Hi everyone
I just wanted to know if someone has tried a prepaid sim on the mda and used the internet through EDGE. For some reason i get free internet and I just have $10 on my account with no charge to it. post if you get the same result.
Update: Was told about this Free WAP on T-Mobile!
But they talk about having free wap but its actually free gprs so you can use PIE, Opera for ppc,
Win media and listen to streams or anything that can use gprs (edge)
and also you can use modem link or internet sharing for your PC
Update 2: This will only work for US T-Mobile because of the updating to 3G of the network. So it may work for a limited time. < Refining EDGE
Update 3: Can also work on contract sim cards but i advise to use at own risk tmobile my start to charge you and it can get expensive if you do not have a data plan. I have been told that sometimes this may not work But will work on prepaid sim cards
Update 4: this will work on any phone but you need to have a different web browser like opera mini. It may also stop working but will work again if you disconnect and connect again right then or in a different time.
Settings to use: Cellular line (GPRS) and wap.voicestream.com
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aboutthemind said:
3G roll out is already in the air. when it comes to net working i go with hours spent under neath my old server room.
By the way update news flash t mobile is not hearing any of this i fact that stock is all that matters rember business thats what comes first i'm for you believe me pure respect but you would think i just got here.
\Ok t-mobile back end site
http://www.t-mobile.com/promotions/samsungblastlp.aspx?WT.mc_n=MesgPromoLink_SpecPg&WT.mc_t=OnsiteAd
Plug this today if you are complianing this is a capped plan now what ever you do it doesn't matter. the compute will bill for what you have
Move this to the front so i don't have to deal with the hype
fact free net never went down
means no man down if no mms was being used or dialed in.
Fact i still cant get out on some phones i am cingular so t-mobile takes a bit longer for me
Plane straight t-zones $5.99 no mms cabs t-zones
216.155.165.50:8080 done
Plan t-zones online only catch 22 must change phone to a non pda.
I am OK with this move for one reason. the minute you make a call the system will flip your phone status back to the beautiful stock photo of what ever you have
If you don't understand me well guess what i don't look up when i type i do look up when i sign paychecks so just ask your friend moderator and this goes right into th45 move chart. 7 years and still cant typo as fast as i think
My theory is this i still am having problems with outh the cabs like im handi cap so that mens that the mms plays a role when you dial it in dont ask some else figure it out because our cabs work but i always change to 8080
the same source and my coaching argues with me on this stupid subject.
everyone here that has a opinion should also take into consideration that mathematics and reason does not make the world go round in the us its money homes and cars we will leave that discussion for one of my 100 seminars i power train at.
But 3g is already their but cingular never owned or should i say lease the heavier sites up top they bought the newbie national package. So the reason t mobile is not as deep is because cingular most likely resigned a separate deal that would not be part of a locked contract. So t mobile has to buy it on thier own.
But 3g only works in certain areas like blocks but when t hooks up it shakes financially t-mobile will wait until the market moves an inch the hype is not 3g for the 97 percent of the world only the fans. You will see more picture and video before speed is a priority.
hence the reason 2000 laptops are a nickel now. i see a ten quad coming why some body shooting the titanic nope i guarantee you some asshole in chicago saw that the glutens meaning the us will be picture crazy and share your picture and make your family trip a movie so they are making gaming look like a intermediate sport
good news better for the individual that wants a nuke for hardware cause last time i checked Intel core duo 2 were not $599. wait a month the good stuff will just get cheaper.
T-mobile could give to ****s about anybody back dooring a connection. Half of the reason it limited is to cut down on support the sales guy has no affiliation with the web and has no idea that his company is like the airlines trying to eliminate human error and involvement so thats why all cell phone company's act like mac users when u walk in. Mention the website your done.
You guys 2 ways to go media $9.95 or t-zones flip the phone online to a non pda chief go ahead and tear this up copy paste what ever get to the front so we don't up set the ladies.
I hope today we can 3 issues Dr shaps VOIP your smash and grab t-mobile issue and my feeling of un-appreciation. I like the fact that i am a member its a good thing i love roman history and i take that as a compliment. I thought junior wood chuck suited me.
But what do i know
except xda is not to be disrespected and no matter this is a good place.
ah screw it why should i change my style somebody eklse spell scheck this i need to go to frys and buy the left side make sure we handle this voip that works fine issue.
I like that one
t-mobile will not wait much longer but i wa
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gonna try and post
I am gonna go get a prepaid card and try this. and post my findings soon.
Need someone to test this? please thanks in advance
ps. also try in other phones if possible and i think it dosent matter how much money you have
Go to the PrePAID thread in Howardforum, it's been happening for awhile now. I am roaming in Vancouver and I still have free WAP speed internet.
story said:
Go to the PrePAID thread in Howardforum, it's been happening for awhile now. I am roaming in Vancouver and I still have free WAP speed internet.
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Thanks for telling me
I read somewhere on howardforums about a week or so ago about this. From what I saw posted, this is only temporary because T-Mobile is making some upgrades on their data network.
I guess for the time being it’s just easier for them to open the whole data network to everyone while making whatever changes/upgrades.
My guess would be its some kind of upgrade to the internet access authentication system, and since that authentication system is down during the upgrade, the smoothest way to continue data access for the time being is to just give it to everyone. Just a guess though =P
I think its for there new 3G network. but for now ill enjoy the free service. Hope they dont charge when they finish there upgrade.
ultraprimeomega said:
Hi all
I just wanted to know if someone has tried a prepaid sim on the mda and used the internet through EDGE. For some reason i get free internet and I just have $10 on my account with no charge to it. post if you get the same result.
Update: Was told about this Free WAP on T-Mobile!
But they talk about having free wap but its actually free gprs so you can use PIE, Opera for ppc,
Win media and listen to streams or anything that can use gprs (edge)
and also you can use modem link or internet sharing for your PC
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What settings are you using? I had it for a while on my unlocked cingular 8525 using t-mobile prepaid but I lost my settings when I hard resetted and everything I have tried so far hasn't worked. BTW do you have it working where u can use WIFI or GPRS without having to change your settings under connections everytime?
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What settings are you using? I had it for a while on my unlocked cingular 8525 using t-mobile prepaid but I lost my settings when I hard resetted and everything I have tried so far hasn't worked. BTW do you have it working where u can use WIFI or GPRS without having to change your settings under connections everytime?
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just use the regular tmobile gprs settings and i dont change anything in the connection settings
ultraprimeomega said:
just use the regular tmobile gprs settings and i dont change anything in the connection settings
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Umm, yea..., I forgot the settings, and since its a cingular 8525 it doesnt come with them, could you post them please?
cjchriscj said:
Umm, yea..., I forgot the settings, and since its a cingular 8525 it doesnt come with them, could you post them please?
