Hi all,
anyone know a player that I can throw anything below and including 720p (especially: Star Wars: The Clone Wars 720p MKV releases - these shinies have AC3 sound and x264 video) at and it will play fluently on a HD2 without having to re-code them?
TCPMP may, depending on the version you get ahold of, either crash, don't play the video or the sound or have massive stuttering issues (hello? a HD2 has a 1 GHz/750MHz CPU? And an acceleration unit?).
CorePlayer... well, needs a recode as it doesn't know AC3. Any way to give him a 3rd party plugin?!
Marco
plus1 its a shame VLC doesnt go
Moved as not software release.
You'll find that the data read speed from SD won't be up to the task, MKV can be turned into .avi without a long recode time. "i'll update later as friend can provide more info just mem him saying it was done in minutes"
the point is, I want to save me the recoding time and diskspace...
I have AC3 plug-in to TCPMP
Me too, but TCPMP is awfully slow in playing stuff (if it loads at all)
What?! AYFKM? TCPMP working very fast and playing non converted AVI movies smooth withiout any audio video async. Try it - for me is much better than Core Player and additionaly is for free.
the core player IS actually tcpmp,but with new brand and some minor stuff
You got one build that is HD2 compatible? Can you pls point me to the thread?
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I was wondering what is the best divx player for the touch pro, I have Core and Divx Player and (at least when stereo BT headset is used) lag tremendously. Core has video lag, and divx will play the video okay with a great deal of audio break up. I noticed that there isn't much tweaking that you can do with the Divx player, but with Core is there ideal settings I should try? I had this same problem with my apache but I figured that The Touch would be fast enough to not be an issue. Thanks in advance.
Divx is a old codec now, you sure u dont mean Xvid? try TCPMP
yes I'm sorry xvid is what I meant, I'll try TCPMP, I thought that it and Core were the same. I thought that TCPMP was early free development and Core was final and costly.
Engadget article, last video:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/exclusive-motorola-droid-x-preview/
It plays DivX videos natively, and with very good quality as well... not sure how it is with android, but should we expect an Evo port of that player sometime soon? I know it was done in winmo world, but since i'm relatively new to android scene, wanted to ask before forking out $10 for yxplayer.
Thanks!
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Galaxy S is also "DivX HD Certified Android Smartphone":
Galaxy S (I9000) Product Specifications, Video: HD([email protected]) video playing & recordingCodec: mpeg4, H.264, H.263, H263Sorenson, DivX HD/ XviD, VC-1Format: 3gp (mp4), WMV (asf), AVI (divx), MKV, FLV
another opportunity for a great divx player port to evo?
frifox said:
Engadget article, last video:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/exclusive-motorola-droid-x-preview/
It plays DivX videos natively, and with very good quality as well... not sure how it is with android, but should we expect an Evo port of that player sometime soon? I know it was done in winmo world, but since i'm relatively new to android scene, wanted to ask before forking out $10 for yxplayer.
Thanks!
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Galaxy S is also "DivX HD Certified Android Smartphone":
Galaxy S (I9000) Product Specifications, Video: HD([email protected]) video playing & recordingCodec: mpeg4, H.264, H.263, H263Sorenson, DivX HD/ XviD, VC-1Format: 3gp (mp4), WMV (asf), AVI (divx), MKV, FLV
another opportunity for a great divx player port to evo?
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There was a thread about rock video player floating around but I can't find it anymore. amazing player, handles whatever I throw at it besides the 720 stuff our phones don't have the power to play.
Mod. edit: That's because it is still a beta and the developer didn't consent it's distribution. It was therefore removed as warez according the forum rules.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6805512#post6805512http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6805512#post6805512
yes, i have it, use it every day... but i found yxlpayer to handle h264/MKV's much better, without major stuttering. most releases (i'd say ~80% of all) on the scene right now are high profile h264 in MKV's so i have a need for yxplayer more than rockplayer.
since Droid X and Galaxy S plays DivX and MKVs (galaxy s, at least) natively, i would imagine its performance being MUCH better than yxplayer/rockplayer. that's why i was hoping for an Evo port
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There was a thread about rock video player floating around but I can't find it anymore. amazing player, handles whatever I throw at it besides the 720 stuff our phones don't have the power to play.
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Our phones can handle 720p h264 base profile just fine with HW acceleration, It's just that rockplayer seems like it's more or less a software implementation.
But yes I would LOVE to see some sweet h264 High Profile HW decoding support, this phone was meant and advertised to be a powerhouse media player and it pains me to see it only crippled by lack of SW support. (Sorry youtube HQ, you're only useful if I wanted to see lolcats, for everything else, I'm sick of having to go through a conversion process) If only AirVideo developers would at least say SOMETHING about a possible android port...
