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Sorry for simple question, newbie here. Is there a concensus on the best ROM to update the TyTN II (US Version). I am having trouble deciphering all the threads. Is the HTC "factory" ROM best option? Thanks for any advice offered.
crecord said:
Sorry for simple question, newbie here. Is there a concensus on the best ROM to update the TyTN II (US Version). I am having trouble deciphering all the threads. Is the HTC "factory" ROM best option? Thanks for any advice offered.
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It all depends on what you are looking for. There are tons of ROMs for that device. Dutty's Touchflo is really good if you want that type of interface. The problem with the original ROM is it isn't optimized very well, could be faster and there are others out there that are. You should be lucky you dont have the Tilt, that ROM from AT&T is the slowest I have had on the device. I am looking at one that is fast and comes with as little as possible, but still allows for lots to be added, for instance I like Dutty's Touchflo but I would like to have a clean one with nothing but the basics then add the stuff myself that I want. (touchflo so far doesn't have a cab installer).
I found about 5 more ROMs that I wanna try out before I decide on just settling for one (for now).
Tilt
The TyTN II is the Tilt, isn't it? I have the Tilt.
The TyTN II and the Tilt/8925 are variants of the HTC Kaiser. Different models, but very similar.
TYTN II have the front camera, tilt doesn't.
That's the only noticeable difference (aside from different coloured keyboard).
Another difference is the way the radio is implemented into the Tilt on the latest ROM. The Tilt Radio does not work with the TyTN II ROM, but the Tilt ROM works with the TyTN II Radio. Not to confuse you or anything.
crecord said:
Sorry for simple question, newbie here. Is there a concensus on the best ROM to update the TyTN II (US Version). I am having trouble deciphering all the threads. Is the HTC "factory" ROM best option? Thanks for any advice offered.
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Don't worry about the Tilt/TyTN II differences. Just read through the discussion thread for each ROM releases and decide which one fits you better. I went through HelmiC's BigStorage, Kyphur's XDA-Live 1.0, and now I have finally settled with Dutty's Hybrid No.4 Lite version. I ditched Helmi's because it was outdated. XDA-Live was very problematic for me but ran awesome. No.4 Lite has been great so far with no problems. *knock on wood* So, it's pretty much a trail-and-error kind of deal. Try and decide on which one to keep.
another newbie with the same question. Flashing is a pain when you first start, but you gotta get use to it. Some of us flash our phones twice a week. Play around with your stock phone and figure what apps you like. Then find a rom that seems close to it. Then flash it. Otherwise, if you are afraid to flash, stick with the stock.
After flashing half a dozen roms I have settled on the latest ATT Tilt rom without the customizations and the device is overall more stable and usable than ever, plus no need to CID unlock...bonus.
stozmon said:
plus no need to CID unlock...bonus.
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Thanks. I just called AT&T and told them I was going to Europe and that I needed my phone unlocked. They sent code in an hour, so it's unlocked anyway!
crecord said:
Thanks. I just called AT&T and told them I was going to Europe and that I needed my phone unlocked. They sent code in an hour, so it's unlocked anyway!
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CID Unlock and Sim Unlock are 2 different things
Back on topic:
If you're after the Touch interface, go with Dutty's Touch Rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344351
If you want something that's not too far removed from the stock HTC, but with some bugs fixed and other improvements, go with Sleuth:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343867
I'm currently running Dutty's Hybrid Test Final RTM, from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341879
It's the best mix of speed, apps, and stability I've found.
If you want a starting point, try that. But be warned: rom flashing is an addictive pursuit. Once you start, there'll always be that nagging feeling that the next rom is better, or that someone else's rom has features you need.
Good luck!
You should really refer to the Wiki first before you do any flashing.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
I would highly recommend doing a CID unlock & Flash and ROM on your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
If you have a TyTN II I would suggest using Dutty's ToucFlo Final ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344351
If you have a At&t Tilt I would suggest using Dutty's TouchFlo Tilt Beta ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345385
Hope this helps.
English verison Rom HTC tilt HTC TyTn 11
Hello, I'm working in Russia, i bught the above here in msocw, but the rm is Russian version, Where can i ger an English (european) rom version?
I would really be greatful for some assistance..
Thank you
Just remember, when CID unlocking your device to flash cooked roms, there will be more of a process reverting to an ATT rom, if the need arises i.e. return, or warranty issues.
By starting off with an official ATT rom, there is no need to use HardSPL and like I previously mentioned, restarting before ATT custoimizations initiate leaves you with a speedy, reliable, full featured rom that is a lot better than the fully bloated, initial ATT release (radio is worlds better in the new one)
Then, you can always CID unlock and flash again later to a cooked rom if you wish. This could be considered a baby step to customizing and is a safe way to go.
