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I will shortly be the lucky (I hope if the purchase goes ok) owner of a Ipaq 6915 and wanted to know if anyone has got any experience at all with running TomTom on this unit...?
I have found the software that I want to buy....
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=48M0&fb=22&InMerch=1
...but I am struggling to know if it will work on my device. I am reading of problems with maps not found or TomTom only supporting devices that are on their list of approved devices, I'm not sure if that is right....?
Reading the link above I can't see the 6915 listed and would appreciate any help on whether I should buy from them and am I right in assuming that there are no demo of this software to test compatibility...???
I have mailed TomTom support from my account but still have not got a reply.
Sorry if the above is a really obvious question but I am rather new at this.
Actually the 6915 should come with a built in version of TomTom (the model I've seen had it, but this may very depending on region) specialized for it. It also has a map downloading app, but you will need to pay for an account.
I suggest you wait until you receive the device before considering purchasing additional navigation software.
<hangs head in embarrassment> - thanks for your help, it shows how new I am to thing. I understood it had a built in GPS but I didn't know a version of TT come built in, it seems to get better..!!!!
When you write about it needing an account would that be to register for the map in the area that I live...?
No need to be embarrassed.
GPS PDA / phones don't usually come with a built in navigation software. HP did good on this one.
I am not sure how it works exactly. I just saw that the app can download one free map as an example, some small area I think.
I know you need to pay if you want to download additional maps, but I have no idea how the registration process works.
I only had the device to play with for a few days, so I didn't get very far with it (Not to spoil your joy of the new toy but I really didn't like the square screen).
Thanks for your help, again. I will now wait to conclude the purchase of the device (the seller is waiting for his latest gadget before letting me buy the 6915)
I have spent so long trawling through forums and posts to find out as much as I can (obviously it didn't do me much good) on whether TomTom is approved on the device and will work. And then what I need to buy.
Good job they didn't have TT in stock at the above supplier as I would have bought it ready, now that would have been an embarrassment....!!!!
Thankyou again for your help and maybe its just me but my navigation skills around TomTom's website on finding more information is poor, I suppose that is why I need the GPS function....!!!!
Here is hoping that I only need to have ONE device and not a pocket full of the things, including several chargers and leads...!!!!!!
Well, I have been using this ipaq with TT version 6 and without any problems. The original ipaq did come with a TomTom pre-installed with a map of a small area. Well, I ended up installing another copy of TT6 - had no problems at all. A very good PDA - used to use xda2i earlier, but now do not need to carry any gps receiver as it is built in.
Thanks for the feedback spahwa - with it having the built in GPS, and other features, that is why I am interested in it. This means I will hopefully only have one device to carry around etc etc etc.
Glad to see that TT6 can be installed if required.
ttn6 is a great app... the 6515 however uses agps, so be warned. it requires the download of lto dat files every 3 days or else the gps wont function there are alternative 10 day lto files out there...
i was unhappy with the performance, or more accurately, the way the agps system works on my 6515 and more recently my 6945... ttn6 installed fine to both devices. i currently run ttn6 on my h5555 ipaq with a navman sleeve. i also like iguidance for either device.
just wanted to give you a heads up about the agps, cause i didnt know anything about it untill ofter the fact. there are devices out ther with different chipsets and quicker satelite recognition, so shop around a bit if you can
digit
mmm... You certainly have given me something to think about that I wasn't aware of that could real implications on the practical use of the device.
Thanks VERY much for your post.
i should add that my primary device is an hw6945 and im very happy with it. although i dont use it as my primary gps device, its a very well rounded device. the only short-comming is the 240x240 screen which for some is a huge limitation (for me its not too bad as i have other devices which fill the void)... again, i would read into some alternatives before you dive into something. there are many devies and many new devices that are coming out with gps now
jd
edit: i would google "6515 tt6" and like searches to get a feel of some of the issues people have been dealing with regarding tomtom, and the agps unit on this device in general
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ttn6 is a great app... the 6515 however uses agps, so be warned. it requires the download of lto dat files every 3 days or else the gps wont function there are alternative 10 day lto files out there...
