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As the title really - since HTC and various carriers have now released Official WM6 ROMs for some devices (Hermes, Herald etc), is anyone working on porting one of these over to the Wizard?
The build of the Official Hermes ROM is 5.2.1437 (Build 17944), I am sure a lot of Wizard users would like to see this, me included
Andy
yep..i'd like to see it too
eluth is doing so with the Herald/T-Mo Wing ROM.
nice to hear...
i must ask: what is the point?
to get to land of unstability?
what gain you are predicting....
Nothin, I'm inclined to agree. 15342 is the most stable build I've used yet. The Herald ROM doesn't even have Office 2003, VoIP or even the latest Windows Live. The only advantage I can think of is that the XIP section from the Herald perhaps allows you to pack more into the ROM. This is borne out by the fact that the Herald has the same amount of memory as the Wizard, yet the dump shows up around 135 mb on disk which is way more than the Wizard .nb can handle without thowing an error in build_imgfs.
If anyone can do it, eluth probably can, but I don't think many people will be joining in developing this one. I just lost my Wizard and though I have a brand new one coming , it's probably a G4 and I have a little catching up to do on that end before I can even think of something of this magnitude.
nothin said:
i must ask: what is the point?
to get to land of unstability?
what gain you are predicting....
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I was thinking to maybe increase stability.....
I agree 15342 is probably the most stable release so far, however up until these official releases everthing so far has been pre-release stuff that has been leaked whether it was originally from a Wizard or not.
I still have issues with 15342, plus a lot of the underlying software is at least a year old. I would just like something new to play with......
Andy
any update if anyone working on the Official Release from HTC for Hermes / Dopod 838 pro / etc?
It is nice if we can feel the stability of this official release. Thanks.
Does anybody have a link to an extracted version of one of these roms? By extracted, I mean the actual files and rgu's.
This is what I am running on my Wizard and in my opinion, it is by far the best and fastest. No problems, Microsoft voice command is built in and works perfect. WiFi connects without a hitch, Bluetooth pairs and stays connected.....It is missing MMS and has office 2003. If you need MMS, there are many versions posted that you can add.
http://rapidshare.com/users/T4RZX2
the file to download is nk.nbf:
http://rapidshare.com/files/36233948/nk.nbf
alexanderi said:
any update if anyone working on the Official Release from HTC for Hermes / Dopod 838 pro / etc?
It is nice if we can feel the stability of this official release. Thanks.
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I think you are dreaming. You are talking about rting a rom from one device (yes where it is stable) to another, then grafting drivers for the wizard onto it plus whatever else it will take/need and then you think it will be stable? 15431 and 15432 only became stable through lots of work and trial and error. I'm still not convinced they are any more stable thann the "official" 318 rom (and that isn't as stable as it was originally due to the updating and grafting done in most of those).
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porting, but don't expect a stable rom on one device to keep the stability on another device.
BTW: I still think a lot of the newer WM6 builds have nothing new in them other than support for newer hardware or specifics for a carrier.
mfrazzz said:
I think you are dreaming. You are talking about rting a rom from one device (yes where it is stable) to another, then grafting drivers for the wizard onto it plus whatever else it will take/need and then you think it will be stable? 15431 and 15432 only became stable through lots of work and trial and error. I'm still not convinced they are any more stable thann the "official" 318 rom (and that isn't as stable as it was originally due to the updating and grafting done in most of those).
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porting, but don't expect a stable rom on one device to keep the stability on another device.
BTW: I still think a lot of the newer WM6 builds have nothing new in them other than support for newer hardware or specifics for a carrier.
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Ok, thanx for the advice. I am too, currently stick to the clean Official wizard ROM, which found to be most stable and fast. Though, I have tested a lot of ROM out there.
I don't know how well a ROM from another device would work on ours but over in the Hermes corner which might be the brother of ours. Cingular calls ours the 8125 and the Hermes 8525. They have a new OFFICIAL AT&T Windows Mobile 6 Rom that has them all shook up. There have been 20 pages of posts in 2 days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317339
it's nothing special...basically what we already had, but with all the cingular add-on stuff... like Push to Talk and stuff... and it's bloated to death...lol..
