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Ipaq 6915 and GPS usage....???

Hello
I will shortly be the lucky (I hope if the purchase goes ok) owner of a Ipaq 6915 and wanted to know if anyone has got any experience at all with running TomTom on this unit...?
I have found the software that I want to buy....
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=48M0&fb=22&InMerch=1
...but I am struggling to know if it will work on my device. I am reading of problems with maps not found or TomTom only supporting devices that are on their list of approved devices, I'm not sure if that is right....?
Reading the link above I can't see the 6915 listed and would appreciate any help on whether I should buy from them and am I right in assuming that there are no demo of this software to test compatibility...???
I have mailed TomTom support from my account but still have not got a reply.
Sorry if the above is a really obvious question but I am rather new at this.

Actually the 6915 should come with a built in version of TomTom (the model I've seen had it, but this may very depending on region) specialized for it. It also has a map downloading app, but you will need to pay for an account.
I suggest you wait until you receive the device before considering purchasing additional navigation software.

<hangs head in embarrassment> - thanks for your help, it shows how new I am to thing. I understood it had a built in GPS but I didn't know a version of TT come built in, it seems to get better..!!!!
When you write about it needing an account would that be to register for the map in the area that I live...?

No need to be embarrassed.
GPS PDA / phones don't usually come with a built in navigation software. HP did good on this one.
I am not sure how it works exactly. I just saw that the app can download one free map as an example, some small area I think.
I know you need to pay if you want to download additional maps, but I have no idea how the registration process works.
I only had the device to play with for a few days, so I didn't get very far with it (Not to spoil your joy of the new toy but I really didn't like the square screen).

Thanks for your help, again. I will now wait to conclude the purchase of the device (the seller is waiting for his latest gadget before letting me buy the 6915)
I have spent so long trawling through forums and posts to find out as much as I can (obviously it didn't do me much good) on whether TomTom is approved on the device and will work. And then what I need to buy.
Good job they didn't have TT in stock at the above supplier as I would have bought it ready, now that would have been an embarrassment....!!!!
Thankyou again for your help and maybe its just me but my navigation skills around TomTom's website on finding more information is poor, I suppose that is why I need the GPS function....!!!!
Here is hoping that I only need to have ONE device and not a pocket full of the things, including several chargers and leads...!!!!!!

Well, I have been using this ipaq with TT version 6 and without any problems. The original ipaq did come with a TomTom pre-installed with a map of a small area. Well, I ended up installing another copy of TT6 - had no problems at all. A very good PDA - used to use xda2i earlier, but now do not need to carry any gps receiver as it is built in.

Thanks for the feedback spahwa - with it having the built in GPS, and other features, that is why I am interested in it. This means I will hopefully only have one device to carry around etc etc etc.
Glad to see that TT6 can be installed if required.

ttn6 is a great app... the 6515 however uses agps, so be warned. it requires the download of lto dat files every 3 days or else the gps wont function there are alternative 10 day lto files out there...
i was unhappy with the performance, or more accurately, the way the agps system works on my 6515 and more recently my 6945... ttn6 installed fine to both devices. i currently run ttn6 on my h5555 ipaq with a navman sleeve. i also like iguidance for either device.
just wanted to give you a heads up about the agps, cause i didnt know anything about it untill ofter the fact. there are devices out ther with different chipsets and quicker satelite recognition, so shop around a bit if you can
digit

mmm... You certainly have given me something to think about that I wasn't aware of that could real implications on the practical use of the device.
Thanks VERY much for your post.

