How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.
For best performance, it's best that you convert it. The more you start doing it and mess with the settings, the better you'll become and find which settings yield the best results.
I originally tried Quicktime Pro for this, but the people at Apple have decided that the iPhone screen is the biggest resolution they want to support on export, and I don't want the player scaling up, so I had to look elsewhere.
I'm playing with a program called Allok MPEG4 converter (http://www.alloksoft.com/mp4_converter.htm), which seems to do a nice job if a bit slowly. Of course, to do a nice job requires LOTS of processing power. I have been using the defaults except for making the output H264 and 640x480. Once the files are converted, I just copy them to the Fuze's SD card and play them from there.
I use a program called VideoReDo (www.videoredo.com) to suck in the DVD files and make a single large MPG file from them (the free DVDShrink will also work for this, if you can still find it somewhere), then load that single file into Allok and let it run. A decent DVD will take pretty much overnight to process. The results have been very good so far.
Start with a small (5 minutes or so) piece to practice with and try various settings, then when you're happy, let the full movie conversion run overnight.
Also, be aware that most commercial DVD's will have DRM and you will have to deal with that before you can do anything with the files.
xhypnotik said:
How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you are converting from an .avi file then you can try PocketDivXEncoder (freeware). It has presets for Diamond which you should start with. You should decide whether you want VGA or QVGA. VGA should look a little sharper but will be ~30% increase in file size and on a 2.8" screen the difference may not be much. Test for your self
I would modify some of the settings though. Leave video as is. Change the audio (small arrow on the left) to 32Khz 80 kbps stereo. Go to advanced and tick 2-Pass and Xvid.
What is your source file for the movie? If its on DVD then you definately want to convert it. Once all of my media is ripped or converted to the container / format I want I leave it at computer base resolution and just play it on the phone. Core player has done pretty well at handleing what I put at it so far.
Now that PocketDivx Encoder is a good program and does a pretty good job and shrinking files down.
Any recommendations on codecs, resolution and bitrate? I would especially be interested if anyone knew which settings preserved battery life the best while watching video.
Menneisyys has a good thread on video playback.
I use Core Player and I really don't covert any of the TV shows that I watch.
Windows Movie Maker is a great tool too. Its free (if you have XP SP2 installed) and it uses WMV format that Windows Media Player Mobile will play without any addons.
If you watch alot of movies on your Touch Pro I would suggest investing in Core Player, it plays most of the commonly used codex and its pretty quick too.
Bit rates and resolutions: I have found that if its a TV show that is about 40 to an hour, I dont have to do anything with it. For example an episode of House is about 42 minutes long, its 624x352 and running at 23.97 frames. With Core Player the episode looks flawless, eventhough the statistics on Core Player say its dropping frames, I can't tell.
I would think that a full length movie would perform a little worse, or a TV show with alot of action.
Also fatheadpi has this thread posted about encoding video for the Raphael phones.
Thanks for all the reply's. I'll try them out.
Watch Movies on Fuze Problems
So I got an HTC FUZE not too long ago and have been trying desperately to get it to play movies.
Windows Mobile Player does not want to play the wmv files I give it...
and no matter what file I use with CorePlayer the audio is terrible
mpegs, mp4, avi, h.264...
All of these videos will play fine on my computer but as soon as I get it to my phone, the audio goes to crap.
To make it all more difficult, I only have a Mac to sync this device with, so Windows based programs are useless to me...
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks all,
'Jammin
I too have been trying and so far no Success
Operating my Fuze in cooperation with a Mac Laptop is difficult enough. The programs most suggest to convert videos exist mainly for PC.
I have used many methods of conversion and found no luck with producing watchable quality on my FUZE
CorePlayer gives me bad audio playback when the video played perfectly on my computer
and Windows Media Player will not play my bigger wmv files for some reason.
Let me know if you found a combo of programs and settings that really works
'Jammin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
I use this and it works great. Converting the video is a pain in the butt.
