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Free Internet on US Tmobile MDA

Hi everyone
I just wanted to know if someone has tried a prepaid sim on the mda and used the internet through EDGE. For some reason i get free internet and I just have $10 on my account with no charge to it. post if you get the same result.
Update: Was told about this Free WAP on T-Mobile!
But they talk about having free wap but its actually free gprs so you can use PIE, Opera for ppc,
Win media and listen to streams or anything that can use gprs (edge)
and also you can use modem link or internet sharing for your PC
Update 2: This will only work for US T-Mobile because of the updating to 3G of the network. So it may work for a limited time. < Refining EDGE
Update 3: Can also work on contract sim cards but i advise to use at own risk tmobile my start to charge you and it can get expensive if you do not have a data plan. I have been told that sometimes this may not work But will work on prepaid sim cards
Update 4: this will work on any phone but you need to have a different web browser like opera mini. It may also stop working but will work again if you disconnect and connect again right then or in a different time.
Settings to use: Cellular line (GPRS) and wap.voicestream.com
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aboutthemind said:
3G roll out is already in the air. when it comes to net working i go with hours spent under neath my old server room.
By the way update news flash t mobile is not hearing any of this i fact that stock is all that matters rember business thats what comes first i'm for you believe me pure respect but you would think i just got here.
\Ok t-mobile back end site
http://www.t-mobile.com/promotions/samsungblastlp.aspx?WT.mc_n=MesgPromoLink_SpecPg&WT.mc_t=OnsiteAd
Plug this today if you are complianing this is a capped plan now what ever you do it doesn't matter. the compute will bill for what you have
Move this to the front so i don't have to deal with the hype
fact free net never went down
means no man down if no mms was being used or dialed in.
Fact i still cant get out on some phones i am cingular so t-mobile takes a bit longer for me
Plane straight t-zones $5.99 no mms cabs t-zones
216.155.165.50:8080 done
Plan t-zones online only catch 22 must change phone to a non pda.
I am OK with this move for one reason. the minute you make a call the system will flip your phone status back to the beautiful stock photo of what ever you have
If you don't understand me well guess what i don't look up when i type i do look up when i sign paychecks so just ask your friend moderator and this goes right into th45 move chart. 7 years and still cant typo as fast as i think
My theory is this i still am having problems with outh the cabs like im handi cap so that mens that the mms plays a role when you dial it in dont ask some else figure it out because our cabs work but i always change to 8080
the same source and my coaching argues with me on this stupid subject.
everyone here that has a opinion should also take into consideration that mathematics and reason does not make the world go round in the us its money homes and cars we will leave that discussion for one of my 100 seminars i power train at.
But 3g is already their but cingular never owned or should i say lease the heavier sites up top they bought the newbie national package. So the reason t mobile is not as deep is because cingular most likely resigned a separate deal that would not be part of a locked contract. So t mobile has to buy it on thier own.
But 3g only works in certain areas like blocks but when t hooks up it shakes financially t-mobile will wait until the market moves an inch the hype is not 3g for the 97 percent of the world only the fans. You will see more picture and video before speed is a priority.
hence the reason 2000 laptops are a nickel now. i see a ten quad coming why some body shooting the titanic nope i guarantee you some asshole in chicago saw that the glutens meaning the us will be picture crazy and share your picture and make your family trip a movie so they are making gaming look like a intermediate sport
good news better for the individual that wants a nuke for hardware cause last time i checked Intel core duo 2 were not $599. wait a month the good stuff will just get cheaper.
T-mobile could give to ****s about anybody back dooring a connection. Half of the reason it limited is to cut down on support the sales guy has no affiliation with the web and has no idea that his company is like the airlines trying to eliminate human error and involvement so thats why all cell phone company's act like mac users when u walk in. Mention the website your done.
You guys 2 ways to go media $9.95 or t-zones flip the phone online to a non pda chief go ahead and tear this up copy paste what ever get to the front so we don't up set the ladies.
I hope today we can 3 issues Dr shaps VOIP your smash and grab t-mobile issue and my feeling of un-appreciation. I like the fact that i am a member its a good thing i love roman history and i take that as a compliment. I thought junior wood chuck suited me.
But what do i know
except xda is not to be disrespected and no matter this is a good place.
ah screw it why should i change my style somebody eklse spell scheck this i need to go to frys and buy the left side make sure we handle this voip that works fine issue.
I like that one
t-mobile will not wait much longer but i wa
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gonna try and post
I am gonna go get a prepaid card and try this. and post my findings soon.

