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Is HTC Diamond a good new Phone to get ?

I been struggling between these new phone, and wondering which is the best to get. I'm leaning toward Diamond since I could get it by tomorrow, but heard many bad things with it's battery life, lack of memory card slot, and such. So can anyone tell me if I should get the Diamond or should I just give it alittle wait for something else ?
HTC Touch Diamond, HTC Touch HD, Samsung Omnia, IPhone 3G, Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1, Andoid? ......... etc.
Thanks in advance !

The diamond is a decent choice for a new phone, however if you can afford it, hold out for the Touch HD, Xperia, Or Dream/G1.
Those 3 phones will be the most killer handsets to hit the market this year.
Touch Diamond is right below them, still making a great handset. But go with a more powerful device if you can. They become outdated quickly.

The thing with the touch HD is that is is almost exactly the same spec to the touch pro including the same chipset and battery, combined with a massive screen the HD must draw more power, its basic physics and since it uses the same chipset its doubtful it will have much in the way of more power efficency so to the point the battery must be pretty poor compared to a pro.
So Yes the HD sounds great but the battery question needs to be answered first
Diamond in my opinion is a bit to small and the battery is very poor otherwise its very good
Pro is a bit more chunky than the diamond but is actually much the same size as previous generation of phones even with a keyboard its smaller than an O2 Orbit.
Iphone looks nice, and does its job well, but in my opinion its poor quality your very limited in what you can do with it and i wouldnt touch it with a barge pole due to its big brother style atitude to software, music and phone contract.
the other two i have no experiece with so cant really comment, for me im going to see how i like the Pro when O2 releases it, hopefully the question on HD battery life can be answered by then, then i can make my mind up.

As stated above, wait for the last models of 2008:
Omnia, HD, G1, Xperia
And after that you can make your choice
Diamond is not bad, but there are much better models
Depends on how much you want to spend.............

Diamonds are forever!
I know people go on about the Diamonds' battery life, but considering the power and size of this little device, I wouldn't consider it useless!
I get a good two days use out of mine... a few calls, loads of internet browsing, WiFi use, games, and music via a bluetooth headset. I really don't think that's bad. Let's face it, the only phones that last a week on one charge these days are feeble lack-lustre, brick sized devices.
Another point to remember is that because the TF3D interface is sooo much fun to play with, people are probably using their Diamonds' a whole lot more than their previous devices, therefore giving the impression that the battery life is poor.
The Touch HD does look good, but remember it's bigger and will be more power hungry! I think the Diamond is the best in it's class... best size... best specs... best TFT... I LOVE IT!!!

I was researching the HTC Touch Diamond and Touch Pro; But I have now pre-ordered the HTC Touch HD due to it's spec's & state-of-art design!

galaxys said:
I was researching the HTC Touch Diamond and Touch Pro; But I have now pre-ordered the HTC Touch HD due to it's spec's & state-of-art design!
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Hi galaxys
May I ask where you place your preorder for HTC HD?
And for what country¿
Thanks

orb3000 said:
Hi galaxys, May I ask where you place your preorder for HTC HD?
And for what country¿Thanks
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Hi, from the UK & should be available in November...here's the company web:
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....category=591602F7-C32B-44D8-859D-F9230F032E7E

grahamkdt said:
I know people go on about the Diamonds' battery life, but considering the power and size of this little device, I wouldn't consider it useless!
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My Orbit can last up to ~8 hours using its GPS on a standard 1250 battery
HTC Touch Diamond according to HTC, will last 2 hours, even taking in to account battery sizes, the diamond isnt very power economical.
But your right, dont use the GPS and the phone isnt to bad, indeed it would probably last as long as my orbit so in that respect it does a a good job, the problem with that way of thinking is if i leave it on my desk in standby and never use it at all it will last for a week or more
but seriously its a great little PDA and if size is important than thats a winner, if high usability is, than perhaps its not the phone for you.

galaxys said:
I was researching the HTC Touch Diamond and Touch Pro; But I have now pre-ordered the HTC Touch HD due to it's spec's & state-of-art design!
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Thats a bold thing to do, unreviewed, unproven apart from a couple of vids an a few snaps, ignoring the bigger screen and the better camera that the HD has and the keyboard that the Pro has they are identical i believe, oh not forgetting the 3.5mm jack on the HD.
What im concerned about is the battery on the HD, running that thing may take a lot more juice an the pro wasnt great in the first place.
Thats a bold gamble, one i think i'll wait until the reviews start flying about giving ideas of its good and bad points.

