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Dutty V4: iGO 2006 hangs

Hi all,
Has anyone noticed how iGO 2006 will hang if the GPS applet is set to allow Windows to manage it? This has worked flawlessly on all previous ROMs... any help greatly appreciated!

i have the same issue

Same thing happened to me...
It seems to get hung up on the startup screen

Hi !
Same issue here... application hangs if you configure gps. When configuered it does not even start anymore.
Posted it in dutty-thread. No replies :-(
I think it has something to do with the A-GPS reg tweak. I tried without tweak and it worked. Activated A-GPS -> stopped working. But I'm not really sure, cos after the 7th reboot I was bored of the startscreen so that i stopped my tests.
greets

really, when i turned off the a-gps igo works great now! i'm wondering if the fixing time now will take longer...

That did the trick! But really, what changed between V3 and V4 that caused this?

and: with every other rom i tried reg tweak and igo together worked.

same problem here

same things with me

a little off topic, but has anyone noticed that iGo 2006 is kinda choppy on the kaiser? I love the way it looks compared to tomtom but damn is it ever slow. also, if i exit a highway it takes like 10 seconds to realize i just exited the highway before it finally switches my position over from the highway road to the off ramp and if i set it to not stay on roads, the gps seems like its a lot to the left of where i actually am from the road vs the gps screen.. if those 3 things worked better, this gps would be perfect for me.

IGO8
Hi
I am running IGO8 on Duttys V4. It run nice and smooth no problems but still testing as only put it on this morning. Will give you a full update in a day or two.

I thought igo8 is not out yet?
Where is the difference in GPS handling in these two versions? Any ideas?

...works...
Hi all....
On my Kaiser, the iGO 2006 works fine with Dutty's ROM v4...
A-GPS: Disabled
GPS: NMEA (not SIRF!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Port: COM4
Baud: 57600
Best regards....
Camelot631

this sucks, assisted gps is great...

Hangs on incoming call
When I turn off AGPS iGo will work, however if I recieve and incoming call while iGo is running the PDA freezes and I have to do a soft reset. This was not the case on other ROM versions.

alanbradshaw said:
When I turn off AGPS iGo will work, however if I recieve and incoming call while iGo is running the PDA freezes and I have to do a soft reset. This was not the case on other ROM versions.
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i have a same problem!!!
what about resolving? any answer?

Number of satellites in tomtom

I have noticed something that worries me a little about the GPS and tomtom. When I have a fix, I notice that I have two bars in the signal status in tomtom. I a press this indicator, I get to the route summary, where it says that I have 3 satellies. The curious thing is that if I press this indicator in this window, I get to the screen where the satellites are shown and I see that I have 6 bars in blue which would mean that I have 6 satellites, not 3.
I know that the GPS is not as good as sirf3, but I don't think this should happen. Apart from that the behaviour of the GPS seems fine. I am using COM4 4800 bauds, tomtom 6.030.
Does this happen to you?
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for your help.

gainasp said:
I have noticed something that worries me a little about the GPS and tomtom. When I have a fix, I notice that I have two bars in the signal status in tomtom. I a press this indicator, I get to the route summary, where it says that I have 3 satellies. The curious thing is that if I press this indicator in this window, I get to the screen where the satellites are shown and I see that I have 6 bars in blue which would mean that I have 6 satellites, not 3.
I know that the GPS is not as good as sirf3, but I don't think this should happen. Apart from that the behaviour of the GPS seems fine. I am using COM4 4800 bauds, tomtom 6.030.
Does this happen to you?
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I use the TC now for 2 months a.o. for navigation (before a MIO A201 with SirfIII) and no problems. The behaviour is a bit different, example: in tunnels I lost all satelite fixes with the SifrIII and my TC kept some satelite fixes. As long as I have enough fixes to navigate it's fine with me.
I had onces that I lost satelite fixes with the TC but I had the same with the MIO A201 SirfIII. Therefore, in general no reason to worry.

Yup, similar here. Works pretty well though.
Anyone know how to update the voice, I've only got one voice, and it's too quiet... I also have a TOMTOM sat nav, but my TomTom Home software doesn't recognise my Touch Cruise...

madinga said:
Yup, similar here. Works pretty well though.
Anyone know how to update the voice, I've only got one voice, and it's too quiet... I also have a TOMTOM sat nav, but my TomTom Home software doesn't recognise my Touch Cruise...
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There are 2. versions of TomTom home, and you need the one for TomTom rider and Navigator 6 (PPC´s)

madinga said:
Yup, similar here. Works pretty well though.
Anyone know how to update the voice, I've only got one voice, and it's too quiet... I also have a TOMTOM sat nav, but my TomTom Home software doesn't recognise my Touch Cruise...
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Voices, some are free other need to be payed for, link:
http://www.tomtom.com/plus/services/voices.php
Alex

Brilliant, and brilliant, thanks!!

iGO-8 & Polaris

Hi,
I´m new in this forum and i want to ask if somebody has problems with gps detection on igo 8.
In my case, when I set up internal gps (com4), Polaris hang off and the only solution is to make a soft reset.
Thanks in advance.

fran_mad said:
Hi,
I´m new in this forum and i want to ask if somebody has problems with gps detection on igo 8.
In my case, when I set up internal gps (com4), Polaris hang off and the only solution is to make a soft reset.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi, just use the auto-detect to find the internal gps
But I don't think we can talk about igo 8, not released yet.