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i dont know my settings right now because im in mexico using a different carrier
but you can try this settings that i got from http://tmobileus.wdsglobal.com/phonefirst
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Settings have been redone and work for me
Setting up the handset
1. Tap Start.
2. Tap Settings.
3. Tap on the Connections tab.
4. Tap the Connections icon.
5. Tap Add a new modem connection under T-Mobile GPRS or whatever name you have
6. Enter Tmobile Data in the Enter a name for the connection field.
7. Tap to select Cellular Line (GPRS) from the Select a modem drop down list.
8. Tap Next.
9. Enter wap.voicestream.com in the Access point name field.
10. Tap Next.
11. Tap Finish.
12. Tap Edit my proxy server under T-Mobile GPRS or whatever name you have
13. Tap to check This network connects to the Internet.
Hope this helps you
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I think its for there new 3G network
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No way, they havent even gotton everyone who off the spectrum's yet.
I have a T-mobile prepaid sim and I get free internet. I don't think its edge speed though because it does take a while for the web pages to load. I think its wap speed. If you are getting edge speeds without paying, I guess your lucky. No charge.
it goes faster if you use it on a computer but when using it on the phone it goes slower. i read somewhere that edge has 4 time slots and could go at higher speeds if all 4 time slots are connected but thats in good weather and nothing between the phone and the tower. i think its in wikipedia.com that i read this.
I'm getting it too...wooohooo! Much slower than wireless but it's great to update weather and rss feeds. Thanks to everyone for all the info.
ultraprimeomega said:
Hi everyone
I just wanted to know if someone has tried a prepaid sim on the mda and used the internet through EDGE. For some reason i get free internet and I just have $10 on my account with no charge to it. post if you get the same result.
Update: Was told about this Free WAP on T-Mobile!
But they talk about having free wap but its actually free gprs so you can use PIE, Opera for ppc,
Win media and listen to streams or anything that can use gprs (edge)
and also you can use modem link or internet sharing for your PC
Update 2: This will only work for US T-Mobile because of the updating to 3G of the network. So it may work for a limited time.
Update 3: Can also work on contract sim cards but i advise to use at own risk tmobile my start to charge you and it can get expensive if you do not have a data plan. I have been told that sometimes this may not work.
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thanks for that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Is it still good/working or they blocked it already?
Thanks,
Tom
I get it free too!
I just posted this in the networking area ... I too am getting FREE connectivity .. without a prepaid card.
I do not have a data plan, am on a regular family plan, and am located in Salt Lake City, UT. I am also out of contract.
I flashed my MDA to Faria's AKU 3.3 8mb ROM. Set my carrier to "T-Mobile WAP", and voila! I get free access.
I freaked the first time it started up, and was downloading data.. thinking I was going to get a big fat bill.
I called customer service, and long story short, they told me that if I could connect, I was lucky, because it is a fluke, and I would be shortly disconnected thereafter. I was also told that I would NOT be charged.
So ... there you have it. Free (for a limited time) data access on T-Mobile.
swingheim said:
I just posted this in the networking area ... I too am getting FREE connectivity .. without a prepaid card.
I do not have a data plan, am on a regular family plan, and am located in Salt Lake City, UT. I am also out of contract.
I flashed my MDA to Faria's AKU 3.3 8mb ROM. Set my carrier to "T-Mobile WAP", and voila! I get free access.
I freaked the first time it started up, and was downloading data.. thinking I was going to get a big fat bill.
I called customer service, and long story short, they told me that if I could connect, I was lucky, because it is a fluke, and I would be shortly disconnected thereafter. I was also told that I would NOT be charged.
So ... there you have it. Free (for a limited time) data access on T-Mobile.
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I think the representatives dont know about the upgrade until there almost finish upgrading. as i been seeing its been a long time, maybe since 2005 that people have reported this. It makes me think that they are updating all of the network. that will also means that they will be taking out 3g phones and i could finally use my htc tytn on tmobile for internet instead of cingular.
swingheim said:
I just posted this in the networking area ... I too am getting FREE connectivity .. without a prepaid card.
I do not have a data plan, am on a regular family plan, and am located in Salt Lake City, UT. I am also out of contract.
I flashed my MDA to Faria's AKU 3.3 8mb ROM. Set my carrier to "T-Mobile WAP", and voila! I get free access.
I freaked the first time it started up, and was downloading data.. thinking I was going to get a big fat bill.
I called customer service, and long story short, they told me that if I could connect, I was lucky, because it is a fluke, and I would be shortly disconnected thereafter. I was also told that I would NOT be charged.
So ... there you have it. Free (for a limited time) data access on T-Mobile.
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I am hoping that i don't get charged for this right now but i have no data plan and am trying it. Fingers crossed.
I am also wondering when it is going to end so I won't get charged for data usage
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While this may sound like me complaining, I do understand I ws getting away with not having to pay for internet.
Has anyone else noticed that the TZones loophole has been cutoff. At approx 1:30am MST this morning both my brother and I noticed that our phones stopped syncing with our exchange OTA. He looked in to a couple of things on the exchagne and couldn't find anything wrong. We both power cycled our phone and still nothing. I then tried to browse the net and sure enough I couldn't. I checked\double checked\triple checked all of the settings - wap.voicestream.com - 216.155.165.50 and still nothing. I posted a thread on Howard Forums and have received a couple of responses but not enough for me to think that TMo stopped the service. Maybe they are just doing some sort of upgrade\maintanence? Wishfull thinking. I guess if not I will have to pay which is not a problem. The nice thing about the "loophole" was getting Exchange to sync OTA. I rarley used it for browsing.
I too posted in HoFo about the "outage"...
I've been out of contract with t-mobile for over a year now, enjoying the "non-proxied" direct internet access for $5.99/month that they've been offering- but in my situation, there's no way I'd pay them $30/month for unrestricted EDGE-only access.
I've been a t-mobile customer for 10+ years, but I'm strongly considering jumping ship to Cingular--doing the math, I can go to them for $20 more a month instead of $30, get rollover, AND get 3G speeds (and services, in my area) on my 8525. Hotspot service is useless to me, since I have municipal wifi access where I am 99% of the time.
So, $30 more for EDGE speeds (and useless hotspot service) or $20 more for 3G speed? For me, it's a no brainer.
I am back up and running. I removed the "My ISP" connection and set up a new one under "My Work". I then set up the Proxy agian to use port 8080 instead of just 80.