Thank alot for the reply guys !
I have decided just to get the Diamond since it's a decent phone and I could get my hand on it right now. I'll pass on those new phones since they might have the same flaw or even more problems. I'll be a proud owner of Diamond in a few hours.

galaxys said:
Hi, from the UK & should be available in November...here's the company web:
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....category=591602F7-C32B-44D8-859D-F9230F032E7E
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Thanks a lot mate
I´ll have to wait for a friend travelling to UK to buy it for me and bring it to Mexico, if i wait to carriers to bring it here will be too old to buy...
Cheers,

[Q] Fuze really worth it!?

Hi, I see a few people complaining about how the TouchPRO is better than the ATT Fuze, because of X and Y reason. I saw a few reviews on you tube, and read a few topics in here.
I have a Few Qs:
-The screen of the FUZE/touch pro, is it hard (like the iphone) or is it soft (like the TILT screen) ??
-Read or see somewere that ATT take out the YouTube "program" (or what ever that is called), is that true!?? so the Fuze users cant use the "cool" youtube app the TouchPro has?
-I have a Tilt, should I buy the Fuze!?
-anything else i need to know before buying it!??
thanks 4 your help

1. Fuze is worth it. TP isn't. Fuze is $200 cheaper. Big difference. Unless you don't care
2. The screen is harder than the tilt, but softer than the iPhone
3. Youtube program is in the /Windows folder, Aee tee n tee just decided to take it out from the Internet tab on TF3D and from the Start menu
4. Yeah. I had a tilt, I still have a tilt, but I bought the fuze. So much better. Loving it since Nov 12.
5. Finger print magnet. Don't drop it. Get a case and invisibleSHIELD for it.
6. Also. Some of these has been asked before. Please search

There are benefits to both, if you really want the device go for it and be happy. Either one is a good phone.
I wanted to get the Fuze because I want 3g support. I have no regrets about it or their changes to the device really.
The Tilt has some good Roms for it and I know a few people who have held back upgrading because they did not feel the price was worth it for just looks when they could get their Tilts to work similarly. Upgraded hardware not mentioned by them.
Kraize;
Do you know where the list or shortcuts are pulled from for the "All Programs" button on the programs tab? I want to add YouTube to that vs my start menu but cant seem to locate that full list. At least not yet...

The Fuze is the better deal.. unless of course you have tmobile in an area that doesn't have 3G and are willing to shell out an extra $250 for a front camera.. then get the TP.
Because I've made my Fuze nothing short of the HTC Touch Pro, except for the camera.. and of course minor differences in housing (the back is very glossy)... which i change the housing to my phones every 4 months.. so it doesn't matter

thanks guys, the thing is that I have to b uy it to ATT at the full price, cause I dont even have 1 year on my 2 year comitment I made last december
I forgot to say that, so for me both the TOUCH PRO and FUZE cost basically the same.

I got the fuze today. THe phone it self is good but ATT sucks >_< im gona return it in a few weeks so i can actually benfit payn for the first month...

egk-69 said:
thanks guys, the thing is that I have to b uy it to ATT at the full price, cause I dont even have 1 year on my 2 year comitment I made last december
I forgot to say that, so for me both the TOUCH PRO and FUZE cost basically the same.
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Go with the Fuze if you're in an area with AT&T 3G service. The Touch Pro doesn't support AT&T's 3G bands. It's that simple.
If you're comfortable enough with ROM flashing, you can make your Fuze exactly into a Touch Pro (with a PTT button on the side and no front camera) or you can get a cleaner, smooth-running AT&T ROM by installing the NATF Fuze ROM here on the ROM dev forum. This is highly recommended because AT&T limits the speed on the Fuze to UMTS, but their network and the Fuze are HSDPA-capable. It's still pretty snappy even with the stock ROM.

