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Advice sought... my VIII is now GSM only

hi -
the problems: since flashing 2 weeks ago my vario III only works for voice and data in gsm only mode - with 3G enabled i generally can't make or receive a call or connect to data, but the device . Everything works when i switch to GSM only...
The complications/wierdness: straight after flashing a new rom or radio i have sometimes been able to get the device to connect to 3G or make a call - but this usually only last for one session or so.
What i've done: i've installed just about every combination of ROM and Radio i can find - including all of the 6.1 radios with Dutty's 6.1, the "official" vodafone 6.1 rom, alex's, schaps, and i've tried going back to 6.0 roms and the 1.27.12.32 and .11 radios but still the same
what is the verdict? bricked? or am i missing something....
<crosses fingers>

wilbur said:
hi -
the problems: since flashing 2 weeks ago my vario III only works for voice and data in gsm only mode - with 3G enabled i generally can't make or receive a call or connect to data, but the device . Everything works when i switch to GSM only...
The complications/wierdness: straight after flashing a new rom or radio i have sometimes been able to get the device to connect to 3G or make a call - but this usually only last for one session or so.
What i've done: i've installed just about every combination of ROM and Radio i can find - including all of the 6.1 radios with Dutty's 6.1, the "official" vodafone 6.1 rom, alex's, schaps, and i've tried going back to 6.0 roms and the 1.27.12.32 and .11 radios but still the same
what is the verdict? bricked? or am i missing something....
<crosses fingers>
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I don't think it's bricked.. if it was bricked your device wouldn't even turn on.
Did you hard reset after each flash?
Was it working before your original flash?

answers to both: yes
- working fine before i flashed it
- I've been obeying Dutty's rebooting advice - how could I ignore instruction given in bold AND capitals?

I'm having the same problems. Thinking of putting origional ROM with radio back on and removing hardspl and returning under warrenty but cant find origional splash screen anywhere! Help would be appreciated

had the same problem with my tilt...changed sim card ...different roms ...radios ...basically everthing i could do....but in the end called at&t and they sent me a replacement...goodluck

I had a similiar situation but with my GPS.
The Tilt I bought just 1 month ago was a GPS Champ, always acquired a lock quick. I had flashed XDA-Live v1.5 right over the at&t 1.62 Rom (after HardSPL of course).
Then I used th enew SIM/CID Unlocker (with the hacked Polaris Radio) and of course flashed back to the at&t Radio (from the leaked at&t 1.60 Rom).
Since then I had a coupel of times where the GPS locked-up and required a soft reset.
So yesterday I flashed a WM6.1 Rom and a Niki Radio as I've seen a lot of user report excellent results.
It made my GPS useless. I quickly reflashed XDA Live v1.5 (with the Radio from the at&t 1.60 Rom) but my GPS still seemed lost.
Ironically today is day #29 of the 30 on this Tilt so last night I removed HardSPL and flashed the Official at&t 1.62 Released Rom using the Official exe and everything figuring I'd returnt he unit today.
Wouldn't you know it, I tested the GPS and even on the untouched at&t Rom it was working better than it had ever worked before!
Now I know that the Radio in at&t 1.60, 1.61 & 1.62 are *supposed* to be the exact same but I can say that the over from at&t 1.62 fixed a problem that the 1.60 Rom's radio couldn't. Yes, I do a hard reset after each flash already.
Heck when my daughters return from Disney I'm going to flash the 1.62 version fo the at&t Radio onto my oldest's Kaiser and see if it improved her GPS also.

