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I bet most of you will think I'm another newbie who wants to do what he's not skilled to do. Well... maybe you are right. I'm sure you need expert people who can help you to improve the development. But I trust in knowledge sharing and since I found out no guide / tutorial / How-to / Step_by_step which explain how to become a "chef", I hope someone could help me to understand what I need to cook! I'm so tired to flash my devices every 4/5 days...
I'm sorry, but I've been reading lots of threads and posts that suggested me only little fragment of what it seems to me a big puzzle.
There are only a few key point in my mind and one of them is the idea that I cannot build up a ROM from the base. So, I think the best way is to take part to existing official/unofficial ROMs. For example, I've got the installer of official WM6 upgrade for HTC TyTN and HTC Advantage. How to get the ROM file only?. I suppose there is a sort of temporary folder where it is uncompressed into...
Next step is to "explode" ROM into folders... isn't it? Which software can do it?.
And now, the nicest part: how to add/remove software?
At last... how to build up and upload your ROM, to have your devices becoming a beautiful (above all expansive) ornament?
I know I'm boring... and I don't want you to write a book for me. Please suggest me links, other posts or threads that could help me to have a complete picture for my mission...
Thank you all! I love you!
P.S.: not a word on my english!!!
Sounds daft & I'm sure the infos here. I just want to change the theme on my GSM HTC Touch Pro. I know all the software & links are here on this site. It's just there's no 'this software is what you need & this is how you change your theme' info.
Thanks
LOL, ok, google free wm themes, download it and transfer the tsk file to your device. Then simply goto settings/today and select the theme you downloaded... no extra software needed.
try this site, it has THOUSANDS
http://www.portablethemes.com/
Just realised tho, you might be wanting to change you manila theme.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470023 there are some themes on here
Thanks for the reply, what exactly in Manila & how do I use it. I've already seen lots of reference to it but don't actually know what it is.
I've uplodaed a few tsk & cab files & selected them in my today them menu but all I get are slight changes like different icon, I've manged to add a different wallpaper, but as soon as the touchflo starts, it's lost.
Getting there
Ta
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Sounds daft & I'm sure the infos here. I just want to change the theme on my GSM HTC Touch Pro. I know all the software & links are here on this site. It's just there's no 'this software is what you need & this is how you change your theme' info.
Thanks
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Oh my goodness guys, the test is coming up and I don't know any of the answers. I know all the information to pass the test is in the books. But that would require me to actually read and study.
You guys have already read the books and studied. Can you just give me all the answers to the test, I really can't be bothered to actually read and study myself.
I'm sure the infos here.
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You are right all the info is in the Touch Pro Forum.
I understand your point. However this is not an interest or hobby of mine. I'm just a guy who doesn't like how my screen phone looks. Once this is done I may never look at this again. In the 24 hours I have each day I have other things I have to do first & then all the hobbies & interests I have.
I had a look through the first 3-4 pages of this forum & then I tried a few searches. Found a few things, but not enough to fingure it all out.
I've ran out of time for this now really. I might try again when I get some spare time.
Thanks for your help.
search for Replacing/Changing TouchFLO3D skins/themes.
here's some basic help for you, halo (and some commentary)
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Oh my goodness guys, the test is coming up and I don't know any of the answers. I know all the information to pass the test is in the books. But that would require me to actually read and study.
You guys have already read the books and studied. Can you just give me all the answers to the test, I really can't be bothered to actually read and study myself.
You are right all the info is in the Touch Pro Forum.
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This is so right-on... and yet ... at the same time I respect the Original Poster's comment framing:
I understand your point. However this is not an interest or hobby of mine. I'm just a guy who doesn't like how my screen phone looks. Once this is done I may never look at this again. In the 24 hours I have each day I have other things I have to do first & then all the hobbies & interests I have.
I had a look through the first 3-4 pages of this forum & then I tried a few searches. Found a few things, but not enough to fingure it all out.
I've ran out of time for this now really. I might try again when I get some spare time.
Thanks for your help.
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And because i think it's valid to have people want to utilize great resources here at XDA, yet not have to immerse themselves totally into weeks of XDA Culture in order to do so, I hope this helps the Original Poster. (see Commentary further below my effort to help halo1234)
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halo1234: Some Overview Help. It may or may not help your specific request:
1. IF you are running a version of the "TouchFlo" interface as the primary finger-controllable navigation tool,
then here's what you need to know:
2. "Manila" is the name of the interface system that HTC (phone maker) introduced which allowed the bottom-of-the-screen left-to-right finger-slider navigation system. That term, Manila, is synonymous with "TouchFLO 2D" ... and it took days for me to finally "get" that linkage. Later, HTC introduced what they considered a "new & improved" navigation system called "TouchFLO 3D" ... but many people here at XDA consider that its added eye-candy and transition effects were no real added-value. Thus most people here prefer the "TouchFLO 2D" navigation theme.