Read my info here to help with your decision too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2921230&postcount=7

I was just able to play the FM radio through my Headphones and then start up MusicID and ID the song...how freakin awesome is that?!?
Fuze FTW

thank you guys, I love this forums!!
Another Q: anywere I can buy a Fuze (no contract, cause I cant) cheaper than AT&T price!???
let me know i really want the phone (kinda Gift it to my self in this cristmas) but im kinda broke right now, hehe
Thanks

egk-69 said:
thank you guys, I love this forums!!
Another Q: anywere I can buy a Fuze (no contract, cause I cant) cheaper than AT&T price!???
let me know i really want the phone (kinda Gift it to my self in this cristmas) but im kinda broke right now, hehe
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same here, except that I'm not broke. Just sold my tilt for $500

wow!! 500 for the TILT!!!
wow, how can I sell mine on that price!?, hehe
I want to sell my tilt so I can buy the Fuze, I would love to buy the Fuze, but i dont think is going to be possible for a long time, I still have 1 year more of contract so I cant buy it at the 2 year comitment price, and the no contract price its too high for me right now...

egk-69 said:
wow!! 500 for the TILT!!!
wow, how can I sell mine on that price!?, hehe
I want to sell my tilt so I can buy the Fuze, I would love to buy the Fuze, but i dont think is going to be possible for a long time, I still have 1 year more of contract so I cant buy it at the 2 year comitment price, and the no contract price its too high for me right now...
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Talk to the store managers. I was 11 months into my 2 year on att. They let me have it for 299 and just added 13 months to my contract to make it 2 years again. They can do it without any hassle if they want to. Sold my tilt for 225 so it only cost me 75 bucks to upgrade (that and another 24 months stuck on att again)

laakness said:
I was just able to play the FM radio through my Headphones and then start up MusicID and ID the song...how freakin awesome is that?!?
Fuze FTW
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i just tried it too..FREAKEN AWESOME! <3

Front Camera
Hi everyone.
This forum is amazing.
I read XDA almost everyday .
The only complain I have for the FUZE is why they removed the Front Camera.
That is the only part I can complain about the FUZE after having a cook rom on it.

I bought a Tilt with AT&T contract extension in late October, and then returned it under AT&T's 30-day return policy in order to buy the Fuze. Overall, I'm very happy I made the switch. I much prefer the form factor of the Fuze (totally flat front, smaller more manageable size), and the VGA screen is awesome. Upgraded hardware specs are nice, but frankly haven't given any noticeable performance difference over the Tilt.
The things I don't like about the Fuze are as follows:
- Glossy finish (prefer hard-rubberized surface)
- Screen is "hard", requiring more effort than the softer Tilt screen
- Although I still can't believe that this flaw passed the HTC design team, the back of the HTC phone is not flat, but has this lame Diamond pattern with little ridges that prevent the phone from lying flat on a desk.
- Fewer hard buttons than Tilt, and no jog wheel (admittedly, I've gotten used to the Fuze layout and don't miss the lack of hard buttons).
- I think TouchFlo3D is lame, and finally removed it from my device yesterday. I prefer the HTC Home interface from the Tilt (which I'm now using on my Fuze).
The AT&T Fuze was, for me, very slow out-of-the-box. I flashed a cooked HTC Rom, and I've very pleased with the results. Although I thought the Tilt was an awesome phone, I don't miss it one bit. I like to keep cell phones for at least 3 years (preferably 4), so wanted something with the best hardware specs that should hold up well over time.
- DDB

Do not buy 2nd gen Diamond and Touch Pro 2 Phones

We should not buy their 2nd gen phones which are barely worth the upgrade, not to mention i would not even do an even exchange for the new phone. The only thing they improved was Touchflo which will be ported over.
Seriously give us the same camera but without flash, the TP is the reason i did not buy a separate camera since it took picture pretty decently compared to the non flash Diamond which people say camera was HORRIBLE.
Then HTC understands that no matter which phone is out as long as it is a newer not necessarily better HTC PHONE it will sell. I would hold off till a decent upgrade is up, even you Euro owners as you are probably HTCs main customers.
This would not go over in the Desktop/ Notebook area or even the camera area. So we shall not allow it to go over in the PDA phone area. Would you buy a brand spankin new dell with a Pentium 4 with new casing and some fancy bells and whistles? If yes then i recommend you seek help.
Intel however DID do something smart, yes they now release a seemingly slower 1200mhz and 1600mhz chips BUT with newer technology which is so suited actually alot faster than my older Pentium 4 3Ghz pc. Not to mention it only uses abou 20 watts of power and gives 8hr battery life, compared to the usual 2 to 3hr.
Imagine if they put that in next gen phones along with win 7.

