Sounds daft & I'm sure the infos here. I just want to change the theme on my GSM HTC Touch Pro. I know all the software & links are here on this site. It's just there's no 'this software is what you need & this is how you change your theme' info.
Thanks
LOL, ok, google free wm themes, download it and transfer the tsk file to your device. Then simply goto settings/today and select the theme you downloaded... no extra software needed.
try this site, it has THOUSANDS
http://www.portablethemes.com/
Just realised tho, you might be wanting to change you manila theme.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470023 there are some themes on here
Thanks for the reply, what exactly in Manila & how do I use it. I've already seen lots of reference to it but don't actually know what it is.
I've uplodaed a few tsk & cab files & selected them in my today them menu but all I get are slight changes like different icon, I've manged to add a different wallpaper, but as soon as the touchflo starts, it's lost.
Getting there
Ta
halo1234 said:
Sounds daft & I'm sure the infos here. I just want to change the theme on my GSM HTC Touch Pro. I know all the software & links are here on this site. It's just there's no 'this software is what you need & this is how you change your theme' info.
Thanks
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Oh my goodness guys, the test is coming up and I don't know any of the answers. I know all the information to pass the test is in the books. But that would require me to actually read and study.
You guys have already read the books and studied. Can you just give me all the answers to the test, I really can't be bothered to actually read and study myself.
I'm sure the infos here.
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You are right all the info is in the Touch Pro Forum.
I understand your point. However this is not an interest or hobby of mine. I'm just a guy who doesn't like how my screen phone looks. Once this is done I may never look at this again. In the 24 hours I have each day I have other things I have to do first & then all the hobbies & interests I have.
I had a look through the first 3-4 pages of this forum & then I tried a few searches. Found a few things, but not enough to fingure it all out.
I've ran out of time for this now really. I might try again when I get some spare time.
Thanks for your help.
search for Replacing/Changing TouchFLO3D skins/themes.
here's some basic help for you, halo (and some commentary)
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Oh my goodness guys, the test is coming up and I don't know any of the answers. I know all the information to pass the test is in the books. But that would require me to actually read and study.
You guys have already read the books and studied. Can you just give me all the answers to the test, I really can't be bothered to actually read and study myself.
You are right all the info is in the Touch Pro Forum.
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This is so right-on... and yet ... at the same time I respect the Original Poster's comment framing:
I understand your point. However this is not an interest or hobby of mine. I'm just a guy who doesn't like how my screen phone looks. Once this is done I may never look at this again. In the 24 hours I have each day I have other things I have to do first & then all the hobbies & interests I have.
I had a look through the first 3-4 pages of this forum & then I tried a few searches. Found a few things, but not enough to fingure it all out.
I've ran out of time for this now really. I might try again when I get some spare time.
Thanks for your help.
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And because i think it's valid to have people want to utilize great resources here at XDA, yet not have to immerse themselves totally into weeks of XDA Culture in order to do so, I hope this helps the Original Poster. (see Commentary further below my effort to help halo1234)
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halo1234: Some Overview Help. It may or may not help your specific request:
1. IF you are running a version of the "TouchFlo" interface as the primary finger-controllable navigation tool,
then here's what you need to know:
2. "Manila" is the name of the interface system that HTC (phone maker) introduced which allowed the bottom-of-the-screen left-to-right finger-slider navigation system. That term, Manila, is synonymous with "TouchFLO 2D" ... and it took days for me to finally "get" that linkage. Later, HTC introduced what they considered a "new & improved" navigation system called "TouchFLO 3D" ... but many people here at XDA consider that its added eye-candy and transition effects were no real added-value. Thus most people here prefer the "TouchFLO 2D" navigation theme.
The prior "favorite naivgation scheme" was called "HTC Home" -- and one can debate their personal preference. I consider TouchFLO 2D to be miles beyond "HTC Home" in terms of a user-friendly navigation system and interface.
3. How to modify a "TouchFLO 2D" interface: M2DC utility
This has actually been made super easy thanks to the work of an XDA-developer who created a customization tool called "M2DC" -- which stands for Manilla TouchFLO 2D Customizer. It consolidates about 100 controllable factors for modifying themes:
Background images, tab systems and icon systems, font colors and sizes and faces, many other things.
