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Anybody with the Fuze

I have the AT&T Tilt, and it's all cool.. but I've had it for almost 2 years now and I'm sick of it. I want a new device to tinker with and flash etc
So, I have a 2 year upgrade available now. Should I use it and spend $350 and get the Fuze, or should I wait for something else?

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I have the AT&T Tilt, and it's all cool.. but I've had it for almost 2 years now and I'm sick of it. I want a new device to tinker with and flash etc
So, I have a 2 year upgrade available now. Should I use it and spend $350 and get the Fuze, or should I wait for something else?
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I have Kaiser, Touch pro, HTC universal and samsung Omnia!
In my opinion, samsung omnia is the best device, hardware vise it has everything that fuze has and more... except for the keyboard of course!
The touch pro, even if its a great device it still has some problems like: GPS lag, poor video playback (much like the tilt) and very poor battery life! (Cant last me for even one whole day without charging, and that is with moderate use!)
Omnia however, lasts for full two days and that is with pretty heavy use!
Bare in mind that Omnia also has 5Mp cam (with flash), and 16GB flash memory!
Also, omnia has no gps lag, no video playback issues, no poor video recording issues, and it has a fast 624MHz processor that is very fast and snappy!
Just my 2 cents!

Happy Fuze User
Hi,
I just got the Fuze when it hit the stores earlier this week. Absolutely love it so far The VGA display (640 by 480) and the 528 Mhz processor were the motivating factors for me to go with the Fuze. Rather than having a separate mp3 player, phone, etc, I like to have everything in one device and so this works like a laptop replacement for me. If you can afford it, I would recommend you to go with it.

well, i got s1 before. 2 weeks before i bought an omnia.
and after two days i throwed it away, at the same day i bought touch pro.
why? omnia is making really bad screen . the screen quality is very bad. well i have to touch the screen really hard to let it work or hit it two times, blah blah blah.
this is the worst thing that happened on omnia.
and the system/hardware just doesnt match/mix together. when i use it, its just doesnt meet my feelings. but htc device will! its hard to explain.
and the whole device, quality is really look like cheap. thin, very light. looks like chinese "shanzhai device"==county stuff. it just doesnt meet its value. thats what i mean. hope will get you some idea. lol
so , finally, i suggest you to get a fuze or hd lol

screen is a face~ lol

JohnQ said:
well, i got s1 before. 2 weeks before i bought an omnia.
and after two days i throwed it away, at the same day i bought touch pro.
why? omnia is making really bad screen . the screen quality is very bad. well i have to touch the screen really hard to let it work or hit it two times, blah blah blah.
this is the worst thing that happened on omnia.
and the system/hardware just doesnt match/mix together. when i use it, its just doesnt meet my feelings. but htc device will! its hard to explain.
and the whole device, quality is really look like cheap. thin, very light. looks like chinese "shanzhai device"==county stuff. it just doesnt meet its value. thats what i mean. hope will get you some idea. lol
so , finally, i suggest you to get a fuze or hd lol
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actually I think the screen is much better on Omnia then on my Touch pro aka the fuze! Could it be you where using older firmware or something?
Anyway, everyones taste is different, I suggest you go try both in your local shop and then decide for yourself!

Re:Branko.savic
yeah, go and feel both of these two device is the best way

Anyone know when the Omnia (Mirage) will be released for AT&T? I have the Touch Pro (Fuze) and love it but want to get my hands on an Omnia too.

at&t is getting the Omnia?
Because they are expensive on Ebay and such.
When is the Omnia for AT&T to be released?

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at&t is getting the Omnia?
Because they are expensive on Ebay and such.
When is the Omnia for AT&T to be released?
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Last I heard the Omnia is due before year end and is supposed to be called the AT&T Mirage.