Well i kinda agree.. they haven't upgrade any of the spesifications (without the camera for diamond2).. still qualcomm and so forth.. well tf3d will be ported over as oon as devs get their hands on any roms and so forth.. well i must say that i'm a little dissappointed .. well the touch pro2 do look very very good when it comes to the tilt feature.. both phones do have larger screens.. which makes it (maybe) possibley easier to port over se xperia features like panels and so forth.. (well not that i care about panels).. well we just need to see some more reviews.. but i am a little dissapointed when it comes to specs..

All they have done is re-case the TP and slide the keyboard up. I certainly wont be buying the new TP 2. Not for that money anyway. i will stick with my TP.

im kinda worried they will have trouble porting the new tf3d since they are wvga now and we still dont have panels on our vga devices but hopefully the wonderful devs can make it work cuz landscape tf3d on the new ones looks so nice

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im kinda worried they will have trouble porting the new tf3d since they are wvga now and we still dont have panels on our vga devices but hopefully the wonderful devs can make it work cuz landscape tf3d on the new ones looks so nice
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ahh you make a point about the wvga, BUT the devs managed to port over manilla hd which is also wvga

xboxhaxorz said:
We should not buy their 2nd gen phones which are barely worth the upgrade, not to mention i would not even do an even exchange for the new phone. area.
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What ????? My contract with AT$T ( for my Tilt ) is up in April and I am on the new TP II/ Fuze II as fast as they can say, $199 and a new 2yr contract.
Phones, like computers, do not get upgraded every year, every two years or so for me. I don't think that HTC expects everyone who bought a TP or Diamond last summer to run out and buy a new TP II or Diamond II , but I do think that these phones are aimed towards those of us who bought Tilts in fall 2007. After months of " sorry, we've moved on " by many of our Kaiser brethren, it will be great to flaunt my new TP II with my new " tilt " screen.

My friends and I think that the recession is why this phone came out. Same parts, nothing much changed, but charging more money. That's my theory anyway.
And no, I don't want it. Bigger screen without a beefier processor. Terrible Gimped Keyboard. No Flash. No front D-Pad. Nothing I want there.
Also I got my Fuze in November, and AT&T sure as hell wouldn't let me get a new phone so soon. American Contracts are stupid, but so is the price of phones without a contract.

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What ????? My contract with AT$T ( for my Tilt ) is up in April and I am on the new TP II/ Fuze II as fast as they can say, $199 and a new 2yr contract.
Phones, like computers, do not get upgraded every year, every two years or so for me. I don't think that HTC expects everyone who bought a TP or Diamond last summer to run out and buy a new TP II or Diamond II , but I do think that these phones are aimed towards those of us who bought Tilts in fall 2007. After months of " sorry, we've moved on " by many of our Kaiser brethren, it will be great to flaunt my new TP II with my new " tilt " screen.
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i'm with you on this, main reason i didnt get a fuze is because i love my tilting screen. this provides me the fuze+tilt so i'm buying it day one att gets it.

same reason that I could care less about the extra features. Battery life is worse.
Only thing I like is the tilting screen, the integrated tf3d is awesome though, and the better resolution screen. That's it. No flash, no better camera, no wm6.5, no better ram or processor, etc. I hate the look of the keyboard.

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same reason that I could care less about the extra features. Battery life is worse.
Only thing I like is the tilting screen, and the better resolution screen. That's it. No flash, no better camera, no wm6.5, no better ram or processor, etc. I hate the look of the keyboard.
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HTC have said they'll provide WM6.5 ROM updates to both the TP2 and the Diamond2.
The Diamond2 is a smaller version of the Blackstone, and the TP2 is the love child of the TP and a Blackstone.
I got a Diamond last time round, and will probably be getting a TP2 this year for the tilty goodness and the gorgeous looking screen.