SEARCH here for "M2DC" and you will quickly find it. DOwnload it and install it. Once you have M2DC installed (AND YOU SHOULD DONATE GENEROUSLY TO THE SOFTWARE AUTHOR OF THIS GREAT UTILITY!), then it creates a THEME folder. And various designers of themes here at XDA have used the author's file-format which packs all the elements for a particular theme change into an .m2dt file (m2d theme)
4. Find some themes you like, prefer:
XDA user KidnamedAlbert has a consolidated thread here at XDA which does nothing except show people's themes they have created and have made available to you to download for installation onot your phone, IF you are running one of the "TouchFLO 2D" Roms. Here. People who design themes package them in one of two ways: (a) as an .m2dt file which can be dropped into the M2D2 "Themes" folder on your device... or (b) as a .zip file which has all the graphic pieces for that theme, along with an .xml file which composes all these elements into a theme. I suggest you use (a).
5. Launch the M2DC utility; find the theme file you just inserted into its theme folder. Then follow the wizards "next steps" of the M2DC utility. NOTE: it is highly recommended that you find the bottom tab of that utlitity called "Backup" or "Restore" (i cant recall which). There you can Backup all the custom settings and files you have adjusted, and M2DC saves them for later restoration.
6. Top-bar and bottom-bar of the screen:
These are, generally, separate elements from the whole "TouchFLO" or Manila theme. You can search for these separately on this site. Search for .tsk files .These control the color scheme and gradient-quality of the top and bottom bars on the screen. After you find ones you want to try, then the way you implement these is:
(a) copy, or place, the .tsk file(s) you want to try into the \Windows folder of your device. Use "File Explorer" for this, to show the directory structure of the files on your phone.
(b) then, to access and switch between those .tsk themes, go to: Start > Settings > Personal > and find the "Today" icon. "Today" is the setting you will be changing. You'll now see in the left-hand box on that page the names of all the .tsk files you just loaded into the Windows directory of your phone. Now you select the one you want to try, click "OK" at the top-right of the screen, and in a second or two, the top-bar and bottom-bar will change. If you like, keep it. if not, try another.
7. Now, all I ask from you is this:
Tell me: Did these instructions help you. Or not. It's okay if the answer is "they did not". I just want to know, so please reply either way. Thanks and good luck.
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My Commentary re the Complexity of This Site's information design:
The truth is, XDA comprises an incredible, 2nd-to-none, knowledge base and dedicated developer community, and yet, because of those 2 things, the site is so sprawling and dense that even with using SEARCH and reading Sticky Threads and following links to HOW-TO's, and Newbie Guides, it takes weeks sometimes, just to assemble and/or decode some basic answers. That's a sign that even with the flexible & powerful hierarchical structure of prob the best forum software out there (vBulletin), nevertheless, there is a baseline INFORMATION DESIGN PROBLEM here.
It's not an easy solve by any means. But just for the record, I am taking on that task, since my area of professional specialty is Information Architectire and Customer Usability.
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he was talking about the Touch Pro.. that is not M2D.. but TF3D
for M2D i've written a guide in the guides thread in the Q&A section..
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he was talking about the Touch Pro.. that is not M2D.. but TF3D
for M2D i've written a guide in the guides thread in the Q&A section..
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Excellent stuff you've assembled & written. I really value those kinds of guides. Thanks. So i guess the answer to my #7 will be: nope, sorry, i am not using M2D... hah hah, well i had a good time wasting my time writing it up!
No not a waste of time. I read through your post & becasue you spent some time & effort on my post & decided to try again. So 2, 4 & 6 were useful, plus a few other links. Evetually I found some easy .cab files that worked without a problem from the Rapheal section & it's all working fine now.
If you hadnt bothered to respond I wouldn't of had another go, so it was worth it for me! Your right this forum is by far the largest I've useds & with so many variants of product & methods it's easy to get lost. My issue was that I new what I needed, but didn't know why or how.
Thanks
Peter
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No not a waste of time. I read through your post & becasue you spent some time & effort on my post & decided to try again. So 2, 4 & 6 were useful, plus a few other links. Evetually I found some easy .cab files that worked without a problem from the Rapheal section & it's all working fine now.
If you hadnt bothered to respond I wouldn't of had another go, so it was worth it for me! Your right this forum is by far the largest I've useds & with so many variants of product & methods it's easy to get lost. My issue was that I new what I needed, but didn't know why or how.
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Peter
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Hey I am really glad you got some value from it. And that you found a solution overall for your Raphael. I'll tell you the OTHER value from it: I hadn't even known of nir36's outstanding GUIDES til he referenced them here. So there are multiple outcomes from asking questions. And I could spot that in your case you weren't the more typical "I need this now, i don't have time to look, so could someone just email me the answer?" user who parachutes into XDA-Developers forum land and expects to be handheld for their specific request.