I've done the same--however, most data-capable apps (gmail app, resco radio, remote desktop) don't seem to be proxy capable and fail to work.
Oh well. Direct Push is working, and PIE can browse the web. It was nice while it lasted.
kugeln said:
I've done the same--however, most data-capable apps (gmail app, resco radio, remote desktop) don't seem to be proxy capable and fail to work.
Oh well. Direct Push is working, and PIE can browse the web. It was nice while it lasted.
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Hey Houston folks, same here I need to switch around ISP and The work network to use either email or web browsing, google map, etc... what a pain in the neck. hopfully someone out there smart enough to find a work around to do both.
sonystyle said:
Hey Houston folks, same here I need to switch around ISP and The work network to use either email or web browsing, google map, etc... what a pain in the neck. hopfully someone out there smart enough to find a work around to do both.
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With the way I am set up I can do both, email and browse. While the browsing seems to be limited to true WAP sites I don't really mind. I really only need to connection for Push anyway.
The same thing happened a few months ago. It lasted for about 3 or 4 days and then everything was back to normal.
I'm confused. Are you the guys that are back up and running paying at least $4.99 a month for data or are you getting completely free data access??
FallN said:
I'm confused. Are you the guys that are back up and running paying at least $4.99 a month for data or are you getting completely free data access??
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Personally I am paying $5.99 for TMobile Web (TZones) and yes I am back up and running.
I'm also paying $5.99 a month for T-Mobile web and I just checked and I'm back up and running again without having to change any settings.
I'm also paying $5.99 for T-Mobile web and I just checked and I'm also back up and running without any changes in my settings.
xeno1 said:
I'm also paying $5.99 for T-Mobile web and I just checked and I'm also back up and running without any changes in my settings.
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So you don't have the Proxy settings in? That is the only way I can get mine to wrk for both Browsing and Push Email.
i wish mine still worked.
none works with or without proxy, i had it working for a few weeks when i got my PPC phone, but now its gone, i dont think i have tzones but i do have unlimited txt/mms stuff (family plan)
Mines back to not working again either. They must be having some kind of problem with their servers because i I can't even get to the T-zones and even if they were trying to close some loopholes so that people couldn't access the entire net they wouldn't shut down T-zones with it.
T-Mobile Making a Big Mistake
I just found this thread. I have two plans with T-Mobile. One for myself (work) and one for my family. I have been with T-Mobile for a year. After coming from Verizon and Cingular. It's been a good experience.
However, T-Mobile's lack of either a 3G network or a decently priced plan is going to push me back to Cingular. I used a Wizard on T-Mobile for the past year. I paid $29.99 per month for their "Total Internet" package. The package includes unlimited Edge Internet and Hot Spots. The hot spot service is next to worthless.
Until T-Mobile offers a full 3G network, the price for unlimited internet on a Wizard, Dash, or Wing should be $14.99 (half what they are now charging).
Since March, I've been using a TyTN on T-Mobiles network. One week ago, I got a Cingular ATT card and Cingy's data plan for $44.00 and it is worth it. I'm crusing the web between 400 and 1000 kbps. On T-Mobiles Edge, I get 75 to 146 kbs. This is not worth $29.99.
I'd keep my wife and kids on T-Mobile and get data plans for two or more of this if the cost were no more than $14.99. That's all it's worth. I've talked to many loyal T-Mobile customers who are switching to AT&T for the same reason.
I hope T-Mobile is listening. They need to get their 3G launched and keep their data rates competetive until they do.
Hey guys I just recently updated to 6.1 on my tilt with vega's rom and i came across an old thread that said with WM 6.1 that carriers could see if the device was tethering using the internet sharing feature and charge accordingly. I use WMWiFiRouter and i have unlimited medianet on my plan and together to this point I have not incurred any data charges.. Has anyone else used wmwifirouter with 6.1 and been charged??
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about a month back since I was moving apartments I ended up using about a gigs worth of tethering until my internet was setup. I tried to use it pretty sparingly - in the end no fancy charges on the bill!
also I have cingulars PDA personal max with the smallest minute plan (totals about 90 per month)
I must say though this is one example, ive read all kinds of things on this topic and its too confusing to be predictable. Your taking a risk but i think it should be ok for ocasional light use.
Another strategy since it seems you dont want to restrict yourself to light use. Just go nuts really and when the bill hits if it EVEr hits who knows, thats the point where you call up and act humbly confused. The cingular people will remove the 33,000+ dollars worth of charges. This is what happened to me on my first month with the tilt no joke 33,000!!! - thats how I got punched from 20 dollar a month media net access with to 40 pda personal max. they know once cant expect a payment of such bonkers proportions -beware its all part of their plan at all times to make you upgrade so good luck.
Wow thats crazy.. I myself use under a gig a month and i have been doing this for a long time. I was just caught off guard when i read that you can possibly be billed when you use Windows mobile 6.1.. Are you using windows mobile 6 or 6.1??
I would assume they will not be charging. I believe that it is a new feature of windows mobile 6.1 that could be implemented if at&t ever made a windows mobile 6.1 ROM but at&t's official ROM is still windows mobile 6. (Even the updated one that was just released) So how could they charge for a feature that they don't support? But I guess we will find out here in another billing cycle.
Dont DO IT
I just upgraded my phone to a AT&T tilt. I already had a Media Max 200 bundle that I have had for almost 2 years. As of last night my account said I had the Media MAx 200 plan. .. I poped the SIM card into the tilt this morning. Now I view my account online and it says that my MediaMax 200 plan expires on 04/08 and the amount next to it says zero. When I look at the data usage it shows I am being billed ber kb... you guys need to watch it. Strange thing is my wife has a HTC phone that we got on ebay it was a eurpoean import and her media max is still there. I think it has somethin to do with them knowing the IMIE number. Something to think about. So Ilm off to find a way to mask the darn imie number or I will just purchase an import.
Any suggestions
alynch75 said:
I just upgraded my phone to a AT&T tilt. I already had a Media Max 200 bundle that I have had for almost 2 years. As of last night my account said I had the Media MAx 200 plan. .. I poped the SIM card into the tilt this morning. Now I view my account online and it says that my MediaMax 200 plan expires on 04/08 and the amount next to it says zero. When I look at the data usage it shows I am being billed ber kb... you guys need to watch it. Strange thing is my wife has a HTC phone that we got on ebay it was a eurpoean import and her media max is still there. I think it has somethin to do with them knowing the IMIE number. Something to think about. So Ilm off to find a way to mask the darn imie number or I will just purchase an import.