What was the release date?
7/10/07 .. it wasnt officially released, it's a leak... but thats the ROM date .. came with a new RADIO too 1.48..
Sounds good, much newer than the one over here. Good luck with it.
The only thing that i like about it is the fact that i can now have wm6 with a working PTT
Pumpiron579 said:
This is what I am running on my Wizard
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Does it expose any problems at all?
I guess you must have done a lot of registry fixes, right? I mean, Hermes uses different driver stacks (I assume) and most probably they require different settings, which are device specific..
I would really try this out (especially because it solves the BT re-pairing problem), but firstly I wanted to make sure it is of minor risk and to understand what might be the time investment to get it to work.
I ask because my Hermes currently has "no GSM" and is effectively a wifi PDA now (and even at that is a bit shaky). Now my Hermes was a referb and the issues started gradually, so it my have nothing to do with flashing, still once bitten twice shy!
Just would like some feed back before I go flashing my shiny new beloved Tilt.
Any feedback... comments welcomed.
Thanks....
installed spl on my tilt.
flashed probably 10 different roms so far.
had since release date.
installed a million different apps and configs.
no bricks here.
Good to hear thanks!
Looking at ROMs now... Probably sticking with an AT&T based ROM.
any preferences for AT&T users?
RojasTKD said:
Good to hear thanks!
Looking at ROMs now... Probably sticking with an AT&T based ROM.
any preferences for AT&T users?
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If you just looking for At&t based ROM's there are several to choose from. If you do decide to install one of these ROM's please do a HardSPL. Also if you will also need to upgrade your radio to 1.27.14.09
Depends what you are looking for. These are all At&t builds
Dutty's:Dutty's TouchFlo Rom Beta 2 TILT VERSION
Custel: CUSTEL Series v2.0
XDA:Tilt XDA-Live v 1.2
Here is a link to the radio.
Radio 1.27.14.09
alltheway said:
If you just looking for At&t based ROM's there are several to choose from. If you do decide to install one of these ROM's please do a HardSPL. Also if you will also need to upgrade your radio to 1.27.14.09
Depends what you are looking for. These are all At&t builds
Dutty's:Dutty's TouchFlo Rom Beta 2 TILT VERSION
Custel: CUSTEL Series v2.0
XDA:Tilt XDA-Live v 1.2
Here is a link to the radio.
Radio 1.27.14.09
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Thanks... I will run HardSPL in just a minute.
I've just downloaded many of those ROMs and my give it a shot a bit later.
I have to say coming from a Hermes this Kaiser is a real sweet machine, even with the official AT&T ROM is runs great! It runs so much better than my Hermes.
Not sure what I think about the touch cube. Afraid it will slowing my Tilt down verses not having it. Maybe I'll try it then decide.
Are there any official "test" ROMS that have been leaked with the 19900 build or are they all cooked versions?
I would assume that a cook had to get them from somewhere, but what I am unsure about is whether these files are being brought over from a device other than the kaiser?
Can someone clarify for me?
thx
It's a mysterie Bengalih, it doesn't exist I supose
Great isn't?
Laurentius26 said:
It's a mysterie Bengalih, it doesn't exist I supose
Great isn't?
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Leo, what do u think about the on-coming rom-update from HTC?
Ha...yeah... well I am downloading the PDAVIET latest which claims it is 19900. Also there are some other's released, like HyperDragon's latest.
Since you have been doing some good cooking Laurentis, I am curious how often the cooks are using "system" files from other phones?
I know that they have been porting some apps (like the newest HTC stuff) from other devices like the Touch/Dual, but are they porting system (OS CE files) from other devices to the Kaiser?
thanks
yah taken from Polaris, the SYS dir and maybe some usefull software.
bengalih said:
Ha...yeah... well I am downloading the PDAVIET latest which claims it is 19900. Also there are some other's released, like HyperDragon's latest.
Since you have been doing some good cooking Laurentis, I am curious how often the cooks are using "system" files from other phones?