i should add that my primary device is an hw6945 and im very happy with it. although i dont use it as my primary gps device, its a very well rounded device. the only short-comming is the 240x240 screen which for some is a huge limitation (for me its not too bad as i have other devices which fill the void)... again, i would read into some alternatives before you dive into something. there are many devies and many new devices that are coming out with gps now
jd
edit: i would google "6515 tt6" and like searches to get a feel of some of the issues people have been dealing with regarding tomtom, and the agps unit on this device in general

jdigitL said:
ttn6 is a great app... the 6515 however uses agps, so be warned. it requires the download of lto dat files every 3 days or else the gps wont function there are alternative 10 day lto files out there...
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that's not true. the GPS will still function w/o the lto files, although the ttff may be affecte as a result. There's a tweak (let me know if you don't have) to download the 10 day lto files, but otherwise, I don't really think this is a showstopper. The performance of the agps is defnitely on par with a sirf3 chip in a mobile device.
i was unhappy with the performance, or more accurately, the way the agps system works on my 6515 and more recently my 6945... ttn6 installed fine to both devices. i currently run ttn6 on my h5555 ipaq with a navman sleeve. i also like iguidance for either device.
just wanted to give you a heads up about the agps, cause i didnt know anything about it untill ofter the fact. there are devices out ther with different chipsets and quicker satelite recognition, so shop around a bit if you can
digit
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I am happy with the performance, no problem with the fix or what soever.

"There's a tweak (let me know if you don't have) to download the 10 day lto files"
... idont have please enlighten me is this based on either device or limited to the 6515, as im using a 6945 at this point...
thanks,
john

srry, doublepost

hey i also own a hw6945 and i was wondering if you have anywhere specifically where i can get programs for this screen size? im particually looking for an aim program that fits this screen sizze....thx

On my HW6915 there is no single problem running TT5. TT6 also runs great, however TT5 runs smoother.
Although AGPS is builtin, there's no need to use this software. Without updates the builtin GPS normally gets a fix within a minute.

i bought the hp 6915 at christmas and its the first pda ive had, i installed tt 6 on it and it works fine for me,
as far as the tomtom they give you on the hp 6915 is the vertion 4.0
you can the download for free a map of your town but you will have to buy any other maps or download them on bit torrent (grin)
if you do that there is a small mod to do in the windows system if tomtom can't find the gps radio
change the "IsEnabled de 1 to 0." in the \HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\section using a system editer like resco
What is true though is the screen size is too small. The next pda i buy will definatly have a bigger screen but the hp is certainly a pda swiss army knife
thats my opinion anyway
larry

6915 manual said that the 4 files for the gps can be downloaded through activesink but i use free wifi spots to download them every few days.
the main advantage about agps is that it get's fix much faster

GPS software for Tornado

Hello you fine bunch of people out there! I was wondering what was the best gps software for the tornado? And if someone can post a link to where I can find it.THANKS!!!

Use Route 66 Mobile 7 for Windows Mobile Smartphone
Code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/31361762/Route_66_Mobile_7_WMS_7.0.3040_EasyInstall.zip

not working on my imate SP5. Application starts, shows startup screen, apparently connects with GPS, and shuts down. Any ideas?

of course not, nobody on here knows how to fix anything! I've been looking all day for an answer as to why route 66 7 keeps telling me that there isn't enough memory to load the map and then shuts down, nobody knows. Plenty of threads from like 2006! but nobody knows! AHGHHHHHHHH!!!!! I probably won't get a decent answer for that anytime soon either. Good luck man! and sorry bout this.

try an map for smartphone and will load
i had the same problem
Maps for PPC are not working
Maps for Symbian are not working
Please buy the apropiate map
Here WAREZ is not allowed

here is my route 66 without map
it is working on Tornado and Vox
http://rapidshare.com/files/96949057/route66.rar.html
You need to buy an SMARTPHONE map for your location

I was looking for GPS software myself a while ago. What I finally decided on was GPSDash (http://wimobi.com/gpsdash/overview.sph2.php?pid=sph2). What I liked was the ability to use custom maps, which are easily made with Google map downloader (for either satellite maps or street maps)
You have to register both to get full functionality and there's no navigation function, but it works well enough for dataloging and knowing exactly where you are.
Aside from that, I also recommend the Google Maps application for smartphones if you have a data plan. It ties with your GPS and, even if you don't have a GPS, gives you an approximate location based on cell tower triangulation.
One more site to mention is http://www.maps-gps-info.com/fgpfw.html. I stumbled across it looking for j2me apps for an old Nextel phone I have. There's lots of smartphone apps there, but I haven't tried most of them.