Do not buy 2nd gen Diamond and Touch Pro 2 Phones

We should not buy their 2nd gen phones which are barely worth the upgrade, not to mention i would not even do an even exchange for the new phone. The only thing they improved was Touchflo which will be ported over.
Seriously give us the same camera but without flash, the TP is the reason i did not buy a separate camera since it took picture pretty decently compared to the non flash Diamond which people say camera was HORRIBLE.
Then HTC understands that no matter which phone is out as long as it is a newer not necessarily better HTC PHONE it will sell. I would hold off till a decent upgrade is up, even you Euro owners as you are probably HTCs main customers.
This would not go over in the Desktop/ Notebook area or even the camera area. So we shall not allow it to go over in the PDA phone area. Would you buy a brand spankin new dell with a Pentium 4 with new casing and some fancy bells and whistles? If yes then i recommend you seek help.
Intel however DID do something smart, yes they now release a seemingly slower 1200mhz and 1600mhz chips BUT with newer technology which is so suited actually alot faster than my older Pentium 4 3Ghz pc. Not to mention it only uses abou 20 watts of power and gives 8hr battery life, compared to the usual 2 to 3hr.
Imagine if they put that in next gen phones along with win 7.

Well i kinda agree.. they haven't upgrade any of the spesifications (without the camera for diamond2).. still qualcomm and so forth.. well tf3d will be ported over as oon as devs get their hands on any roms and so forth.. well i must say that i'm a little dissappointed .. well the touch pro2 do look very very good when it comes to the tilt feature.. both phones do have larger screens.. which makes it (maybe) possibley easier to port over se xperia features like panels and so forth.. (well not that i care about panels).. well we just need to see some more reviews.. but i am a little dissapointed when it comes to specs..

All they have done is re-case the TP and slide the keyboard up. I certainly wont be buying the new TP 2. Not for that money anyway. i will stick with my TP.

im kinda worried they will have trouble porting the new tf3d since they are wvga now and we still dont have panels on our vga devices but hopefully the wonderful devs can make it work cuz landscape tf3d on the new ones looks so nice

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im kinda worried they will have trouble porting the new tf3d since they are wvga now and we still dont have panels on our vga devices but hopefully the wonderful devs can make it work cuz landscape tf3d on the new ones looks so nice
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ahh you make a point about the wvga, BUT the devs managed to port over manilla hd which is also wvga

xboxhaxorz said:
We should not buy their 2nd gen phones which are barely worth the upgrade, not to mention i would not even do an even exchange for the new phone. area.
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What ????? My contract with AT$T ( for my Tilt ) is up in April and I am on the new TP II/ Fuze II as fast as they can say, $199 and a new 2yr contract.
Phones, like computers, do not get upgraded every year, every two years or so for me. I don't think that HTC expects everyone who bought a TP or Diamond last summer to run out and buy a new TP II or Diamond II , but I do think that these phones are aimed towards those of us who bought Tilts in fall 2007. After months of " sorry, we've moved on " by many of our Kaiser brethren, it will be great to flaunt my new TP II with my new " tilt " screen.

My friends and I think that the recession is why this phone came out. Same parts, nothing much changed, but charging more money. That's my theory anyway.
And no, I don't want it. Bigger screen without a beefier processor. Terrible Gimped Keyboard. No Flash. No front D-Pad. Nothing I want there.
Also I got my Fuze in November, and AT&T sure as hell wouldn't let me get a new phone so soon. American Contracts are stupid, but so is the price of phones without a contract.

denco7 said:
What ????? My contract with AT$T ( for my Tilt ) is up in April and I am on the new TP II/ Fuze II as fast as they can say, $199 and a new 2yr contract.
Phones, like computers, do not get upgraded every year, every two years or so for me. I don't think that HTC expects everyone who bought a TP or Diamond last summer to run out and buy a new TP II or Diamond II , but I do think that these phones are aimed towards those of us who bought Tilts in fall 2007. After months of " sorry, we've moved on " by many of our Kaiser brethren, it will be great to flaunt my new TP II with my new " tilt " screen.
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i'm with you on this, main reason i didnt get a fuze is because i love my tilting screen. this provides me the fuze+tilt so i'm buying it day one att gets it.

same reason that I could care less about the extra features. Battery life is worse.
Only thing I like is the tilting screen, the integrated tf3d is awesome though, and the better resolution screen. That's it. No flash, no better camera, no wm6.5, no better ram or processor, etc. I hate the look of the keyboard.

