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taskmanager to close programs completely?

is it possible to build/get a taskmanager like on PPCs with AKU3 and higher?
a programm that automatically COMPLETELY closes programs (more memory, no programs running in background anymore)?
why do they include it with PPCs but not with smartphones?
thx.

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Try this

Don't the normal task manager shut down the programs ok?

zwuncki said:
is it possible to build/get a taskmanager like on PPCs with AKU3 and higher?
a programm that automatically COMPLETELY closes programs (more memory, no programs running in background anymore)?
why do they include it with PPCs but not with smartphones?
thx.
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man if you go to taskmanager in start menu, select it and press menu you can add a speed dial for it and then select what you want to close.

madds, are you klidding me?
why do u think i opened this thread? have you read what i've written here? i guess not. think before posting, gosh.

pinussen said:
Don't the normal task manager shut down the programs ok?
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it does but i wanna have a task manager like on the PPCs.
one where you don't have to start TM program to close other programs but one who does it automatically (look at HTCs taskmanager on newer PPCs).
@samyboy: thx, i'll take a look although from fit doesn't seem to be what i'm looking for, still thx.

Ok, but the program has a inbuilt task manager that is really good

Haven't used it myself, but read somewhere that someone was using xbar fine on S710. its designed for smartphones, unlike the other managers designed for PocketPC:
http://xetranet.free.fr/xbar2/?lang=eng&project=xBar 2&page=Presentation

Why doesn't microsofts own software have a exit button?

I think every software that i DL have a meny option "Exit" but microsofts own software thats included in the phone don't have this. I have to use task manager to quit this software. or Im i missing someting?

There's lots of software to do this eg Xbutton etc

yes maybe but why do they do it?

jonas18z said:
yes maybe but why do they do it?
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Because they're Microsoft. That should be enough explanation. Actually, their explanation is that they consider it is more memory efficient to leave programs in memory and let windows allocate the memory itself.

^ what he said. Microsoft wants so much to demonstrate that these phones are perfectly capable of multitasking that someone on the higher end decided that all programs shall remain open.
Causes all types of problems if this is done for a prolonged period - Note to M$: you can't just port winDOS code to mobile and hope it works.

think old wm devices were slower for some of those mem loading tasks
and in general people were using the same applications again and again
in which case it was easier to minimize them
an application you start ONLY! use as much mem as it was written to use
so if it use 2MB it dont run any faster if you have a pda with 2GB
and if WM starts to get low on mem it itself will unallocate memory from programs which havent been access'd for awhile so the program which require the mem can have it
this is why you dont normaly get an outof mem error with alot of applications running

and if WM starts to get low on mem it itself will unallocate memory from programs which havent been access'd for awhile so the program which require the mem can have it
this is why you dont normaly get an outof mem error with alot of applications running
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This has been proven to be patently false, I believe. WM2002 had out of memory errors. WM2003 won't allow anymore programs to run, and WM5 just hangs. Apparently M$ has a very, um, questionable definition about which program "hasn't been in use for awhile".

me too experienced out of mem errors repeatedly, usually it's enough to exit internet explorer which i use from time to time (it starts faster then opera and minimo)

Read this: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/10/05/The-Emperor-Has-No-Close.aspx

the only microsoft application i've seen that actually closed and that had 'exit' option was comm manager i used for about a year. yesterday i changed rom (from 1.6.2.4 to T-Mobile 2.26 ROM) and i see that this mistake is corrected - the new comm manager present in this rom also has exit button, but as well as 'x' button it only minimises it. way to go M$! ;]

Help with autokilling of app

Hello to everyone,
I have some problem with my wizard. App are autokilling ( i.e coreplayer, audio manager, wmp or etc ).
I have a another device thats HTC Hermes and there is no problem like this.
When I will be playing songs in background with some other app run in my HTC Hermes which has only 2 mb RAM free but still the audio manager will be playing and will not autokill. But in my wizard there is more than 10 mb free and audio manager will be autokilled if I run any other app.
I have also disabled the "enableautokill" option in registry thats for task manager. But still I have the app are killing. I also tried uninstalling task manager but no luck....
Can any one plz help.....
Thanks in advance

I do struggle wie the same issue. I can't run two or more apps alongside either.
Cheers

ksrikanth said:
Hello to everyone,
I have some problem with my wizard. App are autokilling ( i.e coreplayer, audio manager, wmp or etc ).
I have a another device thats HTC Hermes and there is no problem like this.
When I will be playing songs in background with some other app run in my HTC Hermes which has only 2 mb RAM free but still the audio manager will be playing and will not autokill. But in my wizard there is more than 10 mb free and audio manager will be autokilled if I run any other app.
I have also disabled the "enableautokill" option in registry thats for task manager. But still I have the app are killing. I also tried uninstalling task manager but no luck....
Can any one plz help.....
Thanks in advance
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I have the same issue here too. My MWg Zinc II shutdown applications running at the background on it's own where there's less than about 10MB RAM memory available. My MWg Zinc II comes with only slightly more than 30MB of RAM for use out of the box.
Some tips over here:
1. go to “Settings” > “System” and click on “Error Reporting”. Make sure its disabled (we don’t need that service).
2. go to “Windows” > “Start Up” folder, and check how many things You have there, see what really needs to start up with the OS, and delete others
3. softwares
Oxios Memory, it’s a freeware tool that attempts to release as much memory as possible without damaging the internal state of the Windows Mobile device (Pocket PC or Smartphone). Oxios CloseApps closes down other applications by sending “Close” messages. Oxios Memory have two options:
Oxios Hibernate 1.40
WM_HIBERNATE is a window message that is generated by the Windows operating system and sent to an application when system resources are running low. All applications should get the message and handle it by attempting to release as many resources as possible by unloading processes, destroying windows, or freeing up as much local storage as possible without damaging the internal state of the system. Oxios Hibernate sends WM_HIBERNATE to all applications:
Oxios CloseApps 1.40
Each process started on a Windows Mobile-based Smartphone allocates memory, which cannot be released but is automatically freed when the application process ends.
Oxios CloseApps closes down all applications by sending WM_CLOSE messages.
SKTools (It’s not freeware)
Second tool that we can use, it’s a very powerfull utility program for Windows Mobile with many functions, but today we will take a look at the option called “FreeUP RAM”.
This option can free up 50K-2M of RAM, send hibernation message, compact heaps, limitate the “memory low” situation, close tasks and also a scheduler for silent background start.

