Hello,
I've been seeing in the flee market lots of HTC touch pro (not fuze) that claim to work with North American 3G networks. Are they not telling the truth? I thought that HTC touch pro does not do 3G networks in North America? Or is there another version of the phone that works? I'm talking about HTC touch pro and not the fuze or any other version of the phone.
Thank you.
Allegedly, there are Touch Pros made for the American market.
A websearch will reveal the specs - then all you have to do is lite up the phone and compare to see if it will work in US.
since there is no way of trying the phone since I want to buy it online, is there another way of telling if the phone works on north American 3G network or do I have to take the words of the seller?
Thank you
iamcanadian said:
since there is no way of trying the phone since I want to buy it online, is there another way of telling if the phone works on north American 3G network or do I have to take the words of the seller?
Thank you
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Ask them for the phone's Model ID. RAPH100, RAPH110, etc.
Once you have the Model ID, you can verify if it supports US 3G.
NotATreoFan said:
Ask them for the phone's Model ID. RAPH100, RAPH110, etc.
Once you have the Model ID, you can verify if it supports US 3G.
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oh ok thank you
However which model supports US or Canadian 3G? I looked at the Raph_Specs in the wiki and I only found specs for Raphael 800 and Raphael 100; not 100/110. Plus I thought that the HTC Touch Pro has only two versions: the Raphael 100, which is GSM, and the Raphael 800, which is CDMA
Thank you again
iamcanadian said:
oh ok thank you
However which model supports US or Canadian 3G? I looked at the Raph_Specs in the wiki and I only found specs for Raphael 800 and Raphael 100; not 100/110. Plus I thought that the HTC Touch Pro has only two versions: the Raphael 100, which is GSM, and the Raphael 800, which is CDMA
Thank you again
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The Fuze is RAPH110. Once you find out the Model ID, post it here and I'm sure someone can tell you for sure.
RAPH 110 is the fuze i believe
ok so in conclusion, there is no US or Canadian 3G unless its a fuze... Those that claim to have a touch pro that works on North American Network are scammers. and I'm only talking about the HTC touch pro that has only the HTC logo and no carrier logo. Correct???
iamcanadian said:
ok so in conclusion, there is no US or Canadian 3G unless its a fuze... Those that claim to have a touch pro that works on North American Network are scammers. and I'm only talking about the HTC touch pro that has only the HTC logo and no carrier logo. Correct???
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A US 3G-compatible Touch Pro may exist. Once you know the Model ID, post it here, and someone should be able to confirm if it will work.
Touch pro
People there is no us 3g version of the Unbranded Touch pro Yet point Blank And FYI The Fuse And Unbranded Touch pro Are the Same phone Just Fuse has no Front Camera And Soft Touch Back other then that The Fuse is the Touch pro Same Speeds And Specs If you Flash the Oem Touch pro unbranded Rom to the Fuse And unlock the Sub Sid Bam there you Go Plus Fuse is Better We have Us 3g and World Wide Hsdpa Hell if i want a Front Camera I will pull out My TyTN II ....Lol
There is the the Diamond Touch (not the Pro) that is compatible with North American 3G. I saw it on www.mobileplanet.com I called HTC direct and confirmed that there is not a North American version of the Touch Pro Other than the Fuze. The will tell you that the Euro Touch Pro has the GSM support but not the 3G.
NotATreoFan said:
Ask them for the phone's Model ID. RAPH100, RAPH110, etc.
Once you have the Model ID, you can verify if it supports US 3G.
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How about the HTC Touch 3g T3232? I just bought one and i'm having problems accessing the internet through AT&T...
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Hi,
I plan a business trip at the end of this month in the US. Ive currently an HTC P3600 but i would like to buy an HTC Touch. (I prefer the iphone but it lacks business application like Exchange synchronisation).
As i'm in the US, i would like to take advantages of the $/Euro convertion and get direct 40% off my phone.
Question: US Mobile Network and European Mobile Network are not compatible. The US version of the HTC touch is capable of both mode ?
Do you recommend the HTC TOuch or any other ?