DaPitt84 said:
same reason that I could care less about the extra features. Battery life is worse.
Only thing I like is the tilting screen, and the better resolution screen. That's it. No flash, no better camera, no wm6.5, no better ram or processor, etc. I hate the look of the keyboard.
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HTC have said they'll provide WM6.5 ROM updates to both the TP2 and the Diamond2.
The Diamond2 is a smaller version of the Blackstone, and the TP2 is the love child of the TP and a Blackstone.
I got a Diamond last time round, and will probably be getting a TP2 this year for the tilty goodness and the gorgeous looking screen.

Okay I agree with some points like:
1. if you can put a 5 MP cam in the Diamond 2 why not in the Touch Pro 2?? There is even more room for it! Furthermore I saw somebody wrote that they took away the cam on the front, dude, check your eyes, the cam is still there man! Furthermore it has FM radio, read somewhere that somebody complained it didn't, well it has!
2. The rest of the features are a little the same, conference mode is cool and also the speaker phone option, nice for handsfree calling...
3. I love the fact is has a bigger screen! Great for navigating in the car, browsing etc....
4. I agree that maybe this model is aimed for those who purchased or got a Tilt in the summer/fall 2007 and who's contract is expiring this summer/fall which might explain why this model has a tilted screen feature. I really loved this feature and really miss it with my Touch Pro!
5. The design I find is awesome, it gets a 10 from me, face it guys, stop winding, they delivered on the design part! Especially the weight has been reduced as well as the thickness, its just awesome, give the people some credit at the design department will you?!
I traded my Tilt for a Touch Pro last Christmas, so since my contract is ending in the fall (after 2 years), I will surely get this phone, and take a 1 year contract with it just in case they come with a newer model next year that totally blasts away this one! I guess the model of next year will have:
- a better processor 1 ghz or higher for example
- 1 GB ram and 512 or more MB ROM ?
- same screen I guess, WVGA is awesome man!
- 5 MP camera
- I hope they keep the tilt screen feature....
- I like the new TouchFLO3D as well, awesome!
- for the rest, I'm contented with the features, just needs more power!
Furthermore, dudes, to be honest with you, WM 6.5 looks disgusting!!!! When I saw it it almost made me hurl! I will wait for WM 7 and bypass 6.5.... they can't be seriously contemplating on bringing that fugly OS system man!
This was just my 2 cents on the matter, so I will be getting this phone come fall!

We may be looking at capacitive touch screens on these devices. That and the tilt feature on the TP2 will probably have me upgrading....

Is it just me or do you guys find the new Diamond and Touch Pro's kinda ugly compared to the current ones?! :O The metal casing and round corners turn me off, I love the look of the current Diamond and TP, they look more clean and streamlined with the flat black plastic and squarish corners. And there's no D-pad
Also the new TP is freaking HUGE, its almost like carrying a UMPC in your pocket.

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Is it just me or do you guys find the new Diamond and Touch Pro's kinda ugly compared to the current ones?! :O The metal casing and round corners turn me off, I love the look of the current Diamond and TP, they look more clean and streamlined with the flat black plastic and squarish corners. And there's no D-pad
Also the new TP is freaking HUGE, its almost like carrying a UMPC in your pocket.
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Sure beats carrying both a laptop and a phone. I, believe it or not, think the fuze is too small, considering the weight. I was more comfortable holding my tilt than the fuze. I liked the "tilt" of the screen, also. No d-pad? I got over that with my omnia. I'll miss having the flash, though-- no htorch!

