hi -
the problems: since flashing 2 weeks ago my vario III only works for voice and data in gsm only mode - with 3G enabled i generally can't make or receive a call or connect to data, but the device . Everything works when i switch to GSM only...
The complications/wierdness: straight after flashing a new rom or radio i have sometimes been able to get the device to connect to 3G or make a call - but this usually only last for one session or so.
What i've done: i've installed just about every combination of ROM and Radio i can find - including all of the 6.1 radios with Dutty's 6.1, the "official" vodafone 6.1 rom, alex's, schaps, and i've tried going back to 6.0 roms and the 1.27.12.32 and .11 radios but still the same
what is the verdict? bricked? or am i missing something....
<crosses fingers>
wilbur said:
hi -
the problems: since flashing 2 weeks ago my vario III only works for voice and data in gsm only mode - with 3G enabled i generally can't make or receive a call or connect to data, but the device . Everything works when i switch to GSM only...
The complications/wierdness: straight after flashing a new rom or radio i have sometimes been able to get the device to connect to 3G or make a call - but this usually only last for one session or so.
What i've done: i've installed just about every combination of ROM and Radio i can find - including all of the 6.1 radios with Dutty's 6.1, the "official" vodafone 6.1 rom, alex's, schaps, and i've tried going back to 6.0 roms and the 1.27.12.32 and .11 radios but still the same
what is the verdict? bricked? or am i missing something....
<crosses fingers>
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I don't think it's bricked.. if it was bricked your device wouldn't even turn on.
Did you hard reset after each flash?
Was it working before your original flash?
answers to both: yes
- working fine before i flashed it
- I've been obeying Dutty's rebooting advice - how could I ignore instruction given in bold AND capitals?
I'm having the same problems. Thinking of putting origional ROM with radio back on and removing hardspl and returning under warrenty but cant find origional splash screen anywhere! Help would be appreciated
had the same problem with my tilt...changed sim card ...different roms ...radios ...basically everthing i could do....but in the end called at&t and they sent me a replacement...goodluck
I had a similiar situation but with my GPS.
The Tilt I bought just 1 month ago was a GPS Champ, always acquired a lock quick. I had flashed XDA-Live v1.5 right over the at&t 1.62 Rom (after HardSPL of course).
Then I used th enew SIM/CID Unlocker (with the hacked Polaris Radio) and of course flashed back to the at&t Radio (from the leaked at&t 1.60 Rom).
Since then I had a coupel of times where the GPS locked-up and required a soft reset.
So yesterday I flashed a WM6.1 Rom and a Niki Radio as I've seen a lot of user report excellent results.
It made my GPS useless. I quickly reflashed XDA Live v1.5 (with the Radio from the at&t 1.60 Rom) but my GPS still seemed lost.
Ironically today is day #29 of the 30 on this Tilt so last night I removed HardSPL and flashed the Official at&t 1.62 Released Rom using the Official exe and everything figuring I'd returnt he unit today.
Wouldn't you know it, I tested the GPS and even on the untouched at&t Rom it was working better than it had ever worked before!
Now I know that the Radio in at&t 1.60, 1.61 & 1.62 are *supposed* to be the exact same but I can say that the over from at&t 1.62 fixed a problem that the 1.60 Rom's radio couldn't. Yes, I do a hard reset after each flash already.
Heck when my daughters return from Disney I'm going to flash the 1.62 version fo the at&t Radio onto my oldest's Kaiser and see if it improved her GPS also.