Any suggestions
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Swap to a NON-PDA phone, use that for a couple days, call them up and tell 'em the Tilt is an occasional use phone. That was a suggestion that I'd read in another thread dealing with that issue. And to the tethering WM6.1 users (including myself), we'll see in a month or so whether we go HOLY F$%^ING $H^T or if its business as usual.
can you guys point me in the right direction for setting up my teathering. I can't get it to work.
hope this helps..
scwilson8382 said:
can you guys point me in the right direction for setting up my teathering. I can't get it to work.
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As long as you have either XP or Vista, all you have to do is find a utility called "internet sharing" which should be a part of your communication manager, especially if you have the custom ones that allow you to turn on/off bluetooth, wifi, phone, etc. Once you tap on it you will see just two drop down boxes where one of them is for selecting bluetooth or usb.
step 1. Click on the "connect" soft button which will activate your data connection.
step 2. plug in the usb port of your Tilt/Kaiser.
Step 3. plug in a usb port on your pc/notebook. (this will ensure it won't activate your activesync connection)
wait about 5 seconds or so and launch your browser.. have a blast.
Its that simple.
I have Dutty's Touch (Build 18548.dutty's). In the connections sub menu I have the wireless modem option. After I open it, select usb and hit start nothing happens. I'm running VISTA HOME PREMIUM. when you say hit connect do you mean the "Data Connection in the com manager or the "Start" in the wireless modem panel? I have followed the directions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288753
alynch75 said:
I just upgraded my phone to a AT&T tilt. I already had a Media Max 200 bundle that I have had for almost 2 years. As of last night my account said I had the Media MAx 200 plan. .. I poped the SIM card into the tilt this morning. Now I view my account online and it says that my MediaMax 200 plan expires on 04/08 and the amount next to it says zero. When I look at the data usage it shows I am being billed ber kb... you guys need to watch it. Strange thing is my wife has a HTC phone that we got on ebay it was a eurpoean import and her media max is still there. I think it has somethin to do with them knowing the IMIE number. Something to think about. So Ilm off to find a way to mask the darn imie number or I will just purchase an import.
Any suggestions
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You upgraded to a fresh-out-of-box Tilt or you upgraded your Tilt to windows mobile 6.1? When I bought my Tilt they told me that my media max data plan would not work with it and that they would need to upgrade it to a 3G data plan. Could this be your case?
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I have Dutty's Touch (Build 18548.dutty's). In the connections sub menu I have the wireless modem option. After I open it, select usb and hit start nothing happens. I'm running VISTA HOME PREMIUM. when you say hit connect do you mean the "Data Connection in the com manager or the "Start" in the wireless modem panel? I have followed the directions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288753
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Checkout this screenshot.. this is the utility that actually comes with even the stock ROM. See if you can find it in some other folder.
So, you're gonna tap the connect soft key and then plug into the usb port of the computer. The other utilities became pretty much obsolete once MS added this utility, I believe in WM5 for the first time.
The others have to be installed on your machine and activesync disabled.. this one doesn't need any of those.
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You upgraded to a fresh-out-of-box Tilt or you upgraded your Tilt to windows mobile 6.1? When I bought my Tilt they told me that my media max data plan would not work with it and that they would need to upgrade it to a 3G data plan. Could this be your case?
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Im on the iphone plan (iphone under repair) and the tilt works fine on the iphone data plan. using another sim that is only mediamax 200 it also works fine. i dont think the plan needs to be 3G specified for it to work with the tilt
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Okay so what do I do? I got the tilt from AT&T via fed express. It had a sim card in it but i didn't use it. I just took the sim card out of my old blackjack and put it in the tilt and now nothing... it worked but online the price and plan changed. anyoine have any ideas
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Okay so what do I do? I got the tilt from AT&T via fed express. It had a sim card in it but i didn't use it. I just took the sim card out of my old blackjack and put it in the tilt and now nothing... it worked but online the price and plan changed. anyoine have any ideas
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The sim for the tilt needs to be a 3g sim. Your blackjack one is probably not unless you upgraded it. You can call at&t over the phone and get them to switch the sims to the new one that came with your tilt.
I think this is what you are asking but I'm not really sure.
Data Plans
I had similar experience where I called ATT and asked for to have my Tilt switched to Unlimited media net for $19.95 +200 SMS instead of $35 PDA data plan with 1500 SMS included... and lady on the other side told me that MediaNet is - and I quote "DIFFERENT TYPE OF INTERNET"
Well, I tried to pursuade her that it is same data plan my wife has on her Iphone but she was determined not to give up telling me fairytales about "Specialized DATA PLAN for iPhone...." and that Windows device uses more data than Iphone
Eventhough I told her that use about 60Mb/per month, mostly for emails (and comparing to my wife whose data usage is more on the level of Apache server than iPhone - up to 10-12Gb/month) still did not help to make ATT agent diviate from reading the predifined customer service script in front of her, and lower my Data plan rate.
The following evening I went to local ATT store and very cool sales rep(store was empty so I was obviously breaking monothony of his shift) Changed the plan without single questions. - Everything works same way as with PDA data plan - no issues whatsoever.
I was having an intermittent data connection issue on my phone (it usually worked in 3G, but not on EDGE, very weird) I have the MediaMax 19.99
Anyway, I called in and actually got a decent rep. I told him that I switched sims between a Tilt and a Razor (work vs night/weekend) and he was very cool.
Basically he saw that my data wasn't crazy, said that he totally got what was going on, and was not going to raise any flags or anything, but that he "could not provide support" for data connection issues while the SIM was in a Tilt with that plan. He then said he would check everything on the back end and to restart my phone in 4 minutes.
Presto chango and it has worked almost perfectly since (about the last 3 weeks) I personally agree with his stance. I mean, I think AT&T is still getting a good bit of cash from me, but obviously I am gaming the system a little bit, so just not supporting it, but not coming down on it seems fair to me.
THe guy I got owns a Tilt (and probably has the freakin MEdia Max plan!) but I am sure if you get some yaboo who doesn't know a slider phone from a slider burger then all you will get is the rote script. In that case, be polite, hand up, and call back until you get someone that knows what to do. Or as another poster said, try going to the store although there is no guarantee there that they will be less idiotic.
When I hang up, they call me back
Any update on the original poster's question on this? Does WM6.1 include some new way of letting carriers know if the data is being used "from the phone directly" or "from a PC via tethering"?
It looks like the Internet Sharing in 6.1 gives the carriers the ability to track usage, but this doesn't necessarily mean that they will be tracking usage. If anyone is worried about this just find or cook a WM6.1 rom without internet sharing and install the one from a 6.0 rom like the one I have attached (made by Chainfire).