There's a continuum here of what new users ask for -- and thus I think it would be way more realistic for some veteran members here to sometimes see new user questions from the ground level of someone coming into this land of knowledge and, as you sort of said, not even knowing how to frame the question, since the density of information is sometimes impenetrable, and just frame it out for a new user, vs just the standard reply to read read read read read.
As an information designer, I have never ever understood the impulse of some early-adopter people who have had to dig dig dig and read read read to finally pioneer the understandings and piece-together solutions to complex questions, to then want others who follow to work as hard at it as they did. My philosophy is build a better gateway to the knowledge storage, vs chastising people for using the wrong entrance.
For sure it's a 2-way street, and there are hundreds-a-day justifiable reasons for frustrations from knowledge-holders seeing the level of laziness and entitlement coming from the OTHER end of the new user spectrum. They give human beings a bad name
P.S. -- people hate my philosophy comments on a tech-board. I know. I don't try to be verbose, but I know it drives some people batty. In which case, sorry !
hah, i actually like these.
Hello,
I have question about what is everything in NBH - I mean what is os.nb.payload, os.nb.extra, XIP and such, I tried searching but couldn't find anything to it, where someone would explain what it actually is, how does it work, what can I change in it, how do it etc.
And also I got question about how to insert pkg's into cook ROM, just copy it there?
Then also how does BuildOS.exe works (building registry, "copying" everything to dump from all folders etc).
I mean like explaining everything so anyone could learn from it the lowest basics of cooking. I'm interested in it and want to make completely new cooking kit, but I can't find anything about it.
Hope someone finds who can explain at least something of it.
Thanks a lot!
PS: Maybe it will be better Hacking & Developing section?
did you search in the dev & hack forum?
man! you don't ask those questions here. either not in hacking.
only answer you'll get is ban from moderator.
It's kind of rude to ask in forum with milions of msgs in archives basic questions. Use search. look around, you'll find nice wiki in here too! with step-by-step and lot's of stuff to put in.
ok, but as i just start another post about nothing...
you'll get nice general idea from very basic kitchen. get a "kaiser_kitchen"
or better, "KaiserCook v1 Yardie.Spike's" it's just copy of the same, but you'll have more recent utils there.
go through wiki "how to cook" in kaiser section.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
you'll find everything there.
and get the last htc rom. not from at&t, get this from htc: 3.34.721.2
if you want to know everything, open batch (cmd) in text edit and watch it working.
It's really simple with all those pretty tools from nice guys here on forum.
a kdyby neco napis private only cos here EN ONLY.
I'm not sure I wrote it good what I'm really looking for, I'm feeling a bit dizzy so I will try to explain it (sorry for it):
I want to found out how does the "Building registry" or how does it work everything in BuildOS.exe and such works, but I couldn't find source (bepe doesn't want to share it I've found). That's why I'm asking, because I couldn't find it. Not because I want to know what tool what does, but HOW does the tool does it. I tried searching, believe me, but there's plenty of pages that talks only about "click on play button and when it says Done, close it", but none of them says how does it actually work, what it loads and saves, in what directory structure.
// Ooh, I got it what's it about - I've written it once, but I managed to find "what is what" things and wanted to left only "how does work", but send both of it, sorry!
papo said:
man! you don't ask those questions here. either not in hacking.
only answer you'll get is ban from moderator.
It's kind of rude to ask in forum with milions of msgs in archives basic questions. Use search. look around, you'll find nice wiki in here too! with step-by-step and lot's of stuff to put in.
ok, but as i just start another post about nothing...
you'll get nice general idea from very basic kitchen. get a "kaiser_kitchen"
or better, "KaiserCook v1 Yardie.Spike's" it's just copy of the same, but you'll have more recent utils there.
go through wiki "how to cook" in kaiser section.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
you'll find everything there.
and get the last htc rom. not from at&t, get this from htc: 3.34.721.2
if you want to know everything, open batch (cmd) in text edit and watch it working.
It's really simple with all those pretty tools from nice guys here on forum.
a kdyby neco napis private only cos here EN ONLY.
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lol he'll get banned for what? asking how something works? starting new thread? i dont think so!