Or you could do what I did and write a transcoder using ffmpeg to get tv and movies streamed. I'm able to get native res x264 to my phone from my own script, even over 3g. Just can't get seeking to work because I don't know a way to move the the atom chunks to the front of the single pass encoding process before it starts encoding. I don't actually think its possible over http which is why I'm thinking about moving it to an app.
But apart from that I have x264 hw from the HTC player and xvid from rockplayer. What is the problem? They work fine. I don't care that its two apps.
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Or you could do what I did and write a transcoder using ffmpeg to get tv and movies streamed...
But apart from that I have x264 hw from the HTC player and xvid from rockplayer. What is the problem?
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i wrote a batch script for myself that re-encodes (not streams) my vids into evo-supported format. just drag&drop all vids and they are properly encoded regardless of the input format. as far as streaming, i use Orb. the problems with both, i don't always want to spend time (if i have any at all) to re-encode, and streaming doesnt produce enjoyable 800x480 quality with real-time encoding (tho orb allows seeking, which is a +, but not enough to compensate for quality loss).
that i know, but hw-accelerated h264 playback is limited only to baseline profiles. many scene releases are either main or high profiles, and in addition to that, inside mkv's which stock player doesnt do.
i have no difficulty going through loops and hoop to get my vids played on Evo, but most of the time i'm simply wasting time/quality while doing it... that being said, DroidX/GalaxyS most likely incorporates hardware accelerated playback (or a dam good software-based decoding algorithm), and seeing how silky smooth it plays 720p DivX/AVI files, I would LOVE to have a player on my Evo with such good decoding performance... thats why asking about an Evo port. DEVS, please respond
... oh and also, let's not even mention SUBs (A.S.S. inside MKV's)... those things are ALWAYS a problem, no matter which player you use
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Or you could do what I did and write a transcoder using ffmpeg to get tv and movies streamed. I'm able to get native res x264 to my phone from my own script, even over 3g. Just can't get seeking to work because I don't know a way to move the the atom chunks to the front of the single pass encoding process before it starts encoding. I don't actually think its possible over http which is why I'm thinking about moving it to an app.
But apart from that I have x264 hw from the HTC player and xvid from rockplayer. What is the problem? They work fine. I don't care that its two apps.
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Mind elaborating on the process for this a bit? I know that AirVideo essentially does the same thing on the iDevices but with a pretty complicated script that can raise or lower quality based on bandwidth constraints. Also they use some sort of framserver to serve subtitles embedded into an mkv/ogm container before transcoding it on the fly. I really don't know enough about encoding to get into this (though I'd love to learn more) but I would love to be able to have SOME sort of solution to this.
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i wrote a batch script for myself that re-encodes (not streams) my vids into evo-supported format. just drag&drop all vids and they are properly encoded regardless of the input format. as far as streaming, i use Orb. the problems with both, i don't always want to spend time (if i have any at all) to re-encode, and streaming doesnt produce enjoyable 800x480 quality with real-time encoding (tho orb allows seeking, which is a +, but not enough to compensate for quality loss).
that i know, but hw-accelerated h264 playback is limited only to baseline profiles. many scene releases are either main or high profiles, and in addition to that, inside mkv's which stock player doesnt do.
i have no difficulty going through loops and hoop to get my vids played on Evo, but most of the time i'm simply wasting time/quality while doing it... that being said, DroidX/GalaxyS most likely incorporates hardware accelerated playback (or a dam good software-based decoding algorithm), and seeing how silky smooth it plays 720p DivX/AVI files, I would LOVE to have a player on my Evo with such good decoding performance... thats why asking about an Evo port. DEVS, please respond
... oh and also, let's not even mention SUBs (A.S.S. inside MKV's)... those things are ALWAYS a problem, no matter which player you use
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Orb quality is absolute crap on any mobile device I've been on, and that includes WiMo 6.x, The iPod Touch and of course Android. Unfortunately I couldn't use Orb 2.5x because of the lack of subtitle support and their fix "soon" is worse than Blizzard's "soon" on game releases.
My current solution is a batch script to convert the h264 high profiles to ffmpeg mp4s (simply because the conversion takes 4 minutes compared to 9 if I converted it to h264 baseline) and proceeding to manually rip out the A.S.S./SRT files from the mkvs manually and using mVideoPlayer/meridian to softload everything. It's a long process that I simply don't want to do to enjoy some video
did some more research... Samsung Galaxy S (i9000) & Motorola Droid X both have something in common: Cortex-A8 w/ NEON™.
What's that? Simply put, hardware acceleration for "watching any video in any format". Soft codec standards include MPEG-4, H.264, On2 VP6/7/8, Real, AVS, and more. This explains the above mobile's ability to playback 720p high profile h264 in MKVs with no problem at all.