I think _Alex_ has a really clean 6.1 and mine (check sig) has nearly everything removed.
Personally I don't think they will be checking, at least yet... They haven't released a WM 6.1 Tilt, so they are probably working under the assumption that none of the Tilts are 6.1.
-Jay
I got my Fuze last night and the problem persists. AT&T is looking into it but seems to have no clue.
I can use the 3g data network for the weather app, Tomtom but when I attempt to load anything via Opera or IE it fails.
BUT if I load Wifi, then navigate to google.com for example, then turn off the wifi, the 3g data network starts to work. If I close opera and reload it the 3g data network stops working again.
Any ideas?
Jeff
Which data plan did you have before you got the FUZE. I got my FUZE and the sales rep. who sold it to me took off all data since I opted not to go with the PDA package.
I called in and complained and the customer service rep. re-added MediaNet for me. Now I'm having the same issues you mentioned again. WTF is going on.
Just my two Cents
I would take it back and try another phone in the store. Mine works fabulous out of the box.
I had the iphone data plan. AT&T has a support ticket submitted but they seem to be clueless as to what is going on. I am signed up for the correct 30.00 dollar media net plan.
Who knows. They said they would call me back later today. I will let you know if they fix the problem. I have already done a hard reset and it made no difference.
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I had the iphone data plan. AT&T has a support ticket submitted but they seem to be clueless as to what is going on. I am signed up for the correct 30.00 dollar media net plan.
Who knows. They said they would call me back later today. I will let you know if they fix the problem. I have already done a hard reset and it made no difference.
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For what it's worth, I had all kinds of strange data problems when I switched from my iPhone to my Tilt. Had to call AT&T several times before I got a tech who figured out that they had changed my data plan in one place but not another place so it was still picking up the iPhone data plan.
try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444360
i had problems trying to connect to websites via 3g...but able to under wifi.
followed the thread and it now works. :0)
Maskeo13 said:
try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444360
i had problems trying to connect to websites via 3g...but able to under wifi.
followed the thread and it now works. :0)
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I unfortunately tried that already with no success. I probably have incorrect settings on AT&T's end in my account.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I unfortunately tried that already with no success. I probably have incorrect settings on AT&T's end in my account.
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This is most likely the case. I am sitting in an area with full 3G signal and getting speeds of 20k/second. This is all after I switched to the FUZE from the Tilt which had a MediaNet Plan and now am on a PDA Personal plan.
This is Total BS.
Yes i have the SAME PROBLEM,
i used to have th $20 iPhone plan, because i had the original iPhone.
i went into the store and they upgraded my plan to the $30 Fuze plan.
But now i have the same problem, everything works fine on wifi, but when i go into Opera using 3G, it says
"ERROR!: The remote server refuses to perform the request"
and i tried using the Instant messaging application and i get "Request could not be complete (code: 403)
This is awesome. Back 2 years ago when they first rolled out 3G I would reliably get 900 Kbps on my TyTn. Now, here we are 2 years later and I can semi-reliably get 25 Kbps on my FUZE (when it decides that it wants to connect).
What area is everyone in btw?
In my area (Tyson's Corner, VA), AT&T's explanation is that there is "degradation on a few of the towers in that area". Take that for it's worth.
im in Miami Florida,
i have yet to call at&t, but i will in a few minutes
im having the same problem i got mines on nov 10 and i cant connect to opera or AIM over 3g
jeffla said:
I got my Fuze last night and the problem persists. AT&T is looking into it but seems to have no clue.
I can use the 3g data network for the weather app, Tomtom but when I attempt to load anything via Opera or IE it fails.
BUT if I load Wifi, then navigate to google.com for example, then turn off the wifi, the 3g data network starts to work. If I close opera and reload it the 3g data network stops working again.
Any ideas?
Jeff
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ok i just called at&t support.
and i told them my problem, and they noticed that i had the iPhone before i got the Fuze.
They transfered me to Technical support and they guy tried and fixed the network on the spot, but he said, that wat they needed to do is get the "iPhone" out of their network. Because the network still thinks im using the iPhone, so it uses a different type of data transfer.
He said this usually happens to ppl that have an iPhone and then switch to a "normal" phone.
He submitted a paper, that will get the iPhone information out of the network, and my Fuze should be working just fine in 24-48 hours, they said they will call me.
Alucard_11 said:
ok i just called at&t support.
and i told them my problem, and they noticed that i had the iPhone before i got the Fuze.
They transfered me to Technical support and they guy tried and fixed the network on the spot, but he said, that wat they needed to do is get the "iPhone" out of their network. Because the network still thinks im using the iPhone, so it uses a different type of data transfer.
He said this usually happens to ppl that have an iPhone and then switch to a "normal" phone.
He submitted a paper, that will get the iPhone information out of the network, and my Fuze should be working just fine in 24-48 hours, they said they will call me.
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They just called me back and said the iphone was still listed in one of their systems on my account. So the iphone even in death haunts me. (ok it didn't die but I want to smash it)
She also said that my inconsistent data speeds are a result of an outage in my area that has been going on since the 6th of Nov involving 3 towers. They comped my data charge for the month so I guess I can't complain too much.
She said that she will call me at the end of the week to make sure everything is working. Keep your fingers crossed for me.
Jeff
I'm having the same problem in Opera. Opera works fine on phone reset. Howvere, at some point, it just starts returngin the error message "The remote server refuses to perform the request..." The strange thing is that Push email, and my data connection in Garmin Mobile XT continue to work.
Between this issue and the GPS not working (without GPS Test), the Fuze is starting to be a pain in the butt.
Workaround
I have the same problem, where X number of hours after a soft reset, my phone's data connection no longer works. Following some advice I found on another forum, I've gotten a work-around, but it's not great.
The theory was that the phone's data connection is releasing it's IP, and the phone doesn't know it, so it's trying to reuse an expired IP. Pressing and holding the end call (upside down phone) button for a few seconds by default, terminates the data connection (color wheel comes up when this process is started). After that, internet seems to function again.
Anyone have a better resolution to this?
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I have the same problem, where X number of hours after a soft reset, my phone's data connection no longer works. Following some advice I found on another forum, I've gotten a work-around, but it's not great.
The theory was that the phone's data connection is releasing it's IP, and the phone doesn't know it, so it's trying to reuse an expired IP. Pressing and holding the end call (upside down phone) button for a few seconds by default, terminates the data connection (color wheel comes up when this process is started). After that, internet seems to function again.
Anyone have a better resolution to this?
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Sorry, but my resllution was to sell the Fuze and get an iPhone. No more data connection, GPS, battery life, or Bluetooth issues for me.