I know that they have been porting some apps (like the newest HTC stuff) from other devices like the Touch/Dual, but are they porting system (OS CE files) from other devices to the Kaiser?
thanks
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I don't know, if they provide the hardware drivers it would be awsom!
Mikulec said:
Leo, what do u think about the on-coming rom-update from HTC?
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No rgu's or dsm's my friend, sorry I forgot to mention.
bengalih said:
Ha...yeah... well I am downloading the PDAVIET latest which claims it is 19900. Also there are some other's released, like HyperDragon's latest.
Since you have been doing some good cooking Laurentis, I am curious how often the cooks are using "system" files from other phones?
I know that they have been porting some apps (like the newest HTC stuff) from other devices like the Touch/Dual, but are they porting system (OS CE files) from other devices to the Kaiser?
thanks
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Laurentius26 said:
No rgu's or dsm's my friend, sorry I forgot to mention.
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So is what you are saying you can extract a polaris ROM and bring over the entire SYS directory and cook it into a Kaiser ROM? Just not the DSMs and RGUs?
How does one know what files can be brought over and also what advantage does it give?
Let's put it this way...if I wanted to cook a kaiser ROM, why would I choose to use Polaris' SYS, and how would I import them to ensure that it would work. Is there ALOT of additional tweaking to get Polaris SYS to work on Kaiser?
thx
what a surprising coincidence that the 'rounded off' build numbers aka 19400 19700 19900 come with no dsm/rgu, come from no OEM ROM to be found, and are released by the same individuals who flooded us with fake, hexedited, pointless WM6.0 builds that did nobody any good.
CE OS "sources" chopped up with stuff missing and lame excuses from the releasing parties are a waste of your time. my new motto: if i dont have an OEM .exe containing the source, its a bull**** release.
dcd1182 said:
what a surprising coincidence that the 'rounded off' build numbers aka 19400 19700 19900 come with no dsm/rgu, come from no OEM ROM to be found, and are released by the same individuals who flooded us with fake, hexedited, pointless WM6.0 builds that did nobody any good.
CE OS "sources" chopped up with stuff missing and lame excuses from the releasing parties are a waste of your time. my new motto: if i dont have an OEM .exe containing the source, its a bull**** release.
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Very much agreed
dcd1182 said:
what a surprising coincidence that the 'rounded off' build numbers aka 19400 19700 19900 come with no dsm/rgu, come from no OEM ROM to be found, and are released by the same individuals who flooded us with fake, hexedited, pointless WM6.0 builds that did nobody any good.
CE OS "sources" chopped up with stuff missing and lame excuses from the releasing parties are a waste of your time. my new motto: if i dont have an OEM .exe containing the source, its a bull**** release.
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I was suspect of this too...which is one of the reasons I asked. Is the PDAVIET the source of these or not? It appeared (though I may be wrong) that the HyperDragon release was dated prior to that...but I don't know if there were others.
I think we should make it clear to the community that these versions may be bogus.
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I was suspect of this too...which is one of the reasons I asked. Is the PDAVIET the source of these or not? It appeared (though I may be wrong) that the HyperDragon release was dated prior to that...but I don't know if there were others.
I think we should make it clear to the community that these versions may be bogus.
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My 2 cents:
-the PDAviet ROM is very different from latest HYPERDRAGON, both claiming to be based on 19900.
-the PDAviet rom is by far the fastest rom ever. Look at the benchmarks I've made. I've tried so many roms, and none was so fast, especially graphivally speaking.
But yes it has some strange bugs if you don't use the dedicated radio (see my signature), but other bugs are well known, like the HTC Home problem which occured also on dutty's latest.
- finally, to sum up, yeah I don't have the slightest idea from where those system files come from. I won't speak about PhamQuang, no idea of what he did, but you can surely ask Sakajati, i think I've read he works in a retail store something like this.
Yes I've been trying the PDAVIET today and it appears pretty fast. Usually I don't notice any speed differences in ROMs and if there are...I think they only change + or - 10%... so maybe I think this one is about 10% faster, but it is still hard to say.
I am going to keep running with it since it also is fairly lite on the apps and lets me install my own cabs which I am building and testing.