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that's not true. the GPS will still function w/o the lto files, although the ttff may be affecte as a result. There's a tweak (let me know if you don't have) to download the 10 day lto files, but otherwise, I don't really think this is a showstopper. The performance of the agps is defnitely on par with a sirf3 chip in a mobile device.
i was unhappy with the performance, or more accurately, the way the agps system works on my 6515 and more recently my 6945... ttn6 installed fine to both devices. i currently run ttn6 on my h5555 ipaq with a navman sleeve. i also like iguidance for either device.
just wanted to give you a heads up about the agps, cause i didnt know anything about it untill ofter the fact. there are devices out ther with different chipsets and quicker satelite recognition, so shop around a bit if you can
digit
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I am happy with the performance, no problem with the fix or what soever.
"There's a tweak (let me know if you don't have) to download the 10 day lto files"
... idont have please enlighten me is this based on either device or limited to the 6515, as im using a 6945 at this point...
thanks,
john
srry, doublepost
hey i also own a hw6945 and i was wondering if you have anywhere specifically where i can get programs for this screen size? im particually looking for an aim program that fits this screen sizze....thx
On my HW6915 there is no single problem running TT5. TT6 also runs great, however TT5 runs smoother.
Although AGPS is builtin, there's no need to use this software. Without updates the builtin GPS normally gets a fix within a minute.
i bought the hp 6915 at christmas and its the first pda ive had, i installed tt 6 on it and it works fine for me,
as far as the tomtom they give you on the hp 6915 is the vertion 4.0
you can the download for free a map of your town but you will have to buy any other maps or download them on bit torrent (grin)
if you do that there is a small mod to do in the windows system if tomtom can't find the gps radio
change the "IsEnabled de 1 to 0." in the \HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\section using a system editer like resco
What is true though is the screen size is too small. The next pda i buy will definatly have a bigger screen but the hp is certainly a pda swiss army knife
thats my opinion anyway
larry
6915 manual said that the 4 files for the gps can be downloaded through activesink but i use free wifi spots to download them every few days.
the main advantage about agps is that it get's fix much faster
Hi Everyone,
Well I have my GPS and TyTN up and running smoothly but there is a surprisingly big lack of maps and/or software that seems to cover Japan/Tokyo. With this country being GPS mad there must be something available I can use without having to resort to google maps and downloading stuff all the time. TomTom does not do Japan (??) So perhaps a Japanese local offering?
Anyone in Tokyo using an interesting solution.
Thanks,
Ray
FYI - Mapking seems to offer a Tokyo map.
I was astounded at first, too that it's so hard to find any decent maps for Japan. None of the big players seems to cover the land of the rising sun. But it's not that surprising if you take into account that (nearly) everybody is using GPS in their cars or on their cellphones (which all have to have GPS since last April).
That said, check out www.mgmaps.com. It's a Java midlet application, but a darn good one! It allows you to *download Google Maps tiles of your chosen area and store them on your card*. Saves you time and data once you cut out the map(s) you need. It'll take you a while, but it's a great and free solution that even offers navigation instructions in some areas (I think Google doesn't cover all of Japan right now).
The other solution would be http://uud.info/shop/catalog/contact_us.php?language=en where you can buy maps for Garmin Map Source that you can use on you PPC if you have the according software. Usually Garmin bundles with their GPS hardware, but they recently released a program that enables you to just use your own (builtin) GPS. I hope one of those
Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol
I like the CoPilot Live, works very well and has a nice look and feel.
Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.
Thx to both of you! I still would like to compare TomTom with McGuider ...
Eriol
McGuider
Hello,
I am using last version McGuider (7.x I think) and it work fine, but map and icons are too small, I and don't know if it can be repair.
Please if some one use thist program please write down here about how work.