+1 Take time to convert but yield a much better result in viewing your video in either Album or WMP
Thanks for the info, but isn't that program for PC's?
I have many different methods of converting videos
from freeware that helps me with wmv's (as I am on a Mac and that is somewhat hard to do)
To Final Cut Pro's Compressor and even Adobe's version
Windows Media Player on my Fuze seems not to like any files over 100mb
and even though the video will look awesome on my computer after conversion, the players I use on my phone completely destroy the audio...
I've searched up and down threads like these and am at a complete loss...
qwik question
which is better to convert movies to my fuze spb video or avs video?
sorry people
um what size micro sd card on average would I need to store the videos?
get at minimum a 4GB microSDHC... under $8 if you're lucky
or a 8GB for $16... no reason to jump for that now that memory isn't that expensive
Use coreplayer bro
I bought it, and its amazing $29.95... Don't convert anything that I get. It only has trouble with on6 flv files, and devs say it'll never support codec. Shame, because flash 9 and 10 protected movies are almost all encoded with this...
A small ffmpeg utility can run one through flv to avi, keeping aspect and original source resoultion, and process a 1.5 hour flv file in about 3 minutes and give you a great quality avi output for your phone
With TCPMP I get lag when watching full movies, but Coreplayer is fine
Set video to the qtv display, high quality.
If you've got bad audio, perhaps you need to lower the pre-am if muffled, or increase if quiet
Also, you may have equaliser enabled, and not know it.
Check the options section go through pages
There definatley should not be a problem playing media with this program
Only problem now is.... I bought this... ya sweet - but now can't afford to get my raph unlocked until next month
So still without a mobile
xhypnotik said:
How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
News Flash
Disney released Wall-E on DVD and Blue Ray discs. I have yet to see a cell phone with a built in DVD or Blue Ray player.
The motion picture experts group (standards body)...MPEG for short, many years ago, decided to evolve the distribution techology (for consumers), from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4. MPEG-4 is a broad spec and covers everything from small hand held devices to HD quality video (H.264, VC-1 etc).
Your Touch Pro has built in hardware acceleration to handle MP4 up to a reasonable limit. Your best built in video players, as delivered by the OEM, are HTC Album and Windows Media Player. Both apps support hardware accleration for MP4 video.
I continue to read about (and have purchased) Coreplayer. In the mobile space, Coreplayer is a modest improvement over the free open source TCPMP player. CorePlayer, caused a brief stir when they half-hacked into the (modest) built in hardware acceleration on the HTC Kaiser.
On a Touch Pro, Coreplayer does support non industry standard video formats, but only in software mode (slowly rendered down sized formats). Coreplayer fails dismally, when compared to Album or WMP for MP4 playback.
So...yes, convert your content to a fully supported format. Or...leech your content in supported formats. Search this forrum and you'll find guidance, and free conversion tools.
Related
What's the best video format for this PDA? What format plays it best? (Without fps drops). I've ordered the TC but it's still on it's way so I started preparing by getting the correct programs for it.
Thanks in advance.
Try DivX Converter.
jant90 said:
What's the best video format for this PDA? What format plays it best? (Without fps drops). I've ordered the TC but it's still on it's way so I started preparing by getting the correct programs for it.
Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pocket Divx Encoder - it is free and it does the job..
Just leave the settings as is and do 320x240 resolution - I am not experiencing any issues with videos done like this.
Top Tip. Thanks Nikiiv. Will try it today.
nikiiv said:
Pocket Divx Encoder - it is free and it does the job..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Great program (with free xVid), but DivX Converter is better.
Whichever converter you use isn't particularly important. The OP asked about video *formats*. Down-sizing an AVI to 320x240 (as mentioned above) certainly seems to work fine on my TC - 227% on Core Player during a high action scene. So that's certainly what I'd recommend - AVI, 320x240...
avi is not a true format though it's a container which can include various formats
divx being one of the nicer ones
think it's the same with mov from apple it also have various formats like mp4 and others
Can anyone do some speed comparison on DivX vs. Xvid?