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I'm not sure I wrote it good what I'm really looking for, I'm feeling a bit dizzy so I will try to explain it (sorry for it):
I want to found out how does the "Building registry" or how does it work everything in BuildOS.exe and such works, but I couldn't find source (bepe doesn't want to share it I've found). That's why I'm asking, because I couldn't find it. Not because I want to know what tool what does, but HOW does the tool does it. I tried searching, believe me, but there's plenty of pages that talks only about "click on play button and when it says Done, close it", but none of them says how does it actually work, what it loads and saves, in what directory structure.
// Ooh, I got it what's it about - I've written it once, but I managed to find "what is what" things and wanted to left only "how does work", but send both of it, sorry!
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I am not sure if I can answer all the questions you have! But try searching using the link in my sign, and you can usually find what you want. I am sure all the questions you have has been answered before. Good luck!
Perhaps looking at this thread, the general Kitchen and then TPC/Josh' Kitchen thread will bring better understanding.
Reverse Engineering is tough IMHO, and lots of the tools are developed by people with skill and having the tools and guts to try it out. The knowledge are gathered by experience.
what questions exactly would you like to know?
I was thinking about "higher" tools like BuildOS.exe how do they work, currently just only this one, but now I have some thoughts about doing reverse ingeneering, so I will try something myself first. But if anyone knows answer to BuildOS.exe working:
- processing OEM, SYS and ROM (=> just only recursively copy?)
- "Building registry" - take all .rgu and .provxml and put them in one? Or just only .rgu and .provxml save separately?
PS: Yes, I can read .bat-s from kitchen and such, I tried to do something, but it's always "run this program, click on this and then close" and didn't manage to google anything about the process in BuildOS.exe ^.
PPS: Actually I'm interested in cooking via TPC & Joshkoss kitchen - pretty awesome tho. Deleting unneeded stuff from SYS is fun. (Testing on emulator.) And you don't need to know the building process (actually when not knowing it you can still just rewrite somebody's kitchen with some tweaks). But I'm just only curious as many people is.
I don't think I will be very popular, but I don't like having some icons looking nice and others that don't look so good...
Everyone knows where the originals come from and I would like to claim no credit for this at all.
My blank icon template is around 95% as accurate as the original, and with an icon inserted behind it in Photoshop, I'm sure you will not tell the difference once on your phone (I can't).
Your finished icon will only be as good as the image/icon beneath the template, and the template must be the top layer. Save as highest resolution .png files and stick them on your phone.
My examples are in the zip file, along with the PS Template.
I WILL NOT BE DOING REQUESTS - I DON'T HAVE TIME!! (sorry)
Hey buddy, thank you so much for this! I feel exactly the same - I hate having a few apps & games with irregular icons contrary to the overall theme. This contribution is perfect will allow me add my own personal icons Much due respect & credit to DINIK, whom I hope doesn't mind?
If anyone else has used my blank icon template and has produced any icons they would like to share with everyone, then feel free to post them on here.
I have done a couple more... they all look good on the phone.
IF you get time is there any chance of posting steps to putting image behind template?
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IF you get time is there any chance of posting steps to putting image behind template?
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Hi,
You need to firstly have your icon that you want to put behind the template. It should have a transparent background, ideally in a good resolution PNG format. (create one in Photoshop if you can't find one)
Then in Photoshop, open the button template I have attached in the zip files above.
From the 'File' menu in Photoshop, select 'Place...'.
Locate your icon graphic, and it will be placed on the template.
From here, you can play around with shadows and effects to suit your taste. If you want to resize it, hold the 'Alt' key while dragging from a corner to maintain ratio.
Make sure the 'placed' graphic is the bottom layer in the list on the right, you can click and drag the layers to re-order them. So button blank on the top, graphic on the bottom.
When you are happy with the icon, go back to the 'File' menu and select 'Save for web', and name and save as highest resolution PNG with the transparency selected. It'll preview before you save it.
Simply save the new icon to your phone and set it as you would any other icon on your phone.
Job done.
Thank you very much for the icons and for the psd file, appreciate it very much.
I know that you dont take requests, but i would kill for an icon to ameba
nniicckkss said:
I don't think I will be very popular, but I don't like having some icons looking nice and others that don't look so good...
Everyone knows where the originals come from and I would like to claim no credit for this at all.
My blank icon template is around 95% as accurate as the original, and with an icon inserted behind it in Photoshop, I'm sure you will not tell the difference once on your phone (I can't).
Your finished icon will only be as good as the image/icon beneath the template, and the template must be the top layer. Save as highest resolution .png files and stick them on your phone.
