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Free Internet on US Tmobile MDA

Hi everyone
I just wanted to know if someone has tried a prepaid sim on the mda and used the internet through EDGE. For some reason i get free internet and I just have $10 on my account with no charge to it. post if you get the same result.
Update: Was told about this Free WAP on T-Mobile!
But they talk about having free wap but its actually free gprs so you can use PIE, Opera for ppc,
Win media and listen to streams or anything that can use gprs (edge)
and also you can use modem link or internet sharing for your PC
Update 2: This will only work for US T-Mobile because of the updating to 3G of the network. So it may work for a limited time. < Refining EDGE
Update 3: Can also work on contract sim cards but i advise to use at own risk tmobile my start to charge you and it can get expensive if you do not have a data plan. I have been told that sometimes this may not work But will work on prepaid sim cards
Update 4: this will work on any phone but you need to have a different web browser like opera mini. It may also stop working but will work again if you disconnect and connect again right then or in a different time.
Settings to use: Cellular line (GPRS) and wap.voicestream.com
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aboutthemind said:
3G roll out is already in the air. when it comes to net working i go with hours spent under neath my old server room.
By the way update news flash t mobile is not hearing any of this i fact that stock is all that matters rember business thats what comes first i'm for you believe me pure respect but you would think i just got here.
\Ok t-mobile back end site
http://www.t-mobile.com/promotions/samsungblastlp.aspx?WT.mc_n=MesgPromoLink_SpecPg&WT.mc_t=OnsiteAd
Plug this today if you are complianing this is a capped plan now what ever you do it doesn't matter. the compute will bill for what you have
Move this to the front so i don't have to deal with the hype
fact free net never went down
means no man down if no mms was being used or dialed in.
Fact i still cant get out on some phones i am cingular so t-mobile takes a bit longer for me
Plane straight t-zones $5.99 no mms cabs t-zones
216.155.165.50:8080 done
Plan t-zones online only catch 22 must change phone to a non pda.
I am OK with this move for one reason. the minute you make a call the system will flip your phone status back to the beautiful stock photo of what ever you have
If you don't understand me well guess what i don't look up when i type i do look up when i sign paychecks so just ask your friend moderator and this goes right into th45 move chart. 7 years and still cant typo as fast as i think
My theory is this i still am having problems with outh the cabs like im handi cap so that mens that the mms plays a role when you dial it in dont ask some else figure it out because our cabs work but i always change to 8080
the same source and my coaching argues with me on this stupid subject.
everyone here that has a opinion should also take into consideration that mathematics and reason does not make the world go round in the us its money homes and cars we will leave that discussion for one of my 100 seminars i power train at.
But 3g is already their but cingular never owned or should i say lease the heavier sites up top they bought the newbie national package. So the reason t mobile is not as deep is because cingular most likely resigned a separate deal that would not be part of a locked contract. So t mobile has to buy it on thier own.
But 3g only works in certain areas like blocks but when t hooks up it shakes financially t-mobile will wait until the market moves an inch the hype is not 3g for the 97 percent of the world only the fans. You will see more picture and video before speed is a priority.
hence the reason 2000 laptops are a nickel now. i see a ten quad coming why some body shooting the titanic nope i guarantee you some asshole in chicago saw that the glutens meaning the us will be picture crazy and share your picture and make your family trip a movie so they are making gaming look like a intermediate sport
good news better for the individual that wants a nuke for hardware cause last time i checked Intel core duo 2 were not $599. wait a month the good stuff will just get cheaper.
T-mobile could give to ****s about anybody back dooring a connection. Half of the reason it limited is to cut down on support the sales guy has no affiliation with the web and has no idea that his company is like the airlines trying to eliminate human error and involvement so thats why all cell phone company's act like mac users when u walk in. Mention the website your done.
You guys 2 ways to go media $9.95 or t-zones flip the phone online to a non pda chief go ahead and tear this up copy paste what ever get to the front so we don't up set the ladies.
I hope today we can 3 issues Dr shaps VOIP your smash and grab t-mobile issue and my feeling of un-appreciation. I like the fact that i am a member its a good thing i love roman history and i take that as a compliment. I thought junior wood chuck suited me.
But what do i know
except xda is not to be disrespected and no matter this is a good place.
ah screw it why should i change my style somebody eklse spell scheck this i need to go to frys and buy the left side make sure we handle this voip that works fine issue.
I like that one
t-mobile will not wait much longer but i wa
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gonna try and post
I am gonna go get a prepaid card and try this. and post my findings soon.

Need someone to test this? please thanks in advance
ps. also try in other phones if possible and i think it dosent matter how much money you have

Go to the PrePAID thread in Howardforum, it's been happening for awhile now. I am roaming in Vancouver and I still have free WAP speed internet.

story said:
Go to the PrePAID thread in Howardforum, it's been happening for awhile now. I am roaming in Vancouver and I still have free WAP speed internet.
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Thanks for telling me

I read somewhere on howardforums about a week or so ago about this. From what I saw posted, this is only temporary because T-Mobile is making some upgrades on their data network.
I guess for the time being it’s just easier for them to open the whole data network to everyone while making whatever changes/upgrades.
My guess would be its some kind of upgrade to the internet access authentication system, and since that authentication system is down during the upgrade, the smoothest way to continue data access for the time being is to just give it to everyone. Just a guess though =P

I think its for there new 3G network. but for now ill enjoy the free service. Hope they dont charge when they finish there upgrade.

ultraprimeomega said:
Hi all
I just wanted to know if someone has tried a prepaid sim on the mda and used the internet through EDGE. For some reason i get free internet and I just have $10 on my account with no charge to it. post if you get the same result.
Update: Was told about this Free WAP on T-Mobile!
But they talk about having free wap but its actually free gprs so you can use PIE, Opera for ppc,
Win media and listen to streams or anything that can use gprs (edge)
and also you can use modem link or internet sharing for your PC
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What settings are you using? I had it for a while on my unlocked cingular 8525 using t-mobile prepaid but I lost my settings when I hard resetted and everything I have tried so far hasn't worked. BTW do you have it working where u can use WIFI or GPRS without having to change your settings under connections everytime?