I bought a Fuze at no commitment today, and after I left the store, I noticed that the sales rep took off my MEdia Max 200 Bundle and replaced it with a PDA Plan. I had asked him not to touch my account.
So how can I get the MEdia Max bundle back? I have been poking around online in my account and can't seem to find a way. Any help would be appreciated.
have u tried puttin your sim in another phone ..changingit to the medis max online and then switching the sim back into the fuze??..idk ..jus a thought
Try to convince them that you're using an old phone again...otherwise I don't think you can get it back. Talked to one of the sales people today and he said they're really cracking down on that lately. I still have Media Max, so we'll se how long it lasts.
*Decided to check my phone before bed and I can't get a data connection any more...the salesman said they were actively blocking medianet data plans on these phones, looks like he may have been right.
Bummer. My old phone is a Tilt, and before that an 8525.
Manage your account online?
1) Go to https://www.wireless.att.com/olam/dashboardAction.olamexecute
2) Change device to something like the Shine or Vu
3) Change data plan to MediaNet Unlimited/Max
Doesn't require calling or otherwise lying to a person over the phone.
I can't say/promise this will work with the Fuze -- but it did with the Tilt.
I personally like AT&T's service, so I'm glad to pay an extra $10/month for internet service. YMMV so I respect others decision to pay less if the service isn't working well for you.
BBM-Lee said:
Manage your account online?
1) Go to https://www.wireless.att.com/olam/dashboardAction.olamexecute
2) Change device to something like the Shine or Vu
3) Change data plan to MediaNet Unlimited/Max
Doesn't require calling or otherwise lying to a person over the phone.
I can't say/promise this will work with the Fuze -- but it did with the Tilt.
I personally like AT&T's service, so I'm glad to pay an extra $10/month for internet service. YMMV so I respect others decision to pay less if the service isn't working well for you.
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I just checked this in my account options and switched my phone from the Tilt to a Samsung A117, but the MediaMax bundles/options aren't available. It still only lists PDA plans, with a minimum add-on of $30/month for unlimited data and $35/month minimum if you're looking for a bundled text option (200 message). Things aren't looking good if they do a check on my features when I upgrade to the Fuze. Has anybody else had their MediaMax taken away/replaced who switched to a Fuze?
This is odd but a nice surprise...after my data stopped working altogether last night I checked it again this afternoon when I had time and noticed it was back working again. I checked my account online and it still has MediaMax, so I'm not sure what my issue was.
If you have an old phone that is supposed to be on Media Max like SMT5600, put the SIM in that phone, make a call, and also open up a webpage.
Now try to go online account and see if you can change the dataplan.
If not call customer care and tell them you have decided to return the Fuze and are now back on your old phone and would like MediaMax put back on the way it was before.
That's what I did and it worked for me
If you all do actually change your pda data to media net. you WILL NOT recieve your rebate, for those that have already done it, kiss that rebate goodbye. For those who have not, wait till you get your rebate then do the sim swap data change.
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If you have an old phone that is supposed to be on Media Max like SMT5600, put the SIM in that phone, make a call, and also open up a webpage.
Now try to go online account and see if you can change the dataplan.
If not call customer care and tell them you have decided to return the Fuze and are now back on your old phone and would like MediaMax put back on the way it was before.
That's what I did and it worked for me
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There not stupid, you have a 30 day return policy, cust care can see when you got it (its updated on your account) and if you have returned it, by the date of contract.
The same exact thing happened to me at the store. The rep. told me he was "leaving my account exactly as it is" and when I got home, I had no data plan attached. I angrily called care and demanded my Media Max plan back and was able to get it back but noticed the next day that my data plan seemed to be bottlenecked. In the course of calling tech support for help, they saw that I was using the FUZE, told me that I needed to change my plan for it to work, and then changed it. Low and behold, my FUZE is working as planned.
I may or may not try to switch back at some point to the MediaMax plan since I do have an old 3G handset lying around.
For those of you who are going to attempt to add an older phone IMEI to your account, make sure that your device is 3G capable or your account won't get the "UMTS Attach" feature which automatically gets added when you add a 3G IMEI.
i have a few different old phones lieing around and everytime i put my SIM card in one of those phones and visit the ATT website my device is automatically updated. However, i still can't enable media net. Does media net only work for the phones listed on the ATT site for media net?
Why is MediaMAX more desirable than the PDA + 200 text plan? Aren't both unlimited data and 200 text for $35 a month?
MediaMax is $20/month
You can get MediaMax with unlimited data and text for $35/month whereas the same with the PDA plan is $50/month
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If you all do actually change your pda data to media net. you WILL NOT recieve your rebate, for those that have already done it, kiss that rebate goodbye. For those who have not, wait till you get your rebate then do the sim swap data change.
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So basically what you are saying is, if your Media Max plan is taken away (and I do have one, using it on my current Treo 680 happily) when you begin using the Fuze you just have to suck up the fees for the high PDA data plan until you get your rebate back months later, then at that point stick the sim in another phone and try to switch it back?
Call me crazy, but I have a feeling that AT&T has implemented certain tracking features with this phone that were never present before, such as limiting internet access and being able to fully track usage and data plan automatically with this phone.
Reasoning:
1. I logged into my account online and where I usually see the feature "UMTS Attach", it was replaced with "Tracking Feature UMTS" from the date that I got the FUZE.
2. When I switched back to MediaMax instead of the PDA Personal Plan, my internet worked flawlessly until later on that day when I was getting bottlenecked speeds of 25 kbps max until I called care and re-added the PDA Personal plan.
3. HSDPA disabled by default and the normal reg. changes which would stick no longer function properly.
4. MUCH tighter feature control on this handset than on any handset prior to it: GPS doesn't even work until you download AT&T Navigator, TF3D is completely contstricted by AT&T customizations, Opera comes with AT&T proxies hidden buried in settings etc.
Overall, I think that AT&T has worked very closely with HTC on this phone in particular to reel in advanced users in an attempt to keep them in their walled garden.
Thoughts?
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So basically what you are saying is, if your Media Max plan is taken away (and I do have one, using it on my current Treo 680 happily) when you begin using the Fuze you just have to suck up the fees for the high PDA data plan until you get your rebate back months later, then at that point stick the sim in another phone and try to switch it back?
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What im saying is when you upgrade to ANY PDA, the condition of getting your rebate is the correct feature. I.E. Pda Personal. When the rebate department check's to make sure its still active and the rate hasn't changed as well as the feature then your rebate is processed. If any of the required criteria has changed you will get a postcard saying DENIED. You really need to read the conditions of the rebate witch is stated on the rebate itself.