Need someone to test this? please thanks in advance
ps. also try in other phones if possible and i think it dosent matter how much money you have

Go to the PrePAID thread in Howardforum, it's been happening for awhile now. I am roaming in Vancouver and I still have free WAP speed internet.

story said:
Go to the PrePAID thread in Howardforum, it's been happening for awhile now. I am roaming in Vancouver and I still have free WAP speed internet.
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Thanks for telling me

I read somewhere on howardforums about a week or so ago about this. From what I saw posted, this is only temporary because T-Mobile is making some upgrades on their data network.
I guess for the time being it’s just easier for them to open the whole data network to everyone while making whatever changes/upgrades.
My guess would be its some kind of upgrade to the internet access authentication system, and since that authentication system is down during the upgrade, the smoothest way to continue data access for the time being is to just give it to everyone. Just a guess though =P

I think its for there new 3G network. but for now ill enjoy the free service. Hope they dont charge when they finish there upgrade.

ultraprimeomega said:
Hi all
I just wanted to know if someone has tried a prepaid sim on the mda and used the internet through EDGE. For some reason i get free internet and I just have $10 on my account with no charge to it. post if you get the same result.
Update: Was told about this Free WAP on T-Mobile!
But they talk about having free wap but its actually free gprs so you can use PIE, Opera for ppc,
Win media and listen to streams or anything that can use gprs (edge)
and also you can use modem link or internet sharing for your PC
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What settings are you using? I had it for a while on my unlocked cingular 8525 using t-mobile prepaid but I lost my settings when I hard resetted and everything I have tried so far hasn't worked. BTW do you have it working where u can use WIFI or GPRS without having to change your settings under connections everytime?

cjchriscj said:
What settings are you using? I had it for a while on my unlocked cingular 8525 using t-mobile prepaid but I lost my settings when I hard resetted and everything I have tried so far hasn't worked. BTW do you have it working where u can use WIFI or GPRS without having to change your settings under connections everytime?
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just use the regular tmobile gprs settings and i dont change anything in the connection settings

ultraprimeomega said:
just use the regular tmobile gprs settings and i dont change anything in the connection settings
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Umm, yea..., I forgot the settings, and since its a cingular 8525 it doesnt come with them, could you post them please?

cjchriscj said:
Umm, yea..., I forgot the settings, and since its a cingular 8525 it doesnt come with them, could you post them please?
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i dont know my settings right now because im in mexico using a different carrier
but you can try this settings that i got from http://tmobileus.wdsglobal.com/phonefirst
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Settings have been redone and work for me
Setting up the handset
1. Tap Start.
2. Tap Settings.
3. Tap on the Connections tab.
4. Tap the Connections icon.
5. Tap Add a new modem connection under T-Mobile GPRS or whatever name you have
6. Enter Tmobile Data in the Enter a name for the connection field.
7. Tap to select Cellular Line (GPRS) from the Select a modem drop down list.
8. Tap Next.
9. Enter wap.voicestream.com in the Access point name field.
10. Tap Next.
11. Tap Finish.
12. Tap Edit my proxy server under T-Mobile GPRS or whatever name you have
13. Tap to check This network connects to the Internet.
Hope this helps you

ultraprimeomega said:
I think its for there new 3G network
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No way, they havent even gotton everyone who off the spectrum's yet.

I have a T-mobile prepaid sim and I get free internet. I don't think its edge speed though because it does take a while for the web pages to load. I think its wap speed. If you are getting edge speeds without paying, I guess your lucky. No charge.

it goes faster if you use it on a computer but when using it on the phone it goes slower. i read somewhere that edge has 4 time slots and could go at higher speeds if all 4 time slots are connected but thats in good weather and nothing between the phone and the tower. i think its in wikipedia.com that i read this.

I'm getting it too...wooohooo! Much slower than wireless but it's great to update weather and rss feeds. Thanks to everyone for all the info.

ultraprimeomega said:
Hi everyone
I just wanted to know if someone has tried a prepaid sim on the mda and used the internet through EDGE. For some reason i get free internet and I just have $10 on my account with no charge to it. post if you get the same result.
Update: Was told about this Free WAP on T-Mobile!
But they talk about having free wap but its actually free gprs so you can use PIE, Opera for ppc,
Win media and listen to streams or anything that can use gprs (edge)
and also you can use modem link or internet sharing for your PC
Update 2: This will only work for US T-Mobile because of the updating to 3G of the network. So it may work for a limited time.
Update 3: Can also work on contract sim cards but i advise to use at own risk tmobile my start to charge you and it can get expensive if you do not have a data plan. I have been told that sometimes this may not work.
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thanks for that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Is it still good/working or they blocked it already?
Thanks,
Tom

I get it free too!
I just posted this in the networking area ... I too am getting FREE connectivity .. without a prepaid card.
I do not have a data plan, am on a regular family plan, and am located in Salt Lake City, UT. I am also out of contract.
I flashed my MDA to Faria's AKU 3.3 8mb ROM. Set my carrier to "T-Mobile WAP", and voila! I get free access.
I freaked the first time it started up, and was downloading data.. thinking I was going to get a big fat bill.
I called customer service, and long story short, they told me that if I could connect, I was lucky, because it is a fluke, and I would be shortly disconnected thereafter. I was also told that I would NOT be charged.
So ... there you have it. Free (for a limited time) data access on T-Mobile.

swingheim said:
I just posted this in the networking area ... I too am getting FREE connectivity .. without a prepaid card.
I do not have a data plan, am on a regular family plan, and am located in Salt Lake City, UT. I am also out of contract.
I flashed my MDA to Faria's AKU 3.3 8mb ROM. Set my carrier to "T-Mobile WAP", and voila! I get free access.
I freaked the first time it started up, and was downloading data.. thinking I was going to get a big fat bill.
I called customer service, and long story short, they told me that if I could connect, I was lucky, because it is a fluke, and I would be shortly disconnected thereafter. I was also told that I would NOT be charged.
So ... there you have it. Free (for a limited time) data access on T-Mobile.
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I think the representatives dont know about the upgrade until there almost finish upgrading. as i been seeing its been a long time, maybe since 2005 that people have reported this. It makes me think that they are updating all of the network. that will also means that they will be taking out 3g phones and i could finally use my htc tytn on tmobile for internet instead of cingular.