Okay I agree with some points like:
1. if you can put a 5 MP cam in the Diamond 2 why not in the Touch Pro 2?? There is even more room for it! Furthermore I saw somebody wrote that they took away the cam on the front, dude, check your eyes, the cam is still there man! Furthermore it has FM radio, read somewhere that somebody complained it didn't, well it has!
2. The rest of the features are a little the same, conference mode is cool and also the speaker phone option, nice for handsfree calling...
3. I love the fact is has a bigger screen! Great for navigating in the car, browsing etc....
4. I agree that maybe this model is aimed for those who purchased or got a Tilt in the summer/fall 2007 and who's contract is expiring this summer/fall which might explain why this model has a tilted screen feature. I really loved this feature and really miss it with my Touch Pro!
5. The design I find is awesome, it gets a 10 from me, face it guys, stop winding, they delivered on the design part! Especially the weight has been reduced as well as the thickness, its just awesome, give the people some credit at the design department will you?!
I traded my Tilt for a Touch Pro last Christmas, so since my contract is ending in the fall (after 2 years), I will surely get this phone, and take a 1 year contract with it just in case they come with a newer model next year that totally blasts away this one! I guess the model of next year will have:
- a better processor 1 ghz or higher for example
- 1 GB ram and 512 or more MB ROM ?
- same screen I guess, WVGA is awesome man!
- 5 MP camera
- I hope they keep the tilt screen feature....
- I like the new TouchFLO3D as well, awesome!
- for the rest, I'm contented with the features, just needs more power!
Furthermore, dudes, to be honest with you, WM 6.5 looks disgusting!!!! When I saw it it almost made me hurl! I will wait for WM 7 and bypass 6.5.... they can't be seriously contemplating on bringing that fugly OS system man!
This was just my 2 cents on the matter, so I will be getting this phone come fall!

We may be looking at capacitive touch screens on these devices. That and the tilt feature on the TP2 will probably have me upgrading....

Is it just me or do you guys find the new Diamond and Touch Pro's kinda ugly compared to the current ones?! :O The metal casing and round corners turn me off, I love the look of the current Diamond and TP, they look more clean and streamlined with the flat black plastic and squarish corners. And there's no D-pad
Also the new TP is freaking HUGE, its almost like carrying a UMPC in your pocket.

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Is it just me or do you guys find the new Diamond and Touch Pro's kinda ugly compared to the current ones?! :O The metal casing and round corners turn me off, I love the look of the current Diamond and TP, they look more clean and streamlined with the flat black plastic and squarish corners. And there's no D-pad
Also the new TP is freaking HUGE, its almost like carrying a UMPC in your pocket.
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Sure beats carrying both a laptop and a phone. I, believe it or not, think the fuze is too small, considering the weight. I was more comfortable holding my tilt than the fuze. I liked the "tilt" of the screen, also. No d-pad? I got over that with my omnia. I'll miss having the flash, though-- no htorch!

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Sure beats carrying both a laptop and a phone. I, believe it or not, think the fuze is too small, considering the weight. I was more comfortable holding my tilt than the fuze. I liked the "tilt" of the screen, also. No d-pad? I got over that with my omnia. I'll miss having the flash, though-- no htorch!
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Yes indeed it does beat carrying two devices, but the fact that its a phone and not a laptop is what really bothers me about the size, although the TP isnt all that much smaller (well I just contradicted myself, didnt I ). But I do know what you mean about the Tilt being more comfortable, I also prefer phones that fit in my hand, thats why I hate such phones as the Motorola Razr, its just too dang skinny. Thats why I still favor my ETEN M600 over most 'normal' phones.
Maybe not having a D-pad is just one those things that you have to get used I guess, like you did with the Omnia, but Id still like to have a D-pad

Are you people under four feet? The Fuze feels nice in my hands. It's solid, it's built well, it's uniform in colour and design (especially with a black theme) and it's not flimsy in the slightest. I can feel it in my pocket too.
Now, I would like a larger screen, but everything else on the TP2 is not pretty looking. Also AT&T doesn't have 1 year plans.