seems like everyone who replied has a tilt not a VIII. Are you sure your settings are correct for your network? that would be my first guess at this point input them manually and dont use the connection wizard app as sometimes it doesnt work right. also check your phone settings make sure its set to AUTO or UTMS only if all else falls force it into 3G mode using the Band settings post your results back please

martyotaku said:
had the same problem with my tilt...changed sim card ...different roms ...radios ...basically everthing i could do....but in the end called at&t and they sent me a replacement...goodluck
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hey I am having a similar problem at my house when i first got my tilt i have a very strong 3G signal here. That tilt messed up sent it in and this new one that i got worked just fine till i flashed a new rom on it now it wont pick up 3G unless i go somewhere else and come back to my apt. And yes i HardSPL'ed it and hard reset after flashing. I even went back to stock tilt rom and that didn't work. I have tried all the radio's on this forum from stock to the new imported NIKI radio's nothing has brought it back. When I go get the 3G signal elsewhere and comeback god forbid i have to soft reset because there goes 3G out the window and locked to edge. Should i return to AT&T for an exchange or is there a fix i'm not finding?

austinsnyc said:
seems like everyone who replied has a tilt not a VIII. Are you sure your settings are correct for your network? that would be my first guess at this point input them manually and dont use the connection wizard app as sometimes it doesnt work right. also check your phone settings make sure its set to AUTO or UTMS only if all else falls force it into 3G mode using the Band settings post your results back please
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The Tilt Roms by default don't allow manual band selection.
Bad Data settings wouldn't cause poor reception just inability to connect (regardless of 3G or Edge/Gprs) for data sessions.
Based on my experience I would say first test is to do the work and reset your phone to the latest shipped Carrier Rom for your Carrier and see if your problems persist.
When I was having my GPS issues I also had a few wierd Call issues like calls not disconnecting (I had to toggle the phone radio to actually end the call).

wilbur said:
hi -
the problems: since flashing 2 weeks ago my vario III only works for voice and data in gsm only mode - with 3G enabled i generally can't make or receive a call or connect to data, but the device . Everything works when i switch to GSM only...
<crosses fingers>
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I had the same issue with a t-mobile(UK) viii. The issue appeared after a while using the phone before I'd got into flashing different ROMS. In the end, i had the unit swapped out and the problems went away and have not returned. You can assume its a hardware issue. I went through the is it your SIM, is it this... is it that... after explaining that basically i was right next to a 3G transceiver in a big city.
Like I mentioned, this was a fault which developed after two months of no issues.
Old hardware version (looking under battery cover):
DATE:061107(TB02)/EU
New phone:
date:090807(RB01)/EU

I have had the same issue. I have returned the phone today and exchanged on my insurance. the new phone works fine.

thanks for all the feedback - shame there isn't a fix ..
austinsnyc: thanks for your help...
- i was using the connection wizard (difference i've noticed was that it includes a proxy server which i don't when i set up manually) so i created a new connection manually
- i've changed to 3G-only and i got "no service" (though i have previously got it to work)
- i put it on auto, it registered 2G then showed 3G signal in the taskbar. Tried to connect to my manually created connection - no joy: "cannot connect for an unknown reason etc".... then i got "no signal" for about 30 seconds, then full bars of gsm, then shows 3G again....
changed back to gsm only - works fine.
I'm not exactly sure t-mobile are going to take it back!... i'll have to hunt down the original t-mobile uk rom first....

got my new tilt in yesterday and it works totally fine like i thought in my apt. If you could wilbur i would definitely get a new one i think its the phone itself.

lol so i checked to see if switching off the 3g on my new kaiser then switching back would cause the same problem and it sure did so now im stuck with edge in my damn apt. again. I wonder if these new kaiser's they're shipping out are different than the old ones, when i first bought mine at launch oct.5, 07 i could switch back and forth between 3g. Now with 3 new tilts i have gotten i cant do it anymore this blows Damn i should have never given that first one away damn

so annoying...
i upgraded to the latest Dutty Rom (the 6.1 hybrid) - sure enough, straight away after flashing i was able to use 3G to make and receive calls, and to make a data call (but it was really slow)... then, within 30 minutes, i was back to the old phone: cannot connect a 3G call and no connection to data... so annoying - i'd almost prefer it didn't work at all than tempt me with the prospect that one day i'll find a rom that works...
anyway - I'm going to need to replace it - anyone know which rom/radio combo i'd need to flash to convince the guys at T-Mobile to take my VIII back? and btw - does anyone have any experience of trying to return handsets covered in scratches?

can anyone tell me if these problems are linked to Flashing ROMS? Since i had my last Vario 3 replaced ive been apprehensive about flashing if this is what broke the last one but i really want to flash it again.