Or perhaps 3GP plays more efficiently? Or some other format?
Has anyone done some testing with this? Taken a source file and converted it to the various formats a TC can handle, and seen which of these formats gets handled best?
I have tried a few different formats (I converted Holy Grail; Life of Brian and Meaning of Life so I can have them witn me at all times). I had set them all to convert at 320x 240.
I used Roxio10 to do the conversions.
I had initially been playing back on WM Player but found CorePlayer better ito ease of use and DivX playback.
3GP: smallest size of about 118MB; video was a little too blocky and there was some Video/Audio lag.
WMV9: large size, excellent picture quality but very choppy video and some Video/Audio lag.
WMDevices: as in WMV9 but much less choppiness and better Video/Audio lag.
DivX:
Large size (about 408-448MB per movie); excellent picture quality, no VIdeo/Audio lag.
Therefore, I deleted all other formats and now just use DivX with Coreplayer.
Videos/Movies are stored on a Sandisk 6GB Micro-SDHC card.
Hope this helps you with your choices.
T
Turnipio said:
I have tried a few different formats (I converted Holy Grail; Life of Brian and Meaning of Life so I can have them witn me at all times). I had set them all to convert at 320x 240.
I used Roxio10 to do the conversions.
I had initially been playing back on WM Player but found CorePlayer better ito ease of use and DivX playback.
3GP: smallest size of about 118MB; video was a little too blocky and there was some Video/Audio lag.
WMV9: large size, excellent picture quality but very choppy video and some Video/Audio lag.
WMDevices: as in WMV9 but much less choppiness and better Video/Audio lag.
DivX:
Large size (about 408-448MB per movie); excellent picture quality, no VIdeo/Audio lag.
Therefore, I deleted all other formats and now just use DivX with Coreplayer.
Videos/Movies are stored on a Sandisk 6GB Micro-SDHC card.
Hope this helps you with your choices.
T
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That was really useful, thanks. I'm already using CloneDVD Mobile to convert my DVDs (to DivX, 320 x 240) and it does the job really well. I'm using the generic DivX setting, 1 pass and quality set at 66 (I think I can have it lower without a visible quality loss), cropping of the black bars at the top and bottom (full letterbox zoom) and including subtitles of choice. It only takes around 30~ minutes to convert an entire DVD. File got 1,05 GB at this quality though. Also I saw that CloneDVD is using DivX4, will this be a problem? (Latest version is 6).
Now I just need a program to convert my movie files, I tried Pocket Divx Encoder quickly but it gave me errors. I'll play with it some more.
Thanks again,
Jan
I use SUPER as my video converter between any type of video files and I think it's pretty good and is also free!:
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html
Cheers.
= J =
profitoral said:
I use SUPER as my video converter between any type of video files and I think it's pretty good and is also free!:
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html
Cheers.
= J =
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good tip, the program looks really nice! Too bad the lastest version is bugged for Vista users (like me). How is this program handling subs (if you tested it)? I believe it can only encode subs via DirectShow, right?
jant90 said:
Good tip, the program looks really nice! Too bad the lastest version is bugged for Vista users (like me). How is this program handling subs (if you tested it)? I believe it can only encode subs via DirectShow, right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I never tried subs... I think I would go blind trying to watch them in such small screen
Cheers.
= J =
Hmm, SUPER is doing a good job but I can't combine cropping with resizing, I wanna crop my 16:9 movies to 4:3, but the cropsettings get overwritten by the resize settings. Also I'm more looking for a one-click-crops-all solution, like CloneDVD Mobile is doing with it's letterbox zoom option. Does anybody know if there is such a program?
Playing DivX files with CorePlayer produces a nervous audio sync effect, that is impossible to get just right, even with tweaking the a/v sync.
