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x7510 - videos too slow?

Hello guys!
I've purchased recently a brand new x7510, mainly for navigation (love the display) and mobile office. I've installed the latest coreplayer 1.2.5 and loaded some vids that I used to show on my old good iPAQ 4700.
And.. surprise
the screen is green and there is no sound. I've played with the settings (changed video output from ati imageon to gdi) and now videos are running but way too slow. The builtin benchamark of coreplayer gives me different scores from 50 to 70%
What's wrong?
What settings are you using? Or maybe there's a better player around?

amv7 said:
Hello guys!
I've purchased recently a brand new x7510, mainly for navigation (love the display) and mobile office. I've installed the latest coreplayer 1.2.5 and loaded some vids that I used to show on my old good iPAQ 4700.
And.. surprise
the screen is green and there is no sound. I've played with the settings (changed video output from ati imageon to gdi) and now videos are running but way too slow. The builtin benchamark of coreplayer gives me different scores from 50 to 70%
What's wrong?
What settings are you using? Or maybe there's a better player around?
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How about uploading one of the shorter videos for the rest to test and see who can play it most smoothly?

amv7 said:
Hello guys!
I've purchased recently a brand new x7510, mainly for navigation (love the display) and mobile office. I've installed the latest coreplayer 1.2.5 and loaded some vids that I used to show on my old good iPAQ 4700.
And.. surprise
the screen is green and there is no sound. I've played with the settings (changed video output from ati imageon to gdi) and now videos are running but way too slow. The builtin benchamark of coreplayer gives me different scores from 50 to 70%
What's wrong?
What settings are you using? Or maybe there's a better player around?
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I am using DirectDraw. It works well. No problems here.

eaglesteve said:
How about uploading one of the shorter videos for the rest to test and see who can play it most smoothly?
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Here's an example:
(new 007 trailer)
http://rs26l33.rapidshare.com/files/134288468/Agent007.2008.epidem.ru.rar
I also have many 700 mbs DVD rips which are way too slow on the x7510. It seems to me that we have a great piece of hardware, but we don't have the appropriate software
Tadeusz, what kind of video are you playing (resolution, codec, etc)?

amv7 said:
Tadeusz, what kind of video are you playing (resolution, codec, etc)?
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I have some flv files downloaded from youtube, but mainly videos of concerts recorded on my home computer from sat tv in wmv
One of those is about 30 minutes of Jewel concert:
Audio codec DMO WMA 44100hz 2 chanels/96kbit/s
Video codec DMO WMV (WMV9) 384 x 288, 1,15 Mb/s.
I think I've rocoded it for my mobile, but do not remember.

I just converted Superman Returns using Pocket DVD at the following settings:
IMAGE
Width: 464 pixels
Height: 288 pixels
AUDIO
Duration: 2:34:05
Bit Rate: 40 kbps
Audio Format: MPEG Layer-3
VIDEO
Frame Rate: 24 frames/second
Data Rate: 605 kbps
Video Sample Size: 24 bit
Video Compression: XVID
The only settings I changed from Core Player are:
1. Menu>Tools>Preferences>Video>Video Output>Direct Draw
2. Menu>Tools>Preferences>ATI IMAGEON>check Keep ATI Driver Active
3. Menu>Tools>Preferences>Buffering>Normal Buffer Size 700000
I also tried watching some You Tube Videos, randomly. No problems at all, except some anime looked crappy probably because they were not meant to be seen at such a big screen compared to other PPC.
I don't have any problems playing my converted DVDs. NO SKIPS, NO LAGS, NO DELAYED VOICE OR SOUND which I often see others complaining about. From my point of view, it is a matter of what converter and settings you used and what settings you have Core Player on.
So am I happy? HELL YEAH!!!!! It's better than watching using my Universal.
I don't know about the missing drivers that I often read others are asking. If Core Player can play my converted DVDs as good as my Universal, I don't see any problem with that. As I said, check your settings.