seems like everyone who replied has a tilt not a VIII. Are you sure your settings are correct for your network? that would be my first guess at this point input them manually and dont use the connection wizard app as sometimes it doesnt work right. also check your phone settings make sure its set to AUTO or UTMS only if all else falls force it into 3G mode using the Band settings post your results back please
martyotaku said:
had the same problem with my tilt...changed sim card ...different roms ...radios ...basically everthing i could do....but in the end called at&t and they sent me a replacement...goodluck
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hey I am having a similar problem at my house when i first got my tilt i have a very strong 3G signal here. That tilt messed up sent it in and this new one that i got worked just fine till i flashed a new rom on it now it wont pick up 3G unless i go somewhere else and come back to my apt. And yes i HardSPL'ed it and hard reset after flashing. I even went back to stock tilt rom and that didn't work. I have tried all the radio's on this forum from stock to the new imported NIKI radio's nothing has brought it back. When I go get the 3G signal elsewhere and comeback god forbid i have to soft reset because there goes 3G out the window and locked to edge. Should i return to AT&T for an exchange or is there a fix i'm not finding?
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seems like everyone who replied has a tilt not a VIII. Are you sure your settings are correct for your network? that would be my first guess at this point input them manually and dont use the connection wizard app as sometimes it doesnt work right. also check your phone settings make sure its set to AUTO or UTMS only if all else falls force it into 3G mode using the Band settings post your results back please
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The Tilt Roms by default don't allow manual band selection.
Bad Data settings wouldn't cause poor reception just inability to connect (regardless of 3G or Edge/Gprs) for data sessions.
Based on my experience I would say first test is to do the work and reset your phone to the latest shipped Carrier Rom for your Carrier and see if your problems persist.
When I was having my GPS issues I also had a few wierd Call issues like calls not disconnecting (I had to toggle the phone radio to actually end the call).
wilbur said:
hi -
the problems: since flashing 2 weeks ago my vario III only works for voice and data in gsm only mode - with 3G enabled i generally can't make or receive a call or connect to data, but the device . Everything works when i switch to GSM only...
<crosses fingers>
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I had the same issue with a t-mobile(UK) viii. The issue appeared after a while using the phone before I'd got into flashing different ROMS. In the end, i had the unit swapped out and the problems went away and have not returned. You can assume its a hardware issue. I went through the is it your SIM, is it this... is it that... after explaining that basically i was right next to a 3G transceiver in a big city.
Like I mentioned, this was a fault which developed after two months of no issues.
Old hardware version (looking under battery cover):
DATE:061107(TB02)/EU
New phone:
date:090807(RB01)/EU
I have had the same issue. I have returned the phone today and exchanged on my insurance. the new phone works fine.
thanks for all the feedback - shame there isn't a fix ..
austinsnyc: thanks for your help...
- i was using the connection wizard (difference i've noticed was that it includes a proxy server which i don't when i set up manually) so i created a new connection manually
- i've changed to 3G-only and i got "no service" (though i have previously got it to work)
- i put it on auto, it registered 2G then showed 3G signal in the taskbar. Tried to connect to my manually created connection - no joy: "cannot connect for an unknown reason etc".... then i got "no signal" for about 30 seconds, then full bars of gsm, then shows 3G again....
changed back to gsm only - works fine.
I'm not exactly sure t-mobile are going to take it back!... i'll have to hunt down the original t-mobile uk rom first....
got my new tilt in yesterday and it works totally fine like i thought in my apt. If you could wilbur i would definitely get a new one i think its the phone itself.
lol so i checked to see if switching off the 3g on my new kaiser then switching back would cause the same problem and it sure did so now im stuck with edge in my damn apt. again. I wonder if these new kaiser's they're shipping out are different than the old ones, when i first bought mine at launch oct.5, 07 i could switch back and forth between 3g. Now with 3 new tilts i have gotten i cant do it anymore this blows Damn i should have never given that first one away damn
so annoying...
i upgraded to the latest Dutty Rom (the 6.1 hybrid) - sure enough, straight away after flashing i was able to use 3G to make and receive calls, and to make a data call (but it was really slow)... then, within 30 minutes, i was back to the old phone: cannot connect a 3G call and no connection to data... so annoying - i'd almost prefer it didn't work at all than tempt me with the prospect that one day i'll find a rom that works...
anyway - I'm going to need to replace it - anyone know which rom/radio combo i'd need to flash to convince the guys at T-Mobile to take my VIII back? and btw - does anyone have any experience of trying to return handsets covered in scratches?
can anyone tell me if these problems are linked to Flashing ROMS? Since i had my last Vario 3 replaced ive been apprehensive about flashing if this is what broke the last one but i really want to flash it again.