As far as the Rep changing the feature, this is a gray area. The upgrade of activation WILL NOT allow you to proceed unless the PDA personal feature is added. So in case of upgrade this is why most of you are seeing media net taken off. The rep is required to tell you if a feature is going to be changed, however when it is changed the WSA (wireless service agreement) you sign before leaving states changes made. Calling and griping will get you no were, due to the fact it is impossible to change back to media net if there is a PDA tagged to the account.
So you have a option, keep the PDA personal feature (it works better than media net anyway) Or don't get a PDA. However, when you go do your upgrade, new line, add on whatever. Make sure you know what you are getting. You would not get a credit card without knowing the intrest rate first would you?
You can do the SIM swap trick but wait till you get the rebate.
As far as the feature tracking and control on the phone itself. For the love of god FLASH A ROM. Most senior members and ROM cookers that have ripped the stock rom apart have a general idea why im saying this. FLASH FLASH and FLASH some more. AT&T really did a number on this rom!!!!
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Call me crazy, but I have a feeling that AT&T has implemented certain tracking features with this phone that were never present before, such as limiting internet access and being able to fully track usage and data plan automatically with this phone.
4. MUCH tighter feature control on this handset than on any handset prior to it: GPS doesn't even work until you download AT&T Navigator, TF3D is completely contstricted by AT&T customizations, Opera comes with AT&T proxies hidden buried in settings etc.
Thoughts?
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My GPS worked fine out of the box, as well as others who have done reviews.
I can help you!
pmcall said:
I bought a Fuze at no commitment today, and after I left the store, I noticed that the sales rep took off my MEdia Max 200 Bundle and replaced it with a PDA Plan. I had asked him not to touch my account.
So how can I get the MEdia Max bundle back? I have been poking around online in my account and can't seem to find a way. Any help would be appreciated.
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I am a store manager for an AT&T authorized retailer (private owned). PM me you email address and i will contact you there and i will switch everything over for you.
I bought a used AT&T Fuze online, and it came yesterday. I popped my SIM in, and this morning, I received a text message saying a data plan is required for all smartphones. I called up AT&T and got my IMEI changed and cancelled the data plan. Is there a way to prevent AT&T from charging me for the data plan, so that I can just use the phone without internet access (excluding Wi-fi, obviously)?
I have the same question. Back in October I had a Tilt that didn't have the plan - activated it and had been using the plan until mid January - the phone was stolen out of my car. Using a Blackberry now and they automatically stopped the data plan. I have a new Fuze on the way and don't want to pay the 30 per month as I can use WIFI almost anywhere for free.
Read that their policy is that if you have a smartphone they'll will automatically charge the 30 and activate you if you activate a new phone - but it doesn't specify whether the "new" phone is purchased from them or just through a change in recognition via the SIM.
When I looked at my account in January there isn't an option to disable the data plan - used to be there - so I'm thinking you use a Smartphone you have to pay. Seem to me a class action lawsuit should be in the works. Many use the phone as a PDA and don't care if we have access 24/7.
Maybe if they upped their speeds and coverage for 3g while lowering the price say to 10 to 15 it would be worth it.
So I'm guessing it can't be done? darn. Damn AT&T!
Unlock it and use t-mobile; that may be your best bet.
i bought my fuze with no data plan so there shouldnt be a problem. as long as you didnt purchase where u received a discount for signing up for a data plan
I bought it used, and it automatically charged me
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I didnt have that problem with AT$T, actually.. i just recently put my wife's sim into my old fuze. with the exception of getting charged for unwanted data that got downloaded automatically, she has had no problems. she doesn't use the internet so it is fine. I just had AT&T block any data from her line. ( her line is no longer under contract, and i would like to keep it that way...)
I do actually have a question of my own... (didn't want to start a new thread)....
she does want to send and receive picture messages, we have unlimited messaging, but with the fuze you must have data in order to send or receive MMS. AT&T thinks she still has her old razr.
I would like to set her up with unlimited data plan for the razr, which is only like $10 per month, and was wondering if this would work with the fuze and what settings i might need to change to make it work.
thanks
keith
Sorry, but from how it looks now.. No you can't.. if you use Data, they will catch you that you are using a Fuze... the only "work around" I know is this... She can set up a yahoo, gmail, or simmilar account to just use with her phone... Then whenever she is in a WiFi area, she can send and receive picture email.. she can take the picture and compose them anytimes.. just has to wait to send them til she can use the WiFi.... MMS accounts can both send and receive with people who use email.... where they put in the send, instead of a phone number, they just put in an email address (go ahead, try it yourself, I know you want to )
As far as her sending her pictured emails to peoples phones, she just needs to know what carrier they use.. Then enter their #, and the rest of their
"email" address from this site : http://modmyi.com/wiki/index.php/MMS_Email_Addresses
She can avoid having to look up their address if the person who wants to share pictures with simply sends a message first to her phones email account using their phone... Then she just simple has to reply I know this is probally not the answer you were looking for, but it woudl work and save you having to pay the $35 for AT&T PDA Data....
I've never had a problem not having a data plan on my account. I bought it refurbished from AT&T and there was no data plan required for activation. I even temporarily added a data plan, then took it off again the next day just last month. I was never hassled or given the run-around at any point. Maybe you should just try changing the IMEI back to the Fuze and see what happens. It might also be a good idea to install NoData and disable the two data connections first, just so it never tries to connect.
I also dont want a data plan( cant afford it). My question is how can i make it not use wap for internet and only use wifi, when i do need it to receive data for mms. Thats included in my messaging plan but I have par per use internet and media net. I want to make sure that it doesnt connect to the network for internet or media net and I can only do internet through wifi. How do I do this? I tried just turning data off but it automatically turned back on when i hit the browser. How do i make it only use wifi? Thanks
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I also dont want a data plan( cant afford it). My question is how can i make it not use wap for internet and only use wifi, when i do need it to receive data for mms. Thats included in my messaging plan but I have par per use internet and media net. I want to make sure that it doesnt connect to the network for internet or media net and I can only do internet through wifi. How do I do this? I tried just turning data off but it automatically turned back on when i hit the browser. How do i make it only use wifi? Thanks
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You can always get a data block on your plan, so when you accidentally try to use data, it wont connect, thus making ATT not know you have a PDA... therefore wifi is the best and only option!
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I didnt have that problem with AT$T, actually.. i just recently put my wife's sim into my old fuze. with the exception of getting charged for unwanted data that got downloaded automatically, she has had no problems. she doesn't use the internet so it is fine. I just had AT&T block any data from her line. ( her line is no longer under contract, and i would like to keep it that way...)