My examples are in the zip file, along with the PS Template.
I WILL NOT BE DOING REQUESTS - I DON'T HAVE TIME!! (sorry)
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I hope you like my icons and my other works...because thanks to you and some other people here...i dont feel like im gonna share more works of me...your doing brings artist like me to go away!
Be proud of yourself! And all other can thank him.
Im gonna take all my works down...till...i dont know...till people like him...learn to respect creator and there wishes...
Uh oh! _
nniicckkss said:
I don't think I will be very popular, but I don't like having some icons looking nice and others that don't look so good...
Everyone knows where the originals come from and I would like to claim no credit for this at all.
My blank icon template is around 95% as accurate as the original, and with an icon inserted behind it in Photoshop, I'm sure you will not tell the difference once on your phone (I can't).
Your finished icon will only be as good as the image/icon beneath the template, and the template must be the top layer. Save as highest resolution .png files and stick them on your phone.
My examples are in the zip file, along with the PS Template.
I WILL NOT BE DOING REQUESTS - I DON'T HAVE TIME!! (sorry)
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@ nniicckkss, I share your point of view about creators not or partly sharing, and I believe that if you want to share anything why not share components so other creators can supplement what original creators started to share. It's quit frustrating to have a half-ass theme on your phone.
However, Dinik always shares and provides almost everything you ask for, all you need to do is show respect to the original author, look at it like copyright The way you handle this is quit disrespectful and far from decent. Why don't you just respect Dinik and ask him to help or provide? (I assume that didn't happen, if I mistake than sorry and forget my reply).
@ Dinik, thanks for all your material, I specially love the Anastasia series. You can also think of it as a great compliment, only great artists are worth copying It would be a shame if you'd take offence to this and withdrew your material due to this lack of moral.
I think both of you should handle this in a mature fashion, Nniicckkss, next time ask and pay respect and Dinik look at this as a compliment and just continue providing us with your beautiful artwork.
I take down ALL my works!!!
Why?
Because of some users like nniicckkss.
What did they done to make me take that decision?
Most people here are rely GREAT! But there are some...that just dont respect Artists like me...they dont respect my wishes...they just rip my works...modifiy them and post it.
I clearly have writen my Rules...Here:
ATTENTION!!!
01. You are free to use my works for private use.
02. You are free to modify my works, but only for private use. (No Share or Posting here or on other Sites)
03. You are not allowed to modify my works and post it here or on other sites. (Without my Permission)
04. You are not allowed to include my works in your Roms. (Without my Permission)
05. I welcome modifications and fixes from other users but please contact me first via private message before posting you modifications in the thread.
P.S.: This are my Rules, simple and fair. If you break them. I gonna contact the Admins.
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I posted to Admins for help...but in last time there is no response from them.
So i right now i see no other way.
I dont gonna stop working on Modifications and skinning!
I just dont gonna post any of my new or old cabs.
Thank thous people.
I dont know for how long...but for now...thats it!
nniicckkss said:
I don't think I will be very popular, but I don't like having some icons looking nice and others that don't look so good...
Everyone knows where the originals come from and I would like to claim no credit for this at all.
My blank icon template is around 95% as accurate as the original, and with an icon inserted behind it in Photoshop, I'm sure you will not tell the difference once on your phone (I can't).
Your finished icon will only be as good as the image/icon beneath the template, and the template must be the top layer. Save as highest resolution .png files and stick them on your phone.
My examples are in the zip file, along with the PS Template.
I WILL NOT BE DOING REQUESTS - I DON'T HAVE TIME!! (sorry)
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Thanks nniicckkss for sharing your files. I also have Diniks icons and it bothers me to have some regular icons mixed in with the others. I am not good at photoshop at all but I managed to figure out basic layering and I made my own icons (albeit nothing compared to Dinik's). So thanks for sharing the blank layer as that is one I cannot do at all.
I don't see what the big deal is here. nniicckkss said he was not taking credit for anything and we (those who have anastasia icons) know that it is all original Dinik. So Dinik, man, get a hold of yourself! You are fighting with almost everyone in this forum (like DJC)! I love your work but man, it seems like you cannot work with others or take too many things seriously!
I don't think you don't see the point of nniicckkss post. Do you really want everyone to bombard you with requests for icons for everything? Unless you provide us with all possible icons that we will install in our phones then we will gladly erase all copycat or self-made icons as your icons are definitely high quality BUT IN THE END, THEY ARE JUST THAT...ONLY ICONS. You could move on to bigger and better things like skinning the hell out of the hd2 interface and make a full on anastasia theme which everyone loves!