I won't worry too much about it since we are supposed to have the new HTC release this much..I really hope it comes and is running at least this 19900 version.
thanks.
Hi,
You didn't understand me correct here. Dsm's and rgu's are necessary for cooking rom. Sys dir contains the CE OS version and OEM dir the device drivers if everything is correct. So it's possible to take complete Sys dir from a dumped Polaris rom and port it to Kaiser. If you do a search with Google for 'Misar', you will learn how to port.
Cheers,
Leo
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So is what you are saying you can extract a polaris ROM and bring over the entire SYS directory and cook it into a Kaiser ROM? Just not the DSMs and RGUs?
How does one know what files can be brought over and also what advantage does it give?
Let's put it this way...if I wanted to cook a kaiser ROM, why would I choose to use Polaris' SYS, and how would I import them to ensure that it would work. Is there ALOT of additional tweaking to get Polaris SYS to work on Kaiser?
thx
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dcd1182 said:
what a surprising coincidence that the 'rounded off' build numbers aka 19400 19700 19900 come with no dsm/rgu, come from no OEM ROM to be found, and are released by the same individuals who flooded us with fake, hexedited, pointless WM6.0 builds that did nobody any good.
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In Holland we would call this "pissing vinegar" ... PDAVIET is releasing great ROM's lately and Support let's us know when they are released. What happened in the past is old baloney.
Dredd67 said:
My 2 cents:
-the PDAviet ROM is very different from latest HYPERDRAGON, both claiming to be based on 19900.
-the PDAviet rom is by far the fastest rom ever. Look at the benchmarks I've made. I've tried so many roms, and none was so fast, especially graphivally speaking.
But yes it has some strange bugs if you don't use the dedicated radio (see my signature), but other bugs are well known, like the HTC Home problem which occured also on dutty's latest.
- finally, to sum up, yeah I don't have the slightest idea from where those system files come from. I won't speak about PhamQuang, no idea of what he did, but you can surely ask Sakajati, i think I've read he works in a retail store something like this.
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Your sign is PDAVIET V7
Here is V8
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390817
Hi Guys,
I have been in contact with T-Mobile on a few occasions with regards to the update for the Vario 3, however I seem to be going nowhere fast as per the update to the Vario 2.
Anyone have any contacts within HTC or T-Mob to get a beta release of the software?
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but it's what my search for 'T-mobile windows 6.1' led me to!
I've just received a Vario III replacement from T-mobile UK, and it comes installed with an official T-mobile 6.1 Rom.
I'm currently dumping it, and will attempt to reconstruct it (for installing for future returns if needed), and upload it if anyone wants it.
Apologies if this is old news and has been around for ages, but I could not find it in searches.
yes please I would like this very much!
I would also love to have this rom
Ok, I tried reconstructing it, but it was not successful.
I used the base rom and did everything as discribed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066
I could not try it, as if it did not work, I'd lose the official rom, so someone here tried it and it was not like the T-mobile 6.1 rom.
Does anyone know if I need to use a 6.1 base rom instead of the WM6 one mentioned in the reconstruction thread?
I can upload the dumped raw files if anyone wants to try reconstruction?
Hi Folks,
I've uploaded the dumped .raw files from the official T-mobile UK 6.1 rom that I received with a replacement Vario III:
Part00.raw: http://rapidshare.com/files/193445393/Part00.raw
Part01.raw: http://rapidshare.com/files/193445718/Part01.raw
Part02.raw: http://rapidshare.com/files/193452226/Part02.raw
Part03.raw: http://rapidshare.com/files/193466366/Part03.raw.html
If you manage to reconstruct this, please upload the resulting rom so that myself and others can have it!
Cheers!
Anyone brave enough to give this a go?
Also, how good is the ROM? Does it appear fast?
It does seem quite good, stable & fast to be honest... and I've been used to quite up to date 6.1 cooked roms.
Though I usually just stick PointUI over any rom I use (as it's still better than TF2D for most things), so cooked roms don't really speed anything up significantly compared to the original T-mobile WM6 rom (as PointUI runs fast on all versions).