Bye
Garmin XT is the best imo. TT cannot hold a candle to Garmin.
iGO 8
I think iGO 8 is the best solution for Raphael
Navigon
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Hi Jochen,
I have a stand alone PNA running Navigon 6.5, and I like it, too. But my experience with Navigon, especially running on my HTC Wizard (MN 6.x), is that the route calculation is rather slow and the whole app is not that fast on a PDA. This might be different on a Raphael due to processor speed, though. We also will use an Xperia X1 here: Is it possible to run MN7 on 800x480 screens?
Eriol
i maybe wrong, but some navigation programs will only run when the supplied memory card is installed. Installing the maps to another card will not work which therefore means you have to swap cards when using the software. Check before you buy!!!
jochenandries said:
I really like Navigon !
Search Youtube for Navigon 7 !!
Greetzzz,
Jochen
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Navigon is nice-- but once you're in the tunnel and lose signal it would say you've reach your destination I also don't like its route calculation-- it's giving me a longer route than tomtom
To my mind ist the default navigation (TomTom 7.451) the best. it uses vga, is fast, new maps
Eriol said:
Hi there,
I am looking for a good car navigation solution for Raphael (for travelling in Europe). After reading infos about TT which seems to work at least with the latest releases and Navigon (for which I am not that sure ...), I now read about Tele Atlas McGuider which also seems to be quite good and even less expensive, but it seems to lack TMC or other traffic assistance support which is crucial for me (radio broadcasted or via internet, I do not mind, but it is a must).
I know that there are some other solutions out there. I wonder if you guys have experiences to share, also w/regard to VGA screen resolution and so on.
Thanks!
Eriol
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ardsar said:
Co Pilot live is ok, but the traffic part of it is rubbish compared with tomtom. There is no visual display of traffic incidents ahead on the map, only a description that pops up with incident details which you either avoid or ignore. You can set it to automatically reroute, but you dont know whats going on. In my opinion, tomtom is currently the best.
I also found co-pilot slow to scroll around the map, but there again i dont have a fast mem card. Unfortunately there si no trial version available. make sure you get the version specific for the HTC diamond (also compatible with Touch Pro). It can be purchased online (from handango) cheaper than most retail stores.
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In Copilot7 there is indeed visual display of incidents ahead on the map, you also can get to incident-specific info in just three taps, reporting delay and other usefull info........
No need for automatic rerouting, you can let Copilot ask you what you want to do, after you have read the incident-info and delay time.....
No need for the diamond-version either, regular version runs great on my Touchpro....
See.......................you we're allmost right.....
Someone tried Navigon Mobile Navigator 7 for PDA on Raphael?
Is it compatible and full working?
Before then I buy, I asked to the support team, but no clear response about it.
Thanks.
NAVIGON Mobile Navigator 7 can work fine on Raphael, with this simple workaround.
You need a GPS port replicator (like Franson GPSgate) to solve the GPS signal stability problem on MN7.
I hope this can help who love this product family.
I searched for this on the forum and couldn't find any helpful threads before anyone complains
What would you guys recommend and more importantly, can it be found relatively easily on the shadier parts of the web? (don't post a link or mention a website, even in a PM)
Please don't ban me Mods, I'm only 14 and I bought my Fuze full price because I didn't have an upgrade so I'm a little short on cash
thers many programs and im sure you can use forced qvga programs for that vga device of yours..like tweaks2k.net brute force vga and such..but the programs are (that i use)
igo8 (horrible imo)
destinator7 (my favorite)
tomtom7
garmin xt (my second favorite because it gives you local ACCURATE gas prices!)
Thank you. I think I am going to go with TomTom 7 as it was the easiest to find and I was getting consistant 1.2mb/s download speeds. It seems to be good enough and gas prices don't really affect me as I'm not supposed to be driving yet anyways
I've been testing AmazeGPS (amazegps.com), an over-the-air voice navigation system that is (legitimately) free. I have to say that I'm quite impressed. Yesterday was the first time that I trusted it to get me someplace that I wasn't completely sure how to get to, and it performed very well. The routing it gave me was different from how I had gone before (the way Google maps sent me), but it was much better -- skipped a lot of traffic and was more direct. Coming back home, it gave me a different routing, which was actually better for that direction than retracing my path would have been. It led me clearly through a couple of confusing intersections with multiple roads converging. Search works really well, too.