My biggest gripe with a lot of the cooked roms, especially ones based on the HTC factory build is that they are not oiptimized for the tilt and have superflous features that I don't need/want.
Just my 2 pennies.
Maybe we need a upgrade guide like MrVanx made for the hermes.
dan13l said:
But be warned: rom flashing is an addictive pursuit. Once you start, there'll always be that nagging feeling that the next rom is better, or that someone else's rom has features you need.
Good luck!
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Do not overlook this little gem of knowledge/advise hidden in a post in this thread !!!!!
Best ROM
I have tried all of them but IMHO gullum touch rom beta 2 is the best rom in terms of speed, features, stability etc etc.... I can go on an on ......... I would strongly recommend to at least try it once.
manzur_mahmood said:
I have tried all of them but IMHO gullum touch rom beta 2 is the best rom in terms of speed, features, stability etc etc.... I can go on an on ......... I would strongly recommend to at least try it once.
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How does the cube work on Gullum's ROM...I have no complaints with Dutty's TouchFLO Tilt BETA
I do not think Gullum includes the cube. Maybe someone that actually runs it can chime in.
Greets,
I see we have a lot of choices in cooked ROM's. I was wondering if any of these ROM's include all the tilt fixes necessary (keyboard, proxy, etc) once you flash out of stock AT&T.
Thanks
take dutty's touchflo tilt version
jdmba said:
Greets,
I see we have a lot of choices in cooked ROM's. I was wondering if any of these ROM's include all the tilt fixes necessary (keyboard, proxy, etc) once you flash out of stock AT&T.
Thanks
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Yep try this one man.
Dutty just uploaded it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345385
go for custel's chopped n screwed.. it blows all the other roms out of the water if u dont want that touch bull****
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go for custel's chopped n screwed.. it blows all the other roms out of the water if u dont want that touch bull****
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Custel's is a very nice and quick rom, but i would not go as far as saying it blows all other roms out of the water.
once you flash your first rom its quick and easy to flash other ones so i would just give them all a try to find wich one you like best. one thing you should look out for tho is if the rom is compatible with 14.09 radio, for me it is really a big boost in signal strength with the new radio. its all about taking and leaving some things when you arent making your own roms, you just have to find one that suits your needs best.
If you want the ultimate customization and you're also tech saavy, I highly recommend cooking your own ROM.
I like contributing back to the Kaiser community so I've already released an HTC based ROM w/ all OEM packages for everyone to begin cooking.
Look forward to the same with the ATT 1.6 ROM sometime next week.
See my sig, AT&T Chopped & Screwed.
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If you want the ultimate customization and you're also tech saavy, I highly recommend cooking your own ROM.
I like contributing back to the Kaiser community so I've already released an HTC based ROM w/ all OEM packages for everyone to begin cooking.
Look forward to the same with the ATT 1.6 ROM sometime next week.
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Can't wait for a try @ AT&T Tilt w/_Alex_'s UltraClean AT&T 1.60.502.3.BETA ROM
This thread is WAAAAY out of date and I haven't had time to update. Please check out AllTheWay's post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
I'd say stickie this,with each having an agreed upon description, i know you can find them in the wiki, but these are some of the most asked questions/problems people come up with in new ROM threads.
As mention in this thread, there is even a newer 1.27.12.29 Radio version out but unfortunately nobody has dumped it yet...
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There are currently 3 radios out there on the threads:
1. 1.27.14.09
2. 1.27.12.17
3. 1.27.12.11
1. I believe this one is the new ATT only radio that apparently upgrades some reception and performance but I haven't really seen it.
2. I haven't tried this one but I think it should work with all Kaisers, I don't know.
3. This was the radio that came with my ATT TILT and I think the default radio for most of these ROMs.
Does anyone have a better explination and/or performance reports? I thought it would be a good idea to make a thread so people know what these radios are and where to get them.
-Ponch
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AT&T User here in Sacramento, CA.
Honestly 1.27.12.17 radio gives me the best reception over all of them. I also connect to GPRS and 3G quicker. Call quality and overall reception is much improved over the other two radios.
It might be a good idea to mention that Radio 1) 1.27.14.09 is only compatible with the ATT rom aku 0.4.4 build 18128. This is because the the both this radio and rom include new drivers that can only produce sound when used together.
So if someone is using 1.27.14.09 with any other ROM than the unreleased Att build 18128, they will not have any sound.
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AT&T User here in Sacramento, CA.
Honestly 1.27.12.17 radio gives me the best reception over all of them. I also connect to GPRS and 3G quicker. Call quality and overall reception is much improved over the other two radios.