As far as I know, Evo sports QSD8650, a chipset from 2007, which doesn't include Cortex-A8. Conclusion? No hardware accelerated Main/High profile H264, MKV, DivX, etc playback for HTC Evo no matter how hard we try...
Seriously, the MAIN reason I bought Evo is for its 1GHz and 4.3" screen hoping to finally escape the dreaded days of horrible video playback on my Touch Pro. I LOVE Evo, but this... @#[email protected]#$!
anyways, our last hopes lay in the hands of CorePlayer devs, since they're working on android port. their player was the only thing that kept me winmo somewhat bearable for video playback. CorePlayer plays pretty much everything you throw at it since they use their own video decoders, not android's, to play back avi/mkv/mp4/etc...
PS: most of the time, video re-encoding is NOT an option for me... no computer at home besides Evo
I loved core player.
Rock player is simply outstanding. I highly recommend everyone pick it up once it his market. Much better than yxplayer.
720p h264 (high-profile) video, both rockplayer & yxplayer = 0.5 to 3 fps playback. unacceptable.
PS: different sources report differently, but according to some - Droid X runs same chipset as Evo, QSD8650. So AVI/MKV/DivX (not sure bout main/high h264) support Evo port could still be possible... just need some dumps from Droid X and start cooking
EDIT: Droid X runs OMAP3630, which also has Cortex-A8... dam, why does Evo just has to be different? Cortex-A8 = hardware accelerated ALL video playback, and Evo doesn't have it
Not sure if this will help, but.... Galaxy S (i8000) /system dump:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704817
the goodies:
/system/lib/libs264domxoc.so
/system/lib/libsac3domxoc.so
/system/lib/libsdiv3domxoc.so
/system/lib/libsflacdomxoc.so
/system/lib/libsvc1domxoc.so
/system/lib/libswmv8domxoc.so
/system/lib/libsavidocn.so
/system/lib/libsmkvdocn.so
/system/lib/libsflvdocn.so
/system/lib/libswmfdocn.so
wonder how much of the above is cortex-a8 specific...
droid x native playback
I've seen it mentioned in a few places that the DX will play divx/mkv files natively, but i really havent had much luck with it at all. All of the MKV files i've tried (3 or 4) have failed to play. Since mkv is just a container, does anyone have some specifics about which decoders the dx has?
Hi !
Is there a player able to play mkv 720p files ? It doesn't matter if it drop down resolution to fix in the one of the monitor.
I have tried TMCP but it crash as I select the files, coreplayer instead said that it do not support ac3....I think that it would be nice to add ac3 support to core player..
Why go through all this trouble? Just reencode the movie or just get a normal DVD Rip. I don't think there is a player for WinMobile that can play 720p. It will look like crap anyway.
yea I knew that I could easily ttry with a standard format...but I think that the only problem with the core player is the ac3 audi..I think that it can manage the mkv video part...
I think the limitation is imposed by the OS, not the hardware. And I also think you won't find a 720p WinMobile video player. You're not the first one asking about this and surely you won't be the last one.
hd2 cant handle 720p video, I tried on an android build - vplayer alpha(something like that).
It was really laggy.
i don't get it why is anyone even thinking about this... as the native resolution of the HD2 is less than 720p.... it's like watching bluray discs on an hd ready tv set... u can do it... but you don't need it...
Hi, i tried to search forum, but didn't find anything on that...
As we all know, our TP has a hardware accelerated playback of .H264 and .Flv, but in only works with several apps (WMPlayer, HTC album and HTC Youtube). But the question is, how to play locally saved .FLV on device?
It's so stupid situation when I open HTC youtube, watch video in HQ with perfect performance and then save that video to sd card and have 2-4 fps in CorePlayer -))))
Does anyone know how to fix that problem?
I play them with core player with no issue; I used to use tcpmp, and that worked fine as well. Maybe you need to play with the core player settings some. I can't tell you off the top of my head what I use, but youtube videos play really well with the latest core (1.3.7, or something like that).
Thanks for you answer. I'm currenty using CorePlayer 1.3.6, it works with low and mid quality videos, but with 480p it has very bad perfomance, while HTC Youtube shows them perfectly from Internet...
Hm.. I can't find 1.3.7 version of Coreplayer, may be you meant 1.3.6?
Yeah, it's 1.3.6 build 7427.
I have it set on qtv display with high quality and the tytn ii driver mode checked. It plays pretty well, imo.
I'm pretty sure you can't play any local videos with the HTC player, which renders it next to useless, imo. I prefer having a player for everything as opposed to different players for everything. I'm not sure that the htc player plays .flv streams, anyway. I thought it played .3gp streams, but it's been a while since I used it.