The Windows Mobile version is still in beta (it was originally a Java app), so I imagine there will be a few more bells and whistles when it goes GA, but I'm really pleased so far and don't see any need to pay for a GPS package.
I may have to try Amaze, never heard of it before. I still prefer to have all my maps on a storage card though since I travel a lot and am frequently in areas of little or no service.
Not sure what pazookie doesn't like about igo8, it's my current favorite, especially since the maps are by state so you can take only what you need to save space (though that's not a big issue with the huge SDHC).
pazookie said:
thers many programs and im sure you can use forced qvga programs for that vga device of yours..like tweaks2k.net brute force vga and such..but the programs are (that i use)
igo8 (horrible imo)
destinator7 (my favorite)
tomtom7
garmin xt (my second favorite because it gives you local ACCURATE gas prices!)
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where can i get the destinaator7 in english?
wmm said:
I've been testing AmazeGPS (amazegps.com), an over-the-air voice navigation system that is (legitimately) free. I have to say that I'm quite impressed. Yesterday was the first time that I trusted it to get me someplace that I wasn't completely sure how to get to, and it performed very well. The routing it gave me was different from how I had gone before (the way Google maps sent me), but it was much better -- skipped a lot of traffic and was more direct. Coming back home, it gave me a different routing, which was actually better for that direction than retracing my path would have been. It led me clearly through a couple of confusing intersections with multiple roads converging. Search works really well, too.
The Windows Mobile version is still in beta (it was originally a Java app), so I imagine there will be a few more bells and whistles when it goes GA, but I'm really pleased so far and don't see any need to pay for a GPS package.
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What i didnt like was when searching for businesses farther than a 10mile radius. The providers listed are not finding the place i want under "local search"
sammypwns said:
Thank you. I think I am going to go with TomTom 7 as it was the easiest to find and I was getting consistant 1.2mb/s download speeds. It seems to be good enough and gas prices don't really affect me as I'm not supposed to be driving yet anyways
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Ive searched and found that the tomtom7 is free,but most of the download links have been taken down.And also that the maps are not free.
iGo8:
Pros--
-You can get TTS
-Smooth map updates as you're driving
-Good graphics
-NavTeq maps, better than TeleAtlas in the US
-Fast when searching POIs
-All data is stored on memory card, good when hard resetting
-You can use different skins
Cons--
-Slower at getting a fix than Garmin
-No live traffic
-Routing can be a little off compared to Garmin
-ETA has always been off for me, really noticeable on long trips
Garmin Mobile XT:
Pros--
-One of the best/trusted routing engines out there
-Polished and easy interface
-v5 has integrated Google Search for endless POI searches (if you have internet access)
-Live Fuel and traffic
-Just released updated maps, uses Navteq
-ETA is always accurate
Cons--
-No TTS (still tells you when/where to turn, but doesn't say street names)
-Refresh rate is only once per second, not as fluid as iGo
-For local streets, it usually displays CR52 instead of the common street name
TomTom:
-I never really used this program because the latest TeleAtlas maps I could find don't even have my 5 year old subdivision in them.
iGuidance 2009:
-I only played with this a couple days. Not much of an update from v4. SLOW interface compared to the others when moving from screen to screen. Accurate routing and ETA. Has native TTS. Has new, just released Navteq maps.
i have garmin mobile xt, tomtom, and google maps. google maps is great, up to date, free, and you can find everything with it but it sucks for giving directions since its flat 2d and has no voice or automatic directions. i love garmin the most. its very smooth and easy to use. it also gives things like gas prices, flight times, and things like that. the garmin software is actually free, you have to pay for an unlock code to get it to work with the builtin gps unit otherwise it only works with garmin branded units and you have to buy the maps. but its worth it. you can also get it illegally but its such a great piece of software its worth the money. it ends up being cheaper than an actual garmin unit and i prefer my phone to any on the market. tomtom is the one that confuses me. you can get it from so many cabs posted everywhere. i installed it to get footprints working. its kinda ugly and would get a fix for me. i wasnt impressed but its ok because i have garmin and google maps.