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I understand that the 1.27.12.xx radios can't be used with the AT&T 1.60 rom, but what about the other way around? Can the 1.27.12.17 radio be used with the AT&T 1.60 (stock, not custom) rom? Or does the 1.60 ROM require the newer 1.27.14.09 radio due to the drivers?
Good note, I'll put it in.
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I understand that the 1.27.12.xx radios can't be used with the AT&T 1.60 rom, but what about the other way around? Can the 1.27.12.17 radio be used with the AT&T 1.60 (stock, not custom) rom? Or does the 1.60 ROM require the newer 1.27.14.09 radio due to the drivers?
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For some strange reason...The newest ATT ROM requires you to have 1.27.14.09. I don't know specifically why this is the case but if you do not use that ratio with the new AT&T ROM it will not work. Vice Versa if you use that newest AT&T radio 1.27.14.09 with a HTC ROM you will get no sound. Just read the 1st post and it will solve all your problems.
Ah this thread certainly helps clear some things up. I couldn't figure out this whole radio problem - but having it laid out like this makes it clear.
So does anyone know the advantage of the newest AT&T Radio? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you have to use an older version of the OS to get a newer version of the radio... ?
It should also be noted that you can get other undesirable effects other besides no sound when using 1.27.14.09 on a ROM that isn't based on AKU 0.4.4
So far I've experienced:
-- Camera not working, shows black image and touchscreen functionality messed up in Camera app (Dutty's New Build + CE OS No.6)
-- Unable to get past HTC logo screen until power timeout, then pixelated garbage fills screen (Gullum Kaiser Touch I)
It might be prudent for ROM cookers to integrate the correct radio into their ROM's for the time being so we don't get a flood of people freaking out that their cameras are broken or their units are bricked.
It remains to be seen if the 1.27.14.09 radio is a one-off, or will be the standard for all new ROMs. Who knows, it may also represent a permanent split between Tilt-based and TYTN II-based ROMs in the future.
rob.ocelot said:
It should also be noted that you can get other undesirable effects other besides no sound when using 1.27.14.09 on a ROM that isn't based on AKU 0.4.4
So far I've experienced:
-- Camera not working, shows black image and touchscreen functionality messed up in Camera app (Dutty's New Build + CE OS No.6)
-- Unable to get past HTC logo screen until power timeout, then pixelated garbage fills screen (Gullum Kaiser Touch I)
It might be prudent for ROM cookers to integrate the correct radio into their ROM's for the time being so we don't get a flood of people freaking out that their cameras are broken or their units are bricked.
It remains to be seen if the 1.27.14.09 radio is a one-off, or will be the standard for all new ROMs. Who knows, it may also represent a permanent split between Tilt-based and TYTN II-based ROMs in the future.
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Right you are. It seems like this .09 radio is an ATT only thing right now. Hopefully we'll all join in radio cooked harmony soon. I haven't noticed much of a difference between the ones I've tried. I'm currently using 1.27.12.17 with Dutty's newest rom and I was using the .09 with CUSTEL's Rom yesterday... I don't see a difference. Some people do.
I just became a senior member, hooray!
ponch92 said:
I just became a senior member, hooray!
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Great contributions so far!
1.27.12.11 vs 1.27.12.17
Hi guys,
1.27.12.17 has better battery life for sure after tested both of them.
hey guys, i have a tilt and just upgraded to the 1.27.12.17 radio. i used to have 2-3 bars at home and now have 4 bars! i'm using tmobile usa btw, in case that helps
omaralt said:
hey guys, i have a tilt and just upgraded to the 1.27.12.17 radio. i used to have 2-3 bars at home and now have 4 bars! i'm using tmobile usa btw, in case that helps
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I noted your find in the first post, thanks!
Just to throw things off even more...It has been reported by users that there is another Radio, but it hasn't been extracted yet.
Congrats on making this a sticky!!
Radio Version 1.27.12.32
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528
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Just the throw things off even more...It has been reported by users that there is another Radio, but it hasn't been extracted yet.
Congrats on making this a sticky!!
Radio Version 1.27.12.32
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528
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got it bud, thanks.
ponch92 said:
[*]1.27.12.29
You can read about this recent radio here.
This Radio hasn't made it out to main stream cooking yet but should be a general Kaiser radio that works with ROMs not using the specific ATT build (see 1.27.14.09).
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FYI This is the radio I have on my XDA Stellar as well as it being on the Dutch Orange Kaiser.
When I get my replacement Stellar (dead pixel issues) I'll be flashing Dutty's ROM and will be able to confirm whether it works with this radio.
eyebeebe said:
FYI This is the radio I have on my XDA Stellar as well as it being on the Dutch Orange Kaiser.