Playing them with DivX Player mobile is the best, after you adjust the player's a/v sync to about +.25 s.
Anyone else done this?
edan said:
Playing DivX files with CorePlayer produces a nervous audio sync effect, that is impossible to get just right, even with tweaking the a/v sync.
Playing them with DivX Player mobile is the best, after you adjust the player's a/v sync to about +.25 s.
Anyone else done this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Adjusting it to -0.25s seemed to help me immensely with my sync issues, both in Core player and TCPMP. With Coreplayer, QTV and Medium quality a 512*288 DivX of Jericho seems watchable without any noticeable slowdowns. Will be doing some more testing, and will see if I can try DivX Mobile too..
*Edit* Wow DivX Mobile was awful. Horrible framerate AND quality, hardly any settings to choose from, and the interface was terrible too. That's not staying on my memorycard..
I just installed the updated CorePlayer, the previous one made picture taking unusable, and did the -.25 a/v sync, and it really looks good. I hardly notice any dropped frames.
I've pinned the CorePlayer shortcut to directly to the touchFlo cube. That's the best we can get right now...
jant90 said:
Good tip, the program looks really nice! Too bad the lastest version is bugged for Vista users (like me). How is this program handling subs (if you tested it)? I believe it can only encode subs via DirectShow, right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't know about you two, but I would try the damned Super program if the website wasn't so flawed (not to mention verbose) as to bring me about in circles. And yes, I did read his note about empyting my cache and Java, and blah blah blah, he needs to fix that website.
Edit: Just found the actual link after skimming everyingthing, I'll edit this post w/my impressions once I try it out.
I´m using Spb Mobile DVD.
XviD - 25fps - 320x240 - 500kbit/sec
Playing this stuff with CorePlayer 1.2.0.. Its perfect
edan said:
I just installed the updated CorePlayer, the previous one made picture taking unusable
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which version caused problems, and which version do you have now?
Hi, I put some videos on my phone and it plays so slowly and skippy (sorry dont know how to explain) that it upset me !!
what do I have to do?
this videos are WMV format
what kind of formats play well? or what?
Are you for REAL???????????????????? You must be a brother to Jeb, say it aint so!
This might help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
Send me your phone via Postal Mail and I will fix the video problem for you.
I understand the problem. I have some files that have similar issues. Each video is coded for a specific bandwidth. If you have an XP machine you can open Windows Movie Maker (its on there!) and load the video into it. From there save the video out (Ctrl-P) and set the video rate to something under 250Kbps. I usually use 218Kbps. The file will likely shrink in size and will play very well on the phone. You can set it larger but you will start to see performance degrade.
Movies encoded in Divx format at 320x240, audio at 95 to 128kbps Stereo with a total bitrate under 500kbps play and look great on Kaiser. Movies are approx. 400-500mb per Movie. I just flew cross country and watched 5 movies across 4 flights and can say that the Kaiser performed flawlessly. Using TCPMP (I have core as well but use TCPMP and the streaming bundles for now) and WoW SRS, the audio thru wired noise cancelling earbuds was really excellent with suprisingly good bass!
Bottom line, I know it could be better with the correct drivers, but if you encode in this fashion this phone kicks ass as an all-in-one device. With 1.2gig taken for iGuidance and North America maps, I still carry 12 full length movies and still have room for pics and progs on my 8gig card.
I've playing around with a Windows Mobile 6.1 phone and wasn't satisfied with the Windows Media Player.
When it is opening a video, the video is all choppy but the program becomes totally unresponsive
Seeking is just a guessing game. I hold down the rewind/forward button and don't really have a clear idea where the video is going to stop at all.
Just wondering are there any good alternatives video players that will load faster and be more responsive?
The only three players I've looked at was:
TCPMP which seems very good...except I'm not sure how I'm supposed to install it and customize it (I think there was some plugin to get it to play FLV files?).