whatledog said:
Sure beats carrying both a laptop and a phone. I, believe it or not, think the fuze is too small, considering the weight. I was more comfortable holding my tilt than the fuze. I liked the "tilt" of the screen, also. No d-pad? I got over that with my omnia. I'll miss having the flash, though-- no htorch!
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Yes indeed it does beat carrying two devices, but the fact that its a phone and not a laptop is what really bothers me about the size, although the TP isnt all that much smaller (well I just contradicted myself, didnt I ). But I do know what you mean about the Tilt being more comfortable, I also prefer phones that fit in my hand, thats why I hate such phones as the Motorola Razr, its just too dang skinny. Thats why I still favor my ETEN M600 over most 'normal' phones.
Maybe not having a D-pad is just one those things that you have to get used I guess, like you did with the Omnia, but Id still like to have a D-pad

Are you people under four feet? The Fuze feels nice in my hands. It's solid, it's built well, it's uniform in colour and design (especially with a black theme) and it's not flimsy in the slightest. I can feel it in my pocket too.
Now, I would like a larger screen, but everything else on the TP2 is not pretty looking. Also AT&T doesn't have 1 year plans.

thehyecircus said:
Are you people under four feet? The Fuze feels nice in my hands. It's solid, it's built well, it's uniform in colour and design (especially with a black theme) and it's not flimsy in the slightest. I can feel it in my pocket too.
Now, I would like a larger screen, but everything else on the TP2 is not pretty looking. Also AT&T doesn't have 1 year plans.
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In Holland we can choose between a 1 or 2 year contract, the difference is, with a 2 year you get it for free, with a 1 year you have pay a minimal amount... If in 2010 they come with a newer version with higher specs, then you have the choice to upgrade. I too feel that although the current TP is solid, compact etc. its a lot smaller than the kaiser/tilt and that did feel better in the hand. They can't please everyone but I do fine the design a lot better, but thats personal....

I was just looking at the TP2 on the HTC website, thinking that maybe or at least the processor speed was upgraded, but nothing. Not even the memory capacity. The only upgrade that I see is just the look of it, the "outside". So I guess I will agree on not getting one until they actually come with a better (not only looking), faster, bigger capacity and newer technology phone. Then I'll think about spending few hundred dollars on a new one.

@Sleuth
Sleuth255 said:
We may be looking at capacitive touch screens on these devices. That and the tilt feature on the TP2 will probably have me upgrading....
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Pardon the ignorance but, what do you mean by "capacitive" touchscreens?
I understand is a new tech, but what does it do?

DanQ said:
Pardon the ignorance but, what do you mean by "capacitive" touchscreens?
I understand is a new tech, but what does it do?
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Here you go, read this!
http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?threadid=23389

Tera Vs TP2 (Rhodium)

Hi All,
I went to the shop today looking for a new phone, originally it was to be the HD2, but the phone is just way too big for my liking.
I am now back to square one as I held back getting the Rhodium thinking the HD2 would be the one for me.
I have now see the Tera and was wondering if it is worth the wait, and if it is technically better. (I don't mind the smaller screen in comparison to the Rhodium)
Please could you guys advise me.
Cheers,
Jason

Cpomparative:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2128&id2=1751
I personally would not go for a screen smaller than 3.5" so I prefer Rhodium
Tera pros: 3.6mm, a slightly better processor, but other than that they are almost the same.
Rhodium for me

Get the TP2 or the HD2 depending on your keyb pref. See there respective sections for all the scoop!

i perfer tp2 since i am using video call and second camera is needed.

orb3000 said:
Cpomparative:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2128&id2=1751
I personally would not go for a screen smaller than 3.5" so I prefer Rhodium
Tera pros: 3.6mm, a slightly better processor, but other than that they are almost the same.
Rhodium for me
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cheers for that, its very useful
There is no front camera on the Tera? Hmmm, but I dont use 3G calls anyways.
The slightly better processor is the only thing that's keeping me waiting right now.
I also prefer that the Tera is smaller.
Do you think it will be noticeable.
Also do you think there will be a large price premium when it comes out? TP2 has dropped a lot in price now and is a good excuse to get one.