Nope still lags audio lag for me tried your settings...What version of coreplayer are you using? Did you use headphones when you played the video?

amv7 said:
Here's an example:
(new 007 trailer)
http://rs26l33.rapidshare.com/files/134288468/Agent007.2008.epidem.ru.rar
I also have many 700 mbs DVD rips which are way too slow on the x7510. It seems to me that we have a great piece of hardware, but we don't have the appropriate software
Tadeusz, what kind of video are you playing (resolution, codec, etc)?
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I just tried that video, when using core player 1.2.5 it almost runs fine, just that I don't have the ac3 audio codec. I also noticed a little tearing during scene change (fullscreen only).
My core player settings are:
Video output: DirectDraw
Video quality:High
Smooth Zoom: on
Dither: selected
Acceleration:not selected
DirectDraw settings:
overlay with colorkey:unselected
use blitting instead of overlay:selected
use device stretching for blitting: unselected (however I find that when I select this option with the one above I notice the tearing seems to go away but the video quality seems to go down a little)
I also increased buffersize:
normal buffer size:3392
preload at:70%
preload audio:64
Microdrive mode: selected
microdrive buffer size:56000
microdrive starts:1472
and thats what I have for coreplayer. Hopes this helps.
I'm going to try this vid in TCPMP and see how it handles it (I tend to get better video performance with TCPMP)
Another note, I have a x7501, however they're basically the same hardware.

I am using 1.2.5 version of Core Player.

I'm also using Coreplayer 1.25. Unfortunately I do not have the AC-3 codec. In any case, with rawframe buffer and set to highest video quality output, the picture is sensationally clear and fluid. I get 96.65% speed. Absolutely stunning and beautiful playback.
What audio plugin do you guys use for this video?

no problem playing videos properly coded for 640x480 sizes at max resolution, sound, etc
using TCPMP or CorePlayer, they both plays great!

AllGamer said:
no problem playing videos properly coded for 640x480 sizes at max resolution, sound, etc
using TCPMP or CorePlayer, they both plays great!
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But on which device, x7510? You mean you were able to install TCPMP on X7510?
Then which version? And could you provide your installer?

lennie answered that already
see your other topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=378040

best video
I have a x7501 no matter how I set it the video display is not smooth. I lovegbe big screen but when I made a video comparison with iPhone 3g, x7501 is worlds apart. iPhone 3g is so sharp and bright. I think it's a OS issue

AllGamer said:
lennie answered that already
see your other topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=378040
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Yes, and I commented that also. This version is no solution for me. It is not only to install the app, but to be able to play my videos as well.
This version gives me good audio and scrambled video, so no joy.
I have already CorePlayer and am happy with it, but just was curious.

hi
any news ?.....ways to improve?

I was looking for the best performance for CorePlayer on my 7510 and this configuration is best for me:
video:
selected driver - ATI Imageon (acceleration turned "off"!). Don't choose "DirectDraw", "Raw FrameBuffer" or "GDI" on HTC 7510 - they are slowest than Imageon without acceleration!
dithering - "on". halftones - "on". quality - "best"
Buffer: video output buffer set to: 4200 kb

Alternative video player

I've playing around with a Windows Mobile 6.1 phone and wasn't satisfied with the Windows Media Player.
When it is opening a video, the video is all choppy but the program becomes totally unresponsive
Seeking is just a guessing game. I hold down the rewind/forward button and don't really have a clear idea where the video is going to stop at all.
Just wondering are there any good alternatives video players that will load faster and be more responsive?
The only three players I've looked at was:
TCPMP which seems very good...except I'm not sure how I'm supposed to install it and customize it (I think there was some plugin to get it to play FLV files?).
Core Player Mobile seemed pretty good as well.
PocketTV didn't seem to support many formats.
In general, I use Avidemux to change videos (AVI's or FLV's) I find online to MP4's with MPEG4-SP video and AAC audio. I wouldn't mind be able to run FLV files without having to process them or being able to encode h.264 video but that's not too important to me.
What is important to me is a responsive and fast video player.
Any suggestions?

I use CorePlayer and it's wonderful.. don't see any reason to use anything else.
which device do you have?

PanTech Matrix Pro
Apparently someone involved in the project was a college buddy of my dad or something.
Though I did notice a weird issue...the frames don't seem to update at the same time...
Like whenever the screen flashes or something moves suddenly, I can notice that the bottom half of the screen tends to update before the top half of the screen.
And the division of the screen is rarely in the same place.
So basically if the video is flashing black and white, the screen looks like a wave of black and white is moving from the bottom on the screen to the top in a real jerky manner.
Really annoying when...well...anything moves.
Does it for all my videos even if the video is low fps and an easy codec.
The default windows media player doesn't do it...but the default players pretty sucks in every other way.
Any idea of how I can tweak it?
I'm using 1.3 for Windows Mobile 6.1
edit: Hmmm...setting the video driver to GDI seems to make it slightly less noticeable.

im with nir i sue coreplayer ansdi t plays pretty much every codec and theres no need to install extra codecs
this includes divx
its not free but worth it

You can use TCPMP if you want some thing free and good

Oh I tried. But Coreplayer's h264 playback is amazing to me.

movie player
i had coreplayer but its freezing on me so what else can I use?

it froze on me too!