cjchriscj said:
What settings are you using? I had it for a while on my unlocked cingular 8525 using t-mobile prepaid but I lost my settings when I hard resetted and everything I have tried so far hasn't worked. BTW do you have it working where u can use WIFI or GPRS without having to change your settings under connections everytime?
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just use the regular tmobile gprs settings and i dont change anything in the connection settings

ultraprimeomega said:
just use the regular tmobile gprs settings and i dont change anything in the connection settings
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Umm, yea..., I forgot the settings, and since its a cingular 8525 it doesnt come with them, could you post them please?

cjchriscj said:
Umm, yea..., I forgot the settings, and since its a cingular 8525 it doesnt come with them, could you post them please?
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i dont know my settings right now because im in mexico using a different carrier
but you can try this settings that i got from http://tmobileus.wdsglobal.com/phonefirst
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Settings have been redone and work for me
Setting up the handset
1. Tap Start.
2. Tap Settings.
3. Tap on the Connections tab.
4. Tap the Connections icon.
5. Tap Add a new modem connection under T-Mobile GPRS or whatever name you have
6. Enter Tmobile Data in the Enter a name for the connection field.
7. Tap to select Cellular Line (GPRS) from the Select a modem drop down list.
8. Tap Next.
9. Enter wap.voicestream.com in the Access point name field.
10. Tap Next.
11. Tap Finish.
12. Tap Edit my proxy server under T-Mobile GPRS or whatever name you have
13. Tap to check This network connects to the Internet.
Hope this helps you

ultraprimeomega said:
I think its for there new 3G network
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No way, they havent even gotton everyone who off the spectrum's yet.

I have a T-mobile prepaid sim and I get free internet. I don't think its edge speed though because it does take a while for the web pages to load. I think its wap speed. If you are getting edge speeds without paying, I guess your lucky. No charge.

it goes faster if you use it on a computer but when using it on the phone it goes slower. i read somewhere that edge has 4 time slots and could go at higher speeds if all 4 time slots are connected but thats in good weather and nothing between the phone and the tower. i think its in wikipedia.com that i read this.

I'm getting it too...wooohooo! Much slower than wireless but it's great to update weather and rss feeds. Thanks to everyone for all the info.

ultraprimeomega said:
Hi everyone
I just wanted to know if someone has tried a prepaid sim on the mda and used the internet through EDGE. For some reason i get free internet and I just have $10 on my account with no charge to it. post if you get the same result.
Update: Was told about this Free WAP on T-Mobile!
But they talk about having free wap but its actually free gprs so you can use PIE, Opera for ppc,
Win media and listen to streams or anything that can use gprs (edge)
and also you can use modem link or internet sharing for your PC
Update 2: This will only work for US T-Mobile because of the updating to 3G of the network. So it may work for a limited time.
Update 3: Can also work on contract sim cards but i advise to use at own risk tmobile my start to charge you and it can get expensive if you do not have a data plan. I have been told that sometimes this may not work.
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thanks for that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Is it still good/working or they blocked it already?
Thanks,
Tom

I get it free too!
I just posted this in the networking area ... I too am getting FREE connectivity .. without a prepaid card.
I do not have a data plan, am on a regular family plan, and am located in Salt Lake City, UT. I am also out of contract.
I flashed my MDA to Faria's AKU 3.3 8mb ROM. Set my carrier to "T-Mobile WAP", and voila! I get free access.
I freaked the first time it started up, and was downloading data.. thinking I was going to get a big fat bill.
I called customer service, and long story short, they told me that if I could connect, I was lucky, because it is a fluke, and I would be shortly disconnected thereafter. I was also told that I would NOT be charged.
So ... there you have it. Free (for a limited time) data access on T-Mobile.

swingheim said:
I just posted this in the networking area ... I too am getting FREE connectivity .. without a prepaid card.
I do not have a data plan, am on a regular family plan, and am located in Salt Lake City, UT. I am also out of contract.
I flashed my MDA to Faria's AKU 3.3 8mb ROM. Set my carrier to "T-Mobile WAP", and voila! I get free access.
I freaked the first time it started up, and was downloading data.. thinking I was going to get a big fat bill.
I called customer service, and long story short, they told me that if I could connect, I was lucky, because it is a fluke, and I would be shortly disconnected thereafter. I was also told that I would NOT be charged.
So ... there you have it. Free (for a limited time) data access on T-Mobile.
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I think the representatives dont know about the upgrade until there almost finish upgrading. as i been seeing its been a long time, maybe since 2005 that people have reported this. It makes me think that they are updating all of the network. that will also means that they will be taking out 3g phones and i could finally use my htc tytn on tmobile for internet instead of cingular.

swingheim said:
I just posted this in the networking area ... I too am getting FREE connectivity .. without a prepaid card.
I do not have a data plan, am on a regular family plan, and am located in Salt Lake City, UT. I am also out of contract.
I flashed my MDA to Faria's AKU 3.3 8mb ROM. Set my carrier to "T-Mobile WAP", and voila! I get free access.
I freaked the first time it started up, and was downloading data.. thinking I was going to get a big fat bill.
I called customer service, and long story short, they told me that if I could connect, I was lucky, because it is a fluke, and I would be shortly disconnected thereafter. I was also told that I would NOT be charged.
So ... there you have it. Free (for a limited time) data access on T-Mobile.
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I am hoping that i don't get charged for this right now but i have no data plan and am trying it. Fingers crossed.
I am also wondering when it is going to end so I won't get charged for data usage

Any TILT users with WM 6.1 been Charged for tethering??