I suggest Tomtom Navigator 7. I would prefer it over any just for the fact that I have used it for years without any problems. Unlike my crappy Garmin. Allthough I will say that the garmin did seem a little more friendly, but after using the TomTom systems I've got very used to them.
i like the mixed opinions. people saying opposite things that fit them better and youre being told to find your own option that suits you. helpless community ftw! ^_^
amAzeGPS
I have to agree with the amAzeGPS option. I have been using this piece of free software for the past 3 weeks and I am thoroughly impressed.
Clearly, the main problem is that you require a data connection (the maps are not stored on your device); therefore it's use in a "deadzone" is nill.
I have been led to believe that they are coming out with a version that will enable you to download your route, thus negating the deadzone effects for navigation. I am hopeful that they will also include additional navigation informtion if you take a wrong turn :-0 (but that might be asking too much).
M
amazegps looks pretty good actually for being free. i think you understand the limitations if youre darting towards free software.
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i like the mixed opinions. people saying opposite things that fit them better and youre being told to find your own option that suits you. helpless community ftw! ^_^
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What do you expect? Everyone has their own opinion when it comes to software and preferences. Some people love TomTom and some love Garmin, others hate one or the other.
I tried to give as many pros and cons as I could about the software I've used the most, and that way based on the user's preferences, it'll hopefully help their decision.
For some people, they absolutely need TTS and it is high on their priority list, that really narrows down the options. For others, TTS isn't very important. Some people rank Garmin high because of the Garmin Online features, others feel its a waste because they don't use them.
It all boils down to what you want in a program, what's important to you, and if you ask what's the best one, you're never going to get everyone in agreement. If you ask about 3 programs, I can promise you that each program would get atleast one vote that its the best thing out there.
look if you can't use google search and torrents to find what you need then you don't deserve turn by turn gps and you can use google maps
anyway, in terms of apps, i've always been a fan of tomtom, but only recently acquired garmin xt as tomtom will not work with your radio off.
Amaze looks pretty good, but I haven't had a proper chance to use it. I live in Las Vegas and this place grows literally by the day. So from my perspective there are tons of roads missing and it doesn't even have my neighborhood (2 years old) at all.
Question for those who use garmin:
Do you find V5 to be slower than V4 as far as using the actual program goes?
Which do you think runs smoother?
On my Fuze, Garmin refereshes VERY slow, but it has a nicer interface. For me TomTom has been very reliable, and that is what I use.
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Question for those who use garmin:
Do you find V5 to be slower than V4 as far as using the actual program goes?
Which do you think runs smoother?
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As far as moving around the program? v5 seems just as fast as v4 was for me. As far as the map refreshes, Garmin has always refreshed at about once per second, even in the standalone Nuvi ones.
I'm trying the previously mentioned services this week!
I pay the $10 a month for the AT&T Nav, now I wonder if I have been wasting my cash on it. For the most part it performs well and I use it daily. Sometimes it takes 10+ minutes to find a GPS sat. and that's unacceptable for a paid service. I've heard good things about OnCourse and would like to hear more about it if anybody has experiences.
Google Maps is good if you have time and the skill to stare at the little screen without crashing into a tree.
I know google maps has navigation. but i need offline maps. cant always guarantee a connection where i go.
I was wondering has anyone tried the onboard locations maps? particularly has anyone got the premium features? live traffic and wot not.
I have been using copilot 8 on my hd2 and its pretty rubbish. was hoping for more from locations, i read somewhere that deep inside it has a tom tom connection.
