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What's the best video format for this PDA? What format plays it best? (Without fps drops). I've ordered the TC but it's still on it's way so I started preparing by getting the correct programs for it.
Thanks in advance.
Try DivX Converter.
jant90 said:
What's the best video format for this PDA? What format plays it best? (Without fps drops). I've ordered the TC but it's still on it's way so I started preparing by getting the correct programs for it.
Thanks in advance.
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Pocket Divx Encoder - it is free and it does the job..
Just leave the settings as is and do 320x240 resolution - I am not experiencing any issues with videos done like this.
Top Tip. Thanks Nikiiv. Will try it today.
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Pocket Divx Encoder - it is free and it does the job..
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Great program (with free xVid), but DivX Converter is better.
Whichever converter you use isn't particularly important. The OP asked about video *formats*. Down-sizing an AVI to 320x240 (as mentioned above) certainly seems to work fine on my TC - 227% on Core Player during a high action scene. So that's certainly what I'd recommend - AVI, 320x240...
avi is not a true format though it's a container which can include various formats
divx being one of the nicer ones
think it's the same with mov from apple it also have various formats like mp4 and others
Can anyone do some speed comparison on DivX vs. Xvid?
Or perhaps 3GP plays more efficiently? Or some other format?
Has anyone done some testing with this? Taken a source file and converted it to the various formats a TC can handle, and seen which of these formats gets handled best?
I have tried a few different formats (I converted Holy Grail; Life of Brian and Meaning of Life so I can have them witn me at all times). I had set them all to convert at 320x 240.
I used Roxio10 to do the conversions.
I had initially been playing back on WM Player but found CorePlayer better ito ease of use and DivX playback.
3GP: smallest size of about 118MB; video was a little too blocky and there was some Video/Audio lag.
WMV9: large size, excellent picture quality but very choppy video and some Video/Audio lag.
WMDevices: as in WMV9 but much less choppiness and better Video/Audio lag.
DivX:
Large size (about 408-448MB per movie); excellent picture quality, no VIdeo/Audio lag.
Therefore, I deleted all other formats and now just use DivX with Coreplayer.
Videos/Movies are stored on a Sandisk 6GB Micro-SDHC card.
Hope this helps you with your choices.
T
Turnipio said:
I have tried a few different formats (I converted Holy Grail; Life of Brian and Meaning of Life so I can have them witn me at all times). I had set them all to convert at 320x 240.
I used Roxio10 to do the conversions.
I had initially been playing back on WM Player but found CorePlayer better ito ease of use and DivX playback.
3GP: smallest size of about 118MB; video was a little too blocky and there was some Video/Audio lag.
WMV9: large size, excellent picture quality but very choppy video and some Video/Audio lag.
WMDevices: as in WMV9 but much less choppiness and better Video/Audio lag.
DivX:
Large size (about 408-448MB per movie); excellent picture quality, no VIdeo/Audio lag.
Therefore, I deleted all other formats and now just use DivX with Coreplayer.
Videos/Movies are stored on a Sandisk 6GB Micro-SDHC card.
Hope this helps you with your choices.
T
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That was really useful, thanks. I'm already using CloneDVD Mobile to convert my DVDs (to DivX, 320 x 240) and it does the job really well. I'm using the generic DivX setting, 1 pass and quality set at 66 (I think I can have it lower without a visible quality loss), cropping of the black bars at the top and bottom (full letterbox zoom) and including subtitles of choice. It only takes around 30~ minutes to convert an entire DVD. File got 1,05 GB at this quality though. Also I saw that CloneDVD is using DivX4, will this be a problem? (Latest version is 6).
Now I just need a program to convert my movie files, I tried Pocket Divx Encoder quickly but it gave me errors. I'll play with it some more.
Thanks again,
Jan
I use SUPER as my video converter between any type of video files and I think it's pretty good and is also free!:
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html
Cheers.