Glad to know it helped
Well all devices when first launched are high priced, then comes a new model and prices go down, that is the way this days...
And everyday faster the "old" devices go down, even if they don´t have a year
I´ll stay with Rhodium (I payed a fair price back in october) till something really really good and a great improvement then I´ll go for it!
Perhaps a Touch Pro 3 in 2011

Hey again,
I'm pretty much on the verge of buying a TP2 now. Bidding on eBay waiting for the right price.
Any last remarks about why I should wait for the Tera? (I'm bidding really low haha)
How superior is the HD2 compared to the TP2? Will you be able to run ROM's like the HD2 on the TP2?
Thanks!

Also check Marketplace, there are a couple of Rhodiums there in a fair price
As said before I would go for Rhodium, Tera is not for me really.
Leo is better in processor and size screen, have a look on pdadb.com to see a full specs comparative.
That will depend if you need a hardware keyboard or not
Good luck and let us know what you´ve got

It seems HTC has some competition!

well i wouldn't have believed it if i hadn't read myself but it seems that HTChas some competition and guess who it is........Nokia. yeah Nokia but here's thing what they have is really good this time its called "The Morph". absolutely futuristic.
http://yovia.com/blogs/gizmo/2010/03/09/nokia-is-definitely-thinking-of-the-future/

I'll believe it more if they showed the real thing instead of a drawing. And I'm guessing a technology like that would cost the same as a car. But I could be dead wrong.

Doesn't look like any competition to me...they have years to go.

That morph video has at least 4 years floating around
Nothing that we really see soon so HTC still the best for me, at least for now

i had someone argue with me the other day that samsung made better phones than HTC. i laughed....hard!!!! i hate samsung phones. they make good tv's though.

leemoss84 said:
i had someone argue with me the other day that samsung made better phones than HTC. i laughed....hard!!!! i hate samsung phones. they make good tv's though.
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you obviously never used the original Omnia then. A very solid, reliable bit of kit and it was easily better than any HTC phone at the time for my purposes. Sadly, the Omnia 2 has issues that prevented me buying it and instead I bought a HD2.

that morph video is ard for years. check youtube, u see along of posting in past years
its only a concept. there are others also from other brandings
htc is themselve are not concentrating on winmo device. android are here instead, samsung did a wonderful customization for winmo also and have move on to android too. soon, their own os beda will be out

Monty Burns said:
you obviously never used the original Omnia then. A very solid, reliable bit of kit and it was easily better than any HTC phone at the time for my purposes. Sadly, the Omnia 2 has issues that prevented me buying it and instead I bought a HD2.
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yes, i have used an omnia b4 and didnt like it at all. i like the omnia 2 way better than the first gen omnia though. their dumb phones especially suck, everyone ive owned or my friends owned were just a hot steaming pile of $#!t

kemberdog said:
absolutely futuristic.
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That's all it is a concept that may come in many years...? I imagine if we got to see concepts for plans in x amount of years from HTC we would drop our tongues even more

leemoss84 said:
i had someone argue with me the other day that samsung made better phones than HTC. i laughed....hard!!!! i hate samsung phones. they make good tv's though.
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Well, if you ask me, they did make better phones than HTC. Up until the announcement of the HD2; Samsung's phones just utterly bested HTC's offerings. Really, at a time when HTC was still rocking the Touch HD as the best phone in their arsenal, Samsung released the Omnia HD; the Omnia HD is a phone so badass that it still stands as one of the best phones today (it was released in May 2009).
Off the top of my head, there are only two phones I know of that I would say matches it (N900 and Droid), and there is only one phone that I can definitively say bests it: The HD2.

