coreplayer vs tcpmp - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Themes and Apps

Yo guys. i have installed both players on my leo. i like the tcpmp player the best because you can have ac3 plugin and subtitles. BUT its like it plays with a lower framerate than coreplayer? the fact is that movies exactly feels a bit too laggy so it gets annoying when watching on the tcpmp player. any know why or maybe got a solution?
regards alf

Same dilemma for me...

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any got a solution to the laggy tcpmp?

Alfetch said:
any got a solution to the laggy tcpmp?
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there is no solution. coreplayer comes later and it's more optimized, but it doesn't have ac3 and subtitles support. Give and take....

just to add to the debate, this hd2 which I'm writing from, during a benchmark on tje opening of sex&the city, had 170+% speed in coreplayer, and 90-% in tcpmp...looks prety normal to me, asv previous poster sais, coreplayr developent went on, while tcpmp has stopped some years ago

a little OT question...what type of subs tcpmp read? because i tryed with tons of SRT but i dont understand how to let theme works

http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=155
That thread talks of AC3 support via a purchasable plugin, confirmed as being in development by one of the developers back in 2007. However, it constantly got put back by the look of it until in the end the thread was locked after a very good point regarding the lack of a Coreplayer demo by the last poster. Shame.

Alfetch said:
any got a solution to the laggy tcpmp?
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I think it's a problem related to the use of cpu. If you launch tcpmp just after a boot (before it scales down to about 400 Mhz) you'll see that it is faaaast (yesterday I used this method to watch a 960x400 divx AC3). It remain fast as long as you don't leave the phone to go to rest...
I usually use Coreplayer, this method when I have a movie with subtitle or AC3

xardus said:
a little OT question...what type of subs tcpmp read? because i tryed with tons of SRT but i dont understand how to let theme works
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You have to use the right version and use GDI (if I remember correctly) as video driver.
Srt are ok, with older versions you had to use smi files (you could use subtitle workshop to convert them)

Check this thread for a TCPMP player that works fine on HD2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631061
Check this thread for a TCPMP player that works fine on HD2
it also supports subtitles
it works ok, wothout a single modification to the player settings

mehegazy said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631061
Check this thread for a TCPMP player that works fine on HD2
it also supports subtitles
it works ok, wothout a single modification to the player settings
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thx a lot bro

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coreplayer / tcmp

Hi
are some tweaks do be done to use coreplayer or tcmp on the TP?
Coreplayer (1.20) plays sound but with a blackscreen and when i click on Tcmp(.71 and .81) i get an error message.
Anyone can help ?
Thanks
TCPMP .72RC1 with Flashbundle 1.4.4 works for me. Latest version of Coreplayer works for me too.
I had problems until someone pointed me at TCPMP-0.72RC1-ARM-PPC-recomp-03.CAB... search Google for it.
I use Coreplayer 1.2.5 (build 4506) and it works perfect. What kind of problems do you have with it?
mth said:
Hi
are some tweaks do be done to use coreplayer or tcmp on the TP?
Coreplayer (1.20) plays sound but with a blackscreen and when i click on Tcmp(.71 and .81) i get an error message.
Anyone can help ?
Thanks
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What kind of files are you trying to play?
In Core, change video from settings to DirectDraw. So you see picture also.
graham.hughes said:
I had problems until someone pointed me at TCPMP-0.72RC1-ARM-PPC-recomp-03.CAB... search Google for it.
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Same for me. I have a swe 1.90 ROM.
The above TCPMP plus some tweaks work like a charm!
Thank you guys ,tcpmp is working now( i installed the cab you mentionned).
But are they tweaks to do to have a fluent picture with no lag ?
Th
Can someone please post some basic settings for Coreplayer on Raphael that give best performance? I know it depends on the video being played, but if there are any 'must have settings', I would appreciate it.
Thanks!
I found that even using TCPMP the playback from an AVI was still a touch blocky on full screen updates, this was not so on my previous Mini S.
With Core Player it's fine, checking the video settings Core Player has a video setting called 'Qtv Display' this seems really smooth but the downside appears to be that the brightness/contrast settings appear disabled in this mode.
Setting Core Player back to Direct Draw enables the brightness/contrast settings but then returns full screen playback to the same quality of TCPMP.
I'm going to brighten the AVI's with VirtualDub and leave Core Player in QTv mode.
dav3ywrx said:
I found that even using TCPMP the playback from an AVI was still a touch blocky on full screen updates, this was not so on my previous Mini S.
With Core Player it's fine, checking the video settings Core Player has a video setting called 'Qtv Display' this seems really smooth but the downside appears to be that the brightness/contrast settings appear disabled in this mode.
Setting Core Player back to Direct Draw enables the brightness/contrast settings but then returns full screen playback to the same quality of TCPMP.
I'm going to brighten the AVI's with VirtualDub and leave Core Player in QTv mode.
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Many thanks for your input. Anyone else have experiences to share?
well im not sure where you all payed for your coreplayers since everytime i go to the site it asks me to buy but a friend sent me a version of it and i followed most of the suggestions ppl made about settings and find that HD avi files still are a bit choppy.
not sure if there's any fix or setting changes that fix it or not
See this post!!!! Your questions will be answered!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451743
Arg, post erased
Dang, I wrote out a long post, but after I clicked submit reply, xda wanted me to log in again, and I lost 4 paragraphs.
Anyway, long story short, I increased the buffer size by 10 times and it helped for one specific video that I was having trouble with. Most of my other videos still get low framerates during scenes with high movement (e.g. car chase scenes, fight scenes).
Maybe an expert can elucidate how to tweak these players or direct us to a website/thread with tips for Video/Buffering settings to get better framerates. In the meantime, I'll keep googling.
I'm still on stock ROM, using TF3D to scroll videos, which is choppy. They play fine via HTC Album and WMP, but TCPMP chokes. I've tried xvid avis and small (10MB) MP4s.
I've tried setting the buffer, tweaking the video render mode, Disable AVC deblocking filter, Override AVI frame rate based on audio. Any thoughts?
PS, running recomp version 3.