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Hi I need a little help. I just bought a new HTC Cruise and I cannot make or receive calls on ATT Edge network. I have a band new sim card from the local ATT store that works just fine on my old cell phone. I used the connection wizard when first booting the device and it saw the ATT network and auto configured the phone. It told me i had voice mail. I tried to make several calls and all i got after 10 or so seconds was 3 quick beeps and a disconnect. I rebooted the machine and now it will not even connect to the ATT network. Any suggestions ?
Thanks
Tried a hard reset?
yep tried hard reset.
update:
For anyone else who has had the same problem. My resolution came when I tried many different ROM versions and Radio versions before i came to a set that finally worked with AT&T EDGE netowrk in the USA, NYC area.
You need to make sure that any cooked ROM version is based on a 19214.1.0.4
I used udk Vega R3. Rom based on an AT&T ROM.
and MOST IMPORTANT!
You need to use a "murata" radio 1.58.21.23 NOT JUST ANY 1.58.21.23 ! they do not work well with EDGE networks.
My reception is incredible now.
Hi guys, first post on the forums... so be a little patient, I hope I am in the right place.
I bought a used att Tilt last night and it came with windows mobile 6.1 already on it. I threw my sim card in there and it kept dropping signal. it would have signal for one minute and then lose it for a minute and then get it back. anyways I figured it was a botched install or something so I went to HTC's website and flashed the 6.1 update they have there.
RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_1.62.502.0
now it runs a lot faster and except it wont allow me to call out/connect to the internet or anything.
I do have 4 bars and it says I am connected to the ATT network but something isn't right.
if you guys could help me out that would be great but I am a little new to this so bear with me.
Does your SIM still work in your old phone? and can you receive calls(you only stated you can't call out)
does the signal keep popping in and out and the radio signal strength icon (where the bars usually are) have an exclamation mark when you have no signal?
if that is the case, i dont know the fix, but ive had two devices do the same thing. both would exhibit the same behavior with stock 6.1/6.0/many customs and many radio versions, spl 3.28/29/56 and 1.0, and returning them to stock. i still have one of them and was going to return it for service. i thought i might have been the evil radio problem, but it took every flash i threw at it and still had the same problem.
this is all with my sim that works in my two current kaisers/moto q/bj2/bb 8310 etc...
havent been able to figure it out...
When you go into BootLoader (Hold Power and Camera buttons and use stylus to push reset button) what does it say?
have you tried fashing a new radio?
rkub said:
have you tried fashing a new radio?
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I was thinking about it but I can't figure out how do to it without using a minisd card or whatever.
ndn715 said:
does the signal keep popping in and out and the radio signal strength icon (where the bars usually are) have an exclamation mark when you have no signal?
if that is the case, i dont know the fix, but ive had two devices do the same thing. both would exhibit the same behavior with stock 6.1/6.0/many customs and many radio versions, spl 3.28/29/56 and 1.0, and returning them to stock. i still have one of them and was going to return it for service. i thought i might have been the evil radio problem, but it took every flash i threw at it and still had the same problem.
this is all with my sim that works in my two current kaisers/moto q/bj2/bb 8310 etc...
havent been able to figure it out...
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sounds like the same issues although I haven't tried diff radios...
liquidfork said:
Does your SIM still work in your old phone? and can you receive calls(you only stated you can't call out)
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yeah sim works great on the old phone, no problems at all.