When on 3G it's impossible to make/receive phone calls

Hello, I've searched through the forum but I wasn't able to find a similar problem.
When my Polaris is connected to 3G it's impossible to:
_make/receive phone calls
_send/receive SMS
I've tried with several SIM cards, even with one that I use on 3G every day on another phone. No way to make my Polaris work.
The only way to phone is to force it to connect to GSM (G icon), doing this I can phone and send sms normally. It also works when connected to Edge (E icon).
I have an original italian ROM:
R 1.58.21.23
G 25.65.30.04H
D 1.25.00.00
Same problem is being reported by other 3 italian users, we all have the same R 1.58.21.23.
Any of you have any idea on how to fix the problem?
Do you think that flashing Murata radio rom could help?
Many thanks in advance. I don't know what to do.

same problen in spain
I have the same problem in South of Spain. In 2G (GSM) yes, but in 3G is impossible today. Anybody else?

I have the same Radio, Protocol version... And works fine. 2 out, 1 to go, I'd say there's a problem whith the original ITA ROM...
Did you try a Hard Reset to fix it? If you did was the fix only temporary? If so, there are two options...
warranty
Cooked ROM

Thanks for the answers!
Yes unfortunately even after hard-reset it doesn't work.
Apparently there are different 1.58.21.23 Radios according to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2171454#post2171454
I was wondering if it's worth to try the "Murata 1.58.21.23 Radio" which seems to be an official HTC Radio issued for russian customers and which seems to solve reception problems.
I could try it and if it doesn't work I could go back to the original 1.58 and original SPL.
I'm a little scared to install a cooked ROM instead, I bought the device 1 month ago, I'm still in warranty.
Thanks

I had the same problem and found only one solution: warranty replacement
HTC replaced my Cruise's motherboard and now it is working like a charme.
I'm living in Rome, Italy and they took 2 weeks for replacement.
Good luck!

At this point I'll send the device back to HTC for warranty replacement, I'll call them tomorrow. Thanks Cloudlord!
Ciao

Search the other forums (e.g. Kaiser/TyTN II) for the 3G problem. I had it with a Kaiser and they also told me that a motherboard replacement was needed. I changed the unit to a TC which did not have the problem.
The problem seems more than common...

Radio failed to receive GPRS or EDGE

Since some days the MDA receive only Data from HSDPA or 3G,
If i go to some area with edge or GSM the signal strength is going to zero.
It is not possible to connect to provider network since i go back to UMTS area.
is there any hardware defect or it is possible with special software enable edge or GSM functions.
I flashed many different radios and WM6.1 roms without any better result.
What can i do?
Radio1.71.09.01
WM6.1 PDAVIET Rom 6.1

Mosquito said:
Since some days the MDA receive only Data from HSDPA or 3G,
If i go to some area with edge or GSM the signal strength is going to zero.
It is not possible to connect to provider network since i go back to UMTS area.
is there any hardware defect or it is possible with special software enable edge or GSM functions.
I flashed many different radios and WM6.1 roms without any better result.
What can i do?
Radio1.71.09.01
WM6.1 PDAVIET Rom 6.1
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i have only had problems with the 1.71 radio aka radio from hell...... have you tried the radio from the true 6.1 rom i had the one official att tilt 6.1 and it worked like a charm i'm reverting now

i have tested many different roms but the same effect ever.
Only in UMTS area is the connection possible all other areas no signal.
at the beginning from the error:
after enter the pin the MDA locked in provider network
the mda makes softreset every time.
every login makes softreset
I reflash the complete rom and radio.
No softreset anymore but no signal no login to provider network.
Thats no problem if i had the shipped original software from t-mobile
But i can´t find what not exist´s
so with hardspl and false software i can´t send with warranty to servicepoint

joel2009 said:
i have only had problems with the 1.71 radio aka radio from hell...... have you tried the radio from the true 6.1 rom i had the one official att tilt 6.1 and it worked like a charm i'm reverting now
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point of fact, the "radio from hell" was radio 1.65.17.10, not the new emo radio.