Hey guys I just recently updated to 6.1 on my tilt with vega's rom and i came across an old thread that said with WM 6.1 that carriers could see if the device was tethering using the internet sharing feature and charge accordingly. I use WMWiFiRouter and i have unlimited medianet on my plan and together to this point I have not incurred any data charges.. Has anyone else used wmwifirouter with 6.1 and been charged??
Thanx
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about a month back since I was moving apartments I ended up using about a gigs worth of tethering until my internet was setup. I tried to use it pretty sparingly - in the end no fancy charges on the bill!
also I have cingulars PDA personal max with the smallest minute plan (totals about 90 per month)
I must say though this is one example, ive read all kinds of things on this topic and its too confusing to be predictable. Your taking a risk but i think it should be ok for ocasional light use.
Another strategy since it seems you dont want to restrict yourself to light use. Just go nuts really and when the bill hits if it EVEr hits who knows, thats the point where you call up and act humbly confused. The cingular people will remove the 33,000+ dollars worth of charges. This is what happened to me on my first month with the tilt no joke 33,000!!! - thats how I got punched from 20 dollar a month media net access with to 40 pda personal max. they know once cant expect a payment of such bonkers proportions -beware its all part of their plan at all times to make you upgrade so good luck.

Wow thats crazy.. I myself use under a gig a month and i have been doing this for a long time. I was just caught off guard when i read that you can possibly be billed when you use Windows mobile 6.1.. Are you using windows mobile 6 or 6.1??

I would assume they will not be charging. I believe that it is a new feature of windows mobile 6.1 that could be implemented if at&t ever made a windows mobile 6.1 ROM but at&t's official ROM is still windows mobile 6. (Even the updated one that was just released) So how could they charge for a feature that they don't support? But I guess we will find out here in another billing cycle.

Dont DO IT
I just upgraded my phone to a AT&T tilt. I already had a Media Max 200 bundle that I have had for almost 2 years. As of last night my account said I had the Media MAx 200 plan. .. I poped the SIM card into the tilt this morning. Now I view my account online and it says that my MediaMax 200 plan expires on 04/08 and the amount next to it says zero. When I look at the data usage it shows I am being billed ber kb... you guys need to watch it. Strange thing is my wife has a HTC phone that we got on ebay it was a eurpoean import and her media max is still there. I think it has somethin to do with them knowing the IMIE number. Something to think about. So Ilm off to find a way to mask the darn imie number or I will just purchase an import.
Any suggestions

alynch75 said:
I just upgraded my phone to a AT&T tilt. I already had a Media Max 200 bundle that I have had for almost 2 years. As of last night my account said I had the Media MAx 200 plan. .. I poped the SIM card into the tilt this morning. Now I view my account online and it says that my MediaMax 200 plan expires on 04/08 and the amount next to it says zero. When I look at the data usage it shows I am being billed ber kb... you guys need to watch it. Strange thing is my wife has a HTC phone that we got on ebay it was a eurpoean import and her media max is still there. I think it has somethin to do with them knowing the IMIE number. Something to think about. So Ilm off to find a way to mask the darn imie number or I will just purchase an import.
Any suggestions
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Swap to a NON-PDA phone, use that for a couple days, call them up and tell 'em the Tilt is an occasional use phone. That was a suggestion that I'd read in another thread dealing with that issue. And to the tethering WM6.1 users (including myself), we'll see in a month or so whether we go HOLY F$%^ING $H^T or if its business as usual.

can you guys point me in the right direction for setting up my teathering. I can't get it to work.

hope this helps..
scwilson8382 said:
can you guys point me in the right direction for setting up my teathering. I can't get it to work.
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As long as you have either XP or Vista, all you have to do is find a utility called "internet sharing" which should be a part of your communication manager, especially if you have the custom ones that allow you to turn on/off bluetooth, wifi, phone, etc. Once you tap on it you will see just two drop down boxes where one of them is for selecting bluetooth or usb.
step 1. Click on the "connect" soft button which will activate your data connection.
step 2. plug in the usb port of your Tilt/Kaiser.
Step 3. plug in a usb port on your pc/notebook. (this will ensure it won't activate your activesync connection)
wait about 5 seconds or so and launch your browser.. have a blast.
Its that simple.

I have Dutty's Touch (Build 18548.dutty's). In the connections sub menu I have the wireless modem option. After I open it, select usb and hit start nothing happens. I'm running VISTA HOME PREMIUM. when you say hit connect do you mean the "Data Connection in the com manager or the "Start" in the wireless modem panel? I have followed the directions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288753

alynch75 said:
I just upgraded my phone to a AT&T tilt. I already had a Media Max 200 bundle that I have had for almost 2 years. As of last night my account said I had the Media MAx 200 plan. .. I poped the SIM card into the tilt this morning. Now I view my account online and it says that my MediaMax 200 plan expires on 04/08 and the amount next to it says zero. When I look at the data usage it shows I am being billed ber kb... you guys need to watch it. Strange thing is my wife has a HTC phone that we got on ebay it was a eurpoean import and her media max is still there. I think it has somethin to do with them knowing the IMIE number. Something to think about. So Ilm off to find a way to mask the darn imie number or I will just purchase an import.
Any suggestions
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You upgraded to a fresh-out-of-box Tilt or you upgraded your Tilt to windows mobile 6.1? When I bought my Tilt they told me that my media max data plan would not work with it and that they would need to upgrade it to a 3G data plan. Could this be your case?

scwilson8382 said:
I have Dutty's Touch (Build 18548.dutty's). In the connections sub menu I have the wireless modem option. After I open it, select usb and hit start nothing happens. I'm running VISTA HOME PREMIUM. when you say hit connect do you mean the "Data Connection in the com manager or the "Start" in the wireless modem panel? I have followed the directions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288753
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Checkout this screenshot.. this is the utility that actually comes with even the stock ROM. See if you can find it in some other folder.
So, you're gonna tap the connect soft key and then plug into the usb port of the computer. The other utilities became pretty much obsolete once MS added this utility, I believe in WM5 for the first time.
The others have to be installed on your machine and activesync disabled.. this one doesn't need any of those.