I have been experimenting with various kaiser radios recently. I have had good success with almost every radio I try BUT about every 45 minutes I will no longer be able to send/receive text messages, make or receive phone calls... In order to re-establish connectivity I must pull the battery, but it back in. power the phone back up, I will be told I have no service. Then I must once again pull the battery and try again. Usually on the second try I will get a signal. At that point its anything but reliable, it will drop connectivity, but still report a signal anywhere form 5-30 minutes after.
Currently Im running the official 3.34.721.2 WWE rom, 1.65.21.18 radio, and SPL-1.0.OliPof. I have a kaiser 130, unbranded, and my carrier is AT&T.
The issue existed with pdacorner v18, and every 1.7x.xx.xx I tried.
What am I missing?
My first guess would be your SPL, it's hella old. Try upgrading that to one from here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420683
3.29 is most recommended one for newer roms
ok, flashed 3.29 hard2, i will have a status report in 30 (ish) minutes
Ok I tested the SIM in another phone, just for quality control. I no longer even get a signal. I tried both the 1.65.21.18 and the 1.71.09.01 radios. I also hard reset just for good measure for both radios. is there some kind of master-reset for the radio? i am going to leave the battery out for the rest of the evening.
After leaving the kaiser with the battery out for 6 hours, I still have the same issues. It plain doesn't make sense. Does anyone have any ideas?
reflash the stock at&t wm6.0 rom let it go threw its set up and all, then reflash the stock att 6.1 rom! i had similar issue with my phone at one time and just reflashing att 6.1 didnt fix it, had to do att6.0 then att6.1 then i was back up and running
Ok, I flashed the oldest wm6 wwe rom I could find. The problem did not get any better, I can no longer use wifi. What is the cause of this nonsense!!
similar problem here, but I had not updated the phone at all at this point. This week I've now tried AT&Ts official 6.1, HTC 3.34.721.2 with radio 1.70.19.09, nothing works.
Where about in the country are you guys located? Also, we should take this discussion to the radio thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Please answer these for us:
Location!!!! Be specific, ie Cedar Rapids, Iowa.
Also, what is the exact current state of your phone? ROM info, Radio info, Hard SPL info.
As well, what phone were you using previous to the Tilt, or is it a problem that just surfaced? I know that if you don't have an AT&T 3G SIM card, it will have major issues if you try to use it with a 3G phone.
the0ne.john said:
Ok, I flashed the oldest wm6 wwe rom I could find. The problem did not get any better, I can no longer use wifi. What is the cause of this nonsense!!
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Sell your Tilt and but a Tracfone. J/K
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I'm having the same issues as the OP. I'm in Dallas, TX and I've tried different radios on several ROMs.
Currently I'm using radio 1.65.24.36. I've tried 1.71.09.01 and 1.65.16.25 also.
I'm attempting to flash back to an ATT OEM ROM, but judging from the OPs posts it seems like it might be a waste of time. My sim card is 3G and the phone was purchased in November. I might try getting the sim replaced and see what that does.
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I'm having the same issues as the OP. I'm in Dallas, TX
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It is a known problem with AT&T 3G services in cebteral Texas... it is a bit of an insider's secret. There is an excellent thread on www.phonescoop.com where AT&T emoyees discuss the matter. It is also prevalent in other areas of the country, and is a result of the switching boards for the 3G service not talking with one another properly.
Finding the right radio does make a difference, but it wil not be miraculous in it's improvement. I will post a link to the thread when i get a chance tomorrow afternoon, but if you go to phonescoop on your own, do a search of the forum for AT&T centeral texas and itshould bring it up in the first couple of results.
Here is the direct link for the thread talking about this:
http://www.phonescoop.com/carriers/forum.php?fm=m&ff=4&fi=2015964
Anyone having issues with network auto roaming switching on WM 6.5. I have recently installed one of the Kaiser Roms v21232.5.0.1 by "Chinhe"; Everything works great except the auto roaming feature. By that I mean that usually in areas where T-mobile (USA) don't have coverage my phone used to switch to ATT, but not any more. I have all the network settings to Automatic. Personally in my case I have to manually go to phone settings and switch to ATT as a roaming provider. Is there something you guys can suggest I should do.