= J =
profitoral said:
I use SUPER as my video converter between any type of video files and I think it's pretty good and is also free!:
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html
Cheers.
= J =
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Good tip, the program looks really nice! Too bad the lastest version is bugged for Vista users (like me). How is this program handling subs (if you tested it)? I believe it can only encode subs via DirectShow, right?
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Good tip, the program looks really nice! Too bad the lastest version is bugged for Vista users (like me). How is this program handling subs (if you tested it)? I believe it can only encode subs via DirectShow, right?
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I never tried subs... I think I would go blind trying to watch them in such small screen
Cheers.
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Hmm, SUPER is doing a good job but I can't combine cropping with resizing, I wanna crop my 16:9 movies to 4:3, but the cropsettings get overwritten by the resize settings. Also I'm more looking for a one-click-crops-all solution, like CloneDVD Mobile is doing with it's letterbox zoom option. Does anybody know if there is such a program?
Playing DivX files with CorePlayer produces a nervous audio sync effect, that is impossible to get just right, even with tweaking the a/v sync.
Playing them with DivX Player mobile is the best, after you adjust the player's a/v sync to about +.25 s.
Anyone else done this?
edan said:
Playing DivX files with CorePlayer produces a nervous audio sync effect, that is impossible to get just right, even with tweaking the a/v sync.
Playing them with DivX Player mobile is the best, after you adjust the player's a/v sync to about +.25 s.
Anyone else done this?
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Adjusting it to -0.25s seemed to help me immensely with my sync issues, both in Core player and TCPMP. With Coreplayer, QTV and Medium quality a 512*288 DivX of Jericho seems watchable without any noticeable slowdowns. Will be doing some more testing, and will see if I can try DivX Mobile too..
*Edit* Wow DivX Mobile was awful. Horrible framerate AND quality, hardly any settings to choose from, and the interface was terrible too. That's not staying on my memorycard..
I just installed the updated CorePlayer, the previous one made picture taking unusable, and did the -.25 a/v sync, and it really looks good. I hardly notice any dropped frames.
I've pinned the CorePlayer shortcut to directly to the touchFlo cube. That's the best we can get right now...
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Good tip, the program looks really nice! Too bad the lastest version is bugged for Vista users (like me). How is this program handling subs (if you tested it)? I believe it can only encode subs via DirectShow, right?
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Don't know about you two, but I would try the damned Super program if the website wasn't so flawed (not to mention verbose) as to bring me about in circles. And yes, I did read his note about empyting my cache and Java, and blah blah blah, he needs to fix that website.
Edit: Just found the actual link after skimming everyingthing, I'll edit this post w/my impressions once I try it out.
I´m using Spb Mobile DVD.
XviD - 25fps - 320x240 - 500kbit/sec
Playing this stuff with CorePlayer 1.2.0.. Its perfect
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I just installed the updated CorePlayer, the previous one made picture taking unusable
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Which version caused problems, and which version do you have now?
How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.
For best performance, it's best that you convert it. The more you start doing it and mess with the settings, the better you'll become and find which settings yield the best results.
I originally tried Quicktime Pro for this, but the people at Apple have decided that the iPhone screen is the biggest resolution they want to support on export, and I don't want the player scaling up, so I had to look elsewhere.
I'm playing with a program called Allok MPEG4 converter (http://www.alloksoft.com/mp4_converter.htm), which seems to do a nice job if a bit slowly. Of course, to do a nice job requires LOTS of processing power. I have been using the defaults except for making the output H264 and 640x480. Once the files are converted, I just copy them to the Fuze's SD card and play them from there.
I use a program called VideoReDo (www.videoredo.com) to suck in the DVD files and make a single large MPG file from them (the free DVDShrink will also work for this, if you can still find it somewhere), then load that single file into Allok and let it run. A decent DVD will take pretty much overnight to process. The results have been very good so far.
Start with a small (5 minutes or so) piece to practice with and try various settings, then when you're happy, let the full movie conversion run overnight.