Thanks
Ced
as long as you dont get a cdma version
gsm 900/1800/1900 phones in europe
Rudegar said:
as long as you dont get a cdma version
gsm 900/1800/1900 phones in europe
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What he said, get a GSM phone. Even if it is locked to a carrier you can get it unlocked.
will the new touch pro from devicewire in the uk work on at&t's 3g network? thanks
wordsworth03 said:
will the new touch pro from devicewire in the uk work on at&t's 3g network? thanks
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No, 900/2100mhz UMTS, AT&T uses 850/1900mhz.
wordsworth03 said:
will the new touch pro from devicewire in the uk work on at&t's 3g network? thanks
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Well, that's the million dollar question, isn't it? Many of us are waiting to find out the answer. The AT&T ROM which has already been released on this site should enable access to UMTS 850/1900 bands which AT&T uses. The question is does this phone have the hardware to support this or will the US version have different hardware to access these bands. The answer to this question should be revealed in the next day or two as UK versions of this phone start showing up on US doorsteps including mine.
great, thanks for the response...please keep us updated! i want to pull the trigger very badly on one of these and i have very little patience!
I know it sounds stupid but why go through the trouble of purposefully crippling the european version? I dunno it just sounds weird to me, and more like their deal with att ( att doesnt want tons of these being imported before they release their version ) is causing this lack of U.S. UMTS via firmware.
Well the Diamonds over there can't get UMTS because they don't have the 850/1900 UMTS radio, the hardware was removed to make it smaller. We're hoping the Raphael has the same hardware, but you never know if that's the case.
let's just hope they don't name it something stupid,I don't know how well the sugar trick would work on the surface of the Touch Pro to remove any stupid branding att puts on the phone. ATT manages to make HTC's sexy into slight trailer trash every time.
migsims said:
let's just hope they don't name it something stupid,I don't know how well the sugar trick would work on the surface of the Touch Pro to remove any stupid branding att puts on the phone. ATT manages to make HTC's sexy into slight trailer trash every time.
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AT&T Fusion is what we're hearing.
I just spoke to HTC tech support, the guy said that there is a touch pro version in Hong Kong that works on the UMTS 850, which would mean that it would work on ATT 3G here in the US, he gave me a number for the HTC kiosk in Beijing (they have a tech support location there during the Olympics for HTC customers visiting) the number he gave me is 400-700-7011, its in china i haven't been able to get through. He also said there is a ROM upgrade for the Hong Kong version that would enable 3G on the 850 band. I am just as confused as I was before I called.
gatordent said:
I just spoke to HTC tech support, the guy said that there is a touch pro version in Hong Kong that works on the UMTS 850, which would mean that it would work on ATT 3G here in the US, he gave me a number for the HTC kiosk in Beijing (they have a tech support location there during the Olympics for HTC customers visiting) the number he gave me is 400-700-7011, its in china i haven't been able to get through. He also said there is a ROM upgrade for the Hong Kong version that would enable 3G on the 850 band. I am just as confused as I was before I called.
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That's the 850 GSM, not UMTS. Yes, this has been covered with the Diamond, a ROM update enabled the 850mhz GSM band for it to be quad-band.
Black93300ZX said:
That's the 850 GSM, not UMTS. Yes, this has been covered with the Diamond, a ROM update enabled the 850mhz GSM band for it to be quad-band.
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The tech made it sound like it was a different Hardware version, he may not know what he is talking about, but i was able to contact the people in China (through skype) but they were not helpful. She gave me the HTC Hong Kong number I'll try them later. Hopefully we can rule out the fact that there might be hardware differences.
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The tech made it sound like it was a different Hardware version, he may not know what he is talking about, but i was able to contact the people in China (through skype) but they were not helpful. She gave me the HTC Hong Kong number I'll try them later. Hopefully we can rule out the fact that there might be hardware differences.
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Well if you can find anything with the hardware ID of RAPH110, I can personally guarantee it has the hardware to run on AT&T 3G. Other than that, we'll see within the next few days as people will be getting and testing RAPH100's with the AT&T ROM.
bersca said:
Well, that's the million dollar question, isn't it? Many of us are waiting to find out the answer. The AT&T ROM which has already been released on this site should enable access to UMTS 850/1900 bands which AT&T uses. The question is does this phone have the hardware to support this or will the US version have different hardware to access these bands. The answer to this question should be revealed in the next day or two as UK versions of this phone start showing up on US doorsteps including mine.