The prior "favorite naivgation scheme" was called "HTC Home" -- and one can debate their personal preference. I consider TouchFLO 2D to be miles beyond "HTC Home" in terms of a user-friendly navigation system and interface.
3. How to modify a "TouchFLO 2D" interface: M2DC utility
This has actually been made super easy thanks to the work of an XDA-developer who created a customization tool called "M2DC" -- which stands for Manilla TouchFLO 2D Customizer. It consolidates about 100 controllable factors for modifying themes:
Background images, tab systems and icon systems, font colors and sizes and faces, many other things.
SEARCH here for "M2DC" and you will quickly find it. DOwnload it and install it. Once you have M2DC installed (AND YOU SHOULD DONATE GENEROUSLY TO THE SOFTWARE AUTHOR OF THIS GREAT UTILITY!), then it creates a THEME folder. And various designers of themes here at XDA have used the author's file-format which packs all the elements for a particular theme change into an .m2dt file (m2d theme)
4. Find some themes you like, prefer:
XDA user KidnamedAlbert has a consolidated thread here at XDA which does nothing except show people's themes they have created and have made available to you to download for installation onot your phone, IF you are running one of the "TouchFLO 2D" Roms. Here. People who design themes package them in one of two ways: (a) as an .m2dt file which can be dropped into the M2D2 "Themes" folder on your device... or (b) as a .zip file which has all the graphic pieces for that theme, along with an .xml file which composes all these elements into a theme. I suggest you use (a).
5. Launch the M2DC utility; find the theme file you just inserted into its theme folder. Then follow the wizards "next steps" of the M2DC utility. NOTE: it is highly recommended that you find the bottom tab of that utlitity called "Backup" or "Restore" (i cant recall which). There you can Backup all the custom settings and files you have adjusted, and M2DC saves them for later restoration.
6. Top-bar and bottom-bar of the screen:
These are, generally, separate elements from the whole "TouchFLO" or Manila theme. You can search for these separately on this site. Search for .tsk files .These control the color scheme and gradient-quality of the top and bottom bars on the screen. After you find ones you want to try, then the way you implement these is:
(a) copy, or place, the .tsk file(s) you want to try into the \Windows folder of your device. Use "File Explorer" for this, to show the directory structure of the files on your phone.
(b) then, to access and switch between those .tsk themes, go to: Start > Settings > Personal > and find the "Today" icon. "Today" is the setting you will be changing. You'll now see in the left-hand box on that page the names of all the .tsk files you just loaded into the Windows directory of your phone. Now you select the one you want to try, click "OK" at the top-right of the screen, and in a second or two, the top-bar and bottom-bar will change. If you like, keep it. if not, try another.
7. Now, all I ask from you is this:
Tell me: Did these instructions help you. Or not. It's okay if the answer is "they did not". I just want to know, so please reply either way. Thanks and good luck.
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My Commentary re the Complexity of This Site's information design:
The truth is, XDA comprises an incredible, 2nd-to-none, knowledge base and dedicated developer community, and yet, because of those 2 things, the site is so sprawling and dense that even with using SEARCH and reading Sticky Threads and following links to HOW-TO's, and Newbie Guides, it takes weeks sometimes, just to assemble and/or decode some basic answers. That's a sign that even with the flexible & powerful hierarchical structure of prob the best forum software out there (vBulletin), nevertheless, there is a baseline INFORMATION DESIGN PROBLEM here.
It's not an easy solve by any means. But just for the record, I am taking on that task, since my area of professional specialty is Information Architectire and Customer Usability.
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he was talking about the Touch Pro.. that is not M2D.. but TF3D
for M2D i've written a guide in the guides thread in the Q&A section..
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he was talking about the Touch Pro.. that is not M2D.. but TF3D
for M2D i've written a guide in the guides thread in the Q&A section..
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Excellent stuff you've assembled & written. I really value those kinds of guides. Thanks. So i guess the answer to my #7 will be: nope, sorry, i am not using M2D... hah hah, well i had a good time wasting my time writing it up!
No not a waste of time. I read through your post & becasue you spent some time & effort on my post & decided to try again. So 2, 4 & 6 were useful, plus a few other links. Evetually I found some easy .cab files that worked without a problem from the Rapheal section & it's all working fine now.
If you hadnt bothered to respond I wouldn't of had another go, so it was worth it for me! Your right this forum is by far the largest I've useds & with so many variants of product & methods it's easy to get lost. My issue was that I new what I needed, but didn't know why or how.