Also, be aware that most commercial DVD's will have DRM and you will have to deal with that before you can do anything with the files.
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How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.
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If you are converting from an .avi file then you can try PocketDivXEncoder (freeware). It has presets for Diamond which you should start with. You should decide whether you want VGA or QVGA. VGA should look a little sharper but will be ~30% increase in file size and on a 2.8" screen the difference may not be much. Test for your self
I would modify some of the settings though. Leave video as is. Change the audio (small arrow on the left) to 32Khz 80 kbps stereo. Go to advanced and tick 2-Pass and Xvid.
What is your source file for the movie? If its on DVD then you definately want to convert it. Once all of my media is ripped or converted to the container / format I want I leave it at computer base resolution and just play it on the phone. Core player has done pretty well at handleing what I put at it so far.
Now that PocketDivx Encoder is a good program and does a pretty good job and shrinking files down.
Any recommendations on codecs, resolution and bitrate? I would especially be interested if anyone knew which settings preserved battery life the best while watching video.
Menneisyys has a good thread on video playback.
I use Core Player and I really don't covert any of the TV shows that I watch.
Windows Movie Maker is a great tool too. Its free (if you have XP SP2 installed) and it uses WMV format that Windows Media Player Mobile will play without any addons.
If you watch alot of movies on your Touch Pro I would suggest investing in Core Player, it plays most of the commonly used codex and its pretty quick too.
Bit rates and resolutions: I have found that if its a TV show that is about 40 to an hour, I dont have to do anything with it. For example an episode of House is about 42 minutes long, its 624x352 and running at 23.97 frames. With Core Player the episode looks flawless, eventhough the statistics on Core Player say its dropping frames, I can't tell.
I would think that a full length movie would perform a little worse, or a TV show with alot of action.
Also fatheadpi has this thread posted about encoding video for the Raphael phones.
Thanks for all the reply's. I'll try them out.
Watch Movies on Fuze Problems
So I got an HTC FUZE not too long ago and have been trying desperately to get it to play movies.
Windows Mobile Player does not want to play the wmv files I give it...
and no matter what file I use with CorePlayer the audio is terrible
mpegs, mp4, avi, h.264...
All of these videos will play fine on my computer but as soon as I get it to my phone, the audio goes to crap.
To make it all more difficult, I only have a Mac to sync this device with, so Windows based programs are useless to me...
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks all,
'Jammin
I too have been trying and so far no Success
Operating my Fuze in cooperation with a Mac Laptop is difficult enough. The programs most suggest to convert videos exist mainly for PC.
I have used many methods of conversion and found no luck with producing watchable quality on my FUZE
CorePlayer gives me bad audio playback when the video played perfectly on my computer
and Windows Media Player will not play my bigger wmv files for some reason.
Let me know if you found a combo of programs and settings that really works
'Jammin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
I use this and it works great. Converting the video is a pain in the butt.
+1 Take time to convert but yield a much better result in viewing your video in either Album or WMP
Thanks for the info, but isn't that program for PC's?
I have many different methods of converting videos
from freeware that helps me with wmv's (as I am on a Mac and that is somewhat hard to do)
To Final Cut Pro's Compressor and even Adobe's version
Windows Media Player on my Fuze seems not to like any files over 100mb
and even though the video will look awesome on my computer after conversion, the players I use on my phone completely destroy the audio...
I've searched up and down threads like these and am at a complete loss...
qwik question
which is better to convert movies to my fuze spb video or avs video?
sorry people
um what size micro sd card on average would I need to store the videos?
get at minimum a 4GB microSDHC... under $8 if you're lucky
or a 8GB for $16... no reason to jump for that now that memory isn't that expensive
Use coreplayer bro
I bought it, and its amazing $29.95... Don't convert anything that I get. It only has trouble with on6 flv files, and devs say it'll never support codec. Shame, because flash 9 and 10 protected movies are almost all encoded with this...