When I get my replacement Stellar (dead pixel issues) I'll be flashing Dutty's ROM and will be able to confirm whether it works with this radio.
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Awesome thanks...
I have a ATT Tilt, with original ROM. I downloaded the newest ROM from HTC for the ATT Tilt. Only reason I did this was because I was told it would get rid of the "button/screen press not registering unless you hold/press for a while." Anyways, it seems to have worked. Not 100% trouble free on that front.. anyways...
I didn't want to do any of the cooked ROMs mods yet as I'm willing to wait for the 6.1 official release. BUT I noticed 2x already I lost signal on my T-Mobile service and GPS seems to loose lock easier.
Is there a way for me to just replace the Radio: 1.27.14.09 with something else or even the original radio that I had?
I'm reading the radio FAQ and it mentions that the ROM:AT&T 1.62.502.0 (The one I dloaded) can only use 2 radios, the .09 and .07 radios. I don't see anything on what the .07 radio is or if its any better.
starstreak said:
I have a ATT Tilt, with original ROM. I downloaded the newest ROM from HTC for the ATT Tilt. Only reason I did this was because I was told it would get rid of the "button/screen press not registering unless you hold/press for a while." Anyways, it seems to have worked. Not 100% trouble free on that front.. anyways...
I didn't want to do any of the cooked ROMs mods yet as I'm willing to wait for the 6.1 official release. BUT I noticed 2x already I lost signal on my T-Mobile service and GPS seems to loose lock easier.
Is there a way for me to just replace the Radio: 1.27.14.09 with something else or even the original radio that I had?
I'm reading the radio FAQ and it mentions that the ROM:AT&T 1.62.502.0 (The one I dloaded) can only use 2 radios, the .09 and .07 radios. I don't see anything on what the .07 radio is or if its any better.
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http://www.4shared.com/file/4422815...271407_CustomRUU.html?dirPwdVerified=dc855d4b
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182
Thanks, that's the thread I'm trying to read/figure out right now. Lots of info. Thanks for the link for the .07.
Update: ok, read the 17pages. Ouch. my brain hurts. It seems GPS lock doesn't improve much and unless I use a cooked rom and goto a 6.1ROM with better radios, I don't think swapping the .07 will help. Does this sound about right?
Also, does Tilt really use agps? Should I disable that? I thought one of the posts said it worked better with it off..
For me, agps never really worked very well on the tilt. Also, igo and some oother gps programs don't work with it.
On a side note, there are some ROMs that would work well for you stability wise. Q-mobile 2 is a super stable 6.0 ROM. 6.1 ROMs have more problems but some of them come pretty close and do offer the newer radios like you mentioned.
The radio in my signature has given me the best gps performance of all that I have tried.
Hallo all
I am updating a friend's Raphael tonight.
Which Radio and ROM do you all suggest?
She is with AT&T (so the FUZE) and she is a bare bones kinda gal. Not into the bells and whistles. But she does want a better performing phone.
Thx for any and all of your info!!
legend0fthefall said:
Hallo all
I am updating a friend's Raphael tonight.
Which Radio and ROM do you all suggest?
She is with AT&T (so the FUZE) and she is a bare bones kinda gal. Not into the bells and whistles. But she does want a better performing phone.
Thx for any and all of your info!!
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Every radio seems to be different for everyone.
I, personally, like the Blackstone radios the best because they seem to give me better call quality than any other radio I've used, and I'm in an Edge only area.
LOTS of people seemed to like the 1.12 leaked AT&T radio, and quite a few people are using the official AT&T update 1.14 radio.
As far as a ROM, try to show her both TF3D and Titanium. Some people like WM6.5 (I'm one of them), while others hate it and prefer WM6.1.
Da_G has a bare-bones version of both. If you do the WM6.1 version, you'll have to install ALL of the HTC cabs yourself if you want TouchFlo and TF3D (Manila).
If you want WM6.5, I've been running RRE v6.3 and its very fast and stable. EnergyROM is also a good series, both 6.5 and 6.1.
So there's a lot of variables you need to figure out before you pick one to flash.
EDIT: Also, after flashing a ROM, remember to hard reset when you get to the "tap the screen..." prompt, this will help eliminate weird bugs that may popup.
I have very little experience with flashed roms and radios so far, so i won't comment on the radio, but for the rom, it sounds from whate everyone is suggesting for newbies go for the EnergyRom 2.0 WWE FINAL rom
use the Da_G basic roms then. just search around a bit.
don't use energyRom for this... they're made to be fast and tend to be slightly unstable.. if you're not a power user, it doesn't do you any good.