I do actually have a question of my own... (didn't want to start a new thread)....
she does want to send and receive picture messages, we have unlimited messaging, but with the fuze you must have data in order to send or receive MMS. AT&T thinks she still has her old razr.
I would like to set her up with unlimited data plan for the razr, which is only like $10 per month, and was wondering if this would work with the fuze and what settings i might need to change to make it work.
thanks
keith
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I used to have an old Samsung flip that I actually flipped into two pieces. When I replaced it with a used Blackjack I simply went into AT&T and had them add the $30 MEdia Net package (Unlimited Data, Unlimited Msgs) because it showed that I still had the old Samsung flip. I had been using my Blackjack for about 2 months and there was no recognition. Now I'm using the Fuze with no problem. As long as your plan doesn't show that you are using a smartphone (IE you bought one from them) then you should be ok. I've been doing this for over a year with no problems.
In the same boat. Just bought a Rhodium & I'm wondering what I can use my Fuze for. I wanna give it to my dad whose line has no data, or use it as a back-up and cancel my handset insurance. Can I switch between devices on my sim which has a data plan? Can I use it as a wi-fi only browsing device(my Tilt 2 won't connect via wi-fi, it seems, the SIM having never been installed)? I could try data block on the account or data block software & put his SIM in. I thought the rationale for the data plan requirement was that the company could only make a profit, while subsidizing the price of these devices, by charging more than a fee for monthly voice service over the term of the contract and that, after the contract, the device is now mine(not rendered useless as even a phone should one not have a data plan), free and clear, to do with as I wish, or at least to use wi-fi without a plan(like my Tilt 2 is not doing)
When I got my FUZE in April, 2009 the saleswoman said that I could cancel the data plan in 6 months.. Online there was never an option to disable the data plan so I called and had it canceled that way. Now that it was canceled though, online does show that there is an option of no data plan. I bet though if I re-added the data plan that disable option will disappear again.
You can use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610657
to block your data from ever being used. I use this to turn off AT&T ISP GPRS and MEdia Net. You can still send/receive texts and go online through WiFi.
@TheGlowingCurve, I don't believe just being an unlocked phone helps, my previous phones are all unlocked now but if I put my SIM in them again, att.com immediately changes my account's phone picture and model to the phone the SIM card is in. They know ALL about what phone you're using.
EDIT: I've never understood the relevance of http://www.htcclassaction.org/ to the Raphael. That site says there is no 3D acceleration or acceleration of videos and whatnot but of course there is acceleration. There is an ATI driver cab and it allows running of 3D programs like Diamond Hologram and COD2, not to mention TouchFLO3D and Sense UI. I don't even think that driver cab is needed because I honestly don't even install it. Video acceleration may not work in CorePlayer, but the solution is easy, don't use CorePlayer! The included Windows Media Player and Album programs are both accelerated and capable of playing H264 videos smoothly. The problems mentioned in http://www.htcclassaction.org/ have nothing to do with our phone and in the site's updates (which are all at least 2 years old!) it even says the Touch Diamond at release had 3D capabilities already.
I'm pretty sure your issues with the FUZE have to do with WM itself, not with HTC's phone.
I too had a tilt, but i put the sim card in teh new fuze i bought. Both of my phones have no data.
I got some bull**** out of them in december when i asked. But i called in the other day, and it was like oh yeah np. No more data.
Because i was a cingular customer im grandfathered in. If you had a PDA prior to november of last year, you also are grandfathered in.
dont take no for an answer.
Just to be clear, ive now shut data off and turned it on on the fuze alone 6 times. LOL
freekquency said:
I too had a tilt, but i put the sim card in teh new fuze i bought. Both of my phones have no data.
I got some bull**** out of them in december when i asked. But i called in the other day, and it was like oh yeah np. No more data.
Because i was a cingular customer im grandfathered in. If you had a PDA prior to november of last year, you also are grandfathered in.
dont take no for an answer.
Just to be clear, ive now shut data off and turned it on on the fuze alone 6 times. LOL
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So you bought the FUZE after November of last year?
Did you have to call them each time to shut down the data plan? Is the charge for that prorated?
lol so now that AT&T removed their unlimited data plan and introduced limited data plans, what happens with future smart phones? Will AT&T require the higher priced data plan?
EDIT: http://gizmodo.com/5555561/hey-att-we-want-rollover-bytes
i just got a fuze from the MP and bam less than 3 hours after taking my sim card out of my pantech impact which had the unlim data and text on our family plan ..they nailed me for the fuze and changed me to the 25 dollar smartphone plan .... should i switch back to the impact and just tell them i was fixing a freinds phone and shut off the data connection on the fuze and get the 30 dollar plan again or wont it work
Using the Fuze with no data plan and using WiFi.
Well there's actually some things to keep in mind here. Being that I have had some experience with AT&T smartphones for busiensses, I know that this is a sore spot to their network users. If you're using a PDA and haven't switched the IMEI online, you're bound to receive a bill from AT&T if you're using the WAP settings from the stock AT&T ROM build. To get around this, unlock your SIM, change the IMEI online, use NoData, and set up your phone to search and prompt you for WiFi hotspots. Turn the phone off or to Airplane mode also from the connection manager. There are plenty that are free once you're in their area, or near an open private WIFI network area. Simply connect, and send all of your data via Wifi connections. This will keep the device from auto-detecting the AT&T WAP and/or using the WAP settings.
One extra step that I take is to erase your WAP data completely from the connection manager so that it's not automatically recognizing the AT&T network settings. You can then choose your settings when needed using any GSM network anywhere in the world, but be careful! This can be expensive if you're not watching your settings. Unlocking your SIM is a MUST! If you're smart, you can set up a T-Mobile prepay account to use the partner(AT&T) GSM network when needed, if needed. This will normally cost you $.99 per day to use.
I hope this helps you better understand the WAP settings. One note.....trash the stock AT&T ROM for one that you'll find here on this site. There have been many that have worked hard to modify this device so that you can fully experience the device fully.
ok i bought my fuze from someone here at xda and he wasnt sure if it is unlocked or not
how can i find out i dont have access to a tmobile sim ..how do i change the imei online
and if i dont have a data connection will the time and weather still update and im using Tael rom ..the weird thing is i had a fuze that got stolen that i was using on the 30 dollar unlimited plan that i singed up for in feb2010 when i got service them and got the samsung impression free then switched to my fuze and they never caught on but like i said in my post above when my gf hooked us up on the family plan with the impacts ..when i switched to my new fuze they got me quick ..and this fuze is setup the same way as my previuos fuze