is it possible to build/get a taskmanager like on PPCs with AKU3 and higher?
a programm that automatically COMPLETELY closes programs (more memory, no programs running in background anymore)?
why do they include it with PPCs but not with smartphones?
thx.
http://www.e-natives.web.id/
Try this
Don't the normal task manager shut down the programs ok?
zwuncki said:
is it possible to build/get a taskmanager like on PPCs with AKU3 and higher?
a programm that automatically COMPLETELY closes programs (more memory, no programs running in background anymore)?
why do they include it with PPCs but not with smartphones?
thx.
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man if you go to taskmanager in start menu, select it and press menu you can add a speed dial for it and then select what you want to close.
madds, are you klidding me?
why do u think i opened this thread? have you read what i've written here? i guess not. think before posting, gosh.
pinussen said:
Don't the normal task manager shut down the programs ok?
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it does but i wanna have a task manager like on the PPCs.
one where you don't have to start TM program to close other programs but one who does it automatically (look at HTCs taskmanager on newer PPCs).
@samyboy: thx, i'll take a look although from fit doesn't seem to be what i'm looking for, still thx.
Ok, but the program has a inbuilt task manager that is really good
Haven't used it myself, but read somewhere that someone was using xbar fine on S710. its designed for smartphones, unlike the other managers designed for PocketPC:
http://xetranet.free.fr/xbar2/?lang=eng&project=xBar 2&page=Presentation
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Maybe a strange topic title but this is what I mean:
When I have PocketInformant running for example in the background, it opens instantly when it is selected from a TaskManager like pBar (wich I use). When I want to acces the programm using a normal shortcut from my startmenu it has some delay before it opens.
Does anybody have any tips or ideas about this?
You kinda answered your question yourself. If it running already it doesnt need to be loaded....
crazybadger said:
You kinda answered your question yourself. If it running already it doesnt need to be loaded....
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You are correct. But I wanted to know why a programm opens instantly when you open it using a task manager. While opening it using the StartMenu takes more time, In both cases the programms are already running in the background
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You are correct. But I wanted to know why a programm opens instantly when you open it using a task manager. While opening it using the StartMenu takes more time, In both cases the programms are already running in the background
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I actually do understand your question because I noticed that too. When a program is alreading running in the background minimized and if you select it using a task manager of choice, it opens up quickly since it was just minimized where as if your where to go through programs menu and run the program shortcut again, there is some delay. I think it is because its closing the program or checking if it is already running that is causing the delay. Don't know for sure actually
i'm not sure if it works the same way as in desktop windows, but here it isl like that...
when you want to code a program that can be launched only once you put a specific section in program's startup part, that checks wether another copy of the process isn't already running, if no is found application starts normally, if it finds previously launched copy it terminates.
now i'm not sure how does it work here in wm5/6 as it happens with all the programs, so probably it is more os dependant, but if i'm right the delay comes from the fact that taping a shortcut actually runs the program again in the first place...
banannq is absolutely correct. This is how things work in WM as well.
When you click a link to the program or its exe file directly from file explorer it is launched again even if it is already running.
If this is a big app like Skype or PI it will take time just to load the exe so even if all it has to do is close right away there is still a delay.
The task manager however calls the program copy already running directly so there is no delay.
Thanks for the explanation!
Now I understand what was driving me mad
So opening programms from a TaskManager is the fastest way to work with you PPC. Or maybe run a today plugin that has a running programms line. I believe the O2 plugin has this kind of functionality.
WisBar Lite and MagicButton (both free) add a running programs icon list to the top menu bar so you can more quickly task swap.
PaulMdx said:
WisBar Lite and MagicButton (both free) add a running programs icon list to the top menu bar so you can more quickly task swap.
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I use pBar for this, works like a charm
The funny thing is - this is exactly the kind of thinking that brought M$ to create the ever so hated "smart minimize" concept and spawn a hoard of "close button / task manager" applications like magic button.