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Are you people under four feet? The Fuze feels nice in my hands. It's solid, it's built well, it's uniform in colour and design (especially with a black theme) and it's not flimsy in the slightest. I can feel it in my pocket too.
Now, I would like a larger screen, but everything else on the TP2 is not pretty looking. Also AT&T doesn't have 1 year plans.
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In Holland we can choose between a 1 or 2 year contract, the difference is, with a 2 year you get it for free, with a 1 year you have pay a minimal amount... If in 2010 they come with a newer version with higher specs, then you have the choice to upgrade. I too feel that although the current TP is solid, compact etc. its a lot smaller than the kaiser/tilt and that did feel better in the hand. They can't please everyone but I do fine the design a lot better, but thats personal....

I was just looking at the TP2 on the HTC website, thinking that maybe or at least the processor speed was upgraded, but nothing. Not even the memory capacity. The only upgrade that I see is just the look of it, the "outside". So I guess I will agree on not getting one until they actually come with a better (not only looking), faster, bigger capacity and newer technology phone. Then I'll think about spending few hundred dollars on a new one.

@Sleuth
Sleuth255 said:
We may be looking at capacitive touch screens on these devices. That and the tilt feature on the TP2 will probably have me upgrading....
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Pardon the ignorance but, what do you mean by "capacitive" touchscreens?
I understand is a new tech, but what does it do?

DanQ said:
Pardon the ignorance but, what do you mean by "capacitive" touchscreens?
I understand is a new tech, but what does it do?
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Here you go, read this!
http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?threadid=23389

Is the fuze discontinued?

I went to the att website to find out the price of the fuze and realized that its not there anymore. Is the fuze discontinued? Is att coming out whit a upgrade soon?

mackdaddy09 said:
I went to the att website to find out the price of the fuze and realized that its not there anymore. Is the fuze discontinued? Is att coming out whit a upgrade soon?
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I believe it has been. The AT&T Touch Pro 2 (Tilt 2) is rumored to be released on October 18th.

they dont discontinue it cause a new one is on its way. if it has a section for zip code then its prolly cutting out some of the phones. i know many of the stores in houston are still selling the fuze and the tilt. the phone hasnt been out even a year. everyone with a fuze is still under warranty and everything.

Actually they have discontinued it. I went to an AT&T Replacement store and they would replace the battery for my Fuze because they told me the fuze is discontinued.

It just barely disappeared from the website, but you haven't been able to get it since late August.
My Tilt gave out about then (company phone), and I went it to have it replaced with what I assumed would be a Fuze. There wasn't any there, and when they looked, there was only one in the entire state, and the store that had it wouldn't send it down. They claimed they could order one, but I doubt it would ever have come.
It's pretty clear in hindsight that they were clearing inventory ahead of the TP2 coming out (supposedly) October 18. I think they jumped the gun by a month or so, but hey, if you can't get a Fuze, that's a perfect chance to try to sell an iPhone, right?

hollywould said:
Actually they have discontinued it. I went to an AT&T Replacement store and they would replace the battery for my Fuze because they told me the fuze is discontinued.
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can't get a new battery? D: or you can?

I was just on the att website and i saw they have a phone called the htc pure. I do you guess believe this phone is the fuze replacement?

mackdaddy09 said:
I was just on the att website and i saw they have a phone called the htc pure. I do you guess believe this phone is the fuze replacement?
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Fuze is basically an HTC Touch Pro. The "Pure" is based on the HTC Touch Diamond 2. AT&T will also carry the HTC Touch Pro 2 as the "Tilt 2".
In other words, the manufacturing cycle for Touch Pro / Fuze is over. The Fuze device is not rolling off the assembly line anymore. Instead, AT&T has ordered volumes of the HTC Diamond 2 (Pure) and HTC Touch Pro 2 )Tilt 2) from HTC.
Get it?
BTW, I am in the market for a used Fuze in decent condition. PM me if you have one to sell.