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Well, if you ask me, they did make better phones than HTC. Up until the announcement of the HD2; Samsung's phones just utterly bested HTC's offerings. Really, at a time when HTC was still rocking the Touch HD as the best phone in their arsenal, Samsung released the Omnia HD; the Omnia HD is a phone so badass that it still stands as one of the best phones today (it was released in May 2009).
Off the top of my head, there are only two phones I know of that I would say matches it (N900 and Droid), and there is only one phone that I can definitively say bests it: The HD2.
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if the omnias are so good then why do you have a fuze? imo samsung makes low qaulity phones except for the omnia 2 which i kinda like.

im guessing because it has a keyboard and the omnia 1 doesn't.

leemoss84 said:
if the omnias are so good then why do you have a fuze? imo samsung makes low qaulity phones except for the omnia 2 which i kinda like.
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im guessing because it has a keyboard and the omnia 1 doesn't.
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A keyboard is one of the reasons. Aside from that, the original i900 really isn't that much better than the Fuze. The i900 had a larger screen, better camera, and a more powerful CPU (with better drivers support), but it had less RAM, lower resolution, and lower battery life. The lack of a keyboard also made it a bit hard to swallow.
If nothing else, one of the primary reasons I own a Fuze today was because I managed to get it for cheap (much cheaper than it cost at the time anyway).
To get to the point, design-wise, the superiority of the two companies is debatable (personally, I actually like HTC's design better), but when it comes to specs, Samsung has pretty much been obliterating HTC for a good while. I'm not referring to the Omnia line either as Samsung put great specs in many of their phones. It is only recently that HTC managed to surpass Samsung at all and, mind you, the S8500 Wave (with its own 1Ghz Cortex, super AMOLED WVGA screen, and many other nice features) is going to be closing whatever gaps HTC managed to create in about a month.

[Q] Should I make the switch to Android?

Hi everyone!
As the title suggests, I'm thinking about making the switch to Android I'm currently at windows mobile, on a HD2. It's a great phone but I can't help but feel that WinMo just doesn't make such a great mobile OS.
Custom ROM's do improve the experience and all, but still, it's WinMo.. So, I thought "Okay, I'll sell my HD2 and buy myself a Desire". At this time of writing, someone is willing to pay € 250 (keep in mind that this phone is almost a year old and has some scratches on the side).
€ 250 is okay, but I'm aiming for € 300
But, now I'm getting second thoughts.. Should I wait to switch to android? Or should I keep the HD2? The Desire seems pretty solid and futureproof...
I really don't know anymore.. And since it involves quite a lot of money, I thought I could use someone else's take on this
So XDA, what do you think is best?

Wait for something better than the desire, and in the mean time, use the android rom for the hd2
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Yeah, that's why I'm having second thoughts There are a lot rumored phones which should out somewhere around the holidays I guess.. But, is it worth the wait? Because the rumored dual core cpu seems kinda overkill.. And 1.2 GHz cpu's don't really seem to make much difference to me.
I mean, 1GHz is already a lot of horse power for a phone :O
Edit: In the world of gadgets and technology, something new and better is released daily, I could keep on waiting for something better?

It depends what you want from your phone. I've had the desire since probably about April, and whilst it was already an amazing phone, I rooted it yesterday because I didn't want to wait around for froyo update. Now what was a great phone is a Stellar phone!
But that's just me. As others have said, HTC are bringing some new phones out but hardware wise they're not too dissimilar to turf desire. If you want either a 4+ inch screen an 8meg camera, or a slide out keyboard, then wait for the desire HD or the Desire Z.
If these are not essential, a desire will be future proof for a least a year yet id say. But hey I'm no.expert

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It depends what you want from your phone. I've had the desire since probably about April, and whilst it was already an amazing phone, I rooted it yesterday because I didn't want to wait around for froyo update. Now what was a great phone is a Stellar phone!
But that's just me. As others have said, HTC are bringing some new phones out but hardware wise they're not too dissimilar to turf desire. If you want either a 4+ inch screen an 8meg camera, or a slide out keyboard, then wait for the desire HD or the Desire Z.
If these are not essential, a desire will be future proof for a least a year yet id say. But hey I'm no.expert
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I was kinda thinking the same thing Although I'm hoping to get by a little longer with such a phone, so that's why I want to make the right decision this time. I mean, the HD2 feels like a mistake.. It was and still is, a quite expensive phone so yeah..
En pff, a 4" screen is nice but I don't know.. It's probably going to be the same resolution? And the design of the Desire HD looks less attractive compared to the one of the HD2 or the Desire. Well, that's just my opinion
and oh, do you have any remarks on your Desire? Something that could've been done better or..?