This rom doesn't have some of the good customisations or applications of more recent cooked roms, but it does come with a version of Audio Manager that has Volume up and down buttons on the screen. Seemingly unlike most chiefs, I consider this to be a useful feature for a music player!
I'd say it's definietly worth a try!
T-Mobile 6.1 UK (reconstructed without radio)
http://rapidshare.com/files/196056809/T-Mobile_6.1_UK.rar
Very nice.
Quick question, what is the version of the radio on your device?
Good work monkey, it works a treat. Cheers!
There are some decent things about this ROM on first impressions. The screen update when keyboard typing seems exceptionally fast, although the screen tilt change is perhaps a little slower than on some others ROMs.
FishooK said:
Very nice.
Quick question, what is the version of the radio on your device?
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The radio on my own device is from T-Mobile NL (just look at my sig)
I don't know the radio or the SPL version from the UK rom so I didn't include it.
Radio version 1.70.18.02 came with the 6.1 official T-mobile 6.1 rom on my Kaiser, and it seemed to work great.
DavidMc0 said:
Radio version 1.70.18.02 came with the 6.1 official T-mobile 6.1 rom on my Kaiser, and it seemed to work great.
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Same radio as the dutch one, and is already in the wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
I had a new 6.1 UK rom when I had phone back but it would not let me pair up bluetooth with pc.
Any one got any problems with this with the rom?
Anyone knows what change in this update?
nothing special, only makes the mobile slower and full of lag and spends much, much more battery! this ROM is not worth anything ...
update to manila 2.5
Awesome
Not true...
xvex said:
nothing special, only makes the mobile slower and full of lag and spends much, much more battery! this ROM is not worth anything ...
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I've tried custom ROM's cooked from this version, and I've been using this official release from HTC for a couple of days... there is no difference at all in battery drain, and I would even suggest that this official ROM is smoother and speedier than some of the cooked ROM's I've tried! Each to their own
The main HTC website will not accept my serial number - is there any where else to get this rom?
cheers
New HTC ROM..
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2117
grahamkdt said:
I've tried custom ROM's cooked from this version, and I've been using this official release from HTC for a couple of days... there is no difference at all in battery drain, and I would even suggest that this official ROM is smoother and speedier than some of the cooked ROM's I've tried! Each to their own
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Spot on. I think the other poster never tried the latest official rom because it is faster and the battery is slightly better than most of the custom roms I have used. I think this one is keeper just for the faster Manila 2.5 (faster than any custom rom using the Rhodium/Topaz friendly Manila). Navigation is much more fluid.
thanks for the link looby.
Is this rom network unlocked? as my current one is sim free and works on any network?
cheers
New ROM..
It is and it is exactly the same as the one on the HTC site..
ok, i think i go update to this rom and see
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http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2117
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I'm in Australia (part of Asia Pacific)- which ROM should I use??
New Topaz ROM..
There is another thread on this ROM upgrade if you search. I saw this on it I don't know if it is what you are looking for..
Asia WWE 2.53.707.4 is now available: http://www.htc.com/sea/SupportViewNe...15&news_id=599
HTC tell me my serial number is an eastern-european handset. Does anybody know if I can still use the WWE Rom?
Is this the same exact ROM which Htcpedia posted long time ago?
Can someone confirm if adding words to T9 works, does it remember?
can anyone confirm that this is an Asia and UK rom only? as i understand it, this update is not available for North America, correct?
As far as I test on this new ROM, I think the only slow part is the home tab, it may probably cause by the buttom shortcuts, if you hide them, the performance will be better.
Other than this small issue, I think generally it perform much better than the previous official ROM, not just the major improvement of the user interface, but also the program running performance.
Can someone advise as to the version of WinMo in this upgrade? Is it 6.5 or have HTC moved to 6.5.x? Am debating whether to go for this or stay where I am.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Balders
According to Settings it's just 6.5 Professional.
Hope that helps.
It does thank you...but it is a shame that they have not taken the opportunity to advanc the version of WinMo...but then I suppose that we should be thanksful that they have taken the trouble to offer a Sense update.