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We are just in progress to buy the Raphael or tp wait for the Xperia. We are travelling to Europe and Asia,but live in the US. As a result we want the UMTS working on 850, 1900 and 2100. Can you figure out if this is a hardware issue or a ROM update. I tseems the Xperia can do it, but we dont like to wait much longer and would like to go with Raphael but the UMTS is a working issue....
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We are just in progress to buy the Raphael or tp wait for the Xperia. We are travelling to Europe and Asia,but live in the US. As a result we want the UMTS working on 850, 1900 and 2100. Can you figure out if this is a hardware issue or a ROM update. I tseems the Xperia can do it, but we dont like to wait much longer and would like to go with Raphael but the UMTS is a working issue....
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This has been said many times, AT THIS TIME, NO ONE CAN GUARANTEE. In the next few days it will be tested, keep an eye out on the forum.
Would it be possible to flash the ATT Radio for the fuze on an HTC Touch Pro?
As long as you have hardspl, flashing a Fuze ROM on a Touch Pro one shouldn't be a problem.
So then I would be able to get north american 3g on an HTC touch pro?
Edit sorry, I meant the radio not that crappy ATT branded stuff.
pimpedz said:
So then I would be able to get north american 3g on an HTC touch pro?
Edit sorry, I meant the radio not that crappy ATT branded stuff.
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No you will not. The Touch pro doesn't have UMTS 850 and 1900, which are the bands AT&T uses for 3G. There is a thread about this already.
Mods please move this to the appropiate thread or close?
I got that much, but I still think they might be hidden in there, somewhere.
As you wish.
I keep reading on this forum and websites the last 5 days and I'm getting tired from this. I need someone fulfill me with an answer that will let me decide between the original HTC touch pro and the ATT FUZE.
I know some differences between them like
1. FUZE has not front camera
2. different keyboard layout (I like the orignal more the FUZE)
3. fuze has PTT button extra
4. the cover back on the fuze is shiny like the diamond; the original pro is dark black (which I like more than the shiny one)
5. the big difference between the prices (which is I do not care about)
HOWEVER, my question is if I bought the original unlocked HTC Pro the Europe version or north American (don't know what the difference), will it work in US with AT&T network as good as the Fuze? (I mean with the data connection e.g. 3G, GMS, UTMS, Tri and quad band, etc)
I need someone to help me so I can decide, please...
Thanks in advance..
Bassil
i would assume it'll work in all locations... i bought my tytn2 in kuwait and it works on at&t 3g in the states and tmobile 3g in the states, also worked on 3g in bahrain, qatar, afghanistan and kuwait
I've been thinking of the same thing... The biggest benefit is the big price difference between the Fuze and the Touch Pro for me....
But, I'll be without bloatware from the get-go... And teh rubberized back is a nice feature.
Plus, I think the Touch Pro is packaged with earphones from the start...
jeez... guys it boils down to one thing; the original touch pro DOES NOT work on at&t 3G. everything else is skin deep. if you want 3g on at&t get the fuze
omaralt said:
jeez... guys it boils down to one thing; the original touch pro DOES NOT work on at&t 3G. everything else is skin deep. if you want 3g on at&t get the fuze
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Lol... well that solves my problem! Thanks for the info!
omaralt said:
jeez... guys it boils down to one thing; the original touch pro DOES NOT work on at&t 3G. everything else is skin deep. if you want 3g on at&t get the fuze
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you mean the original HTC pro does not support 3G????
bassil2022 said:
you mean the original HTC pro does not support 3G????
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It does, but it does not have the proper frequency for 3G on At&T network. It will work on at&t edge network. At&t uses the 1900 (850 band in select places)(down)/2100(up) band is how i understand it. So to get 3G speeds you need to be able to pick up both. The rest of the world uses 900(down)/2100(up).
keyboard
does anyone know if the fuze's keyboard can changed to original pro's?
because I don't like the way that ATT organize the buttons in fuze's keyboard. I like the pro's coz its like the laptop's keyboard and of course easier to use and faster.
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does anyone know if the fuze's keyboard can changed to original pro's?
because I don't like the way that ATT organize the buttons in fuze's keyboard. I like the pro's coz its like the laptop's keyboard and of course easier to use and faster.
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Thats subjective, I did not like it until I got it in hand and its much better having the symbols around the keys vs the numbers which I dont use often while typing. Especially since I use my thumbs vs my full hand.
There are different roms that have different files for the keyboard, and I believe you can remap some of it...how much I do not know.