A small ffmpeg utility can run one through flv to avi, keeping aspect and original source resoultion, and process a 1.5 hour flv file in about 3 minutes and give you a great quality avi output for your phone
With TCPMP I get lag when watching full movies, but Coreplayer is fine
Set video to the qtv display, high quality.
If you've got bad audio, perhaps you need to lower the pre-am if muffled, or increase if quiet
Also, you may have equaliser enabled, and not know it.
Check the options section go through pages
There definatley should not be a problem playing media with this program
Only problem now is.... I bought this... ya sweet - but now can't afford to get my raph unlocked until next month
So still without a mobile
xhypnotik said:
How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.
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News Flash
Disney released Wall-E on DVD and Blue Ray discs. I have yet to see a cell phone with a built in DVD or Blue Ray player.
The motion picture experts group (standards body)...MPEG for short, many years ago, decided to evolve the distribution techology (for consumers), from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4. MPEG-4 is a broad spec and covers everything from small hand held devices to HD quality video (H.264, VC-1 etc).
Your Touch Pro has built in hardware acceleration to handle MP4 up to a reasonable limit. Your best built in video players, as delivered by the OEM, are HTC Album and Windows Media Player. Both apps support hardware accleration for MP4 video.
I continue to read about (and have purchased) Coreplayer. In the mobile space, Coreplayer is a modest improvement over the free open source TCPMP player. CorePlayer, caused a brief stir when they half-hacked into the (modest) built in hardware acceleration on the HTC Kaiser.
On a Touch Pro, Coreplayer does support non industry standard video formats, but only in software mode (slowly rendered down sized formats). Coreplayer fails dismally, when compared to Album or WMP for MP4 playback.
So...yes, convert your content to a fully supported format. Or...leech your content in supported formats. Search this forrum and you'll find guidance, and free conversion tools.
Yo guys. i have installed both players on my leo. i like the tcpmp player the best because you can have ac3 plugin and subtitles. BUT its like it plays with a lower framerate than coreplayer? the fact is that movies exactly feels a bit too laggy so it gets annoying when watching on the tcpmp player. any know why or maybe got a solution?
regards alf
Same dilemma for me...
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any got a solution to the laggy tcpmp?
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any got a solution to the laggy tcpmp?
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there is no solution. coreplayer comes later and it's more optimized, but it doesn't have ac3 and subtitles support. Give and take....
just to add to the debate, this hd2 which I'm writing from, during a benchmark on tje opening of sex&the city, had 170+% speed in coreplayer, and 90-% in tcpmp...looks prety normal to me, asv previous poster sais, coreplayr developent went on, while tcpmp has stopped some years ago
a little OT question...what type of subs tcpmp read? because i tryed with tons of SRT but i dont understand how to let theme works
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=155
That thread talks of AC3 support via a purchasable plugin, confirmed as being in development by one of the developers back in 2007. However, it constantly got put back by the look of it until in the end the thread was locked after a very good point regarding the lack of a Coreplayer demo by the last poster. Shame.
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any got a solution to the laggy tcpmp?
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I think it's a problem related to the use of cpu. If you launch tcpmp just after a boot (before it scales down to about 400 Mhz) you'll see that it is faaaast (yesterday I used this method to watch a 960x400 divx AC3). It remain fast as long as you don't leave the phone to go to rest...
I usually use Coreplayer, this method when I have a movie with subtitle or AC3
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a little OT question...what type of subs tcpmp read? because i tryed with tons of SRT but i dont understand how to let theme works
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You have to use the right version and use GDI (if I remember correctly) as video driver.
Srt are ok, with older versions you had to use smi files (you could use subtitle workshop to convert them)
Check this thread for a TCPMP player that works fine on HD2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631061
Check this thread for a TCPMP player that works fine on HD2
it also supports subtitles
it works ok, wothout a single modification to the player settings
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631061
Check this thread for a TCPMP player that works fine on HD2
it also supports subtitles
it works ok, wothout a single modification to the player settings
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thx a lot bro
Hi all,
anyone know a player that I can throw anything below and including 720p (especially: Star Wars: The Clone Wars 720p MKV releases - these shinies have AC3 sound and x264 video) at and it will play fluently on a HD2 without having to re-code them?