swingheim said:
I just posted this in the networking area ... I too am getting FREE connectivity .. without a prepaid card.
I do not have a data plan, am on a regular family plan, and am located in Salt Lake City, UT. I am also out of contract.
I flashed my MDA to Faria's AKU 3.3 8mb ROM. Set my carrier to "T-Mobile WAP", and voila! I get free access.
I freaked the first time it started up, and was downloading data.. thinking I was going to get a big fat bill.
I called customer service, and long story short, they told me that if I could connect, I was lucky, because it is a fluke, and I would be shortly disconnected thereafter. I was also told that I would NOT be charged.
So ... there you have it. Free (for a limited time) data access on T-Mobile.
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I am hoping that i don't get charged for this right now but i have no data plan and am trying it. Fingers crossed.
I am also wondering when it is going to end so I won't get charged for data usage

Got Fuze - How to get MEdia Max Back?

I bought a Fuze at no commitment today, and after I left the store, I noticed that the sales rep took off my MEdia Max 200 Bundle and replaced it with a PDA Plan. I had asked him not to touch my account.
So how can I get the MEdia Max bundle back? I have been poking around online in my account and can't seem to find a way. Any help would be appreciated.

have u tried puttin your sim in another phone ..changingit to the medis max online and then switching the sim back into the fuze??..idk ..jus a thought

Try to convince them that you're using an old phone again...otherwise I don't think you can get it back. Talked to one of the sales people today and he said they're really cracking down on that lately. I still have Media Max, so we'll se how long it lasts.
*Decided to check my phone before bed and I can't get a data connection any more...the salesman said they were actively blocking medianet data plans on these phones, looks like he may have been right.

Bummer. My old phone is a Tilt, and before that an 8525.

Manage your account online?
1) Go to https://www.wireless.att.com/olam/dashboardAction.olamexecute
2) Change device to something like the Shine or Vu
3) Change data plan to MediaNet Unlimited/Max
Doesn't require calling or otherwise lying to a person over the phone.
I can't say/promise this will work with the Fuze -- but it did with the Tilt.
I personally like AT&T's service, so I'm glad to pay an extra $10/month for internet service. YMMV so I respect others decision to pay less if the service isn't working well for you.

BBM-Lee said:
Manage your account online?
1) Go to https://www.wireless.att.com/olam/dashboardAction.olamexecute
2) Change device to something like the Shine or Vu
3) Change data plan to MediaNet Unlimited/Max
Doesn't require calling or otherwise lying to a person over the phone.
I can't say/promise this will work with the Fuze -- but it did with the Tilt.
I personally like AT&T's service, so I'm glad to pay an extra $10/month for internet service. YMMV so I respect others decision to pay less if the service isn't working well for you.
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I just checked this in my account options and switched my phone from the Tilt to a Samsung A117, but the MediaMax bundles/options aren't available. It still only lists PDA plans, with a minimum add-on of $30/month for unlimited data and $35/month minimum if you're looking for a bundled text option (200 message). Things aren't looking good if they do a check on my features when I upgrade to the Fuze. Has anybody else had their MediaMax taken away/replaced who switched to a Fuze?

This is odd but a nice surprise...after my data stopped working altogether last night I checked it again this afternoon when I had time and noticed it was back working again. I checked my account online and it still has MediaMax, so I'm not sure what my issue was.

If you have an old phone that is supposed to be on Media Max like SMT5600, put the SIM in that phone, make a call, and also open up a webpage.
Now try to go online account and see if you can change the dataplan.
If not call customer care and tell them you have decided to return the Fuze and are now back on your old phone and would like MediaMax put back on the way it was before.
That's what I did and it worked for me

If you all do actually change your pda data to media net. you WILL NOT recieve your rebate, for those that have already done it, kiss that rebate goodbye. For those who have not, wait till you get your rebate then do the sim swap data change.

georgi55 said:
If you have an old phone that is supposed to be on Media Max like SMT5600, put the SIM in that phone, make a call, and also open up a webpage.
Now try to go online account and see if you can change the dataplan.
If not call customer care and tell them you have decided to return the Fuze and are now back on your old phone and would like MediaMax put back on the way it was before.
That's what I did and it worked for me
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There not stupid, you have a 30 day return policy, cust care can see when you got it (its updated on your account) and if you have returned it, by the date of contract.

The same exact thing happened to me at the store. The rep. told me he was "leaving my account exactly as it is" and when I got home, I had no data plan attached. I angrily called care and demanded my Media Max plan back and was able to get it back but noticed the next day that my data plan seemed to be bottlenecked. In the course of calling tech support for help, they saw that I was using the FUZE, told me that I needed to change my plan for it to work, and then changed it. Low and behold, my FUZE is working as planned.
I may or may not try to switch back at some point to the MediaMax plan since I do have an old 3G handset lying around.
For those of you who are going to attempt to add an older phone IMEI to your account, make sure that your device is 3G capable or your account won't get the "UMTS Attach" feature which automatically gets added when you add a 3G IMEI.

i have a few different old phones lieing around and everytime i put my SIM card in one of those phones and visit the ATT website my device is automatically updated. However, i still can't enable media net. Does media net only work for the phones listed on the ATT site for media net?