Have a look here :
sygic
http://www.sygic.com/en
or here
Navigon
http://www.navigon.com/portal/it/produkte/navigationssoftware/mobile_navigator_android.html
or here
IgoMyWay
http://www.igomyway.com/android/en/
or here
NDrive
http://www.ndrive.com/en/platforms/android
Hope its help dude.
I like the look of that sygic, but have to admit am curious about locations. I wonder how deeply integrated it is, and if the traffic system is any good.
Does anyone know if the premium traffic is connected to the tomtom HD traffic system? According to the spiel from tomtom it tracks user traffic flow in real time and adjusting routes accordingly.
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I like the look of that sygic, but have to admit am curious about locations. I wonder how deeply integrated it is, and if the traffic system is any good.
Does anyone know if the premium traffic is connected to the tomtom HD traffic system? According to the spiel from tomtom it tracks user traffic flow in real time and adjusting routes accordingly.
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I can't comment much on this but one thing I can say is that a nice bit of integration according to the Sense tour on the HTC website is integrating the call screen with the Nav system so that calls don't interrupt your gps functionality while driving.
I saw that and liked it. Just wondered if anyone had tried it indepth.
I try nearly all on my WM6.5 but as far as i know tomtom isn't for android platform. for others gps soft, Sygic and Ndrive are quite nice, but by far I prefer IGO and if u have RDS u got in real time all informations ...... etc etc.
Personnally I havent yet the HTC sensation, waiting to be totally bootloaders unlock.
Its up to U, to see whats your real need and Google is your friends to have all informations needed.
Hmm... but which Navis are really working for the Sensation Display?
As far as I've ready, just the Copilot and anotherone, not the iGo?
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I know google maps has navigation. but i need offline maps. cant always guarantee a connection where i go.
I was wondering has anyone tried the onboard locations maps? particularly has anyone got the premium features? live traffic and wot not.
I have been using copilot 8 on my hd2 and its pretty rubbish. was hoping for more from locations, i read somewhere that deep inside it has a tom tom connection.
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Can't you pay for Locations on a monthly basis? For a pretty small fee you can try it out for a month and see if it suits your needs. That's what I plan to do once I get my hands on the phone.
I read that too. Anyone using any others with any measure of success?
last sygic version does not (yet) work on sensation. It automatically closes. Hoping for a fix soon.
One of the PC Mags (UK), PC Pro from memory, has just done a sat nav comparison. For a separate system go for TomTom (their conclusion) but for a phone-based one go for CoPilot Live 8.
They're also about to release CoPilot Live 9 and, from the brief review I've seen it fixes a lot of the shortcomings of 8.
Dave - not used either, just going from what I've read before any flames start ...
dvhttn said:
One of the PC Mags (UK), PC Pro from memory, has just done a sat nav comparison. For a separate system go for TomTom (their conclusion) but for a phone-based one go for CoPilot Live 8.
They're also about to release CoPilot Live 9 and, from the brief review I've seen it fixes a lot of the shortcomings of 8.
Dave - not used either, just going from what I've read before any flames start ...
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No flaming, just reporting my experience. Just used CoPilot 8 on a recent trip, and the map was bad. Directed me to turn onto a bridge when there was no road to do this. I've found other map errors in my local area for road segments that have been in place for years. Of course, any GPS can have map errors, but relying on updates a couple of times a year at most, rather than online, increases the likelihood. Hopefully if and when Google implements maps stored on the phone updates will be available anytime.
yeah, but this here is about the sensation...
I've had alot of different navigations on my phones and pocket pcs. but right now, it seems just the copilot is working well on the sensation (which btw, I hate, its too bubble-gummy for me, looks like driving through disney world). the iGo and Navigon don't work to my knowledge for example (so far, I found iGo the best, Tomtom and Navigon tied).
but the OP just wants to know: who uses the built-in Nav with premium service, and how good is it.