Core Player

On my HD I could play AVI files using Core Player, on the HD2 the same files play the audio but the viseo is:
1. In small screen very "liney" and doubled, 2 images side by side.
2. In full screen the screen is blank.
Any ideas?
maybe u have to set "directdraw" instead "qtv" in video settings
Actually, I do not understand why people want to keep on using Core Player.
The best movie player is already embedded in the HD2 itself in Photos/Videos album, because it has hardware acceleration.
CorePlayer is now a very old-fashioned software (2007) and the latest versions (1.35 and 1.36 are quite buggy).
Play your mp4 with the HTC video player and you will really see the difference.
arturobandini said:
Actually, I do not understand why people want to keep on using Core Player.
The best movie player is already embedded in the HD2 itself in Photos/Videos album, because it has hardware acceleration.
CorePlayer is now a very old-fashioned software (2007) and the latest versions (1.35 and 1.36 are quite buggy).
Play your mp4 with the HTC video player and you will really see the difference.
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yes true but to play divx or xvid files,coreplayer is still the best one,you dont need to convert it in mp4 and 1.36 is working just fine on my leo without bugs
where is the HTC video player located on the phone & will it play AVI files?
where are these setting changed?
southG said:
where are these setting changed?
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menu/tools/preferences
select page
/video then change qtv to raw framebuffer
i got coreplayer to work perfect only with these settings
in preferences-->select page--->video---> than select GDI and smooth zoom
any different setup would show pixelated image(video)
While we're talking about CorePlayer, can it show subs? If so how?
Have searched through every settings now but i can't find any settings for subs.
If not, is there a player that plays DivX Xvid's with subs in srt or sub format?
CorePlayer plays almoast everything i can think of, and are working fine on HD2 here to.. Is CorePlayer dead now or what?
i don't think coreplayer can play subs , but tcpmp can...however i didn't try it on my hd2 and don't know if it works
tcpmp works fine set to either gdi or rawframebuffer
not tried subs but they should work too
biggest benefit of tcpmp over coreplayer is the price
Subtitle
ToddeSwe said:
While we're talking about CorePlayer, can it show subs? If so how?
Have searched through every settings now but i can't find any settings for subs.
If not, is there a player that plays DivX Xvid's with subs in srt or sub format?
CorePlayer plays almoast everything i can think of, and are working fine on HD2 here to.. Is CorePlayer dead now or what?
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Tcpmp works, you can use srt (and I think smi) subtitles. You have to use GDI as video driver to see them.
Colors
Do you like the colors of coreplayer (or tcpmp) out of the box?
I had to change them to custom, raise the contrast a bit and lower the brightness.
I find HTC album images a bit too dark instead (but I can't change)
Johnston411 said:
menu/tools/preferences
select page
/video then change qtv to raw framebuffer
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That's done it thanks for you help.
southG said:
That's done it thanks for you help.
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pleasure
.flv & other formats
i've been trying to play .flv vids on it but in vain!
it keeps telling me that thr vids need On2VP6 codec that is not supported by the player
I tried searching for that on internet but almost found nothing practical
Also, some of my .wma filds play only the sound with a black screen
Can anyone help plz?
i use coreplayer 1.3.6 version on my HD 2 , and it play already subbed AVI's very well.
DrBasem said:
i've been trying to play .flv vids on it but in vain!
it keeps telling me that thr vids need On2VP6 codec that is not supported by the player
I tried searching for that on internet but almost found nothing practical
Also, some of my .wma filds play only the sound with a black screen
Can anyone help plz?
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ummm......ain't wma files audio only files?
For those who might be desirous to buy CorePlayer 1.36 I strongly recommand to be patient.
Indeed CorePlayer 1.36 is a dying software. CoreCodec is currently finalizing a version 2.0.
It would be useless to waste €30 on v1.36 now and probably have to pay later for v2.0.
kenkiller said:
ummm......ain't wma files audio only files?
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sorry for that , i meant .wmv

Open .avi files with HTC-Player?