That said, DInik, thank you for your icons, You should be flattered that everyone wants to copy you. ANyway, I hope you change your mind after you have cooled off. This is the most drama I have seen in this forum for icons.
PEACE!
Thanks for the icons, looks great to have a complete Games folder. CBA about whos is who, its not like he copied your icons, he just made the missing ones, right?
If i had any idea how to use Photoshop i would have done this long ago. Sucks to not being able to get your requests done. And yes, i know you have alot to do, so agian, thanks for helping Dinik out with the requests
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Firstly, I have removed the ink from 'your' thread, that was insensitive of me, I apologise. Although somebody has quoted the link in their pointing out my error!!
However, I have not set out to try to out do you, or rip you off. Simply to help people fill in a few gaps in their icon sets.
Your icon set is really nice. Nice one for sharing your work with us all. There was a long wait for the second icon pack, but everyone was patient and when it came I think everyone was pleased... but I personally was only 90% satisfied with the contents (not in quality, but is the completeness of the set - quality was top stuff). You only have to read your own thread to see that there are quite a few people who have a few icons outstanding to 'complete' their icon sets for popular programs. (Personally I think it is impossible to 'complete' a set as there will always be an icon that somebody still wants.) People still seem to post on there almost daily to request something...
You make it quite clear how you are a busy man, I can completely understand as I wouldn't have time to 'do all that you do', as a hobby (or do you make living out of this...?). I have waited and waited for the next update but you seem tied up in other things, which also look quite nice too. So I decided to complete my own set of your famous style of icon.
I wouldn't know where to start with the other things you do, or that a lot of the people on this forum get up to, it does impress me. Actually, I'm a little bit hooked on browsing this forum because of the things people are doing with their phones. I wouldn't want to criticise or negatively comment on anyone's hard work as most of it is beyond my capabilities. Likewise I don't like the way some people keep on requesting things, whether it is an icon, an app or something of the like, and sometimes they seem to do it impatiently. I had requested on your thread, but maybe you only do icons for your friends, but I will not repost and insist on you doing them for me.
No, instead I thought I'd have a go at completing your icon set myself, and as I could see that a lot of other people were missing the odd icon or few, I thought I'd try and help them complete their set too by posting a half decent template (maybe until your next set comes out when they can change them back to your icons, but their choice).
Anyway, this way people don't have to wait (if they don't want to), and the odd program that might not ever get an official icon can be created as required and still match the set.
As for you removing all of your recent projects from the forum and making me look like I am ripping you off - please, I am not doing this at all. I don't want credit for creating this template, I do not ask for donations, I don't really want to do requests either. I just wanted to help a few people to make their phones look nice and tidy.
It would be good for the forum if you could reactivate your posts. 'People like me' really can't get near people like you when it comes to knowledge of doing all of this stuff, the best I can do is crop a couple of images in Photoshop and share my effort with people. I am a taker without the knowledge/time/ability to give much back.
I think you are over reacting somewhat with your actions (I won't say that you are being childish, but some might). I am a bit surprised at how you handled this. I would encourage you to keep up the good work, it is interesting to see yours and others developments, and with all the time you have spent doing all of that it would be a bit of a waste of time.
Lastly, I apologise to everyone who this has effected, in the other posts being taken down. What can I say - I was just trying to help...
@nniicckkss and others
you might think that im over reacting....or that my distinction is to hard...but...i was hard working on all my projects...not only for me...for all you here...and many of you using something from me...most of the roms using my icons or sliders. only my 1st hd2 iconset was downloaded over 10.000dls...and by the way i was working on new projects and planing to do much more for all you here!
i think im doing much for all of you here...so why the hell you dont accept my wishes?! if i post some rules...and the rules are fair enough...why you dont follow them...why you breaking them...it was not for funn to post the rules.
Many romcookers asking me to use something from me...and i never ever said no to anyone...because they asking me and follow some simple and fair rules.
do you think i have no rights as an artists? do you really think if i do something...im ok with that if somebody do with my work whatever he wants? if it where so...i would write it down...by telling that my works a free stokes.
