General questions about the HTC TP/Raphael. - Touch Pro, Fuze General

Hi guys,
I'm a new user, and I just recently got my HTC Touch Pro/Raphael. I have some random questions that do not seem to be covered in any of the documentation I received with the device.
The only real question I have is regarding the GPS. Is there an internal GPS Antenna? Or do I need some kind of external peripheral to operate the GPS?
Also, having had a look around this place for a little bit, and noticed all the really pretty themes in the HTC Diamond area, do those themes work on the Pro?
And also, where is a good place to start looking for Windows Mobile 6.1 Apps/Games? I know there are quite a few Apps on this forum already, but I was curious to see if there was any sites available elsewhere.
Thank you.

You don't need anything to operate the GPS. Use an app like GoogleMaps and you will be able to see your location and navigate with directions.
The themes from the Diamond do work on the Pro.
You can find apps at pocketgear.com, or handango.com, or free stuff at http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php.

Hmm. It does have an internal GPS Antenna, eh..
I seem to be having trouble getting a GPS Signal, even when using the settings which are said to work with TomTom 6 (It is the GPS software that came preloaded on my Pro). I also downloaded and installed Google Maps, and that also cannot get a GPS signal where I live. I live in the middle of the suburbs in Brisbane, Australia, I should be able to get a GPS signal here. Is there some way of checking if my GPS Antenna is disabled, or turned off? Or faulty?
Or is the Pro just not very good at getting GPS signal?

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[Q] Does Raphael have the same GPS lag as Diamond?