Zer0 said:
You upgraded to a fresh-out-of-box Tilt or you upgraded your Tilt to windows mobile 6.1? When I bought my Tilt they told me that my media max data plan would not work with it and that they would need to upgrade it to a 3G data plan. Could this be your case?
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Im on the iphone plan (iphone under repair) and the tilt works fine on the iphone data plan. using another sim that is only mediamax 200 it also works fine. i dont think the plan needs to be 3G specified for it to work with the tilt

Help Me Out Here
Okay so what do I do? I got the tilt from AT&T via fed express. It had a sim card in it but i didn't use it. I just took the sim card out of my old blackjack and put it in the tilt and now nothing... it worked but online the price and plan changed. anyoine have any ideas

alynch75 said:
Okay so what do I do? I got the tilt from AT&T via fed express. It had a sim card in it but i didn't use it. I just took the sim card out of my old blackjack and put it in the tilt and now nothing... it worked but online the price and plan changed. anyoine have any ideas
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The sim for the tilt needs to be a 3g sim. Your blackjack one is probably not unless you upgraded it. You can call at&t over the phone and get them to switch the sims to the new one that came with your tilt.
I think this is what you are asking but I'm not really sure.

Data Plans
I had similar experience where I called ATT and asked for to have my Tilt switched to Unlimited media net for $19.95 +200 SMS instead of $35 PDA data plan with 1500 SMS included... and lady on the other side told me that MediaNet is - and I quote "DIFFERENT TYPE OF INTERNET"
Well, I tried to pursuade her that it is same data plan my wife has on her Iphone but she was determined not to give up telling me fairytales about "Specialized DATA PLAN for iPhone...." and that Windows device uses more data than Iphone
Eventhough I told her that use about 60Mb/per month, mostly for emails (and comparing to my wife whose data usage is more on the level of Apache server than iPhone - up to 10-12Gb/month) still did not help to make ATT agent diviate from reading the predifined customer service script in front of her, and lower my Data plan rate.
The following evening I went to local ATT store and very cool sales rep(store was empty so I was obviously breaking monothony of his shift) Changed the plan without single questions. - Everything works same way as with PDA data plan - no issues whatsoever.

I was having an intermittent data connection issue on my phone (it usually worked in 3G, but not on EDGE, very weird) I have the MediaMax 19.99
Anyway, I called in and actually got a decent rep. I told him that I switched sims between a Tilt and a Razor (work vs night/weekend) and he was very cool.
Basically he saw that my data wasn't crazy, said that he totally got what was going on, and was not going to raise any flags or anything, but that he "could not provide support" for data connection issues while the SIM was in a Tilt with that plan. He then said he would check everything on the back end and to restart my phone in 4 minutes.
Presto chango and it has worked almost perfectly since (about the last 3 weeks) I personally agree with his stance. I mean, I think AT&T is still getting a good bit of cash from me, but obviously I am gaming the system a little bit, so just not supporting it, but not coming down on it seems fair to me.
THe guy I got owns a Tilt (and probably has the freakin MEdia Max plan!) but I am sure if you get some yaboo who doesn't know a slider phone from a slider burger then all you will get is the rote script. In that case, be polite, hand up, and call back until you get someone that knows what to do. Or as another poster said, try going to the store although there is no guarantee there that they will be less idiotic.

When I hang up, they call me back

Any update on the original poster's question on this? Does WM6.1 include some new way of letting carriers know if the data is being used "from the phone directly" or "from a PC via tethering"?

It looks like the Internet Sharing in 6.1 gives the carriers the ability to track usage, but this doesn't necessarily mean that they will be tracking usage. If anyone is worried about this just find or cook a WM6.1 rom without internet sharing and install the one from a 6.0 rom like the one I have attached (made by Chainfire).
I think _Alex_ has a really clean 6.1 and mine (check sig) has nearly everything removed.

Personally I don't think they will be checking, at least yet... They haven't released a WM 6.1 Tilt, so they are probably working under the assumption that none of the Tilts are 6.1.
-Jay

AT&T Fuze without data plan?

I bought a used AT&T Fuze online, and it came yesterday. I popped my SIM in, and this morning, I received a text message saying a data plan is required for all smartphones. I called up AT&T and got my IMEI changed and cancelled the data plan. Is there a way to prevent AT&T from charging me for the data plan, so that I can just use the phone without internet access (excluding Wi-fi, obviously)?

I have the same question. Back in October I had a Tilt that didn't have the plan - activated it and had been using the plan until mid January - the phone was stolen out of my car. Using a Blackberry now and they automatically stopped the data plan. I have a new Fuze on the way and don't want to pay the 30 per month as I can use WIFI almost anywhere for free.
Read that their policy is that if you have a smartphone they'll will automatically charge the 30 and activate you if you activate a new phone - but it doesn't specify whether the "new" phone is purchased from them or just through a change in recognition via the SIM.
When I looked at my account in January there isn't an option to disable the data plan - used to be there - so I'm thinking you use a Smartphone you have to pay. Seem to me a class action lawsuit should be in the works. Many use the phone as a PDA and don't care if we have access 24/7.
Maybe if they upped their speeds and coverage for 3g while lowering the price say to 10 to 15 it would be worth it.

So I'm guessing it can't be done? darn. Damn AT&T!