Hello.
Even when i open a .avi-file in the HTC-Player it switches to WMP for playback.
Is it possible to open .avi-files with the HTC-Player instead of the Windows Media Player?
Thanks in advance and best regards.
Wait .. you mean you can play AVIs in WM player ? Cause I can't ..
As i know, you can play AVI files by using CorePlayer (But you have to pay for it).
Futil said:
As i know, you can play AVI files by using CorePlayer (But you have to pay for it).
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I know, but i would prefer to play them with HTC-Player because it runs more smothly than the CorePlayer.
You could also try tcpmp its as far as i know a free version of core player and it works extremely well even on a htc diamond
the latest version of tcpmp does not work on my hd2 .....
apparently core player does not use hardware acceleration like Media player, hence to weaker performance

a player for HD2 that can play mkv files (WITH subtitles)

I tried CorePlayer, newest version, it plays em perfectly, but NO subtitles.
Was on website, as of 7/02/10 they have NO support for subtitles in mkv files.
Any programs out there that has?
did you try with the TCPMP build which works on the Leo? MKV is just a wrapper, so if the codec is a supported one it could be possible to read it correctly
Found and tried it.
It doesnt run the mkv's smoothly like CorePlayer, lags a whole lot.
And no subtitles here either. (yes I tried both)
Animefan said:
Found and tried it.
It doesnt run the mkv's smoothly like CorePlayer, lags a whole lot.
And no subtitles here either. (yes I tried both)
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I am looking for a player that does this too, I have Sompy to try, I'll let you know if it works.
Well Sompy was an abject failure
i guess the search continues.
same problem..
No solution, and both players together are inconsistent
tcpmp
tcpmp works flawlessly if you run it from the memory card for the record,still no subs
any news on this? I would like to play mkv files directly,too. I don't want to mess with conversion..
BTW, I couldn't get TCPMP work for MKV files. It just crashes..
We need to get the guys at videolan to create us a vlc windows mobile player. I always use this on a PC and have no problems with codecs etc seems to play anything.
DJGurth said:
tcpmp works flawlessly if you run it from the memory card for the record,still no subs
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Do you mean you can play 720p mkv files? I can't...
I have opened a topic, please support : http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=75126
Coreplayer is soon coming out with a new version, possibly with .srt support
slayerns said:
Do you mean you can play 720p mkv files? I can't...
I have opened a topic, please support : http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=75126
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Regardless of subtitles, if you're trying to play HD i.e. 720p files on the HD2, nothing will work.
ArtieQ said:
Coreplayer is soon coming out with a new version, possibly with .srt support
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Yeah....we're been waiting for that since the beginning of time.
ArtieQ said:
Coreplayer is soon coming out with a new version, possibly with .srt support
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Will it support the internal subtitles of matroska files? And will it also support ASS which is used most of the time?
I'll give the TCPMP with subtitle support another go with my HD2. On my Blackstone it wasn't usable because of lags...
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Regardless of subtitles, if you're trying to play HD i.e. 720p files on the HD2, nothing will work.
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That is simply untrue. I have a couple of movies on my HD2 that are 720p and play in core player just fine. There was infact an entire topic dedicated to seeing what video would work on the HD2, was months ago but I'll see if I can hunt it down.
That turned out to be a whole lot easier to find than I thought it would be, here, great thread to learn what your HD2 can do video-wise.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582122&highlight=bouncy+balls
Mega Maniac said:
That is simply untrue. I have a couple of movies on my HD2 that are 720p and play in core player just fine. There was infact an entire topic dedicated to seeing what video would work on the HD2, was months ago but I'll see if I can hunt it down.
That turned out to be a whole lot easier to find than I thought it would be, here, great thread to learn what your HD2 can do video-wise.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582122&highlight=bouncy+balls
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Sadly, you did not even bother to read through that thread. Coreplayer itself is hardcoded not to play 720p video files. What you have are only files that used to be 720p, but down encoded to fit HD2. Take a good look at the resolution of those test videos. None of them even go near 1280x720, which is what 720p is defined as.
Not to be putting you down, but I've done a ton of video testing and encoding....and it's just not possible for now on the HD2.
kenkiller said:
Sadly, you did not even bother to read through that thread. Coreplayer itself is hardcoded not to play 720p video files. What you have are only files that used to be 720p, but down encoded to fit HD2. Take a good look at the resolution of those test videos. None of them even go near 1280x720, which is what 720p is defined as.
Not to be putting you down, but I've done a ton of video testing and encoding....and it's just not possible for now on the HD2.
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My mistake, I had read that thread through, but as I mentioned I was recalling it from memory and posted it as soon as I found it. I guess the frequent references to "hd" in the thread are what stuck in my memory.
Still 720x480 looks just stunning on the phone, so go download all the vids anyway
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My mistake, I had read that thread through, but as I mentioned I was recalling it from memory and posted it as soon as I found it. I guess the frequent references to "hd" in the thread are what stuck in my memory.
Still 720x480 looks just stunning on the phone, so go download all the vids anyway
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That sounds very contrary to your previous statement, I guess those 720p files suddenly disappeared from your phone?
No worries, it's a very common newbie mistake.
I don't know if I can really consider myself a "newbe" considering I'm a video editor and regularly have to pick and choose the resolutions I want to export to. As far as my HD video my knowledge is pretty extensive.
I think I was just too trusting of the movies I downloaded in "HD" actually being what they said they were. Your previous post was the first time I questioned it and looked at the movie stats.
I honestly believed the movies on my phone were 720p, I was wrong, atleast no-one died this time.
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I don't know if I can really consider myself a "newbe" considering I'm a video editor and regularly have to pick and choose the resolutions I want to export to. As far as my HD video my knowledge is pretty extensive.
I think I was just too trusting of the movies I downloaded in "HD" actually being what they said they were. Your previous post was the first time I questioned it and looked at the movie stats.
I honestly believed the movies on my phone were 720p, I was wrong, atleast no-one died this time.
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That's why it's never good to assume. It's a very good example where having more knowledge makes one overlook very basic stuff.
At least it makes you more open to checking the specs before shooting off replies again.....I'm glad I've contributed in some way.