It is nice when programs start right away, but the trouble is RAM on WM devices is still stuck on at very low limit. Now, if we had devices with 256 or more MB of RAM we probably would not need to close apps.
I keep seeing screenshots of peoples start menu where they can expand the programs folder like with windows 98/2000/XP (but not vista anymore ), instead of having to open the programs folder.
I found WisBar Advanced, but this is a lot more than just that, and I don't need a task manager, as im happy with the HTC built in one. So, what do people use other than WisBar, if there is an other?
Thank you
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I keep seeing screenshots of peoples start menu where they can expand the programs folder like with windows 98/2000/XP (but not vista anymore ), instead of having to open the programs folder.
I found WisBar Advanced, but this is a lot more than just that, and I don't need a task manager, as im happy with the HTC built in one. So, what do people use other than WisBar, if there is an other?
Thank you
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QuickMenu ???
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
QuickMenu ???
Ta
Dave
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yeah quickmenu is great and easy to close runing programs
i use it on my 8525
how is it on vga?
lbhocky19 said:
yeah quickmenu is great and easy to close runing programs
i use it on my 8525
how is it on vga?
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Dunno, I own a Kaiser
Dave
Hi.
I ve a Touch Pro with much ram. I can run many program at same time without problems (tomtom, newsbreak, palringo, etc). But when I run Opera many programs are closed / killed. I ve debugged it with my own program and Its the tipical way used by Windows same years old when a program requested much memory and needed to close others. So:
1) Windows sends (shoots) other programs with WM_CLOSE messages
2) After some seconds Windows Kills the programs that refused to close.
But It doesnt happens after soft reset. Only after several hours. Maybe because the memory is fragmented and Windows cant allocate a contigous chunck of memory to satisfy Opera.
Any thoughts?
Thanks
Dani
danielherrero said:
Hi.
I ve a Touch Pro with much ram. I can run many program at same time without problems (tomtom, newsbreak, palringo, etc). But when I run Opera many programs are closed / killed. I ve debugged it with my own program and Its the tipical way used by Windows same years old when a program requested much memory and needed to close others. So:
1) Windows sends (shoots) other programs with WM_CLOSE messages
2) After some seconds Windows Kills the programs that refused to close.
But It doesnt happens after soft reset. Only after several hours. Maybe because the memory is fragmented and Windows cant allocate a contigous chunck of memory to satisfy Opera.
Any thoughts?
Thanks
Dani
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HTC Task manager by default (i think) will "autokill" programs. Install advanced config and disable the autokill setting on the task manager with it. do a soft reset and it shouldnt do that any more.
But I dont use Task Manager. Just open a few programs (after several hours without reset). Then open opera and after some seconds some of the previous programs were closed....
I believe that the Task Manager is still inbuilt and thus you need to get rid of it and install the one mrvanx suggested.
Cheers
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But I dont use Task Manager. Just open a few programs (after several hours without reset). Then open opera and after some seconds some of the previous programs were closed....
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Hi Dani
As long as you're using TF3D, its taskmanager is running and killing programs if available memory goes beneath ~120 MB. You may change this threshold via avanced config (I think).
ULI
PS: don't do too much internet surfing - we're waiting for the new skin..
Try http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=102040&view=findpost&p=749414 and http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?act=findpost&pid=749168
I have an 800w, and was hoping to find the 320x320 TP HTC task manager.
I've tried the other one's floating around and even some modified to work with Real VGA on a 320x320 screen, but none work with a regular 320x320 screen.
here's the files.
now you just need to make the cab.
Actually, you might be able to just copy the attached files to the 800
Thanks Berd.
I wish I knew how to "cab" it up so that if it went awry, I could just uninstall it via add/remove.
I might just dump the files in my Windows directory and see what happens, but I'm not confident that it'll work right if I do it that way.
I was thinking, though. Perhaps I could download and install one of the other HTC TM cabs, and then overwrite the files it installs with these from the Pro. Then, theoretically, an uninstall of the TM might result in uninstalling the replacement files...
Either way, do a Backup first (Sprite or Otherwise).