Thanks
Peter
halo1234 said:
No not a waste of time. I read through your post & becasue you spent some time & effort on my post & decided to try again. So 2, 4 & 6 were useful, plus a few other links. Evetually I found some easy .cab files that worked without a problem from the Rapheal section & it's all working fine now.
If you hadnt bothered to respond I wouldn't of had another go, so it was worth it for me! Your right this forum is by far the largest I've useds & with so many variants of product & methods it's easy to get lost. My issue was that I new what I needed, but didn't know why or how.
Thanks
Peter
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Hey I am really glad you got some value from it. And that you found a solution overall for your Raphael. I'll tell you the OTHER value from it: I hadn't even known of nir36's outstanding GUIDES til he referenced them here. So there are multiple outcomes from asking questions. And I could spot that in your case you weren't the more typical "I need this now, i don't have time to look, so could someone just email me the answer?" user who parachutes into XDA-Developers forum land and expects to be handheld for their specific request.
There's a continuum here of what new users ask for -- and thus I think it would be way more realistic for some veteran members here to sometimes see new user questions from the ground level of someone coming into this land of knowledge and, as you sort of said, not even knowing how to frame the question, since the density of information is sometimes impenetrable, and just frame it out for a new user, vs just the standard reply to read read read read read.
As an information designer, I have never ever understood the impulse of some early-adopter people who have had to dig dig dig and read read read to finally pioneer the understandings and piece-together solutions to complex questions, to then want others who follow to work as hard at it as they did. My philosophy is build a better gateway to the knowledge storage, vs chastising people for using the wrong entrance.
For sure it's a 2-way street, and there are hundreds-a-day justifiable reasons for frustrations from knowledge-holders seeing the level of laziness and entitlement coming from the OTHER end of the new user spectrum. They give human beings a bad name
P.S. -- people hate my philosophy comments on a tech-board. I know. I don't try to be verbose, but I know it drives some people batty. In which case, sorry !
hah, i actually like these.
Hello,
I have question about what is everything in NBH - I mean what is os.nb.payload, os.nb.extra, XIP and such, I tried searching but couldn't find anything to it, where someone would explain what it actually is, how does it work, what can I change in it, how do it etc.
And also I got question about how to insert pkg's into cook ROM, just copy it there?
Then also how does BuildOS.exe works (building registry, "copying" everything to dump from all folders etc).
I mean like explaining everything so anyone could learn from it the lowest basics of cooking. I'm interested in it and want to make completely new cooking kit, but I can't find anything about it.
Hope someone finds who can explain at least something of it.
Thanks a lot!
PS: Maybe it will be better Hacking & Developing section?
did you search in the dev & hack forum?
man! you don't ask those questions here. either not in hacking.
only answer you'll get is ban from moderator.
It's kind of rude to ask in forum with milions of msgs in archives basic questions. Use search. look around, you'll find nice wiki in here too! with step-by-step and lot's of stuff to put in.
ok, but as i just start another post about nothing...
you'll get nice general idea from very basic kitchen. get a "kaiser_kitchen"
or better, "KaiserCook v1 Yardie.Spike's" it's just copy of the same, but you'll have more recent utils there.
go through wiki "how to cook" in kaiser section.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
you'll find everything there.
and get the last htc rom. not from at&t, get this from htc: 3.34.721.2
if you want to know everything, open batch (cmd) in text edit and watch it working.
It's really simple with all those pretty tools from nice guys here on forum.
a kdyby neco napis private only cos here EN ONLY.
I'm not sure I wrote it good what I'm really looking for, I'm feeling a bit dizzy so I will try to explain it (sorry for it):
I want to found out how does the "Building registry" or how does it work everything in BuildOS.exe and such works, but I couldn't find source (bepe doesn't want to share it I've found). That's why I'm asking, because I couldn't find it. Not because I want to know what tool what does, but HOW does the tool does it. I tried searching, believe me, but there's plenty of pages that talks only about "click on play button and when it says Done, close it", but none of them says how does it actually work, what it loads and saves, in what directory structure.
// Ooh, I got it what's it about - I've written it once, but I managed to find "what is what" things and wanted to left only "how does work", but send both of it, sorry!
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man! you don't ask those questions here. either not in hacking.
only answer you'll get is ban from moderator.
It's kind of rude to ask in forum with milions of msgs in archives basic questions. Use search. look around, you'll find nice wiki in here too! with step-by-step and lot's of stuff to put in.
ok, but as i just start another post about nothing...
you'll get nice general idea from very basic kitchen. get a "kaiser_kitchen"
or better, "KaiserCook v1 Yardie.Spike's" it's just copy of the same, but you'll have more recent utils there.
go through wiki "how to cook" in kaiser section.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
you'll find everything there.
and get the last htc rom. not from at&t, get this from htc: 3.34.721.2
if you want to know everything, open batch (cmd) in text edit and watch it working.