Why is MediaMAX more desirable than the PDA + 200 text plan? Aren't both unlimited data and 200 text for $35 a month?

MediaMax is $20/month

You can get MediaMax with unlimited data and text for $35/month whereas the same with the PDA plan is $50/month

KD8DNS said:
If you all do actually change your pda data to media net. you WILL NOT recieve your rebate, for those that have already done it, kiss that rebate goodbye. For those who have not, wait till you get your rebate then do the sim swap data change.
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So basically what you are saying is, if your Media Max plan is taken away (and I do have one, using it on my current Treo 680 happily) when you begin using the Fuze you just have to suck up the fees for the high PDA data plan until you get your rebate back months later, then at that point stick the sim in another phone and try to switch it back?

Call me crazy, but I have a feeling that AT&T has implemented certain tracking features with this phone that were never present before, such as limiting internet access and being able to fully track usage and data plan automatically with this phone.
Reasoning:
1. I logged into my account online and where I usually see the feature "UMTS Attach", it was replaced with "Tracking Feature UMTS" from the date that I got the FUZE.
2. When I switched back to MediaMax instead of the PDA Personal Plan, my internet worked flawlessly until later on that day when I was getting bottlenecked speeds of 25 kbps max until I called care and re-added the PDA Personal plan.
3. HSDPA disabled by default and the normal reg. changes which would stick no longer function properly.
4. MUCH tighter feature control on this handset than on any handset prior to it: GPS doesn't even work until you download AT&T Navigator, TF3D is completely contstricted by AT&T customizations, Opera comes with AT&T proxies hidden buried in settings etc.
Overall, I think that AT&T has worked very closely with HTC on this phone in particular to reel in advanced users in an attempt to keep them in their walled garden.
Thoughts?

Godrockdj said:
So basically what you are saying is, if your Media Max plan is taken away (and I do have one, using it on my current Treo 680 happily) when you begin using the Fuze you just have to suck up the fees for the high PDA data plan until you get your rebate back months later, then at that point stick the sim in another phone and try to switch it back?
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What im saying is when you upgrade to ANY PDA, the condition of getting your rebate is the correct feature. I.E. Pda Personal. When the rebate department check's to make sure its still active and the rate hasn't changed as well as the feature then your rebate is processed. If any of the required criteria has changed you will get a postcard saying DENIED. You really need to read the conditions of the rebate witch is stated on the rebate itself.
As far as the Rep changing the feature, this is a gray area. The upgrade of activation WILL NOT allow you to proceed unless the PDA personal feature is added. So in case of upgrade this is why most of you are seeing media net taken off. The rep is required to tell you if a feature is going to be changed, however when it is changed the WSA (wireless service agreement) you sign before leaving states changes made. Calling and griping will get you no were, due to the fact it is impossible to change back to media net if there is a PDA tagged to the account.
So you have a option, keep the PDA personal feature (it works better than media net anyway) Or don't get a PDA. However, when you go do your upgrade, new line, add on whatever. Make sure you know what you are getting. You would not get a credit card without knowing the intrest rate first would you?
You can do the SIM swap trick but wait till you get the rebate.
As far as the feature tracking and control on the phone itself. For the love of god FLASH A ROM. Most senior members and ROM cookers that have ripped the stock rom apart have a general idea why im saying this. FLASH FLASH and FLASH some more. AT&T really did a number on this rom!!!!

iboj007 said:
Call me crazy, but I have a feeling that AT&T has implemented certain tracking features with this phone that were never present before, such as limiting internet access and being able to fully track usage and data plan automatically with this phone.
4. MUCH tighter feature control on this handset than on any handset prior to it: GPS doesn't even work until you download AT&T Navigator, TF3D is completely contstricted by AT&T customizations, Opera comes with AT&T proxies hidden buried in settings etc.
Thoughts?
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My GPS worked fine out of the box, as well as others who have done reviews.

I can help you!
pmcall said:
I bought a Fuze at no commitment today, and after I left the store, I noticed that the sales rep took off my MEdia Max 200 Bundle and replaced it with a PDA Plan. I had asked him not to touch my account.
So how can I get the MEdia Max bundle back? I have been poking around online in my account and can't seem to find a way. Any help would be appreciated.
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I am a store manager for an AT&T authorized retailer (private owned). PM me you email address and i will contact you there and i will switch everything over for you.

ATTN ALL AT&T Customers....Check your internet package!!!

Ok so I had a temp phone before I got my Tilt. Had unlimited internet on it and everything and when I switched to the Tilt I upgraded my internet plan to the $29.99.
Well seems like it didnt actually get onto the plan. My internet got cut off today and I called to figure out what was going on and it was because my bill was too much....i had racked up almost $3,200 in per kb internet usage.
Everything is being taken care of and I will not have to pay that, but I just figured I would just inform yall. If you have the incorrect internet plan you will get charged per kb used and AT&T will not contact you.