I'd definitely make the switch. With the help of a friend, I was recently able to put Android (2.2) on my Acer L2R Geeksphone. Since then, I've just been addicted to the phone (mind you, my Tilt2 has got super specs in almost every single aspect than the Acer L2R).
Everything that wasn't available for me with Wm is now on Android. My Tilt2 has just been laying on the floor since I got Android on this device. Now I'm looking to get a Captivate.

I've been with Windows Mobile since PocketPC 2002 on my Toshiba e740. I liked the OS because it was hackable. Swap out components, make edits, and new features.
What I didn't like is the sluggishness.
Android on my Nexus One is amazing. Here are a few thoughts that I've come across. The trackball is better then an optical pad, but don't buy anything without either one of those. You could get by without it but the trackball has really been useful in games and emulaters. I'm not sure how the optical pad would suffice. I had a Samsung Epix with an optical sensor and 1 swipe was 1 direction. So gaming is out right there. Selecting text is a pain but better then nothing.
The larger screens may seems nice, but the same resolution things will start to look blocky/pixelized. My friend has an AT&T Captivate (Galaxy S) and the screen looks good. It is a bit too big for me. The bigness of the screen make the phone very thin. Which is a good/bad thing. The Galaxy S is sweet but it lacks a trackball/sensor that is very handy.
The Desire is basically the same as a Nexus One. If I could trade my Trackball for a few physical buttons... I wouldn't. The phone is responsive and fast enough to use the onscreen controls. Being able to hit the green send button to quickly bring up the dialpad would very sweet vs having to launch the dialer from my homescreen. Honestly I don't miss a physical button though.
Life is a trade off though:
Nexus One
Trackball is the best of the best if you want to do any kind of gaming.
Trackball Notifications is a treat, presenting 255 programmable different colors for various notifications.
I think they got the FM radio working on the Nexus One.
Software updates are glorious.
You can make the Nexus one look like the Desire (which is sexy)
Desire:
Physical buttons make it easy to bring up the dialer from anywhere to make a call. I've noticed on Android the End Key doesn't really do anything beside hang up a call. I guess some programs could remap those keys for other uses.
Optical sensor is middle grade. Makes gaming basically useless unless it is all touch controls. Given the quirky multitouch issues of the screen in the Desire/Nexus one, that is also limiting.
I think the Desire is sexy
Galaxy S
I'm not too sure about it yet. I recommended my friend by one, and he did. He complains about the battery being very very short (half a day on light use).
The screen has a blue/green hue. Very noticable.
The screen is easily visible in direct sunlight. Which is awesome.
No trackball/sensor. Ouch.
Hummingbird processor/GPU
Screen has a great multitouch screen. So multitouch gaming is easily possible.
Phone is so THIN that you could probably afford a thicker longer battery to make it last throughout the day.
My opinion... wait. If you want one now the Nexus will start to get Gingerbread probably starting in October (almost a month). Maybe try to find one second hand or cheap. Stay out of contract because some better phones with better processors will start coming out very soon.

The wait for a new phone like desire hd or desire z is not to long and will be a big difference. But no one would blame you if you jumped the gun, especially if you like the design better and feel 1 ghz is enough.