Unlock it and use t-mobile; that may be your best bet.

i bought my fuze with no data plan so there shouldnt be a problem. as long as you didnt purchase where u received a discount for signing up for a data plan

I bought it used, and it automatically charged me

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I didnt have that problem with AT$T, actually.. i just recently put my wife's sim into my old fuze. with the exception of getting charged for unwanted data that got downloaded automatically, she has had no problems. she doesn't use the internet so it is fine. I just had AT&T block any data from her line. ( her line is no longer under contract, and i would like to keep it that way...)
I do actually have a question of my own... (didn't want to start a new thread)....
she does want to send and receive picture messages, we have unlimited messaging, but with the fuze you must have data in order to send or receive MMS. AT&T thinks she still has her old razr.
I would like to set her up with unlimited data plan for the razr, which is only like $10 per month, and was wondering if this would work with the fuze and what settings i might need to change to make it work.
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keith

Sorry, but from how it looks now.. No you can't.. if you use Data, they will catch you that you are using a Fuze... the only "work around" I know is this... She can set up a yahoo, gmail, or simmilar account to just use with her phone... Then whenever she is in a WiFi area, she can send and receive picture email.. she can take the picture and compose them anytimes.. just has to wait to send them til she can use the WiFi.... MMS accounts can both send and receive with people who use email.... where they put in the send, instead of a phone number, they just put in an email address (go ahead, try it yourself, I know you want to )
As far as her sending her pictured emails to peoples phones, she just needs to know what carrier they use.. Then enter their #, and the rest of their
"email" address from this site : http://modmyi.com/wiki/index.php/MMS_Email_Addresses
She can avoid having to look up their address if the person who wants to share pictures with simply sends a message first to her phones email account using their phone... Then she just simple has to reply I know this is probally not the answer you were looking for, but it woudl work and save you having to pay the $35 for AT&T PDA Data....

I've never had a problem not having a data plan on my account. I bought it refurbished from AT&T and there was no data plan required for activation. I even temporarily added a data plan, then took it off again the next day just last month. I was never hassled or given the run-around at any point. Maybe you should just try changing the IMEI back to the Fuze and see what happens. It might also be a good idea to install NoData and disable the two data connections first, just so it never tries to connect.

I also dont want a data plan( cant afford it). My question is how can i make it not use wap for internet and only use wifi, when i do need it to receive data for mms. Thats included in my messaging plan but I have par per use internet and media net. I want to make sure that it doesnt connect to the network for internet or media net and I can only do internet through wifi. How do I do this? I tried just turning data off but it automatically turned back on when i hit the browser. How do i make it only use wifi? Thanks

ionizer12 said:
I also dont want a data plan( cant afford it). My question is how can i make it not use wap for internet and only use wifi, when i do need it to receive data for mms. Thats included in my messaging plan but I have par per use internet and media net. I want to make sure that it doesnt connect to the network for internet or media net and I can only do internet through wifi. How do I do this? I tried just turning data off but it automatically turned back on when i hit the browser. How do i make it only use wifi? Thanks
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You can always get a data block on your plan, so when you accidentally try to use data, it wont connect, thus making ATT not know you have a PDA... therefore wifi is the best and only option!

kmartin888 said:
I didnt have that problem with AT$T, actually.. i just recently put my wife's sim into my old fuze. with the exception of getting charged for unwanted data that got downloaded automatically, she has had no problems. she doesn't use the internet so it is fine. I just had AT&T block any data from her line. ( her line is no longer under contract, and i would like to keep it that way...)
I do actually have a question of my own... (didn't want to start a new thread)....
she does want to send and receive picture messages, we have unlimited messaging, but with the fuze you must have data in order to send or receive MMS. AT&T thinks she still has her old razr.
I would like to set her up with unlimited data plan for the razr, which is only like $10 per month, and was wondering if this would work with the fuze and what settings i might need to change to make it work.
thanks
keith
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I used to have an old Samsung flip that I actually flipped into two pieces. When I replaced it with a used Blackjack I simply went into AT&T and had them add the $30 MEdia Net package (Unlimited Data, Unlimited Msgs) because it showed that I still had the old Samsung flip. I had been using my Blackjack for about 2 months and there was no recognition. Now I'm using the Fuze with no problem. As long as your plan doesn't show that you are using a smartphone (IE you bought one from them) then you should be ok. I've been doing this for over a year with no problems.

In the same boat. Just bought a Rhodium & I'm wondering what I can use my Fuze for. I wanna give it to my dad whose line has no data, or use it as a back-up and cancel my handset insurance. Can I switch between devices on my sim which has a data plan? Can I use it as a wi-fi only browsing device(my Tilt 2 won't connect via wi-fi, it seems, the SIM having never been installed)? I could try data block on the account or data block software & put his SIM in. I thought the rationale for the data plan requirement was that the company could only make a profit, while subsidizing the price of these devices, by charging more than a fee for monthly voice service over the term of the contract and that, after the contract, the device is now mine(not rendered useless as even a phone should one not have a data plan), free and clear, to do with as I wish, or at least to use wi-fi without a plan(like my Tilt 2 is not doing)

When I got my FUZE in April, 2009 the saleswoman said that I could cancel the data plan in 6 months.. Online there was never an option to disable the data plan so I called and had it canceled that way. Now that it was canceled though, online does show that there is an option of no data plan. I bet though if I re-added the data plan that disable option will disappear again.
You can use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610657
to block your data from ever being used. I use this to turn off AT&T ISP GPRS and MEdia Net. You can still send/receive texts and go online through WiFi.
@TheGlowingCurve, I don't believe just being an unlocked phone helps, my previous phones are all unlocked now but if I put my SIM in them again, att.com immediately changes my account's phone picture and model to the phone the SIM card is in. They know ALL about what phone you're using.
EDIT: I've never understood the relevance of http://www.htcclassaction.org/ to the Raphael. That site says there is no 3D acceleration or acceleration of videos and whatnot but of course there is acceleration. There is an ATI driver cab and it allows running of 3D programs like Diamond Hologram and COD2, not to mention TouchFLO3D and Sense UI. I don't even think that driver cab is needed because I honestly don't even install it. Video acceleration may not work in CorePlayer, but the solution is easy, don't use CorePlayer! The included Windows Media Player and Album programs are both accelerated and capable of playing H264 videos smoothly. The problems mentioned in http://www.htcclassaction.org/ have nothing to do with our phone and in the site's updates (which are all at least 2 years old!) it even says the Touch Diamond at release had 3D capabilities already.
I'm pretty sure your issues with the FUZE have to do with WM itself, not with HTC's phone.