They really should contact you if anything on your plan is changed. It makes no sense that they do things like that and not tell you.

i got the temp phone for a week while waiting for my tmo contract to run out and when i called to get my number ported back over the lady went over everything again, plan info, add ons, etc.
thought it woulda been caught right about there...

I've been an ATT customer for 10 years and they consistently screw up billing, I have found if you call them they are pretty good about canceling additional charges.

Yeah thishas been talked about over at the kaiser forum. If you have a the 29.99 media max i beleive package you can have it as long as you dont abuse it. This will notify ATT that you are using the media max package that is not intended for PDA;s. They will then unleash gods **** on you which you will obviously fight off then buy a regular PDA package and att wins.

I must agree - I had a similar instance. They managed to cancel my original text messaging plan (1,000 for $10), and instead of putting the correct one back on (it wasn't offered anymore), they gave me whatever was close to it.
I logged in to check my status one night and noticed it. Turns out some idiot at the store changed my number by mistake, then realized it. They switched my plan back for me, as well as gave me a credit on my account, which gave me about 2 months free.

That's a couple of billing errors in that post. Data overages are capped at $99 and should in no way reach as high as $3,000 as long as you stay in the country.

Seriously, guys (and ladies if any in this thread)
There's something called personal responsibility and why you would think that a mere $30 media net plan which is intended for non-PDA phones would suffice your PDAs needs is ridiculous. If you read the literature, it is more than evident and more than clear.

APAB said:
Seriously, guys (and ladies if any in this thread)
There's something called personal responsibility and why you would think that a mere $30 media net plan which is intended for non-PDA phones would suffice your PDAs needs is ridiculous. If you read the literature, it is more than evident and more than clear.
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I'm not so sure the average person gets the difference between PDA plans and MEdiaNET plans. In fact, if you go to a Premiere site and read the descripion for the Fuze, Samsung Blackjack II, and several otehr "PDA" phones it states in the description under Software and Connectivity "MEdia Net -- Wireless Internet access (designed for mobile devices)*" so why on earth would the average person believe that these devices cannot be used with MEdiaNET Unlimited plans? For thaty matter, why would you beluieve that it could not be used with an Unlimited MEdiaNET plan? What is it in the description that you understand that the rest of us do not that we are being "ridiculous" to think that these plans were intended for our Fuze?
To make things more confusing, AT&T began offering MEdiaNET unlimited plans (starting at $15) for devices with full keyboards including the Samsung Propel, Pantech Matrix and Slate. So is the average consumer suppose to understand that the price is tied to the underlying operating system? Windows Smartphone Edition is $15, WM6/6.1 is $30, Symbian is $15, Apple is $30, where does the insanity end?

ok, i'm confused now. The offical data plan for the fuze is the $30 plan. What happened with me is that i havent fully decided between the fuze and my e71, so i called in and added the e71 back to my account and added the $15 medianet unlimited plan. i've been switching between the phones (more time in my fuze now) and when i check online, it shows the fuze as my phone and the $15 medianet plan is added to it... should i be scared? do they check regularly? if they do catch it, will they just put me on the $30 plan or would they charge me pay per use? thanks
omar

omaralt said:
fuze as my phone and the $15 medianet plan is added to it... should i be scared?
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I've been using Medianet for about a month now, coming off of using it on a blackberry, and I haven't had any problems. I check my online account regularly to make sure there aren't any changes in the data plan.

So you are saying that I can use my Fuze with the $15/month media net package instead of the $30 one?

can you? yes. is it the correct plan? no. are you going to get caught? probably not. do i need to stop answering my own questions? yes

Here we go again, I guess I have wasted over 180 posts regardind this SAME situation. I have explained in great detail over and over again how and why this happens. Maybe the mods need to modify the search button to 100pt font.

KD8DNS
I don't think that I understood your other posts regarding Media Net on my pda...can you please elaborate? So can I use Media Net on my pda?

HAHAHAHAHAHAH mviana, no you didnt! ROFLLL!!! poor kd8

systoxity said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAH mviana, no you didnt! ROFLLL!!! poor kd8
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Before you start were you have no clue, read the facts.....
1. As far as AT&T is concerned, for a PDA you must have PDA personal 30.00
2. You can get away with media net 15.00, but you need to trick AT&T.
3. As far as the Op's post goes, he must have had a idiot change his account.
4. Whenever a "upgrade" is performed the system WILL NOT allow media net to be carried over or placed on to a PDA.
So if you want to say "poor kd8" I will say to you... When you have worked with SBC>>>AMERITECH>>>CINGULAR>>>AT&T, and know every aspect of the system and how to trick it, and even publish that info for all the users here to save some cash, once you have done that and become what I have with AT&T, then talk SHI* to me, until then DONT. For those interested on how to trick the system SEARCH "kd8dns media net" if you still dont understand P.M. me.
And of course if you don't have any data plan on your account you will be charged PPU "pay per use" and that is 1c per KB.