Core Player Mobile seemed pretty good as well.
PocketTV didn't seem to support many formats.
In general, I use Avidemux to change videos (AVI's or FLV's) I find online to MP4's with MPEG4-SP video and AAC audio. I wouldn't mind be able to run FLV files without having to process them or being able to encode h.264 video but that's not too important to me.
What is important to me is a responsive and fast video player.
Any suggestions?
I use CorePlayer and it's wonderful.. don't see any reason to use anything else.
which device do you have?
PanTech Matrix Pro
Apparently someone involved in the project was a college buddy of my dad or something.
Though I did notice a weird issue...the frames don't seem to update at the same time...
Like whenever the screen flashes or something moves suddenly, I can notice that the bottom half of the screen tends to update before the top half of the screen.
And the division of the screen is rarely in the same place.
So basically if the video is flashing black and white, the screen looks like a wave of black and white is moving from the bottom on the screen to the top in a real jerky manner.
Really annoying when...well...anything moves.
Does it for all my videos even if the video is low fps and an easy codec.
The default windows media player doesn't do it...but the default players pretty sucks in every other way.
Any idea of how I can tweak it?
I'm using 1.3 for Windows Mobile 6.1
edit: Hmmm...setting the video driver to GDI seems to make it slightly less noticeable.
im with nir i sue coreplayer ansdi t plays pretty much every codec and theres no need to install extra codecs
this includes divx
its not free but worth it
You can use TCPMP if you want some thing free and good
Oh I tried. But Coreplayer's h264 playback is amazing to me.
movie player
i had coreplayer but its freezing on me so what else can I use?
it froze on me too!
CorePlayer is fantastic - the only drawback that I have occured so far is that fact that it cannot play AC3 sound files commonly found in *.avi files...otherwise, it is brilliant. Worth the money in my opinion.
No need to encode or whatever, usually I just drag and drop video files onto my phone and it plays it just fine...much better than converting through iTunes ....unfortunately no 720p/1080p just yet, but that's just asking for too much
I have been using an older version of DVDFab v8.0.7.3 to convert dvd's to m4v files to watch on my phones. All of my older movies play fine. Anything I convert now with this newer version will not play. They will play fine on my computer but not my TBolt. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Anyone familiar with DVDFab v8.0.8.5 feel like giving me a little heads up?
Try avi format.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
I'll try that but why would all my other videos that are m4v work and just not the new ones?
ignitros said:
I'll try that but why would all my other videos that are m4v work and just not the new ones?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What are you using to play the video. Try a different player.
I have the stock video player and the 3d gallery one. But that still doesn't explain why my older videos work and the newer one don't unless there is a problem with the new program I'm ripping from vs the older version.
I've used Badaboom, Xilisoft Video and AVS to convert videos. If you're really nuts like me, first you use SlySoft to remove the DRM from the DVD in your computer's optical drive. Then I use 1ClickDVDCopyPro to rip the DVD into a folder on my hard drive.
From that hard drive folder I use AVS Video Converter (v7) to create a video from the profile for Android devices with some slight modifications. I change the frame size to 800x480 or 720x480. I also change the audio down to 128kbps (just to save space). The bitrate for the video I go between 800 and 1500, depending. For documentaries and dramas, 800 to save space and 1500 for action movies to give a cleaner video playback.
Then use RockPlayer (download the ARM v7 - don't use the universal player) to playback the MP4 video. That's the best success I've had with converting my own video.
Usually anything that I download from the Internet, I use the Xilisoft Video Converter (v6.5.3) to create pretty much the same thing as the DVD rips. The reason I don't use Xilisoft for DVD rips is the way it reads the IFO files from DVD's. The AVS software is pretty intuitive for the files based on the IFO. I also try to download the highest quality I can find so I don't lose much in re-encoding the video to a lower bitrate.
Good luck. Hope that rambling above helps.