GPSVP is free too

WARpig5 said:
Hello you fine bunch of people out there! I was wondering what was the best gps software for the tornado? And if someone can post a link to where I can find it.THANKS!!!
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Have you tried the Windows Live Search? It includes Maps, Driving Directions, From-To-Reverse Route, and many other little features. Maybe not as powerfull as the paid GPS softwares, but surely has got me out of trouble on the road many times. I can post you link if you care to see it, or just search for "Windows Live Search". Its a 700+ Cab. Good Luck

Internet connection required for GPS???

Hello, I downloaded a GPS program that is supposed track where i've been when its running, no maps or anything just a line. My question is, Why does my phone keep connecting to the net when I start the program and turn on the GPS? Does the net need to be connected to use the GPS?
TIA
Si Cwan

Only if you have aGPS enabled or if your program requires it.

I doubt you could be too much more vague (well okay you could have left out that it is a GPS program) in your inquiry.
I would suggest firt that you ask this question on the site where you got the GPS program and second maybe provide a little of of which of the many GPS programs this is so that if someone has specific knowledge of that app they might actually be able to reply.

I should have just asked if an Internet connection was required to use the GPS Receiver in this (AT&T Fuze) phone...
the program i'm talking about is this one here, NoniGPSPlot

It doesn't look like that program requires an internet connection, so my earlier post still applies.
If you have aGPS turned on, then it will try to connect to the internet first, this is because its assisted-GPS and will contact your provider's servers to help get a GPS fix.
If you have aGPS turned off, then no, you don't need the internet.
Check Start > Settings > System > AGPS Settings.

Just to use the GPS Receiver no you don't need internet.
For navigation with maps you have 2 options:
1) Internet based such as google maps & Live Search, these require a constant internet connection.
2) Device based such as TomTom, Garmin, iGO etc, these store the maps locally on your storage card so no internet connection is required.
The program you linked to doesn't appear to even use maps and works by simply showing your position in relation to saved positions allowing you to navigate (like a compass) in their general direction. This would be useful for maritime navigation, flight navigation and GeoCaching but certianly not all that useful in your car as a travel aide.

Thanks to both of you!
Yea, I planned on using it to map out some four wheeler paths my friends have, i dont need a map for that, at least not how i want to use it for.
which brings me to my next question (which i might have to start a new thread)
which GPS Nav software is best on the fuze? i've heard of the 3 you posted, but I thought that iGo had a problem with WM6.1

Now your next question is very subjective, it depends on what your looking for.
I hated Garmin, really jumpy and resource heavy. The lag was laughable.
TomTom was nice, maps were good turn my turn was nice. The voice prompts were usable. Where TT excelled was the UI, just simple and clean. Used both v6 & v7.
iGO8 (later builds) work fine on WM6.1 (used it both on my Kaiser & Fuze). Didn't really like the UI but in the end it was what I used until I dumped the Fuze. Why did I stick with iG0? The TTS (text To Speech) Turn by Turn voice prompts. Instead of "Turn Right in 400 yeards" (TomTom) it said "Prepare to turn left in 1/2 mile on IL 31 Main Street"! The maps were slightly more up to date also.

There's a number of threads on this in the software section here.
iGo works fine with WM6.1. Garmin is also nice but doesn't have TTS. TomTom is good also.
TomTom doesn't have my subdivision in their maps as well as a few other places I go, so that's why I don't use it.

kyphur said:
Now your next question is very subjective, it depends on what your looking for.
I hated Garmin, really jumpy and resource heavy. The lag was laughable.
TomTom was nice, maps were good turn my turn was nice. The voice prompts were usable. Where TT excelled was the UI, just simple and clean. Used both v6 & v7.
iGO8 (later builds) work fine on WM6.1 (used it both on my Kaiser & Fuze). Didn't really like the UI but in the end it was what I used until I dumped the Fuze. Why did I stick with iG0? The TTS (text To Speech) Turn by Turn voice prompts. Instead of "Turn Right in 400 yeards" (TomTom) it said "Prepare to turn left in 1/2 mile on IL 31 Main Street"! The maps were slightly more up to date also.
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I like the Garmin interface, but I wish the maps flowed like iGo and TomTom instead of updating once a second.
The only reason I keep Garmin on my card is because it uses better routes than iGo sometimes. Even though I have the newest Navteq maps for both and have tried all routing settings, Garmin always gave me the most logical routes while iGo would give me longer ones.