That way you can always do a Restore and undo any issues that may arise.
Well, I needed to do a real hard reset anyhow, so before I did, I just dumped it all in my Windows folder. No luck.
Perhaps someone else with more knowledge than me can figure this one out.
Thanks again for the ROM dump, Berd. I'm betting some good use will come of it via zbop, hannip, ebag, etc.
Task Manager Quick Menu
Has anyone found a way to activate the HTC Quick Menu from a button? The Task Manager is great for stopping programs but the HTC version also allows switching between running programs. Unfortunately, it requires a thumb press on the screen top right, an awkward place for me to reach as a lefty. I can't seem to find any exe that does that function. Anyone found it?
Thanks,
Mike
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The Task Manager is great for stopping programs [...] Unfortunately, it requires a thumb press on the screen top right
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For the Palm Treo Pro, press [OPTION]+[OK] to quickly access the task manager
tuo_kaerf said:
For the Palm Treo Pro, press [OPTION]+[OK] to quickly access the task manager
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For the Task Manager you are correct. But that only allows you to stop programs. I am looking for a way to start the Quick Menu (a part of the HTC Task Manager package) that allows stopping and switching between programs that is only available from the X close on the today screen. I have tried all the apps that are named quick*, task*, tsk*, qtask*, etc but cannot find the one that runs the drop down Quick Menu. It is possible it is one of the DLL's that can only be started by another app.
Thanks,
Mike
tuo_kaerf said:
For the Palm Treo Pro, press [OPTION]+[OK] to quickly access the task manager
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Or just keep the OK button pressed...
oVan said:
Or just keep the OK button pressed...
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Yes you are write. But this opens the Task Manager, not the task manager quick menu.
Thanks.
mmmike52 said:
Has anyone found a way to activate the HTC Quick Menu from a button? The Task Manager is great for stopping programs but the HTC version also allows switching between running programs. Unfortunately, it requires a thumb press on the screen top right, an awkward place for me to reach as a lefty. I can't seem to find any exe that does that function. Anyone found it?
Thanks,
Mike
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The Treo Pro has the built-in WM task manager (taskmgr.exe) in the windows directory. I created a shortcut to my programs and use it instead of the HTC provided one and this one workds great.
I'm pretty sure there should be some reg edits associated with this but here is a cab for it.
Hi,
yesterday evening I've found a new problem: when I close any apps using the "X" button in the right top, the Diamond freeze and I must reset it, instead if I can close the apps using the Exit voice from the internal menu, the app close correctly.
I've got the same problem if I try to open the application management menu that appears only in the home (with the list of open apps and the 3 icons). I click on the "little arrow" in the right top and the Diamond freeze.
If I go to Start -> Settings -> System and then i click "Managed Programs" the Diamond reset.
I think is a problem of Windows Mobile.
Anyone had the same problem?
Thanx
strange. no idea why but..
hard reset maybe?
nir36 said:
strange. no idea why but..
hard reset maybe?
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I'd like to avoid it...
It seems the applications management of WM can't run property.
PS. No freeze or reset if the "OK" button replace the "X".
list the applications you installed on your phone and the changes you made.. registrywise and else.. and we can follow them and maybe realize what caused the problem. If we can't, again, i suggest you hardreset
nir36 said:
list the applications your installed on your phone and the changes you made.. registrywise and else.. and we can follow them and maybe realize what caused the problem. If we can't, again, i suggest you hardreset
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The problem has begun after I moved roughly two folder from \programmi to \memorizzazione interna\programmi. I decided to move these in order to gain a little bit of space on main mamory
The programs are:
Sushi's Diamond TF3D Config
Sushi's Diamond Profile Switcher
After the first symptoms I quickly relocate the folders in the original path.