Oh yeah. Forgot to mention. I've used Badaboom, but found it slow and didn't seem to make my video conversions better or equal to the AVS or Xilisoft converters. Hard to tell on the TB because of the small screen, but when viewed on the computer it looks worse by comparison.
Plus, the Xilisoft CUDA seems to work faster (I have a new Intel Sandy Bridge with a GTX 460 for processing) than the Badaboom. Xilisoft converts 4 videos at a time on my computer, each hour long video taking about 15-20 minutes to complete (simultaneously). Very nice.
Well... I tried that Rock Player and it works okay. I still can't figure out for the life of me why my other videos play when they were created the same way as the newer ones. Rock player seems to play them fine and the stock player plays the avi files I created I just don't think they look as good as the m4v ones I made previously. I guess I'm just going to have to fool around with it alot more to get things figured out.
For newer movies, DVDFAB to remove the protection then Handbrake to convert. DVDFAB is free for just ripping DVDs but they don't make that really known on their website. This is possibly the most fool-proof way to do it but it also gives you plenty of options if you're into that.
Hello.
Well, I have been trying to work my way round the Video Softwares for the Note.
I already have a good software - Badaboom which is nVidia Certfiied as it uses the GPU for both Encode & Decode.
The format that I use with it for the Motorola Xoom, same display resolution as the Galaxy Note.
However, I have noticed that the output is not as what it should be.
It seems a bit off.
The movie which I have encoded is a Full HD 1080p. - Original Size is 7.8 Gigs or so and the Rip comes out to 3.02 Gigs.
There is a little noticeable Lip Sync, but the picture is little different.
Have you tried MoboPlayer? It has a soft decode feature which can play back pretty much any format (no need to convert any files at all ).
DVD Catalyst?
Badaboom sucks. It's fast, but quality...meh. GPU encoding has a long way to go.
If you have a decent CPU and are not too technically minded try Handbrake, it works wonders.
I owned a Xoom myself. The screen is nowhere near as rich as the Note although they have similar pixel resolution.
I tried handbrake and it looks nice but doesn't take dvd rips, ie .vob files? But it will scan a dvd to rib? I alway rip my dvds with dvdripper on mac then convert them when i fell like it. Even though it seems more realistic to just rip the dvd to the desired format in the beginning.
Edit: so i tried some things. for awhile i was doing full dvd rips, then i started just doing main feature extraction(to save space) and in handbrake when trying to load the main feature rip it says no source found. When i select a full dvd rip it loads. Im assuming handbrake is looking for the audio ts folder among other things to think its a valid source ... Bummer because i save 1-2gb by not doing a full dvd rip...
MX Player will play .vob and almost all other formats.
Sent witH desire from One X
nahhush said:
Hello.
Well, I have been trying to work my way round the Video Softwares for the Note.
I already have a good software - Badaboom which is nVidia Certfiied as it uses the GPU for both Encode & Decode.
The format that I use with it for the Motorola Xoom, same display resolution as the Galaxy Note.
However, I have noticed that the output is not as what it should be.
It seems a bit off.
The movie which I have encoded is a Full HD 1080p. - Original Size is 7.8 Gigs or so and the Rip comes out to 3.02 Gigs.
There is a little noticeable Lip Sync, but the picture is little different.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try VLC Player, Its only beta at the moment and is almost identical to mx player, I use it on my pc and you can adjust audio sync and stuff, I'm sure these features will be available soon on the android version.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
I have to say I am not sure what you are trying to do here, have you ripped a DVD to VOBS and then try to encode it again?, why don't you just rip the DVD straight to a compatible file with a compatible codec that your PC, Phone and Tablet can handle.
Most devices can handle a 1080p Hn64 high profile rip as long as you have summed audio channels to stereo, this way you can have very large bitrates and upscale your DVD's to play on your PC as well. Playing them on your Tablet and phone will be smooth if you use the sammy video player as hardware acceleration will come in to play.