@nniicckkss...did you asked me if im all right with that...did you asked me...hey dinik...could i post a template for your icons...no you dont...because you dont respect other creators wishes...even now...you didnt removed your zp files...i have spent countless hoers...to make many people happy...this is not my work...and i dont get rich from that...the only think what i want...is to show me respect...and follow some simple rules of me.
but as you and some others thinks...that i wonting to much...i cant go on with that.
@nniicckkss Remove your riped files
@admins start response on my messages...and give your statement to this...if its ok for xda...then im in the wrong forum...and go away for ever...because i as artist...want to have some simple rights!
guys...i rely like this community...but dont forget...you cant always only take and dont give anything back...i worked hard...to try giving you all something great...and i was asking nothing much...think about it
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Lastly, I apologise to everyone who this has effected, in the other posts being taken down. What can I say - I was just trying to help...
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Congratulations for not asking Dinik in the first place and not being patient enough to let him do his own work in his own time. One icon not skinned as the rest doesnt mean "he's busy, so ill make a DIY icon so anyone can knock off his style"
All you had to do was ask, and respect his wishes, but now you have ruined it for everyone. To all those who think hes over reacting, well you have obviously never had any personal work stolen and or used / modified for someone elses benefit.
If you did actually mean the apology, then you would take down this thread and then think about why hes pissed so much.
Congratulations for not asking Dinik in the first place and not being patient enough to let him do his own work in his own time. One icon not skinned as the rest doesnt mean "he's busy, so ill make a DIY icon so anyone can knock off his style"
All you had to do was ask, and respect his wishes, but now you have ruined it for everyone. To all those who think hes over reacting, well you have obviously never had any personal work stolen and or used / modified for someone elses benefit.
If you did actually mean the apology, then you would take down this thread and then think about why hes pissed so much.
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thx mate..i just gave up my hopes...to find someone who understands me...and dont think that im crazy
i just dont understand where the admins are...there are here to solve things like that...to push the community the right way...but no...nothing happens...as i said earlier...im writing them since more then a week...without any response
WTF; really?
I call BS on diniks (especially in light of the earlier fracus with DJC)! Yes sir, this is childish behaviour! I almost always stray away from these kind of altercations on XDA, but for this, I want my opinion heard...
@Dinik: Your icon set and theme is superb (THE best IMO, and MOSTLY more complete than others), but maybe so much that it's gone to your head... This isn't a contest!
I also am forced to believe that nniicckkss ALSO LOVES your Anastasia theming and icons, as he's gone to the lengths to do his best to recreate your work to finish theming his phone in your style, am I wrong here?
You're a busy man, self-exclaimed. I have many icons that you have not done yet; and let's be honest, if I'm the only one requesting icon 'A' or icon 'B', are you really going to get around to it, just for ME? I want a FULL theme, not something half-arsed!
I was already fiddling around with Photoshop myself when I came across nniicckkss post; saved me some time, I tell you (and if I wasn't so busy outside of my ORD, I prolly woulda' posted a template too!)! All he did was add some eye-candy to my phone, which was already themed in Anastasia...
Let's get to the heart of the matter: Did nniicckkss 'steal' from you? NO!: He emphatically proclaimed on his first post that it was only about 95% of what you've done. He also stated the (what I knew to be the case at the time, but is only now coming to light) obvious fact that you wouldn't like what he had done... Claiming no credit for your original work (I mean, quite obviously it was you he was referring to), he tried to help out a few others, like me, to have a full icon set.
Let's get to the 'legal' heart of it, shall we:
"02. You are free to modify my works, but only for private use. (No Share or Posting here or on other Sites)"
"03. You are not allowed to modify my works and post it here or on other sites. (Without my Permission)"
What is meant by "modify"? Legally, it means taking an ORIGINAL, which you have never posted, and tweaking it. What nniicckkss has done is essentially this: a complete reworking from scratch, based on the same software you also (I assume) use! What that means is, he CREATED it himself!!! You can 'thank' Photoshop for that if you're so inclined...
If I sketch out the Mona Lisa in a notepad, scan it, and post it to the webz as a desktop background: Have I stolen from DaVinci??? Think not... Have I maybe brightened someone's day? Doubtful on that account (I'm a horrible sketch-artist), but you never know... Maybe somewhere in the world there's a desktop background (other than mine???) that has a lousy Mona Lisa sketch!
Lastly: it's not as if he was competing with you at all (not a contest, remember?); he stated 'no requests' and NEVER asked for donations ($$$), right off the bat!
I LOVE XDA, and I hope the admin's see 'right' in this one...