Video Player for HD2

Is there any video player that can play .flv files?
It seems after flv files are converted to mp4 audio/video is out of sync for the HD2 video player, so I'd like to know is there any good video player that can be installed and thanks!
having same problem
gtb5 said:
Is there any video player that can play .flv files?
It seems after flv files are converted to mp4 audio/video is out of sync for the HD2 video player, so I'd like to know is there any good video player that can be installed and thanks!
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i have a same problem foe playing and watching movie files that have a .flv type. and now idont know what can i do for this
Try this soft to convert FLV to AVI
Coreplayer or the free version TCPMP will both play FLV files.
Hello, I'm using ( Aimersoft Video Converter ) and the profile of the iPhone 3GS the quality is brilliant and very very smooth , try it and give me a reply , i've been using it since i bought the HD2 and i just love it !
Hope it will work for every one of U .
Hanybv
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Coreplayer or the free version TCPMP will both play FLV files.
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+1 for coreplayer or TCPMP. Why take the time to convert videos when you can simply play them?
I bought coreplayer ... It's the one for me and a good prize too
Tried coreplayer and it's having problem in my unit, the video will be messed up and has to restart don't know why.
This video converter is very good, with the ability to re-sync audio (not that I have needed to yet). It was developed for the HD by an xda member. But yeah, TCPMP or Coreplayer will work if you don't want to convert it.
Thanks gotta give it another try.
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Tried coreplayer and it's having problem in my unit, the video will be messed up and has to restart don't know why.
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Switch your video codec to DirectDraw then it will work like charm. Look for more tweaks in coreplayer forum.
jokies said:
Switch your video codec to DirectDraw then it will work like charm. Look for more tweaks in coreplayer forum.
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Oh thanks but please let me know how to change video codec.
COREPLAYER: Menu > Tools > Settings > Select Page > Video > Video Output - change to DirectDraw
TCPMP: Options > Video > DirectDraw
In coreplayer, just make sure that a video is NOT playing when you do this....it tends to crash and forces you to do a soft reset (at least it does for me!)
I have no probs playing flv with coreplayer or TCPMP, I just prefer Coreplayer.
Thanks so much, actually GDI codec works for me but there's still very slight sync issue for some videos.
You may also want to try Chainfire's 3d drivers (if you haven't already)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592663 (not the beta drivers - yet!)
Some people have said it improves DirectDraw performance in Coreplayer, but I never had any problems before, so I can't really say yes or no to that! The drivers do help with other apps too, so I would say they are worth installing anyway.
I think there is a known problem with the HD2 and video/audio sync, but again (lucky me), I've never noticed it.
Col.

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