There is a difference between PDA PERSONAL and MEDIA MAX
MEDIA MAX---Regular non PDA devices---15.00
PDA PERSONAL---PDA devices--------30.00
As most know I can answer any question regarding AT&T.
If it regards your bill or feature's, P.M. me
I can explain all the tips and tricks.
As far as overage ALL ALL ALL data overage is supposed to be capped at 200.00
but this also depends on if the correct device's IMEI is updated on your AT&T account. Your online account is CRAP, it means nothing. The only thing that is accurate about it, is the fact it can tell what LOCKED AT&T device you are using. DONT TRUST IT EVER!!!!!
And yes, you can use 15.00 media net on a FUZE, I have personally set this up for at least 40 members here!

Thank you for all of the info KD8DNS. if possible could you PM me? I would like to know more about setting up my Fuze on the $15/month plan. I already flashed my ROM to Da_G's ROM.

Here is how ya do it (AGAIN)
1. place sim in a non pda device.
2. Power on, dial *#06#,
3. Wright the imei number on paper.
4. Call customer care and tell them you lost your pda and need to update your account.
5. Have them remove PDA Personal, and add Media Net Unlim (15.00)
6. Say Thank you, and hang up.
7. Place sim back in PDA and don't use more than 3gb a month.
8. You can even tether with this. Just don't go crazy.
Any other question's FEEL FREE to p.m. me, As I am here to help.

$10 unlimited media max web question

i got a question for all you guys using the (dumb phone) internet on your Fuze.. i have got an unlimited messaging family plan and they said i could add the unlimited web to a dumb phone not my fuze... so i gave them the imei number off an old razr and now they have my fuze and the razr on the account on the same line... i told them i only use data on the razr and i use wifi on the fuze... so my question is (i know this has been talked about before) am i all good or can they tell the difference between when im using the razr for data or the fuze for data.... the only reason im asking this is because they know im running the fuze on the same line also and i dont know if they can tell the difference?

They can't tell the difference. I've done exactly the same thing as you stated above and I've been using it this way for months now with no issues.

your good
yea - same here - got the media max 200 and use my phone to skype, slingbox, modem when on road trip ever few weeks and log into my camera system to view live streaming videos - use about 150K KB a month on average.
You got no worries!
sDs

I have done the same thing. I have Unlimited Texting and Web for $30
Just make sure to swap phones a day before calling AT&T about your account. And make sure that they didn't take your plan off once in a while. I do streaming download mp3's, P2P and more.

thanks guys... thats what i figured... i just wanted piece of mind that i was going to be ok using it.... and i only use it for light browsing anyway... but should i switch and use the razr sometimes or am i good just using my fuze 100% of the time

you can use ur fuze 100% percent of the time. this has always been a grey area for at&t but u paying for some data is better then none at all. i too have done the same for years now. its hard to seperate who uses what in terms of kb. yes pda's use more data but with the likes of celluar video and other at&t media features, even regular devices can use a lot of data. enjoy!

I've kept the same Data Package for years. I upgraded to a Fuze from a Samsung Blackjack. The sales guy told me some BS line like, "well the Fuze requires a faster data package because the Fuze is a faster device and the data on the cheap plan can't keep up."
I actually don't have any other phone's IEMI number on my account other then my Fuze. When I call Customer service or visit a store, they say I need the bigger plan but I tell them that it is working perfectly fine and to leave it alone.

ha ha i love squeaking by... these big carriers make hella dough... i just think its bull that both plans work exactly the same but they charge you more for having a more expensive device

Now will I get 3G service on my FUZE if I gave ATT an IMEI of edge/2G dumb phone?

saturn7777777 said:
Now will I get 3G service on my FUZE if I gave ATT an IMEI of edge/2G dumb phone?
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Probably but I think MEdia Net would be cheaper

Yeah you will get 3g no problem, as long as its in your area.. There is nothing different between the pda plan and the medianet plan..
I pitched a fit to ATT one day about it, and I was told becuase my phone had a keyboard they want me to use the more expensive plan.. I guess because I can type in websites faster lol =/
You guys who use medianet, how much data do you average a month that you use? I think I use in the range of 200-300MB, I try to limit though to stay under radar.. lol
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Also not 100% sure on this, if you will get billed extra rather, but make sure you are using wap.cingular for your gateway and not ISP.cingular.. Supposedly you could get charge every money if you use the isp one.

AT&T Fuze without data plan?

I bought a used AT&T Fuze online, and it came yesterday. I popped my SIM in, and this morning, I received a text message saying a data plan is required for all smartphones. I called up AT&T and got my IMEI changed and cancelled the data plan. Is there a way to prevent AT&T from charging me for the data plan, so that I can just use the phone without internet access (excluding Wi-fi, obviously)?

I have the same question. Back in October I had a Tilt that didn't have the plan - activated it and had been using the plan until mid January - the phone was stolen out of my car. Using a Blackberry now and they automatically stopped the data plan. I have a new Fuze on the way and don't want to pay the 30 per month as I can use WIFI almost anywhere for free.
Read that their policy is that if you have a smartphone they'll will automatically charge the 30 and activate you if you activate a new phone - but it doesn't specify whether the "new" phone is purchased from them or just through a change in recognition via the SIM.
When I looked at my account in January there isn't an option to disable the data plan - used to be there - so I'm thinking you use a Smartphone you have to pay. Seem to me a class action lawsuit should be in the works. Many use the phone as a PDA and don't care if we have access 24/7.
Maybe if they upped their speeds and coverage for 3g while lowering the price say to 10 to 15 it would be worth it.