TCPMP may, depending on the version you get ahold of, either crash, don't play the video or the sound or have massive stuttering issues (hello? a HD2 has a 1 GHz/750MHz CPU? And an acceleration unit?).
CorePlayer... well, needs a recode as it doesn't know AC3. Any way to give him a 3rd party plugin?!
Marco
plus1 its a shame VLC doesnt go
Moved as not software release.
You'll find that the data read speed from SD won't be up to the task, MKV can be turned into .avi without a long recode time. "i'll update later as friend can provide more info just mem him saying it was done in minutes"
the point is, I want to save me the recoding time and diskspace...
I have AC3 plug-in to TCPMP
Me too, but TCPMP is awfully slow in playing stuff (if it loads at all)
What?! AYFKM? TCPMP working very fast and playing non converted AVI movies smooth withiout any audio video async. Try it - for me is much better than Core Player and additionaly is for free.
the core player IS actually tcpmp,but with new brand and some minor stuff
You got one build that is HD2 compatible? Can you pls point me to the thread?
Is there any video player that can play .flv files?
It seems after flv files are converted to mp4 audio/video is out of sync for the HD2 video player, so I'd like to know is there any good video player that can be installed and thanks!
having same problem
gtb5 said:
Is there any video player that can play .flv files?
It seems after flv files are converted to mp4 audio/video is out of sync for the HD2 video player, so I'd like to know is there any good video player that can be installed and thanks!
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i have a same problem foe playing and watching movie files that have a .flv type. and now idont know what can i do for this
Try this soft to convert FLV to AVI
Coreplayer or the free version TCPMP will both play FLV files.
Hello, I'm using ( Aimersoft Video Converter ) and the profile of the iPhone 3GS the quality is brilliant and very very smooth , try it and give me a reply , i've been using it since i bought the HD2 and i just love it !
Hope it will work for every one of U .
Hanybv
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Coreplayer or the free version TCPMP will both play FLV files.
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+1 for coreplayer or TCPMP. Why take the time to convert videos when you can simply play them?
I bought coreplayer ... It's the one for me and a good prize too
Tried coreplayer and it's having problem in my unit, the video will be messed up and has to restart don't know why.
This video converter is very good, with the ability to re-sync audio (not that I have needed to yet). It was developed for the HD by an xda member. But yeah, TCPMP or Coreplayer will work if you don't want to convert it.
Thanks gotta give it another try.
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Tried coreplayer and it's having problem in my unit, the video will be messed up and has to restart don't know why.
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Switch your video codec to DirectDraw then it will work like charm. Look for more tweaks in coreplayer forum.
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Switch your video codec to DirectDraw then it will work like charm. Look for more tweaks in coreplayer forum.
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Oh thanks but please let me know how to change video codec.
COREPLAYER: Menu > Tools > Settings > Select Page > Video > Video Output - change to DirectDraw
TCPMP: Options > Video > DirectDraw
In coreplayer, just make sure that a video is NOT playing when you do this....it tends to crash and forces you to do a soft reset (at least it does for me!)
I have no probs playing flv with coreplayer or TCPMP, I just prefer Coreplayer.
Thanks so much, actually GDI codec works for me but there's still very slight sync issue for some videos.
You may also want to try Chainfire's 3d drivers (if you haven't already)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592663 (not the beta drivers - yet!)
Some people have said it improves DirectDraw performance in Coreplayer, but I never had any problems before, so I can't really say yes or no to that! The drivers do help with other apps too, so I would say they are worth installing anyway.
I think there is a known problem with the HD2 and video/audio sync, but again (lucky me), I've never noticed it.
Col.