sicwan said:
Thanks to both of you!
Yea, I planned on using it to map out some four wheeler paths my friends have, i dont need a map for that, at least not how i want to use it for.
which brings me to my next question (which i might have to start a new thread)
which GPS Nav software is best on the fuze? i've heard of the 3 you posted, but I thought that iGo had a problem with WM6.1
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Referring to your 4x4 stuff (not the navigation), you might want to check out sportsdo.net. They have a pretty good system for off-road adventures (I use it for mountain biking and hiking). There are no maps, but you can upload your tracks to there portals, and it will show you where you've been on a google-map sort of display. It also tells you elevation gains and losses and a bunch of other things (internet connections aren't needed while using sportsdo, but you can upload you're stuff remotely if you have one).

The latest Bing App is [email protected]!

Don't bother to upgrade to Bing 5.0.11249.0: it is pure bling. They have made the interface "prettier" but took away alot of the functionality. Not only does it not give proper "live" feedback for turn-by-turn directions, a good part of the map is covered by icons that you can't move, especially in landscape mode. Movie and other searches are also far more tedious.
This is definitely a downgrade. But why?! Google has upped the ante on GPS software and it looks like if MS has folded. Come on, guys - get real! Fumbles like this one will surely doom the windows platform!

I unfortunatly agree with you
The graphics face lift is welcome, but everything else is crap.

I agree too.

Me too... One of the best functions of the old version was the ability to SMS the search results to someone... cant do that.
It also shuts off the screen... even if you're in GPS mode. Cannot do long/lat as before, doesnt tell how many sats you're seeing... it is exactly what you guys said... crap.
I thought I had a copy of the latest old build somewhere but I dont... anyone care to help?

Found the old one... "Normality has been restored"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4012497

Because of this things that I like sites that archive old versions. Like OldVersion

Go to m.bing.com and follow the links to the older versions and choose either the WM5 or the WM6 version, not the WM6.1 or 6.5.

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Because of this things that I like sites that archive old versions. Like OldVersion
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Great find!

Thanks!

trudat,
but what do you guys think about the voice recognition?

I think Windows Mobile Marketplace still has the old version. The old version is 4.x, the new is 5.x
I could be mistaken but I think the voice recognition engine is the same in the old version and new version. I didn't have any issues with 4.x voice recognition.
It could also be the fact that 5.x is in beta. I would give MS the benefit of the doubt, they are trying. I would use the Feedback option in Help to give MS some constructive criticism

VR seems to work the same. No major improvements there. I hope this beta will lead to something else more significant, but I'm not holding my breath.

I never really used the voice recognition cause it never really worked too well. I let my fingers do the talking

Que?
On my Kaiser it works fine for a while like for many people, and then suddenly says my Phone isn't supported. WTF? But OK, I too will happily downgrade, as it really doesn't appear to be any better than the previous version. I'd beg to differ with those who say the speech recognition doesn't work though. I find it one of the best things about WLS/Bing. It works absolutely amazingly well. But then you do need to speak clearly. I use it with a BT headset too, great results.

Yeah, despite apparently working fine, it quits automatically on my Kaiser saying it isn't supported. Oh well.
Played around with a bit on a coworker's TP, and it's definitely a mixed bag. It's very nice-looking, and I'm impressed how it integrates Bing's "pic of the day" styling. Really nice-looking.
It is definitely less functional in many ways. The gas price finder never worked for me anyways (prices were never up-to-date and correct around here), but the theatre listings would definitely be missed. Luckily there's other apps for that.
It IS, however, better for web searches. In fact, it's surprisingly useful for web searches, since it seems a little snappier than using bing.com (or google.com, for that matter) in the browser. Hopefully MS tacks some of the better local search functions back on.