I too had a tilt, but i put the sim card in teh new fuze i bought. Both of my phones have no data.
I got some bull**** out of them in december when i asked. But i called in the other day, and it was like oh yeah np. No more data.
Because i was a cingular customer im grandfathered in. If you had a PDA prior to november of last year, you also are grandfathered in.
dont take no for an answer.
Just to be clear, ive now shut data off and turned it on on the fuze alone 6 times. LOL

freekquency said:
I too had a tilt, but i put the sim card in teh new fuze i bought. Both of my phones have no data.
I got some bull**** out of them in december when i asked. But i called in the other day, and it was like oh yeah np. No more data.
Because i was a cingular customer im grandfathered in. If you had a PDA prior to november of last year, you also are grandfathered in.
dont take no for an answer.
Just to be clear, ive now shut data off and turned it on on the fuze alone 6 times. LOL
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So you bought the FUZE after November of last year?
Did you have to call them each time to shut down the data plan? Is the charge for that prorated?

lol so now that AT&T removed their unlimited data plan and introduced limited data plans, what happens with future smart phones? Will AT&T require the higher priced data plan?
EDIT: http://gizmodo.com/5555561/hey-att-we-want-rollover-bytes

i just got a fuze from the MP and bam less than 3 hours after taking my sim card out of my pantech impact which had the unlim data and text on our family plan ..they nailed me for the fuze and changed me to the 25 dollar smartphone plan .... should i switch back to the impact and just tell them i was fixing a freinds phone and shut off the data connection on the fuze and get the 30 dollar plan again or wont it work

Using the Fuze with no data plan and using WiFi.
Well there's actually some things to keep in mind here. Being that I have had some experience with AT&T smartphones for busiensses, I know that this is a sore spot to their network users. If you're using a PDA and haven't switched the IMEI online, you're bound to receive a bill from AT&T if you're using the WAP settings from the stock AT&T ROM build. To get around this, unlock your SIM, change the IMEI online, use NoData, and set up your phone to search and prompt you for WiFi hotspots. Turn the phone off or to Airplane mode also from the connection manager. There are plenty that are free once you're in their area, or near an open private WIFI network area. Simply connect, and send all of your data via Wifi connections. This will keep the device from auto-detecting the AT&T WAP and/or using the WAP settings.
One extra step that I take is to erase your WAP data completely from the connection manager so that it's not automatically recognizing the AT&T network settings. You can then choose your settings when needed using any GSM network anywhere in the world, but be careful! This can be expensive if you're not watching your settings. Unlocking your SIM is a MUST! If you're smart, you can set up a T-Mobile prepay account to use the partner(AT&T) GSM network when needed, if needed. This will normally cost you $.99 per day to use.
I hope this helps you better understand the WAP settings. One note.....trash the stock AT&T ROM for one that you'll find here on this site. There have been many that have worked hard to modify this device so that you can fully experience the device fully.

ok i bought my fuze from someone here at xda and he wasnt sure if it is unlocked or not
how can i find out i dont have access to a tmobile sim ..how do i change the imei online
and if i dont have a data connection will the time and weather still update and im using Tael rom ..the weird thing is i had a fuze that got stolen that i was using on the 30 dollar unlimited plan that i singed up for in feb2010 when i got service them and got the samsung impression free then switched to my fuze and they never caught on but like i said in my post above when my gf hooked us up on the family plan with the impacts ..when i switched to my new fuze they got me quick ..and this fuze is setup the same way as my previuos fuze

FYI. TB no 4g, 3g or data going in and out

Apparently there are issues with TB losing 4g or 3g, most commonly when power cycling or at random. A battery pull might help but the only temporary fix I have found is to do a factory data reset which will bring back data services however it is by no means a complete resolve from what I have found. Speaking with a verizon tech I know these issues have been lifted up to fix whatever on the network side is causing this issue. So if you find yourself without data and a reset is not to big of a deal (which for me its not) I would recommend just resetting the device and then refrain from powering down your device until it is fixed

Do a factory reset
That worked well for me.
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I did a reset, pulled the battery, and then spent three hours on the phone with tech support. Eventually I ended up tethering to my Evo, connecting the market, and downloading an app called "restart connections." It works very well.
On the plus side, you don't even have to power down the device when you use it.
Just thought I'd let you know about it, as it's much easier and more convenient.

I just got my TB yesterday coming from an EVO and Sprint's nightmare of a network. Phone lost data after about 3 hours and I had to Hard reset. I don't get it. I tried everything else. Airplane mode, pull battery, turn data off and on... ect. Reset fixes it. Love the phone it's WAY faster then my rooted EVO with sprint lovers ROM!!! The power cord hookup on the side is an epic fail tho. You cant use the kickstand with it plugged in!!

I must be lucky, I live in a suburb of Chicago, and go all over the burbs and the city for work, and I have had no signal issues. Actually, I am in my office now on the 33rd floor downtown, my coworker stopped by to check out the Tbolt, and we did a speed test, I got 5800kbs down and 5600kbs up. On 3g, I barely had a signal in my office, and would get 200 -300 kbs down in my office. Win! Plus, I have 2-4 bars consistent up here. LTE is awesome.

It wasn't a loss of signal. It lost internet connection. It would talk and text fine but no data.

Sen.droid said:
Apparently there are issues with TB losing 4g or 3g, most commonly when power cycling or at random. A battery pull might help but the only temporary fix I have found is to do a factory data reset which will bring back data services however it is by no means a complete resolve from what I have found. Speaking with a verizon tech I know these issues have been lifted up to fix whatever on the network side is causing this issue. So if you find yourself without data and a reset is not to big of a deal (which for me its not) I would recommend just resetting the device and then refrain from powering down your device until it is fixed
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This is extremely amusing. Yesterday I spent the majority of the day trying to find people with the same issues I was having and I couldn't so this morning I woke up and I said screw it, its time to do a factory reset and that worked. Today I get online and there are about 10 different sites with people reporting the same thing lol. Anyway OP is right do a factory reset. I tried just about everything else and this was the only thing that worked. For those that don't want to have to setup their phone again don't be too worried about this. The device restores most applications and settings in said applications.