So I'm guessing it can't be done? darn. Damn AT&T!

Unlock it and use t-mobile; that may be your best bet.

i bought my fuze with no data plan so there shouldnt be a problem. as long as you didnt purchase where u received a discount for signing up for a data plan

I bought it used, and it automatically charged me

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I didnt have that problem with AT$T, actually.. i just recently put my wife's sim into my old fuze. with the exception of getting charged for unwanted data that got downloaded automatically, she has had no problems. she doesn't use the internet so it is fine. I just had AT&T block any data from her line. ( her line is no longer under contract, and i would like to keep it that way...)
I do actually have a question of my own... (didn't want to start a new thread)....
she does want to send and receive picture messages, we have unlimited messaging, but with the fuze you must have data in order to send or receive MMS. AT&T thinks she still has her old razr.
I would like to set her up with unlimited data plan for the razr, which is only like $10 per month, and was wondering if this would work with the fuze and what settings i might need to change to make it work.
thanks
keith

Sorry, but from how it looks now.. No you can't.. if you use Data, they will catch you that you are using a Fuze... the only "work around" I know is this... She can set up a yahoo, gmail, or simmilar account to just use with her phone... Then whenever she is in a WiFi area, she can send and receive picture email.. she can take the picture and compose them anytimes.. just has to wait to send them til she can use the WiFi.... MMS accounts can both send and receive with people who use email.... where they put in the send, instead of a phone number, they just put in an email address (go ahead, try it yourself, I know you want to )
As far as her sending her pictured emails to peoples phones, she just needs to know what carrier they use.. Then enter their #, and the rest of their
"email" address from this site : http://modmyi.com/wiki/index.php/MMS_Email_Addresses
She can avoid having to look up their address if the person who wants to share pictures with simply sends a message first to her phones email account using their phone... Then she just simple has to reply I know this is probally not the answer you were looking for, but it woudl work and save you having to pay the $35 for AT&T PDA Data....

I've never had a problem not having a data plan on my account. I bought it refurbished from AT&T and there was no data plan required for activation. I even temporarily added a data plan, then took it off again the next day just last month. I was never hassled or given the run-around at any point. Maybe you should just try changing the IMEI back to the Fuze and see what happens. It might also be a good idea to install NoData and disable the two data connections first, just so it never tries to connect.

I also dont want a data plan( cant afford it). My question is how can i make it not use wap for internet and only use wifi, when i do need it to receive data for mms. Thats included in my messaging plan but I have par per use internet and media net. I want to make sure that it doesnt connect to the network for internet or media net and I can only do internet through wifi. How do I do this? I tried just turning data off but it automatically turned back on when i hit the browser. How do i make it only use wifi? Thanks

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I also dont want a data plan( cant afford it). My question is how can i make it not use wap for internet and only use wifi, when i do need it to receive data for mms. Thats included in my messaging plan but I have par per use internet and media net. I want to make sure that it doesnt connect to the network for internet or media net and I can only do internet through wifi. How do I do this? I tried just turning data off but it automatically turned back on when i hit the browser. How do i make it only use wifi? Thanks
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You can always get a data block on your plan, so when you accidentally try to use data, it wont connect, thus making ATT not know you have a PDA... therefore wifi is the best and only option!

kmartin888 said:
I didnt have that problem with AT$T, actually.. i just recently put my wife's sim into my old fuze. with the exception of getting charged for unwanted data that got downloaded automatically, she has had no problems. she doesn't use the internet so it is fine. I just had AT&T block any data from her line. ( her line is no longer under contract, and i would like to keep it that way...)
I do actually have a question of my own... (didn't want to start a new thread)....
she does want to send and receive picture messages, we have unlimited messaging, but with the fuze you must have data in order to send or receive MMS. AT&T thinks she still has her old razr.
I would like to set her up with unlimited data plan for the razr, which is only like $10 per month, and was wondering if this would work with the fuze and what settings i might need to change to make it work.
thanks
keith
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I used to have an old Samsung flip that I actually flipped into two pieces. When I replaced it with a used Blackjack I simply went into AT&T and had them add the $30 MEdia Net package (Unlimited Data, Unlimited Msgs) because it showed that I still had the old Samsung flip. I had been using my Blackjack for about 2 months and there was no recognition. Now I'm using the Fuze with no problem. As long as your plan doesn't show that you are using a smartphone (IE you bought one from them) then you should be ok. I've been doing this for over a year with no problems.