I don't like either of the new phones. The Pure looks like the regular diamond. The screen is no bigger then the Fuze (maybe a tad longer).
The Tilt2 reminds me of my Axim x51v. It is about the same size as an iPhone but thicker. Too bad it is identical to the Fuze as far as processor/memory/camera goes.
I like the idea of a bigger screen, but I can't justify spending $300+ for just a new feature. My Fuze already has a newer WM build than Tilt2 out of the box. Just seems expensive for what they are.
I'm holding out. I hear AT&T is picking up the Omnia II which is same screen res but 800mhz proc. 5MP camera too. Or wait for the HTC Leo

I agree with you. I moved from the Wiz AkA Cingular 8125 to the FUZE last fall. So you can see what a big jump that was. The pure and Tilt 2 is a short coming. Same specs just repackaged. I will wait and hope ATT gets the new HD2 (Leo) or something of that caliber.
I can’t thank XDA enough for being the best community for people who share the same passion.
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I don't like either of the new phones. The Pure looks like the regular diamond. The screen is no bigger then the Fuze (maybe a tad longer).
The Tilt2 reminds me of my Axim x51v. It is about the same size as an iPhone but thicker. Too bad it is identical to the Fuze as far as processor/memory/camera goes.
I like the idea of a bigger screen, but I can't justify spending $300+ for just a new feature. My Fuze already has a newer WM build than Tilt2 out of the box. Just seems expensive for what they are.
I'm holding out. I hear AT&T is picking up the Omnia II which is same screen res but 800mhz proc. 5MP camera too. Or wait for the HTC Leo
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Yea since the Tilt2 and Pure (TP2 TD2) came to AT&T, i've been really looking at my Fuze. I love the fact that XDA is great and allows my Fuze to be more then what it actually was developed for. With that said I was never really happy with my Fuze. I think it is the thickness that really kills it. The microphone is horrible too... I'm always getting complaints that background noise is SO bad on my phone (and I've gone through a couple units).
I was really happy with my Dell Axim x51v which could pretty much do anything, except make calls. The Tilt2 reminds me of my Axim but it just seems like a side step to the fuze then a step up.
Seems all current HTC phones max out at 528mhz. I can't really say whether AT&T will top their new phones in a few short months. I'd love to wait around for the Leo but I seriously doubt AT&T will get it for a year or so (if at all). US Carriers never pick up the awesome phones.
Perhaps the Leo will be the upgrade to the Pure next year.

I'm actually on my 3rd FUZE. It's not a bad phone, I agree... It is a bit brickish... Also its very top heavy.
I would have to agree with the speakerphone.... Even using voice command... I have to repeat the command like 10 thousand times when its not dead silence.
But other then that, its got some great roms (Tael&Energy) and it does not look like they are going to be giving up on the phone anytime soon.
The last phone had an issue with white screen, and the phone randomly hard resetted.
They infomed me the last call that the next issue I have, I would be able to do an upgrade due to all of the problems I have been experiencing.
That was about a month ago (seems like when I get close to the endlife of my warranty the phones go nuts. I guess part of me is lucky that it does not happen until after the warranty expired)
My phone has been dropping calls like crazy for the past week, regardless of the rom, even the stock AT&T rom. Even when I put my girls sim in, same issue.... So I guess it's time to call AT&T...
If they are going to exchange the phone, I really would like to get the Tilt2.
I know if I call them now, they are going to end up giving me trouble or me getting suck with a blackberry or iphone...lol
Anyone else have this problem? How long should I wait... I've never ran into this problem before.

I got my first Fuze because my Tilt had the random white screen issue. It was the 3rd tilt I returned, so they let me upgrade to the Fuze. This was also a few months ago. I ended up getting my second Fuze (which I still have now) because of the trap door on the back coming loose 2 days after I got it.
I do see the issues coming right around 60-90 days after I get the phones. I am wondering if this one will have an issue too Course, I do get my upgrade in November.

I just checked my ATT account... The Fuze is listed as out of stock online, they are showing BOTH the Pure and Tilt 2 now as available upgrades.
The Pure is listed with a 5.0 MP camera, Tilt 2 has 3.2. Both have the same amount of Ram and Rom size as the Fuze... I thought the Tilt2 was supposed to be a little better?