[Q] HTC Locations premium navigation query

I know google maps has navigation. but i need offline maps. cant always guarantee a connection where i go.
I was wondering has anyone tried the onboard locations maps? particularly has anyone got the premium features? live traffic and wot not.
I have been using copilot 8 on my hd2 and its pretty rubbish. was hoping for more from locations, i read somewhere that deep inside it has a tom tom connection.

Have a look here :
sygic
http://www.sygic.com/en
or here
Navigon
http://www.navigon.com/portal/it/produkte/navigationssoftware/mobile_navigator_android.html
or here
IgoMyWay
http://www.igomyway.com/android/en/
or here
NDrive
http://www.ndrive.com/en/platforms/android
Hope its help dude.

I like the look of that sygic, but have to admit am curious about locations. I wonder how deeply integrated it is, and if the traffic system is any good.
Does anyone know if the premium traffic is connected to the tomtom HD traffic system? According to the spiel from tomtom it tracks user traffic flow in real time and adjusting routes accordingly.

freedirk said:
I like the look of that sygic, but have to admit am curious about locations. I wonder how deeply integrated it is, and if the traffic system is any good.
Does anyone know if the premium traffic is connected to the tomtom HD traffic system? According to the spiel from tomtom it tracks user traffic flow in real time and adjusting routes accordingly.
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I can't comment much on this but one thing I can say is that a nice bit of integration according to the Sense tour on the HTC website is integrating the call screen with the Nav system so that calls don't interrupt your gps functionality while driving.

I saw that and liked it. Just wondered if anyone had tried it indepth.

I try nearly all on my WM6.5 but as far as i know tomtom isn't for android platform. for others gps soft, Sygic and Ndrive are quite nice, but by far I prefer IGO and if u have RDS u got in real time all informations ...... etc etc.
Personnally I havent yet the HTC sensation, waiting to be totally bootloaders unlock.
Its up to U, to see whats your real need and Google is your friends to have all informations needed.

Hmm... but which Navis are really working for the Sensation Display?
As far as I've ready, just the Copilot and anotherone, not the iGo?

freedirk said:
I know google maps has navigation. but i need offline maps. cant always guarantee a connection where i go.
I was wondering has anyone tried the onboard locations maps? particularly has anyone got the premium features? live traffic and wot not.
I have been using copilot 8 on my hd2 and its pretty rubbish. was hoping for more from locations, i read somewhere that deep inside it has a tom tom connection.
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Can't you pay for Locations on a monthly basis? For a pretty small fee you can try it out for a month and see if it suits your needs. That's what I plan to do once I get my hands on the phone.

I read that too. Anyone using any others with any measure of success?

last sygic version does not (yet) work on sensation. It automatically closes. Hoping for a fix soon.

One of the PC Mags (UK), PC Pro from memory, has just done a sat nav comparison. For a separate system go for TomTom (their conclusion) but for a phone-based one go for CoPilot Live 8.
They're also about to release CoPilot Live 9 and, from the brief review I've seen it fixes a lot of the shortcomings of 8.
Dave - not used either, just going from what I've read before any flames start ...

dvhttn said:
One of the PC Mags (UK), PC Pro from memory, has just done a sat nav comparison. For a separate system go for TomTom (their conclusion) but for a phone-based one go for CoPilot Live 8.
They're also about to release CoPilot Live 9 and, from the brief review I've seen it fixes a lot of the shortcomings of 8.
Dave - not used either, just going from what I've read before any flames start ...
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No flaming, just reporting my experience. Just used CoPilot 8 on a recent trip, and the map was bad. Directed me to turn onto a bridge when there was no road to do this. I've found other map errors in my local area for road segments that have been in place for years. Of course, any GPS can have map errors, but relying on updates a couple of times a year at most, rather than online, increases the likelihood. Hopefully if and when Google implements maps stored on the phone updates will be available anytime.

yeah, but this here is about the sensation...
I've had alot of different navigations on my phones and pocket pcs. but right now, it seems just the copilot is working well on the sensation (which btw, I hate, its too bubble-gummy for me, looks like driving through disney world). the iGo and Navigon don't work to my knowledge for example (so far, I found iGo the best, Tomtom and Navigon tied).
but the OP just wants to know: who uses the built-in Nav with premium service, and how good is it.