Yeah, the Nexus One has crossed my mind already.. but it's a bit more expensive than the Desire and it's kinda hard to order one and get it shipped right here to Belgium.
I don't know why, but Google doesn't ship to Belgium. It did to the Netherlands but, Google has stopped shipping Nexus' and right now, I don't find a webshop which has cheap shipping or even the Nexus One.
And concerning the Desire HD/Z, I don't think there'll be much difference, the Z will have a physical keyboard and the HD will have a huge screen, just like de HD2 does. But, I noticed that with the HD2, holding the phone can be problematic sometimes. Operating the device with one hand can be kinda tricky, you could easily drop the phone that way..And oh, the Desire HD is not likely to have a trackbaal/sensor And just like player911 says, it's something which is very handy! Most of the time when I have a Android device in my hand, I use the trackball/sensor to switch screens etc.
Code:
http://htcpedia.com/news/995.html
(rumored spec's of the HTC HD, although I guess most of you already knew that )
Are there any more rumored Android devices? :O

One of the only things I would have improved on the desire would have been speed of the OS as it ran slightly slow at times. However now that I've upgraded to froyo I'm struggling to think of anything. The minor gripes I had before are mostly ironed out in froyo.
The biggest negative for The desire is the battery life, but this can be remedied in a # of different ways. I have a spare battery for instance. Also, froyo supposedly improves battery but I haven't run any tests personally.
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I'd wait for better and more powerful android devices as i can't see much difference or generation gap between the HD2 and Desire/Captivate etc.. HD2 is still a powerhouse device and it has great android rom ports. In addition, it looks like WM7 port will be available for HD2,too. So hd2 is also very flexible between different platforms.
Sems.

narcoustic said:
One of the only things I would have improved on the desire would have been speed of the OS as it ran slightly slow at times. However now that I've upgraded to froyo I'm struggling to think of anything. The minor gripes I had before are mostly ironed out in froyo.
The biggest negative for The desire is the battery life, but this can be remedied in a # of different ways. I have a spare battery for instance. Also, froyo supposedly improves battery but I haven't run any tests personally.
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Hmm, I've read about the battery life.. Is it really that bad? I mean, do you have troubles to get through the day with one charge?
Semseddin said:
I'd wait for better and more powerful android devices as i can't see much difference or generation gap between the HD2 and Desire/Captivate etc.. HD2 is still a powerhouse device and it has great android rom ports. In addition, it looks like WM7 port will be available for HD2,too. So hd2 is also very flexible between different platforms.
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Good point. But the Android ports for the HD2 are nothing close to the real deal, it seems. No? And personally, I don't like WP7 at all.. Way to apple-ish for me. I want a phone which lets me do whatever I want to do with it. That's something which is not going to be possible with WP7 - unless it gets hacked, and it probably will, but still, I don't like it

Battery on desire will get you through about a day on a single charge (pre froyo) but its not drastically worse than other smart phones I don't think. I always charge my phone everyday anyway.
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I wouldn´t think on make the switch
My Leo is capable of having the best of both OS and still has same or even better specs than "newer" devices.
And now that WP7 is just around the corner, I´ll stay with WM/WP!

After owning an HD2 you won't to go back to anything with a smaller screen, i did and hated it, so bought a streak! So much better than the HTC in every department

Personally, I think 4" is the biggest screen size I find comfy. Anything bigger is a bit of a risk in the hand.
Ive had the Nexus one and the desire. ALthough near identical, I much appreciate the hard buttons as opposed t o the softkeys on the Nexus.
The Nexus Trackball acts funny after a few months of use (or did in my case) and the optical joystick on the desire randomly breaks with most CM based Roms. so
Btw HTC Sense has a pretty good text selection feature making it easy to deal w/o any sort of joystick/trackball.
I'd wait and get the next range of HTC phones or a samsung galaxy phone. Both will have huge android dev (galaxy coz they simply sold so many!) and HTC because the community has been built around HTC Devices.
The two biggest things on my Desire wish list include:
- better GPU not that I really play games , but hey! I would if I could!
- Multi touch issue (you wont notice it in the browser) but a lot of games are soooo frustrating because of the multi-touch bug
THe Nexus one had the following issues:
Power button has a mind of its own
hard to press soft keys
Bought a Galaxy S to review so will let you know what thats like. Im sure it'll have its quirks.
Hope this helped
Oz