I did a factory reset and it did indeed get me data restored in my house. I'm still confused however because other people in my house have VZW and have full coverage all over the house including the basement which is where my room is. 1 has an HTC incredible, and the other a droid 2. 3-4 bars of 3G no problem. For me though i get mostly 1-2 bars without 1X and sometimes with, maybe 1 bar of 3G if i leave the phone still and dont move it. No 4G. I've tried changing the settings to 3G only, or 4G only and stuff like that. Nothing. I've also switched under settings ---> wireless and netorks ---> mobile networks ---> system select ---> changed it from automatic to home only which some people have said worked for them.
On top of all that my phone thinks im in queens LOL! Im just outside of washington dc. Ah the growing pains of a new phone! Now, when im outside my house... Thats night and day. Phone works perfectly! I get great 4G speeds all over my area. Never a problem. Hopefully VZW is aware of the issue and will resolve it shortly.

Hello i have a stock tbolt... I just rooted and clockwork my question is if I do a factory reset will I lose root or will I have any other issue thanks in advance
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Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks > Acces Point Names > "menu" Reset to Default. What really sucks is when you are on 4G Wifi hosting several devices and you loose Mobile Network. People look at you and think "looser" while they are mooching of your 4G radio....
Works like a charm. Had to do this on my previous AT&T HTC Inspire.

Im in Philly and had no problems today.......

what a bummer. got the phone in the mail this morning and spent all day setting it up. just had to factory reset to get my data back. tried all of the suggestions in this thread and the other one and nothing would bring it back.

Meh, I hate this. Just got this phone today and no data on it while moms iPhone has perfect 3g. I am just gonna wait for some fix though since don't want to reset my phone every time I turn it off.
At least I have wifi

This loss of data issue is really starting to piss me off. I just spent the last hour setting my phone up again after doing another factory reset. Has Verison even said that it's an issue they're working on?

WilliamStern said:
This loss of data issue is really starting to piss me off. I just spent the last hour setting my phone up again after doing another factory reset. Has Verison even said that it's an issue they're working on?
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Take it with a grain of salt but the guy at the VZW (official, not a fake store) store last night said he heard about an upcoming software update within the next few weeks. I highly doubt that, but the guy did actually seem to be on the up and up with what he knew about phones and technology, he didn't come across as one of those "dismissive, just trying to sell you everything under the sun" asswipes.
I sure do hope they get this resolved soon. I have no data in my own house, meanwhile other roomates, all on verizon have damn near perfect 3G coverage inside and hell 3G is good enough for me even though Verizon says im fully covered for 4G. I'll take 3G until they get all that fixed. Just give me something! Meanwhile my old G2 would get full service in house as well. I'm almost stuck having to still use that for a while and i probably will hold on to it for another month or two.

this is driving me crazy - I had 4G the first few days, but then kept getting the cycle 1x, 3g, 4g but with no data most of the time late last week (LA area). Then yesterday I had 4G but no data, and finally got it to connect to 4G after several reboots and cycles. Now it won't connect to 4G at all (in an area that had solid 4G early last week). I have done factory data resets, pulled battery, forced 3G, LTE and both in the service menu, pulled sim card several times, forced home and auto networks and data roaming on and off. I've about had it.
Either the 4G local towers have gone dark since Saturday morning, or my phone just won't connect to the LTE signal. At least with the EVO when I was stationary in a 4G tower area I would get and keep solid 4G and data all the time, and handoffs to 3G were quick and smooth. The radios and/or network in this phone are not ready for prime time.

Same story as everyone else (I've tried everything--phone isn't rooted). No 4g in my area, so I don't expect that. What I do expect is to get solid 3g when my friend next to me on his droid is getting solid 3g. I'm stuck with 1x, and even that goes in and out...

same here. I think it's more of a provisioning issue than an issue with the device.
I'm pretty sure restoring default doesn't fix problem as I tried going from one ROM to the next and all are getting the same thing.

zeavott said:
same here. I think it's more of a provisioning issue than an issue with the device.
I'm pretty sure restoring default doesn't fix problem as I tried going from one ROM to the next and all are getting the same thing.
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Had this same issue on my X. This is a network issue, IMO. Either that, or Qualcomm has some 'splainin' to do...

How to FIX your 3G Microcell & FAILED SMS - Confirmed WORKING!

FINALLY A FIX FOR 4G DEVICES MICROCELL FAILED SMS!!![ Edited ] .Options
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OK like most of you who are just about FEDUP with trying to get your microcell device to work properly with your 4G devices.
I found a fix that not only works like a charm...but delivers text FASTER & at 4G speeds via MICROCELL.
I am using a SAMSUNG INFUSE and prior to the below. Nearly 1 out of every 4 text messages failed.
First let be known the MICROCELL does not like MOTOROLA cable modems. For some reason it stalls, ATT is aware of this. DOCSIS 3.0 modems is where the problem stems.
THE FIX ---
CONVERT YOUR MICROCELL TO A WIRELESS MICROCELL
NETGEAR UNIVERSAL WIRELESS ADAPTER WNCE2001
When hooked directly into this adapter, it handshakes a CLEAN and proper wifi signal.
NOT only does the MICROCELL connect faster, but it sends and receives faster!
OR you can also use the NETGEAR ADAPETR as a WIFI bridge to hook into another router...
in which then you can hook your MICROCELL into the router. That is how I have it hooked up.
I can asure you this will solve all your problems, your FIVE BARS will stay on ALL the time.
The above spoofs the microcell thinking its communicating with anoher device and not the MOTO MODEM.
in 72 HOURS, i have yet to get ONE drop, or ONE lost SIGNAL. I have an unlimited DATA plan and have already watched various NETFLIX streaming movies and crystal clear. SMS messaging is BLAZING FAST!
ALSO....another secret.
CANT GET A IP ADDRESS CONNECTION....OR AWAITING TOO LONG WHEN RESETTING THE MICROCELL.
Speed it up. Have your MICROCELL connected and do a bunch of speedtests at
speedtest____
as this will ignite the MICROCELL to forcefully find an IP address.
This always works for me.
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HOPE THIS HELPS.
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I have been pulling my hair out with my clients Microcell and ATT Microcell support is the worst I have ever encountered. He has a Microcell in CT and one in SC and the SC device seems to work no problem. But I am on the second MC in CT and it works only intermittently when connecting devices to it. I have to turn my Infuse off then on before I can get a connection to it and it never notifies me on the Infuse that it is connected I only know because I get five bars when I turn the phone back on and normally I only get one bar. His wife's IPhone does notify of Tue MCell connection and I have yet to get his Blackberry Bold 9700 to connect. His BB connects to the SC MCell but not to the CT one. I may try this hack to see if it performs better. Thanks for the heads up.
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This is why when I buy a house, if coverage sucks, I'm going with a Wilson amp.
(I have a Wilson amp in my car, it's amazing.)