Obviously I've got too many applications installed, but i've never had problem like this before. I extract the list with SK-Tools, ordered by date:
03/08/2008 Shubaroo.com GroupSMS
03/08/2008 Resco Registry Add-in
03/08/2008 Resco Explorer
05/08/2008 Microsoft .NET CF 3.5
05/08/2008 Sushi's Diamond Profile Switcher
05/08/2008 j0bro's BubbleLevel
05/08/2008 markuz Saber
06/08/2008 Spb GPRS Monitor
07/08/2008 Windows Theme
07/08/2008 Microsoft Guava Bubbles
11/08/2008 Airscanner Mobile Firewall
12/08/2008 Wiebbe's Water Level 0.2
12/08/2008 SKKV Software GSen
14/08/2008 PontiSoftware Sniffi
14/08/2008 Infinite Dreams SkyForce
14/08/2008 Handmark MONOPOLY
14/08/2008 Resco Audio Recorder
18/08/2008 Sushi's Diamond TF3D Config
27/08/2008 Montecristoff Diamond Tweak
02/09/2008 Palringo Palringo
03/09/2008 Sprite Software Sprite Backup
09/09/2008 Anton Tomov Pocket Mechanic
09/09/2008 WeFi WeFi
09/09/2008 Socket Wi-Fi Companion
15/09/2008 Mollusk, XFlib.net PocketGravity
24/09/2008 NisseDILLIGAF SprintCalendarTab
25/09/2008 Micromega MSS Converter
25/09/2008 NisseDILLIGAF RemoveSprintLogo
26/09/2008 Nadavi HTC Diamond - Improved CommManager
26/09/2008 scorpio16v 4icons_in_row
26/09/2008 TCPMP The Core Pocket Media Player
27/09/2008 ThumbApps ThumbCal
30/09/2008 Paragon Software SlovoEd Engine
30/09/2008 Paragon SlovoEd Compact English-Italian
02/10/2008 L.Sylvain Manila Calculator Skin
10/10/2008 TomTom Navigator
13/10/2008 fewbits.com Startup Manager
13/10/2008 J.S. Advanced Configuration Tool 3.3
13/10/2008 Adobe FlashLite 3.1
13/10/2008 Schap's Advanced Task Manager
03/11/2008 Spb Imageer
03/11/2008 Fabliv Action Screen 9 Btn Diamond v6 ITA
07/11/2008 EA Mobile Monopoly Here And Now v15.0.15
08/11/2008 Nimbuzz BV Nimbuzz
17/11/2008 IPC Black Dialer
18/11/2008 Marbalon's GRemoteSetup
18/11/2008 Chartcross GPS Test
19/11/2008 SurrealNetworks App Unlock
19/11/2008 Tillanosoft tGetFile.dll
24/11/2008 A_C S2U2
24/11/2008 SK Software SKTools
24/11/2008 A_C S2V
00/00/00 Adobe FlashLite
well, either none of these is the problem or i'm useless. i can't see anything that would directly cause this... sorry dude. i'd hard reset.
nir36 said:
well, either none of these is the problem or i'm useless. i can't see anything that would directly cause this... sorry dude. i'd hard reset.
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mmm...i'd like to avoid it...do you know what are the files responsible to manage the application on Windows Mobile? Something like Explorer.exe on XP...
Any applications run well but i can't close them it if there's only "X" button...
you mean the main file for the desktop of windows mobile?
you may try reinstalling the task manager.
joel2009 said:
you may try reinstalling the task manager.
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Is it possible?
I think the problem is around the file gwes.exe
I've just found this on google:
"The Graphics, Windowing and Events Subsystem (GWES) is responsible for all graphical output and all interactions with the user. The drivers that reside in the GWES address space include display drivers, printer drivers, keyboard drivers, mouse drivers, and touch screen drivers."
Do you know what are the dependencies of this file and the interactions with any dll ???
Thanx
No straight idea..but..
http://rapidshare.com/files/148831065/PACKAGE_Opal_TaskManager_2_1_34837_5.zip.html
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No straight idea..but..
http://rapidshare.com/files/148831065/PACKAGE_Opal_TaskManager_2_1_34837_5.zip.html
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I've just download it...i' can't find any installer...were i should copy it?
\Windows\ ???
How can i run it?
Thanx