I currently use ES Task manger on Android.
is there any other way to automatically kill background processes?
Kind Regards

i do not recommend auto killer, try manually

Programs keep closing (how to keep them open?)

I know most people want the programs launched to close, but my problem is whenever I open one program (for example icontacts), and then open another program (for example opera mini) the first program (icontact) closes by itself... this happens with almost all software even when I have >8mb memory free. It's annoying because I have to reload the first software...
is it b/c of the ROM i have installed or is there a solution (i would hate to have to format and reinstall everything for this!!)
Thanks

Check if you have HTC Taskmanager or WKTask. These are both popular programs which can be set to make the X button close programs. You can change the settings of either of these programs.

Exiting some programs slows down the device

I'm having a serious problem with Windows Mobile 6.1 on my HTC x7510. I can run programs with ease, but every time I run and exit some programs, my phone slows down A LOT. The only way I can get my phone running at normal speed again is to soft reset. One of the programs causing this is Skyfire browser but there are some others. Do you have a solution for this?

What version of ROM in your x7510? I have some problems with the decline in available RAM after use programs, but the device does not slow down. Maybe you are not closing completely the started programs?

This could happen if the program being closed doesn't exit properly.
This definitely happens with iGO8 R3 Sat Nav- the program ostensibly exits, but continues to hold onto 20MB of RAM until a soft reset. Even a memory manager/ RAM cleaner can't retrieve it. Possibly Skyfire does the same thing? Opera also remains in memory sometimes, even if 'closed'.

Yes, the programs are iGO8 8.3 and Skyfire. I don't have any problems until they are running but they slow down the device when I exit them. Some incomplete operation or registry malfunction happens during the exit. I will check the ROM but it is the factory default one.

The iGO8 issue is a known problem (I'm user testing for NNG at present and there is not a fix yet)
The only fix is to do a soft reset after exiting iGO. This only happens with iGO8 R3. Unfortunately the locked memory is invisible to the OS and memory managers so there is no way to reclaim it without the soft reset.
Skyfire is not known for this, but maybe in conjunction with iGO, it is just grabbing too much memory? Hopefully NNG will have a fix before long

Thanks, Neil. Please let me know here if there is a solution.
The workaround solution I found is to leave iGO 8.3 running in the background, which does not slows down the device. So, I have it in the tray running all the time.

NeilM said:
This could happen if the program being closed doesn't exit properly.
This definitely happens with iGO8 R3 Sat Nav- the program ostensibly exits, but continues to hold onto 20MB of RAM until a soft reset. Even a memory manager/ RAM cleaner can't retrieve it. Possibly Skyfire does the same thing? Opera also remains in memory sometimes, even if 'closed'.
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I am using iGO8 version 6.00.49545 (July 30, 2008). I don't have that problem. I also have TomTom installed and they both work fine. Memory goes back to what it used to be before I start the application, right after I close them. No soft reset needed.
I am using Opera 9.5 version 15746 stored and run from the flash disk, again I don't have the memory hogging issues. I also have Opera Cache directed to my flash disk, so it won't eat up internal memory.

Yes- it only happens with the new R3 version which has not yet been commercially released, but which of course has been available through 'other channels' for some time.
I'm using iGO8 V8.3.2.64873

storing on flash
i have stored all my apps on my device.if i install them on my flash would i be able to use them.because i noticed with many files u hav to manualy look for them on the flash.is there away to over com this problem.

adamo86 said:
i have stored all my apps on my device.if i install them on my flash would i be able to use them.because i noticed with many files u hav to manualy look for them on the flash.is there away to over com this problem.
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Yes, definitely, you can use them if you install them on your Flash Disk.
I have all my applications installed in my Flash Disk, with a few exceptions. The only applications I install in the Main Memory are those that I would need even though I am accessing the Flash Disk via USB. But definitely, all GAMES and HUGE applications are installed on my Flash Disk.

How do you direct Opera Cache to the flash disk?

zozuka said:
How do you direct Opera Cache to the flash disk?
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I used SKTools which has an option that allow you to choose to which folder you can save Opera Cache. But, I did not just assign it, I also moved the Opera Cache folder first using SKTools.
Steps:
1) I moved Opera Cache folder from My Device/Applications/Opera/Cache to Flash Disk/Program Files/Opera using SKTools "move data folder and files" function. Doing this first changes or fixes any registry settings that might conflict with step 2.
2) I went into SKTools settings and assigned the folder Flash Disk/Program Files/Opera/Cache as my designated Opera Cache folder.
Simple and works wonders.