mrbogusbaxter said:
I have an unlimited DATA plan and have already watched various NETFLIX streaming movies and crystal clear.
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you know you risk getting throttled if using to much data on an unlimited plan in the comming months right? im just curious as to what your reasoning would be to not use wifi if avilable, think about it when using data on the mcell your just billing your account for essentially using wifi. with your data plan, while unlimited, att has stated they will start throttling the top 5% of data users on the unlimited plan.

Tomdg07 said:
you know you risk getting throttled if using to much data on an unlimited plan in the comming months right? im just curious as to what your reasoning would be to not use wifi if avilable, think about it when using data on the mcell your just billing your account for essentially using wifi. with your data plan, while unlimited, att has stated they will start throttling the top 5% of data users on the unlimited plan.
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Actually I did check a few days ago for as I have been using this method for quite some time (since Feb on wireless) and ATT have no problems with any of the bandwidth. unlimited is unlimited unless i am draining the pool (so to say) hardcore. They havent said one thing.
Now mind you I really dont watch NETFLIX all that often... ;
But i did let a few movies run through purposely on my infuse just to see how strong this connection would stay and or hold.
Shockingly....it was the most stable I hgave ever seen the Microcell behave.
I figure this..Sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands cuz we all know ATT aint coming to the table...

Dual Band adapter
I have found a newer version of the Netgear universal adapter (Model WNCE3001) that supports dual bands. I have a dual band router at home and would like to try the Microcell using the 5GHz band of my router. Has anyone tried this or can you confirm that the WNCE3001 will work just like the single band WNCE2001 mentioned in the OP???

Not working for me
I thought I had struck gold when I found this thread, but I was still a little skeptical. I immediately ordered a Netgear adapter. I received it yesterday and installed it without a hitch. Unfortunately, I have the same problems I did when it was wired directly into my DLINK DIR-655 router with Motorola SB6120 DOCSIS 3.0 modem. Even though it shows full bars, the actual data connection seems to drop out. If I don't use the phone for a while, I cannot get an internet connection without turning flight mode on and off, or rebooting the phone. I also have the intermittent issue where sometimes and SMS goes right through, but other, it fails 3-4 times before it will send. This exactly how the microcell behaved when hardwired into the router. I even got a replacement Microcell a week ago, which seems to require fewer reboots to work consistently.
I don't know if it worked for anyone else, or if there's some other secret configuration trick, but I've had no change in performance. I'm running Emanciapation ROM if that helps any. I have no issues at work, where I have 4-5 bars of signal without a microcell, so I'm pretty sure its not the phone/ROM combination.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

Not to bring up a dead horse here, but I have this issue that is AWFUL. we are on teh seam between 3g and edge. I get good edge bars, but minimal 3g. we got a microcell and it works WONDERFULLY for my captivate but on the infuse, it fails more texts than it sends. I dont have a motorola router. I have comcast cable modem with a netgear wireless router. I get the issue when the router is bypassed or not. SUCKS!. anyone know if another fix or has tried this with Comcast and it worked?

Sorry pickupman66, the only solution is to get another phone. From all the research I've done on the web, it appears that the Infuse requires a data connection to send SMS...and for some reason, the Mcell either blocks the ports required or doesn't have them so SMS can never go through consistently. I usually had to disconnect from Wifi to get the SMS to send. Very weird. But I fixed the problem by getting an unlocked Galaxy Nexus. It works perfectly with the microcell that never worked well with the Infuse. I can send and receive texts and data just like I was on a normal tower.

Alas. I may have it! First deleted all apn settings and then followed those in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1791526
Go down to the 9-15 update and do that too.
This worked to send and receive MMS and SMS. But service was terrible. No bars when my sg3 had at least two in my other hand. Soooooo. Modem time. Went here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342978
And downloaded 4 modems. One was the sgs UVKJ6. Bars were comparable to my sg3. My sg3 works on the microcell at work. Lets try that here at home. I fired up the microcell, it rebooted once (maybe a software update) and when it came back. I blitzed my phone. Sent 10 texts back to back with no fails. Sent and rcvd 2 MMS images. All went thru. No fails.
That modem is below.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18201177/shared infuse modems/SGS 03 CWM-UVKJ6-Modem.zip
sent from my Galaxy with Tapatalk 2

Help with 3g Microcell
Had TWC modem, have Samsung Galaxy 4g and black AT& T Microcell. Dropped calls for one year. ( only cell, no land line)
Back & forth with ATT and Time Warner- in the end got new microcell and new TWC modem. No Improvement. Was told Microcell was not compatible with TWC 1670 Arris Modem. Purchased Netgear C3700 modem, paid guru to hook all that back up, totally out $200on new equipment, still dropped calls. AT&T is no help. This house has radiant barrier in the attic which is probably the original cause, but hoped all this equipment would get me back up and running as I work from home. Does this "FIX" apply to my situation.?