This was definately not needy of its own thread as there is a great Radio sticky where u could have easily brought about ur question and more than likely recieved positive feedback so there is ur help and with a little reading u will see that the answer to ur problem can only be "try different radios and roms" hard reset after a flash and soft reset after a radio install" kinda bland but radios are just one of those things no exact answers as performance varies for everyone(rom device network location)

GSM radio signal problem

Hi all,
I have a strange problem with my Polaris - when I drive my car and talk over the phone, it looses coverage and the conversation is being dropped. I think this happens when it changes the cells from 3G to 2G.
I used to have the problem with the original Windows Mobile and now also with WM 6.1 - the official ROM from HTC.
ROM version: 3.13.405.0 WWE
ROM date: 08/21/08
Radio version: 1.59.42.15
Protocol version: 25.85.30.07H
I have never tried to flash it with a "cooked" ROM. Do you think some of the ROM releases here will fix this issue?
I just want the problem fixed, so I will be thankful for every suggestion on how to do this!
Thank you in advance!
Regards!

Hmmm.... I guess it could be hardware error.
I have same ROM and I don't have such issue. My Polaris is also almost constantly switching 2G/3G (regarding changing coverage).

Bodisson said:
Hmmm.... I guess it could be hardware error.
I have same ROM and I don't have such issue. My Polaris is also almost constantly switching 2G/3G (regarding changing coverage).
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I am sure about that, Bodisson! I have a friend that has no problem with it also.
Maybe it is a hardware issue but I have no idea what to do in order to fix the problem. I bought the phone from eBay and do not have a valid warranty, so I do not know what are my options now, except to try changing different ROMs and see if I find a "magical" one that fixes the problem...
Bodisson, thank you for your response!
Any other suggestions?!

I have similar problem. Got my polaris a week ago (new) and had few droped calls when i'm in my bedroom.
Rom version 1.28.405.3WWE
Radio 1.58.25.14
Phone indicated bad signal reception (2 bars), but when it loses 3g coverage, it gets excellent reception (4 bars). So i changed phone settings and in the band tab choose GSM (i use GSM anyway) instead of Auto for my network type. No dropped calls since then (hope it stays that way ).
I'm new to the game to, but if this doesn't work for you or you need 3g, i guess you could try updating your radio. This could solve your problem (or worsen it, depends on the version people say )
Hope i helped. Ivan

@ Ivan: Is your ROM WM 6.0?
Because original poster and me have WM 6.1. And stuff happening to you happened to me while I was on WM 6.0.
Altough, I had to send my Polaris to service due to erratic BT and GPS behaviour. It resulted by changed motherboard...

Yes, my rom is 6.0. The solution i gave fixed the same problem for me on 6.0 so i figured he can try it...

I have had the problem using 6.0 also...
I am unable to try the suggested from ivanx method at the moment but as soon as I can, I will post the results here.
Unfortunately, as I said, my warranty is not valid in my country (Bulgaria), so the phone cannot go to an official service (I do not trust any other service here...).
Thank you guys!

Palm Treo 500 - Need a working radio ROM

Hello,
I'm actually using a Palm Treo 500 with a faulty radio ROM, which is hanging after few hours if 3G network is activated. As soon as I force it on the GSM network only, it becomes very stable. But for a 3G smartphone ... it's a little bit anoying :-(
I've flashed it with WM 6.1 Rose ROM from Caramba_sda. This ROM is very fast but as it doesn't include a Radio ROM, it has not solved this specific problem. The phone still hangs after few hours on the 3G network.
Is anybody able to provide a fully working radio ROM for the Treo 500 ?
Thanks in advance.