Today i have a free application to recommend (MoboPlayer) , it's still on beta.
Official website : http://moboplayer.com/moboplayer_en.html
Tested this application with a 720p MKV anime and it can play smoothly on it, tried it on rockplayer and it lag like hell.
However I think it's only work on 720p with around 30fps since Sony capped the max fps. Tried it with 24fps video and no problem with it.
It's support almost every type of video files just like rockplayer but have a nicer interface but you have to add the video into it's library in order to read.
Download link extracted from the website: http://update.moboplayer.com/android/release/mobo_1.0.120_v7_neon.apk
Please try it and comment below.
it did not even find my media,while other players did!
Awesome player! Confirmed but not high volume videos.
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it did not even find my media,while other players did!
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You have to set the folder for your video and wait for it to be add to the library.
VITAL player is best
VITAL is better i guess
I have a 200MB .mkv file It plays in VITAL
Laggy in moboplayer/
i`ve tested a file with vital player
720p - 28 minutes - 1GB - mkv file - audio ac3 5.1
the vital player cant play it smooth and correct.
its very laggy. will test the mobo player next...
Now i can uninstall QQPlayer Vplayer nice...
V Player is BEST !!
I use Meridian Player and it seems to play files very smoothly. I shall give this one a shot though.
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i`ve tested a file with vital player
720p - 28 minutes - 1GB - mkv file - audio ac3 5.1
the vital player cant play it smooth and correct.
its very laggy. will test the mobo player next...
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I´ve tested mobo player now with the same file...
i cant understand why everybody is talking that kind of **** in this thread!?
pls believe me that there is no player for sony x10 which can play "real" 720p files well without async audio and laggy frames.
buy next phone with dualcore and i think its possible...
THE BEST Video player i ever seen for android .... way better than Vplayer's stupid interface ..... thank you very much
I really LOVE MixZing for all my MP3s! Its got a clean, simple, and dark interface. For video I use mVideoPlayer for Anime because its the only one I know that automaticly got subtitles for my episodes.
VitalPlayer I've been using for video, but I don't like how it doesn't have a list of your media like mVideoPlayer.
I'm gonna try this new one and see what I think... the hunt to only use one continues.
Amazing it's the best player to this moment ..
I test a lot of player but this is the best thanks man ...
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VITAL player is best
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Which version of Vital Player is for the X10 as our devices are Arm7 but on Market it states that Vital Player Neon is suitable for our X10s, even though that version is suppose to be for Cortex A8 devices only???
QuentinCosta said:
I´ve tested mobo player now with the same file...
i cant understand why everybody is talking that kind of **** in this thread!?
pls believe me that there is no player for sony x10 which can play "real" 720p files well without async audio and laggy frames.
buy next phone with dualcore and i think its possible...
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Sigh... That's just plain ignorant... The X10 has a hardware decoder that can handle even 1080p without any problems... BUT since it's a hardware decoder, the video stream has to be in a format it understands. In the X10, that means H.263, H.264 and MPEG-4.
Any other codec needs software decoding and for that, there isnt enough CPU power to do at more than ~15fps for 720p. By dropping frames, that wont desync audio but it will be laggy to watch so that statement is just plain wrong. Dualcore also wont change that one bit.
As for container, atleast from what I've seen so far, no third party player has ever handled hardware decoding themself but always relied on the built in videoplayer for that and simply showing the output. That however limits you also to containers that the builtin player understands for this, which is only MP4, AVI and MPG. But that may very well change and if OP states that this player can play 720p MKV files, it may very well be the first player to properly implement calling of the hardware decoder itself. Will be intresting to see.
But please, learn what it is you're bashing before doing it. It saves people from having to come correct your misconceptions about what you're bashing.
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But please, learn what it is you're bashing before doing it.
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read the first post and you can see that he was talking about MKV FILES !!!
But its the same with an 720p avi file... i dont have the chance to test the mp4 at the moment...
everytime i want to play a 720p movie (and not a camera record) its laggy on my x10.
you mean if i rip a movie in the mp4 there would be no problems at all?
Ok, so I just tried this player... and it is super awesome!! Easily the best one I've tried so far! Thanks for sharing!
it took my application sound files and paired it with my audio files. not cool.
Thanks for all your feedbacks. The 720p (1280x720) h264 mkv file that I tried run smoothly on it. As some of you stated it's still lag, therefore i tried a 720p mp4 file and the video is quite smooth however there's lot of distortion in the audio maybe due to the 5 channel audio.
Will try again tommorrow if I have the time.
Anyway one of the good points of this player is
1) Better interface
2) Able to choose dual audio track (English, Japanese) or dual subtitles (English, German etc)
3) Much more smoother than other player
4) More gesture function.
Hope you all can get the best out of this player. Have a nice day.