@nniicckkss: Chin up, brah! Regardless, I have my(your) template saved, and if dinik feels he should remove his work from online, then I'll use yours solely!
Okay, /rant ...
Completely Agreed !!!
stained-steel said:
I call BS on diniks (especially in light of the earlier fracus with DJC)! Yes sir, this is childish behaviour! I almost always stray away from these kind of altercations on XDA, but for this, I want my opinion heard...
@Dinik: Your icon set and theme is superb (THE best IMO, and MOSTLY more complete than others), but maybe so much that it's gone to your head... This isn't a contest!
I also am forced to believe that nniicckkss ALSO LOVES your Anastasia theming and icons, as he's gone to the lengths to do his best to recreate your work to finish theming his phone in your style, am I wrong here?
You're a busy man, self-exclaimed. I have many icons that you have not done yet; and let's be honest, if I'm the only one requesting icon 'A' or icon 'B', are you really going to get around to it, just for ME? I want a FULL theme, not something half-arsed!
I was already fiddling around with Photoshop myself when I came across nniicckkss post; saved me some time, I tell you (and if I wasn't so busy outside of my ORD, I prolly woulda' posted a template too!)! All he did was add some eye-candy to my phone, which was already themed in Anastasia...
Let's get to the heart of the matter: Did nniicckkss 'steal' from you? NO!: He emphatically proclaimed on his first post that it was only about 95% of what you've done. He also stated the (what I knew to be the case at the time, but is only now coming to light) obvious fact that you wouldn't like what he had done... Claiming no credit for your original work (I mean, quite obviously it was you he was referring to), he tried to help out a few others, like me, to have a full icon set.
Let's get to the 'legal' heart of it, shall we:
"02. You are free to modify my works, but only for private use. (No Share or Posting here or on other Sites)"
"03. You are not allowed to modify my works and post it here or on other sites. (Without my Permission)"
What is meant by "modify"? Legally, it means taking an ORIGINAL, which you have never posted, and tweaking it. What nniicckkss has done is essentially this: a complete reworking from scratch, based on the same software you also (I assume) use! What that means is, he CREATED it himself!!! You can 'thank' Photoshop for that if you're so inclined...
If I sketch out the Mona Lisa in a notepad, scan it, and post it to the webz as a desktop background: Have I stolen from DaVinci??? Think not... Have I maybe (I'm a horrible sketch-artist) brightened someone's day? Doubtful on that account, but you never know... Maybe somewhere in the world there's a desktop background (other than mine???) that has a lousy Mona Lisa sketch!
Lastly: it's not as if he was competing with you at all (not a contest, remember?); he stated 'no requests' and NEVER asked for donations ($$$), right off the bat!
I LOVE XDA, and I hope the admin's see 'right' in this one...
@nniicckkss: Chin up, brah! Regardless, I have my template saved, and if dinik feels he should remove his work from online, then I'll use yours solely!
Okay, /rant ...
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Need I say more ??? I completely agree with you ... I myself have no skills in photoshop or any other Winmo/Manila skinning (I am in to complete different field) ..however I want my phone to have the best look possible ...
AFAIK so many people requested a blank template from Dinik, to cover up the missing icons till he is done with his busy schedule but never fulfilled... I do understand the way Dinik feels but same time I want to have a complete theme in my mobile.
@nniicckkss, because of you I manage to get some of my uncommon icons done. Thanks a lot mate ...
@Dinik, chill out man..everybody respect you as an artist & believe me I do understand your feelings .. However everybody expect to have a complete theme rather than a half baked one including all the uncommon icons, which I think impossible to cater ... Anyway all the best with your work mate ... but keep in mind if you do not share or if nobody uses your work, the value of your countless hours and your value as an artist will be waisted & gone forever..
All the best mates ....
dhanu1978shka14 said:
AFAIK so many people requested a blank template from Dinik, to cover up the missing icons till he is done with his busy schedule but never fulfilled... I do understand the way Dinik feels but same time I want to have a complete theme in my mobile.
@nniicckkss, because of you I manage to get some of my uncommon icons done. Thanks a lot mate ...
@Dinik, chill out man..everybody respect you as an artist & believe me I do understand your feelings .. However everybody expect to have a complete theme rather than a half baked one including all the uncommon icons, which I think impossible to cater ... Anyway all the best with your work mate ... but keep in mind if you do not share or if nobody uses your work, the value of your countless hours and your value as an artist will be waisted & gone forever..
All the best mates ....
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YES, we are in COMPLETE agreement!