Anyone else having same problems?
Appreciate your time. Thank you
Try another radio. Maybe that helps. Please check the ultimate radio thread for more info.
Cheers
Hmmm did your network change anything? I know I had chinhe before, and the place where i work there is not signals in buildings, and it was roaming! But i downloaded data and stuff even with that ROM!
My Radio Rom was at 1.71 by Emo and may be that was causing the problem. Chinhe recommends version 1.70.19.09. I have recently updated my phone but I have not got a chance to fully test it.
I will post some additional comments later on. Thanks for your prompt replies.
Radio
I had almost the reverse issue on a WM6.5 ROM. My provider is T-mobile USA and it would rollover to AT&T too often. Then would have trouble "rolling" back to the T-mobile network. (leaving me unable to make or take calls for 5 minutes or so as it connected and disconnected) It was so bothersome that I switched it to manual network connectivity. While the problem was limited to when coverage was weak(one or two bars) it had never happened on previous ROMs. I've been using the EmO 1.71.09.01 for probably a year now on various ROMs and this was the first time I had experience Radio issues. Long story short, I switched to another WM6.5 cooked ROM and the problem was resolved.
Yesterday I finally received my Inspire. When I bought it it was reported to be unlocked, but I found out it was also rooted and radio S-OFF.
As my carrier recently released a new 4G GSM network alog with their veteran 3G CDMA network, I went migrate my account to a SIM card with my line and put it in the phone. Everything worked fine, HSDPA speeds OK, HSUPA slow (no fix yet on the phone).
Then I decided to install LeeDroid on it, the ROM is awesome, but somehow it wouldn't connect to the carrier anymore (that means, no voice, no data, some eventual GPRS connections). I restored my nand backup but it was still the same.
In the evening, I decided to flash another radio (12.54.60.2SU_26.09.04.11_M2) instead of the AT&T stock version. For this to be a fast process I had to ENG S-OFF (didn't want to mess with other methods).
Immediately the phone found strong, stable signal. I reinstalled LeeDroid and now it works as a charm, HSUPA is even faster than HSDPA (probably due to network traffic) and I'm very pleased.
My big question is: I have had many Android phones (and many Windows Mobile HTC) and I never have seen a ROM messing up with the radio, I don't even believe it's possible. So, what happened?
My only explanation is that the Ebay seller I bought the phone from messed up with something and managed to get the phone working and then sold it before it failed again.
Any thoughts about this?
What you've been through isn't normal, so something must have been messed up with your phone. You never know what a phone off of eBay has been through. Maybe it hadn't been rooted properly or something else was done incorrectly. Normally, any custom Inspire ROM works with any version of Inspire/DesireHD radio. Some radio versions work better than others, but I've never seen an instance of what happened to you with your first LeeDroid install where the data/voice connection was totally dead. What version of radio did your phone come with? It should of been either 26.06.06.30 or 26.06.04.06 - if it came with anything else then the radio had been messed with.
The good news is now that everything is working, you should be free to flash whatever ROM you want with no worry of that weird connection problem happening again. Flashing ROMs on the Inspire (except for the RUU's) doesn't mess with the radio at all, it is a separate deal. But if you continue having weird problems, I suggest flashing the rooted stock RUU from this thread and starting fresh from there.
OK, thank you.
It came with 26.06.06.30, and it's really weird, I have never had this kind of issues.
I'm really not new to android (have had a few CDMA Android phones) and now I'm switching to GSM, but I was really confident that apart from the unbranding process both phones should behave really similar.
Will see how it evolves, for now I'm really enjoying 4G speeds.
Yep, you should be fine. HenryBravo is giving good info. Some radio\ROM combinations work better than others. Depends on the ROM. That's why some chefs have a recomended radio and others do not. Good luck with your new phone.