In the same boat. Just bought a Rhodium & I'm wondering what I can use my Fuze for. I wanna give it to my dad whose line has no data, or use it as a back-up and cancel my handset insurance. Can I switch between devices on my sim which has a data plan? Can I use it as a wi-fi only browsing device(my Tilt 2 won't connect via wi-fi, it seems, the SIM having never been installed)? I could try data block on the account or data block software & put his SIM in. I thought the rationale for the data plan requirement was that the company could only make a profit, while subsidizing the price of these devices, by charging more than a fee for monthly voice service over the term of the contract and that, after the contract, the device is now mine(not rendered useless as even a phone should one not have a data plan), free and clear, to do with as I wish, or at least to use wi-fi without a plan(like my Tilt 2 is not doing)

When I got my FUZE in April, 2009 the saleswoman said that I could cancel the data plan in 6 months.. Online there was never an option to disable the data plan so I called and had it canceled that way. Now that it was canceled though, online does show that there is an option of no data plan. I bet though if I re-added the data plan that disable option will disappear again.
You can use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610657
to block your data from ever being used. I use this to turn off AT&T ISP GPRS and MEdia Net. You can still send/receive texts and go online through WiFi.
@TheGlowingCurve, I don't believe just being an unlocked phone helps, my previous phones are all unlocked now but if I put my SIM in them again, att.com immediately changes my account's phone picture and model to the phone the SIM card is in. They know ALL about what phone you're using.
EDIT: I've never understood the relevance of http://www.htcclassaction.org/ to the Raphael. That site says there is no 3D acceleration or acceleration of videos and whatnot but of course there is acceleration. There is an ATI driver cab and it allows running of 3D programs like Diamond Hologram and COD2, not to mention TouchFLO3D and Sense UI. I don't even think that driver cab is needed because I honestly don't even install it. Video acceleration may not work in CorePlayer, but the solution is easy, don't use CorePlayer! The included Windows Media Player and Album programs are both accelerated and capable of playing H264 videos smoothly. The problems mentioned in http://www.htcclassaction.org/ have nothing to do with our phone and in the site's updates (which are all at least 2 years old!) it even says the Touch Diamond at release had 3D capabilities already.
I'm pretty sure your issues with the FUZE have to do with WM itself, not with HTC's phone.

I too had a tilt, but i put the sim card in teh new fuze i bought. Both of my phones have no data.
I got some bull**** out of them in december when i asked. But i called in the other day, and it was like oh yeah np. No more data.
Because i was a cingular customer im grandfathered in. If you had a PDA prior to november of last year, you also are grandfathered in.
dont take no for an answer.
Just to be clear, ive now shut data off and turned it on on the fuze alone 6 times. LOL

freekquency said:
I too had a tilt, but i put the sim card in teh new fuze i bought. Both of my phones have no data.
I got some bull**** out of them in december when i asked. But i called in the other day, and it was like oh yeah np. No more data.
Because i was a cingular customer im grandfathered in. If you had a PDA prior to november of last year, you also are grandfathered in.
dont take no for an answer.
Just to be clear, ive now shut data off and turned it on on the fuze alone 6 times. LOL
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So you bought the FUZE after November of last year?
Did you have to call them each time to shut down the data plan? Is the charge for that prorated?

lol so now that AT&T removed their unlimited data plan and introduced limited data plans, what happens with future smart phones? Will AT&T require the higher priced data plan?
EDIT: http://gizmodo.com/5555561/hey-att-we-want-rollover-bytes

i just got a fuze from the MP and bam less than 3 hours after taking my sim card out of my pantech impact which had the unlim data and text on our family plan ..they nailed me for the fuze and changed me to the 25 dollar smartphone plan .... should i switch back to the impact and just tell them i was fixing a freinds phone and shut off the data connection on the fuze and get the 30 dollar plan again or wont it work

Using the Fuze with no data plan and using WiFi.
Well there's actually some things to keep in mind here. Being that I have had some experience with AT&T smartphones for busiensses, I know that this is a sore spot to their network users. If you're using a PDA and haven't switched the IMEI online, you're bound to receive a bill from AT&T if you're using the WAP settings from the stock AT&T ROM build. To get around this, unlock your SIM, change the IMEI online, use NoData, and set up your phone to search and prompt you for WiFi hotspots. Turn the phone off or to Airplane mode also from the connection manager. There are plenty that are free once you're in their area, or near an open private WIFI network area. Simply connect, and send all of your data via Wifi connections. This will keep the device from auto-detecting the AT&T WAP and/or using the WAP settings.
One extra step that I take is to erase your WAP data completely from the connection manager so that it's not automatically recognizing the AT&T network settings. You can then choose your settings when needed using any GSM network anywhere in the world, but be careful! This can be expensive if you're not watching your settings. Unlocking your SIM is a MUST! If you're smart, you can set up a T-Mobile prepay account to use the partner(AT&T) GSM network when needed, if needed. This will normally cost you $.99 per day to use.
I hope this helps you better understand the WAP settings. One note.....trash the stock AT&T ROM for one that you'll find here on this site. There have been many that have worked hard to modify this device so that you can fully experience the device fully.

ok i bought my fuze from someone here at xda and he wasnt sure if it is unlocked or not
how can i find out i dont have access to a tmobile sim ..how do i change the imei online
and if i dont have a data connection will the time and weather still update and im using Tael rom ..the weird thing is i had a fuze that got stolen that i was using on the 30 dollar unlimited plan that i singed up for in feb2010 when i got service them and got the samsung impression free then switched to my fuze and they never caught on but like i said in my post above when my gf hooked us up on the family plan with the impacts ..when i switched to my new fuze they got me quick ..and this fuze is setup the same way as my previuos fuze