CorePlayer is fantastic - the only drawback that I have occured so far is that fact that it cannot play AC3 sound files commonly found in *.avi files...otherwise, it is brilliant. Worth the money in my opinion.
No need to encode or whatever, usually I just drag and drop video files onto my phone and it plays it just fine...much better than converting through iTunes ....unfortunately no 720p/1080p just yet, but that's just asking for too much

Core Player

On my HD I could play AVI files using Core Player, on the HD2 the same files play the audio but the viseo is:
1. In small screen very "liney" and doubled, 2 images side by side.
2. In full screen the screen is blank.
Any ideas?

maybe u have to set "directdraw" instead "qtv" in video settings

Actually, I do not understand why people want to keep on using Core Player.
The best movie player is already embedded in the HD2 itself in Photos/Videos album, because it has hardware acceleration.
CorePlayer is now a very old-fashioned software (2007) and the latest versions (1.35 and 1.36 are quite buggy).
Play your mp4 with the HTC video player and you will really see the difference.

arturobandini said:
Actually, I do not understand why people want to keep on using Core Player.
The best movie player is already embedded in the HD2 itself in Photos/Videos album, because it has hardware acceleration.
CorePlayer is now a very old-fashioned software (2007) and the latest versions (1.35 and 1.36 are quite buggy).
Play your mp4 with the HTC video player and you will really see the difference.
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yes true but to play divx or xvid files,coreplayer is still the best one,you dont need to convert it in mp4 and 1.36 is working just fine on my leo without bugs

where is the HTC video player located on the phone & will it play AVI files?

where are these setting changed?

southG said:
where are these setting changed?
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menu/tools/preferences
select page
/video then change qtv to raw framebuffer

i got coreplayer to work perfect only with these settings
in preferences-->select page--->video---> than select GDI and smooth zoom
any different setup would show pixelated image(video)

While we're talking about CorePlayer, can it show subs? If so how?
Have searched through every settings now but i can't find any settings for subs.
If not, is there a player that plays DivX Xvid's with subs in srt or sub format?
CorePlayer plays almoast everything i can think of, and are working fine on HD2 here to.. Is CorePlayer dead now or what?

i don't think coreplayer can play subs , but tcpmp can...however i didn't try it on my hd2 and don't know if it works

tcpmp works fine set to either gdi or rawframebuffer
not tried subs but they should work too
biggest benefit of tcpmp over coreplayer is the price

Subtitle
ToddeSwe said:
While we're talking about CorePlayer, can it show subs? If so how?
Have searched through every settings now but i can't find any settings for subs.
If not, is there a player that plays DivX Xvid's with subs in srt or sub format?
CorePlayer plays almoast everything i can think of, and are working fine on HD2 here to.. Is CorePlayer dead now or what?
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Tcpmp works, you can use srt (and I think smi) subtitles. You have to use GDI as video driver to see them.

Colors
Do you like the colors of coreplayer (or tcpmp) out of the box?
I had to change them to custom, raise the contrast a bit and lower the brightness.
I find HTC album images a bit too dark instead (but I can't change)

Johnston411 said:
menu/tools/preferences
select page
/video then change qtv to raw framebuffer
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That's done it thanks for you help.

southG said:
That's done it thanks for you help.
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pleasure

.flv & other formats
i've been trying to play .flv vids on it but in vain!
it keeps telling me that thr vids need On2VP6 codec that is not supported by the player
I tried searching for that on internet but almost found nothing practical
Also, some of my .wma filds play only the sound with a black screen
Can anyone help plz?

i use coreplayer 1.3.6 version on my HD 2 , and it play already subbed AVI's very well.

DrBasem said:
i've been trying to play .flv vids on it but in vain!
it keeps telling me that thr vids need On2VP6 codec that is not supported by the player
I tried searching for that on internet but almost found nothing practical
Also, some of my .wma filds play only the sound with a black screen
Can anyone help plz?
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ummm......ain't wma files audio only files?