Hi guys,
I think the subject says it all...
I have a Diamond which suffers from serious GPS lag (not fix!). This means that when I'm driving, my car is always up to 50m ahead of what TomTom or IGO tells me that I am...
I'm thinking about changing my device as nobody seems to know the cause of this...
So, I wonder if Rapheal has the same issue or not...
HastaSSSS
Here's what i tested for you on the way to work...
Using TomTom6 (6.032), driving at 30mph, using the tip if the blue arrow as my position (same as i always used on TytnII) i would say my car was no more than 5m behind were i should be. No issue going down the right road or turn.
Same situation as johnk1973. No 50 meters lag, but aprox. 5 meters.
Same problem here on Raphael, TT7 is 50 meters behind. Will test it tonight if it also occurs with TT6.
Same here with tt7 and igo8....
Now this is going to get complicated....
I had Diamond before and NEVER experienced GPS lag.
I tried almost every official and cooked ROM and had no problems with GPS.
Recently I switched to Raphael....
And guess what... GPS lag !
I used my Diamond and Raphael in identical conditions, with the same app (iGO 8).
I'll try to test it more.
I'll post if I find anything useful to you.
Cheers,
Sh*t...that means Raphael is a "no go" for me...
Unless we solve the problem...whatever it might be...
Please keep on posting your findings about this issue...I like very much Diamond and Diamond Pro....but I'm not willing to have a device without 100% functionality...
HastaSSSS
I have a Touch Pro with iGo8 installed. I realised this "50m lag" on my business trip this Monday but I thought it was due to the speed of the car (I was driving very fast for the most of the time). Now I see the problem might be a little more complicated.
On the other hand the 50m is not so bad - I never had a wrong turn, the acoustic signalization of iGo8 is very good. Nevertheless, I would be glad if this could be fixed...
And another thing - I'm not sure if you are aware of the charging problem while using GPS. My Touch Pro actually stopped charging because of overheating and was running only on the battery. So be aware of this fact too.
But this is a different issue, I'm sure there is a thread for this.
I dont have the problem with TT6.
I second this issue, both with TT7 and IGO8 (haven't tried it with another one yet)
Guys I had GPS lag on TT7 when I fist used it (Only tried it for 5min) it was awful. Mainly everytime I turned a corner whilst driving.
Then I did the following changes:
\start\settings\system\external GPS -> Set GPS Program port COM4; Hardware NONE; Access Manage GPS automatically.
Hit ok, wait 10 secs, switch off the device and then soft reset.
Now go to TT7 change the GPS prefences, to use bluetooth device and selected COM4.
No my GPS is perfect now, no problems at all. Have tried it with two different ROMs and no problems.
I have TT7 installed on the main memory and the maps on an Sandisk 8GB Class 4 SDHC card.
Radio ROM is 1.02.25.19 if that helps? and AGPS is turned on a up-to-date.
BTW it was exactly the same when using google maps.
Did you also try it by just setting tomtom gps to bluetooth? I'll give that a shot anyway before going into the register... tnx for the tip
Please keep in mind that you'll get an update of your past position only once per second. This means: The faster your velocity the more inexact the position will be, because the distance you'll pass in this second becomes longer and longer:
@30kmph: ~8m
@50kmph: ~14m
@80kmph: ~22m
@100kmph: ~27m
@130kmph: ~36m
Additionally there is the inaccuracy which comes with GPS: In good times you may have ~10m divergence on average. But with weaker signal (which one may have driving in a city) it will become even more. So keep in mind that GPS will tell you, where you've been one second ago (plus the divergence).
By the time I get my Diamond Pro, I'll collate this at the same time with my X500, which has a build in Sirf3 receiver.
I am having a slightly different issue with my TP using iGuidance 4. Although the unit aquires a signal faster than any other device I have used in the past, it seems to lag or freeze as I drive. It will not update the time, speed or position unless I press a button or something on the screen. There is another thread on XDA (I think in the Diamond or Kaiser sections) that claims to have solved this issue, but the fix doesn't work on my Touch Pro (in fact it completely freezes my iGuidance requiring a soft reset).
Hi,
I'm using Ndrive and TomTom 7.
on NDrive I don't have any problem, it's fast.
on TomTom is slow..
I thing the problem is on TomTom using this GPS of Raphael.
WizP said:
Guys I had GPS lag on TT7 when I fist used it (Only tried it for 5min) it was awful. Mainly everytime I turned a corner whilst driving.
Then I did the following changes:
\start\settings\system\external GPS -> Set GPS Program port COM4; Hardware NONE; Access Manage GPS automatically.
Hit ok, wait 10 secs, switch off the device and then soft reset.
Now go to TT7 change the GPS prefences, to use bluetooth device and selected COM4.
No my GPS is perfect now, no problems at all. Have tried it with two different ROMs and no problems.
I have TT7 installed on the main memory and the maps on an Sandisk 8GB Class 4 SDHC card.
Radio ROM is 1.02.25.19 if that helps? and AGPS is turned on a up-to-date.
BTW it was exactly the same when using google maps.
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these settings are the settings that are preset. Hence nothing changed. the lag on the diamond is bad but this is awful.
WizP said:
Guys I had GPS lag on TT7 when I fist used it (Only tried it for 5min) it was awful. Mainly everytime I turned a corner whilst driving.
Then I did the following changes:
\start\settings\system\external GPS -> Set GPS Program port COM4; Hardware NONE; Access Manage GPS automatically.
Hit ok, wait 10 secs, switch off the device and then soft reset.
Now go to TT7 change the GPS prefences, to use bluetooth device and selected COM4.
No my GPS is perfect now, no problems at all. Have tried it with two different ROMs and no problems.
I have TT7 installed on the main memory and the maps on an Sandisk 8GB Class 4 SDHC card.
Radio ROM is 1.02.25.19 if that helps? and AGPS is turned on a up-to-date.
BTW it was exactly the same when using google maps.
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these settings are the settings that are preset. Hence nothing changed. the lag on the diamond is bad but this is awful.
Using Igo8 very intensively with my TP, no lag at all. Compared it this morning with my VW passat stock nav system, and again, i notice no lag.
I have the settings in the posts above, and have very little lag. I am using QuickGPS instead of AGPS, but all else is the same. My main probklem is how long it takes to get a lock (much longer than on my old Kaiser), but since installing DCS's ROM and doing a hard reset immediately after that does seem to have improved - I often get a lock from cold within a minute now..
Rowan
I believe the reason that some people are getting horrible GPS lag while others get nothing has to do with the Radio ROM versions that came installed with the device. Most custom ROMS don't update the Radio ROM. It's 12am and I'm posting this from my TP, so I'll just tell you that the Radio thread is stickied in the Raphael ROM dev forum.
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439566

IGO 8 - GPS Troubleshooting

Hi everybody. Has anybody the same problem with IGO8 and GPs. When The GPS is off I can use the software for map browsing, route calculating etc.. At the moment GPS is connected to satelites the application shuts down without any message warning.
Do you have any ideas how to fix this problem.
I have also tested TomTom, Google navigator, GPS tuner and other navi soft and all of them work fine.
Thany x for help.
matus
no problem here, i can use igo 8 to navigate fine with gps
Dear Matelko. Your software and whole system seems to be veeery stupid and the problem can be maybe OS related. As I know,some of your apps are working strange,but my not,even we have the same packages used. Just share iGo8 with me and we will test it this weekend(maybe) if we will have enough time and a bit less of work around the cottage or with cars.
Btw,welcome to this discussion Mathew. You need to watch it all and you will get too much infos about Raphael.
matelko said:
Hi everybody. Has anybody the same problem with IGO8 and GPs. When The GPS is off I can use the software for map browsing, route calculating etc.. At the moment GPS is connected to satelites the application shuts down without any message warning.
Do you have any ideas how to fix this problem.
I have also tested TomTom, Google navigator, GPS tuner and other navi soft and all of them work fine.
Thany x for help.
matus
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1. Update to the latest version of iGO8.
2. Disable Assisted GPS (it is off by default) using Advanced Config 3.2 found on this forum.
Works fine for me, only a little lag.
That lag I know,but I can live with it. My physicall position is 50metres before the position that shows TomTom. Btw.TomTom is working fine for me without aGPS. With aGPS I had no reliable fix available. I like TT7,because of the maps coverage in comparison with iGo. I said goodbye to iGo at all.

