has been confirmed for the GS2 sometime next year. Apple is starting to show discrepancies between their phones with only the i4S getting Siri. What will they cut you out of when the next iteration of the iPhone comes out?
As for your concerns on CAD software and gaming, I think that’s going to be a wash too. Both have AutoCAD WS for example, as well as other CAD programs (quick Googling turns up a lot), so it may just come down to which specific program has everything you want.
Gaming is a point of contention and it may come down to preference. iOS has more developer support than Android (personally, I too prefer Objective C [iOS] over Java[Android]), so there seems to be more and potentially better games on the iPhone, especially casual ones, but there are more free games on Android. Most games are ported to both platforms nowadays so it may not matter soon. Back to my future-proofiness point, with more RAM and a higher clock speed, the GS2 should be able to handle more graphically complex games than the i4S so newer games may work better on the GS2 in the future.
Sorry for the long post, but I went back and forth over this forever so I know what you’re going through. The real decision comes down to which has more of what you like. If you like DIY customization, potential future-proofiness, and the CAD software on Android, go GS2. If you like the constant support and huge app library of iOS, then get an i4S. Most other things will be too close to make a difference.
Also, there’s the exact same question asked here.

Thank you for your input. This is a hard choice. my brother seems to think that I would be much better off with the 4s but I believe he is more on apples side because he has had every iphone made. He did say that the apps are just a better quality for the iphone. I can not comment on that yet because I have yet to use both devices for any amount of time. I do plan on gaming, and the 4s has a .200 smaller screen than my current phone does but it has i message which will be handy on saving texts. I know that the gs2 is fast and really fast with some of these custom roms I guess it comes down to apps and screen size.

Android all the way!!! Sure the iPhone is sexy, sleek, slender, and all sorts of other terms involving alliteration, but the main deciding factor for me would be customization...... Are you an avid flasher of custom ROM's? If so this is a no-brainer. My vote is ANDROID, but those 4S's sure are easy on the eyes and they do feel sturdy.....That is all relative when compared to the awesomeness that is the open source market. XDA Developers all the way! I love the freedom of Android and the massive array of great dev's out there who make our phones that much better and provide us with all the goodies that we desire.

I have never owned a apple device nor a android device. I have a windows mobile device in which i have flashed about 200 roms onto it. I do like tweaking and making it faster with better battery life. I have been sorta stuck in the past with no good games and apps for windows mobile. I have had so many points where my brother shows me a new game and they done make it for windows mobile. I like games like that new modern combat and such. I guess I will have to mess with both units more before making a sure choice.

FOXRacing83 said:
Android all the way!!! Sure the iPhone is sexy, sleek, slender, and all sorts of other terms involving alliteration, but the main deciding factor for me would be customization...... Are you an avid flasher of custom ROM's? If so this is a no-brainer. My vote is ANDROID, but those 4S's sure are easy on the eyes and they do feel sturdy.....That is all relative when compared to the awesomeness that is the open source market. XDA Developers all the way! I love the freedom of Android and the massive array of great dev's out there who make our phones that much better and provide us with all the goodies that we desire.
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same from my side..

Think the screen will be a "big" factor... I debated too; the screen was one of the things that won me over. Plus, using CADanything on the little 4S will get old quick.

Galaxy s 2 for gods sake!!

I have made a decision on what to get. I am going to go with the Samsung galaxy s2. The screen size is winning me over. I do not think I will root it right away. Or should I? Just get the thing running at top notch. My bro is already saying we will have to do a comparison after apple starts making games and apps that their 4s will utilize. We will see . I have never rooted a android device before but many wm roms have been flashed. I will have to read up on it.

I want to thank everyone for their thoughts on this. I have to start reading up on rooting. Thanks again guys.

I have a Galaxy s2. that thing is a beauty. you won't regret it

Just moved from iphone my self the screen sucked me right in,and def you should root or use CF root if you want to stay on stock rom their is a great how to right here on this site.

Iphone X

Thought I would share my experience with Iphone X.
I started with an Iphone 3G. Moved to Android and never looked back... until now.
As far as I can tell IOS is basically stock Android. It has no bloatware, no weird overlays. IMO android and IOS are near indistinguishable at this point.
Some concerns I had with IOS was it's inflexibility. Couldn't change the bottom row of shortcuts from the default ones. Couldn't change the keyboard etc. All of that is gone. It's fully customisable.
One of my main complaints with Iphone was needing to use Itunes, a piece of software I would regard as having perhaps the worst user interface experience I've ever experienced. I haven't had to install it on my PC to use the Iphone X at all. I use spotify, Netflix so get all my media online essentially.
The Iphone X has a processor about twice as powerful as the best current Android chip the 835. It also polls it's touch interface at 120hz instead of 60hz which you have to use to actually understand the difference it makes. I went into a Telstra store and tested the Iphone and the Note 8 and it was immediately apparent the Iphone was a far smoother experience. Knowing the CPU was more powerful I immediately attributed it to that, I went home and looked it up. I now believe it to be a combination of faster processor and the better touch response.
I went with the Iphone X for a number of reasons. It's horse power, it's screen responsiveness and lesser blue shift at angles, it's cut down stock android like interface. It's guaranteed updates for probably 4 years or more (5s is still updated which is from 2013). Also due to the closed nature of IOS apps are better optimised.
I was sworn against apple products and probably generally still am. I just decided to put my bias aside and judge what is actually the best product available right now. My conclusion was the Iphone X and I stand by that decision after using it for a week, by far the best phone I have used so far (Also the most expensive )

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