For those who might be desirous to buy CorePlayer 1.36 I strongly recommand to be patient.
Indeed CorePlayer 1.36 is a dying software. CoreCodec is currently finalizing a version 2.0.
It would be useless to waste €30 on v1.36 now and probably have to pay later for v2.0.

kenkiller said:
ummm......ain't wma files audio only files?
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sorry for that , i meant .wmv

Video Player for HD2

Is there any video player that can play .flv files?
It seems after flv files are converted to mp4 audio/video is out of sync for the HD2 video player, so I'd like to know is there any good video player that can be installed and thanks!

having same problem
gtb5 said:
Is there any video player that can play .flv files?
It seems after flv files are converted to mp4 audio/video is out of sync for the HD2 video player, so I'd like to know is there any good video player that can be installed and thanks!
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i have a same problem foe playing and watching movie files that have a .flv type. and now idont know what can i do for this

Try this soft to convert FLV to AVI

Coreplayer or the free version TCPMP will both play FLV files.

Hello, I'm using ( Aimersoft Video Converter ) and the profile of the iPhone 3GS the quality is brilliant and very very smooth , try it and give me a reply , i've been using it since i bought the HD2 and i just love it !
Hope it will work for every one of U .
Hanybv

colthekid said:
Coreplayer or the free version TCPMP will both play FLV files.
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+1 for coreplayer or TCPMP. Why take the time to convert videos when you can simply play them?

I bought coreplayer ... It's the one for me and a good prize too

Tried coreplayer and it's having problem in my unit, the video will be messed up and has to restart don't know why.

This video converter is very good, with the ability to re-sync audio (not that I have needed to yet). It was developed for the HD by an xda member. But yeah, TCPMP or Coreplayer will work if you don't want to convert it.

Thanks gotta give it another try.

gtb5 said:
Tried coreplayer and it's having problem in my unit, the video will be messed up and has to restart don't know why.
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Switch your video codec to DirectDraw then it will work like charm. Look for more tweaks in coreplayer forum.

jokies said:
Switch your video codec to DirectDraw then it will work like charm. Look for more tweaks in coreplayer forum.
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Oh thanks but please let me know how to change video codec.

COREPLAYER: Menu > Tools > Settings > Select Page > Video > Video Output - change to DirectDraw
TCPMP: Options > Video > DirectDraw
In coreplayer, just make sure that a video is NOT playing when you do this....it tends to crash and forces you to do a soft reset (at least it does for me!)
I have no probs playing flv with coreplayer or TCPMP, I just prefer Coreplayer.

Thanks so much, actually GDI codec works for me but there's still very slight sync issue for some videos.

You may also want to try Chainfire's 3d drivers (if you haven't already)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592663 (not the beta drivers - yet!)
Some people have said it improves DirectDraw performance in Coreplayer, but I never had any problems before, so I can't really say yes or no to that! The drivers do help with other apps too, so I would say they are worth installing anyway.
I think there is a known problem with the HD2 and video/audio sync, but again (lucky me), I've never noticed it.
Col.

Video Playback on this phone is really slow, even when playing AVI files on MX Player

Has anybody else experienced this issue? Dice player is slow as hell too. Is there a setting that needs to be changed before the One XL will play video correctly or do video players need to be updated to work with the S4 processor?

One thing's for sure, video playback on devices optimized for particular encoding settings is optimum when those are followed.
Having said that, I have no problem playing 720p encodes in H.264 format using Handbrake with a profile that is based of the standard high profile but with B-frames, CABAC, 8x8 transform and weighted P-frames all turned off. These aren't necessarily the settings needed for optimal playback on THIS device but they are what I use for reliable playback on my Tegra 2 based Galaxy Tab 10.1 and those files that I've encoded for that play just as well on my One X.
I just dragged over a 1080p video shot on my Nikon D7000 onto my One X without any conversion at all and it plays perfectly fine using Dice Player. I was surprised.
Wonder if it's your encodes.

So far the best performance I've gotten on AVI without re-encoding is Bsplayer.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

In MX Player, change from "H/W" mode in the top right to "S/W (fast)" - see if that helps.

Another vote for BSPlayer. I was a big Rock Player proponent for a long time. But it doesn't seem to be updated any longer.
Also, similar to another previous response, forcing from HW to SW mode may help. Its a bit of a crap shoot depending on the encoding settings and codec used. But BS Player works for most things.

what if..
neocryte said:
In MX Player, change from "H/W" mode in the top right to "S/W (fast)" - see if that helps.
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i tried this but it says that "H/W decoder is not supported.. what should i do? thank you for the help..