The Truth
Here's The Facts The Htc Touch pro unbranded Has no us 3g The Htc Fuse Has us 3g The fuse has no front Camera The Uk Version has a Front Camera If you Dont want the Att Bloatware Crap you Can Flash the HTC unlocked Rom to your Fuse Now you have a Htc UK Version With us 3gb And your keyboard layout will be the Same as The Uk Version As Well Now So you can Turn your Fuse into the Uk Touch pro plus get us 3g And Get the keyboard layout And Save 300 Bucks more For the Same phone....you make the Smart Choice
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It does, but it does not have the proper frequency for 3G on At&T network. It will work on at&t edge network. At&t uses the 1900 (850 band in select places)(down)/2100(up) band is how i understand it. So to get 3G speeds you need to be able to pick up both. The rest of the world uses 900(down)/2100(up).
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Not really, 3G doesnt depend on two seperated frequency bands for bidirectional data/voice.
Some details of the bands used in the UK HERE, the 2100 band has always been 3G only, 900 for GSM (O2 and Vodafone), 1800 for GSM aswell (Tmobile and Orange).
Generally you only need two specific carriers inside the frequency band allocated to 3G so your mobile would transmit on (for example) 2101.1 MHz and the Base station would transmit on 2121.1 MHz. Its quite a poor use of frequencies to have such a huge gap between the two since you are lowering the bandwidth available on the lower frequency. I believe the gap between the two carrier signals (in terms of frequency) is the guard band??? Ive no idea what sort of bandwidth 3G would actually use overall but i would assume MHz rather than Khz (as with 2G) since we can cram 7.2Mbit down the line now using HSPA.
bassil2022 said:
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4. the cover back on the fuze is shiny like the diamond; the original pro is dark black (which I like more than the shiny one)
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Bassil
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FYI, You can get the Pro back for the Fuze http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455650
thanx
lulugirl896 said:
FYI, You can get the Pro back for the Fuze http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455650
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thanks man, you are the best
cover has been solved
keyboard>>>> still under the light (no solution)
nucentury08 said:
Here's The Facts The Htc Touch pro unbranded Has no us 3g The Htc Fuse Has us 3g The fuse has no front Camera The Uk Version has a Front Camera If you Dont want the Att Bloatware Crap you Can Flash the HTC unlocked Rom to your Fuse Now you have a Htc UK Version With us 3gb And your keyboard layout will be the Same as The Uk Version As Well Now So you can Turn your Fuse into the Uk Touch pro plus get us 3g And Get the keyboard layout And Save 300 Bucks more For the Same phone....you make the Smart Choice
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ummmmmmm sir I don't think I understand you. BUT, if you mean the HTC pro UK version uses 3G same as the AT&T frequency uses, you are wrong. I checked htc.com/UK and I didn't find one. Also, I checked the network coverage that UK use is 2100 for the 3G....
>>> here you go http://www.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=UNITED+KINGDOM
I dont use data, so i could care less about the 3g. I would be happy to trade my fuze for a touch pro if anybody cares too, although the actual trade would be the hard part.
I want to buy this phone on ebay but I have a couple of questions.
I live in CHile so I need the quadband gsm vercion.
1) Can anyone tell me what carries use this? just to make shure, I cant exacly take the sellers word. For example I say a nextel for 300 bucks (about). The seller clames it works world wide.
2) Is the unlock software available already?
Sorry found it!
3) is the fuze and the raphael the same phone? I have seen some that look very diffrent, are they exacly the same just different color. What really looks different is the keyboard.
Thanks
fernandosaez said:
3) is the fuze and the raphael the same phone?
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They are the same phone. There are GSM and CDMA versions of this phone.
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They are the same phone. There are GSM and CDMA versions of this phone.
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Just to clear something up,
FUZE = GSM this version of the phone released by ATT on their US GSM network (only North American 3g version)
RAPHAEL = TOUCH PRO (both GSM and CDMA)
You will want to find out what frequencies your carrier uses for GSM and 3G (they will tell you, or look it up) and get the Raphael that suits your needs
Currently in the GSM iteration there is the FUZE, which works with North American 3G and the Touch Pro which will work with Euro/Asian 3G.
If you post your ebay link (or PM me or somebody) we can tell you for sure
thanks...much clearer! Searching..searching