It's really simple with all those pretty tools from nice guys here on forum.
a kdyby neco napis private only cos here EN ONLY.
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lol he'll get banned for what? asking how something works? starting new thread? i dont think so!
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I'm not sure I wrote it good what I'm really looking for, I'm feeling a bit dizzy so I will try to explain it (sorry for it):
I want to found out how does the "Building registry" or how does it work everything in BuildOS.exe and such works, but I couldn't find source (bepe doesn't want to share it I've found). That's why I'm asking, because I couldn't find it. Not because I want to know what tool what does, but HOW does the tool does it. I tried searching, believe me, but there's plenty of pages that talks only about "click on play button and when it says Done, close it", but none of them says how does it actually work, what it loads and saves, in what directory structure.
// Ooh, I got it what's it about - I've written it once, but I managed to find "what is what" things and wanted to left only "how does work", but send both of it, sorry!
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I am not sure if I can answer all the questions you have! But try searching using the link in my sign, and you can usually find what you want. I am sure all the questions you have has been answered before. Good luck!
Perhaps looking at this thread, the general Kitchen and then TPC/Josh' Kitchen thread will bring better understanding.
Reverse Engineering is tough IMHO, and lots of the tools are developed by people with skill and having the tools and guts to try it out. The knowledge are gathered by experience.
what questions exactly would you like to know?
I was thinking about "higher" tools like BuildOS.exe how do they work, currently just only this one, but now I have some thoughts about doing reverse ingeneering, so I will try something myself first. But if anyone knows answer to BuildOS.exe working:
- processing OEM, SYS and ROM (=> just only recursively copy?)
- "Building registry" - take all .rgu and .provxml and put them in one? Or just only .rgu and .provxml save separately?
PS: Yes, I can read .bat-s from kitchen and such, I tried to do something, but it's always "run this program, click on this and then close" and didn't manage to google anything about the process in BuildOS.exe ^.
PPS: Actually I'm interested in cooking via TPC & Joshkoss kitchen - pretty awesome tho. Deleting unneeded stuff from SYS is fun. (Testing on emulator.) And you don't need to know the building process (actually when not knowing it you can still just rewrite somebody's kitchen with some tweaks). But I'm just only curious as many people is.
I searched the forum and didn't find any guide to theming rosie. I want to start making my own themes. I have alot of ideas.. I just need to kow how to modify the apk or change it.
Best way to start learning how is figuring out where all the files are located, the majority of taskbar files and etc are stored in com.htc.resources.apk and framework-res.apk these will change the most images for you.
Also good way to learn where to put stuff is download a bunch of metamorphs and unzip them to your desktop and have a good look see through all of them you will start getting an idea of where everything is and what does what.
If you need help always feel free to pm me. You are free to use any work from my theme at any time just holler
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588351
This is Godsons 1.5 and 2.1 theming thread. The first page has alot of useful links to different tutorials as well as the thread itself is a fantastic tutorial just search for what you want to know more about or ask, its really friendly and alot of good advice.
My advice is decide what you want to theme first find something close to it pick it apart find out what makes it tick and replace images with other ones to get the hang of it. Remember nandroid is your friend if something goes awry post it in that thread and ask for advice as to what you did wrong youll get feedback. Good luck and have fun with it.
I don't know where it's at now after all the changes but i put together a lil how to without alot of the nonsense that you don't need to worry about just yet together. I do agree that on this subject the searchbutton will take you places you don't wanna go
1)7-zip
2)cs4 & Gimp
3)sdk for a million things (signing,ddms,screen shots, etc..)
4)Notepad++ for editing scripts
5)learn the file system and where the things you want to edit are located
6)Lots of time, and a little luck
Hey, I've been "googling" for a couple days now trying to find how to do this and even searching the forum but any posts I find say download this and flash. However, I'm developing for the LG Ally, so I know for a fact without even trying those services.jar files listed on those "how-to" threads will not work. I understand some of you dont like to help others when they have really low post counts, but I don't come here often because of there being no support for the LG Ally. All I am looking for is what files to modify and what modifications to make on how to do this. Please, just point me in the right direction if you can help, and don't say "use the search function". As I said, I have already used the aforementioned search function to no avail. If I missed something when i was searching, which is possible as I am only human, please point me to it.
Thanks.
And in case you were curious about my post history and all that, i usually post over at androidforums.com just search the user database for this username and you will find me.
Thanks again in advance.
If this is vague i apologize and will help clear it up if need be.