I've had my Fuze about 3 months via a free upgrade (from my Tilt) from AT&T. I know there are better phones out there, but I have been very happy with waiting for things to get fully utilized and most bugs worked out of them before I adopt.
Now, can someone point me to where a fix for the Comm Manager ON/OFF Icons can be found. I have been searching the XDA forums without any luck! I will post a separate thread for it...

PhantomYoda said:
I just checked my ATT account... The Fuze is listed as out of stock online, they are showing BOTH the Pure and Tilt 2 now as available upgrades.
The Pure is listed with a 5.0 MP camera, Tilt 2 has 3.2. Both have the same amount of Ram and Rom size as the Fuze... I thought the Tilt2 was supposed to be a little better?
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yes i know its weird how pure and tilt 2 differs ESPECIALLY with camera quality, HTC shouldve been fair enough to slap a 5MP camera on the Rhodium instead of a crappy 3.2mp we got on the Fuze, anyways, specs are the same as well, but the fact that when i looked at the review videos...it seems like the Rhodium seems faster and flawless, but still same specs
youre lucky that u have an upgrade in Nov, mine is next Nov xD
i would definitely buy the tilt 2 for the better keyboard and big screen and battery life but whats holding me back is the LED Flash....thats a useful thing for me to have because i use it as a flashlight if i dont have one in hand
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they dont discontinue it cause a new one is on its way. if it has a section for zip code then its prolly cutting out some of the phones. i know many of the stores in houston are still selling the fuze and the tilt. the phone hasnt been out even a year. everyone with a fuze is still under warranty and everything.
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the AT&T store i went to not too long ago doesnt carry the device anymore which i think is insane! it doesnt make sense to me and some people that why pull out a great phone for a newer one thats got the same specs?and its not even a year old yet? Verizon and Sprint still have their TPs out on display along with the TP2. AT&T should smack their heads back together and put the FUZE back up on the displays over here in this area or anywhere, at least until they get their hands on the Leo, if thats possible....

Samsung Omnia II Verizon

Anyone have this phone? My XV6800 feel in water so I am looking at the Ominia II or the TP2. I need to order today. Was hoping to use my NE2 discount next year with Windows Mobile 7 but I guess now I will just pay full price.
The Omnia II looks nice with the OLED screen, camera flash, 5MP camera, and fast processor (compared to the old ones in TP2). But there is no keyboard and it looks like you cannot turn off Touch Wiz. But other then that is seems less outdated tech then the TP2 (which has a great keyboard, speakerphone, and awesome xda support).
So yeah anyone with experience with the Omnia II it would be greatly apperciated. Hopfully whatever phone I get, it arrives no later then Tuesday.
edit: Forget about it, just going to get TP2 while I wait for WM7...

segadc said:
edit: Forget about it, just going to get TP2 while I wait for WM7...
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Great choice!!!
You won´t regret!
Rhodium is much better than any omnia model

orb3000 said:
Rhodium is much better than any omnia model
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Omnia2 much better
And of course you can turn off TouchWiz

Although it's too late now, you could always drop an eye on Omnia Pro i.e. OmniaII+keyboard (almost), and off course, much much CHEAPER than TP2.

Yeah too late but also the Ominia Pro is not on Verizon at least now. I read that at least the Verizon version of Omnia II turning off Touchwiz only disables the cube or something. I did see HTC sense on it but it looked laggy for now.
My keys (almost all of them) on my XV6800 are working (still call, end, and most buttons minus the standby butt is not working). But the day it didn't I could not stand to text for a long time with just the screen (especially on a resistive. So ultimately that is why I went with the TP2.
I was not excited at all for the TP2 mainly since I convinced myself to skip it and hold out with my XV6800 until WM7 is out. But today I am really excited for the TP2. It will be nice to finally have a screen higher then QVG and more RAM . Still wish it had a camera flash. I guess my wait for WM7 will be a tad easier now. At this point I would not mind paying full price if we get something like the HD2 with a keyboard late next yeah. So yeah hurry up Fedex (tommorow is the day)!