TomTom Home with TomTom 7

Ok, so I KNOW I'm probably opening myself up here for some flaming, but at this point willing to take a chance... I've seen it somewhere, but no amount of searching is turning the answer up for me again. I have a Touch Pro and need to get TomTom Home to connect to my device, but it will not do so. I'd like to do this so that I can get some maps. I have the application installed in ProgramFiles\Navigator which is where, in my understanding, it should be. Any tips?
Its not that you'll get the GPS straight on, specially while sitting at a place..
The way i got it is via setting the GPS as Internal-GPS in TomTom and drove for a while..
I can tell you that it works as i was also getting suspicious that its broken or something but however it lags a little bit.. Once the satellites are found then there is no issue using TomTom as a pedestrian..
I still couldn't find why it works sometimes and why it doesn't..
fawaad said:
Its not that you'll get the GPS straight on, specially while sitting at a place..
The way i got it is via setting the GPS as Internal-GPS in TomTom and drove for a while..
I can tell you that it works as i was also getting suspicious that its broken or something but however it lags a little bit.. Once the satellites are found then there is no issue using TomTom as a pedestrian..
I still couldn't find why it works sometimes and why it doesn't..
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Haha, no no, I know of the lag. I'm speaking of the TomTom Home program for my PC. I'd like to be able to connect the device to my PC and install new maps, use mapshare, etc. But since you mention it, hopefully someone comes up with a real solution for the lag problem on the device.
By the way, I am speaking of TomTom Home 2... I can connect to the other just fine but it doesn't really help me.
anyone? I know I've seen it somewhere. A link would even be appreciated!
There is no way to get tomtom 7 USA maps straight foward so far. May be after at&t Fuze launch?
The solution now is log in to your tomtom home acount and choose tomtom 720 as your device. Buy the maps, save them into you PC then manually copy to your SD card. Install tomtom cab is floating around in this forum, then re-connect to tomtom home to download extra voices and maps corrections.
Right, I have all that so far. My problem is TomTom Home doesn't recognize my device at all. It just keeps the 3 step menu up that basically says "connect your device".
same problem too

Why doesn't YouTube ever connect?

Hi, the youtube app on my fuze is horrible. I can hardly connect when people in my same location can with their iphones on the same network(att). I usually have about 1-2 bars of HSDPA and even when it switches to EDGE which is what their phones catch in my area I still can't watch. It keeps saying connecting. Anybody have any idea what this may be? I don't have stock ROM, I flashed to RRE Fuze Edition, and my radio is version .28 if this info helps. I'm also new to all of this so sorry if this thread isn't in the right place and if I didn't provide enough info. This is Really frustrating though.
ladiesgod said:
Hi, the youtube app on my fuze is horrible. I can hardly connect when people in my same location can with their iphones on the same network(att). I usually have about 1-2 bars of HSDPA and even when it switches to EDGE which is what their phones catch in my area I still can't watch. It keeps saying connecting. Anybody have any idea what this may be? I don't have stock ROM, I flashed to RRE Fuze Edition, and my radio is version .28 if this info helps. I'm also new to all of this so sorry if this thread isn't in the right place and if I didn't provide enough info. This is Really frustrating though.
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Search is a good option is this forum . Search, !!!!!
open your IE on your phone and open a website, then without closing the IE, open the youtube app and it will connect .
in my experience, it will work after, even after soft reset.
there is a Cab fix for it as well .
Thunder
I tried the search option and I couldn't find any threads dealing with my question. I'll try searching a little better. Thanks for the advice though I will try it.

[Q] Any Decent chinese phones with reliable GPS fix?

Hello everyone,
we are developing a location based app and reliable GPS fix is a must.
We were looking in the chinese market for Android GPS enabled mobile phones to test the app.
We finally ordered two STARB92 M however we realized that their GPS fix is a pain to get let aside the accuracy.
I know, there are lots of threads in this forum how to fix this issue, we tried a few and I cant say we got any results, Specifically GPS accuracy is still a mess.
My question is simple.
Are there any Chinese brands that offer Android mobile phones with out of the box reliable GPS fix (sub 10 meters accuracy, no flashing ROMS, downloading apps, setting NTP servers etc) ?
If yes please advise on specific models (requirements similar to Star B92M).
Your help is deeply appreciated - we are a step before buying external bluetooth GPS receivers .
Thank you.
GPS
are you sure you want GPS to be that accurate in China?

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