All of my iGos hung if the aGPS was enabled...

gnick666 said:
All of my iGos hung if the aGPS was enabled...
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Confirmed here

Confirmed, iGO and MioMap hangs if Assisted GPS is enabled.
Everything works fine now in both.
Thanks.

Ahh yes. Thanks so much. I've been trying to get iGo working for a week. I had enabled Assisted GPS via Kaiser Tweak. Once I disabeled it, now iGo found the internal GPS.
Thanks again...

Hi guys,
If you want to keep aGPS activated.
You have to active the internal GPS with a third party software like GPS2Blue 1.8, 3d tracking 1.02.
I recommend to use GPS2blue or 3D tracking to active the GPS chipset because they are freeware and very low memory consuming.
After activation of GPS chipset wit the third party software then Igo08 should work for you as well.

thanks, im just about to install igo, havent tried it on polaris yet, used to use it on my apache...ill post my results hope it works

Igo 8 works fine with my TC
No pb

rodentkj said:
Ahh yes. Thanks so much. I've been trying to get iGo working for a week. I had enabled Assisted GPS via Kaiser Tweak. Once I disabeled it, now iGo found the internal GPS.
Thanks again...
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me too thanks

I-go 8 battery drain?
Hey guy's,
I installed I-go 8 and it works nice.
But does anyone else also have the problem with battery drains?
even connected with the car charger.
i turned on blue-tooth for my built-in carkit from Jvc kk-avx33 radio.
data connection. Wlan is off. Data connection is on.
the battery was full, after 2,5 driving with charger connected. the battery stay's at 1 line.
i tested it without navigation and just charging. then it is full.

Hm, sounds strange. It looks like the battery wasn't charged at all. You said that data connection was enabled. One thing I can imagine is that this issue caused a battery drain of more than 500mA which canceled the charging.
I noticed that when my data connection is running (in combination with bluetooth) the battery drain was about 400mA. Together with GPS maybe you reached a >500mA value or at least a value your car or your car charger couldn't afford so the external power supply was capped.
I hope you'll do some further investigation on this problem because I planned to do the same thing for my next holidays.

if anyone else is having the clock problem with igo (it sets ur clock incorrectly) it is a recognised issue and here is the fix from their site:
Time-Zone Error in Nav N Go iGO 8
Based on user feedback, we inform you that, in the current versions of Nav N Go iGO 8, the Windows time zone may be incorrectly set depending on the GPS position (for instance, Minsk is selected for Hungary). The correction of the error is in process.
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n case time-zone errors appear, you can temporarily correct them on your device by editing:
/Program Files/iGO8/sys.txt
and adding the following lines:
[timezone]
sync_os_timezone=0
reset_os_timezone=0
Attention: The modifications will only be activated when Nav N Go iGO 8 is restarted.
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http://navngo.com/pages/global/eng/igo_8_faq

where did you get i-Go. i downloaded it but it will not work.

gizmobreda said:
where did you get i-Go. i downloaded it but it will not work.
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http://www.navngo.com/pages/global/eng/startpage

---Alex--- said:
http://www.navngo.com/pages/global/eng/startpage
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I mean. For free.

Don't warez !!
gizmobreda said:
I mean. For free.
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Come on guy....If you want Igo 8, just buy it...And don't ask for a free version...Warez is forbidden,don't you know ??!!

gizmobreda. are you that tactless asking for free software in a developers' forum?
anyways, iGO8 WAS released already. i'm using it on my Polaris and it works fine.. no problems with the GPS.. works on port 4... you should check to see if your receiver is timesynced. you can manually change the sync to fit it to your location.. (it has some GMT+- problems).. using registry editing. (i won't get into that one cause it's not as legal as you would think).

So what are the benefits of using iGO8 as opposed to TomTom6?
Just curious since this is the first time I've heard of it.

I use both of them, there is no so much advantages of iGO except of map. Maps of iGO are newer with higher details and with many changes fixed. They are also capable of DEM.

[Q] Does Raphael have the same GPS lag as Diamond?

Hi guys,
I think the subject says it all...
I have a Diamond which suffers from serious GPS lag (not fix!). This means that when I'm driving, my car is always up to 50m ahead of what TomTom or IGO tells me that I am...
I'm thinking about changing my device as nobody seems to know the cause of this...
So, I wonder if Rapheal has the same issue or not...
HastaSSSS

Here's what i tested for you on the way to work...
Using TomTom6 (6.032), driving at 30mph, using the tip if the blue arrow as my position (same as i always used on TytnII) i would say my car was no more than 5m behind were i should be. No issue going down the right road or turn.

Same situation as johnk1973. No 50 meters lag, but aprox. 5 meters.

Same problem here on Raphael, TT7 is 50 meters behind. Will test it tonight if it also occurs with TT6.

Same here with tt7 and igo8....

Now this is going to get complicated....
I had Diamond before and NEVER experienced GPS lag.
I tried almost every official and cooked ROM and had no problems with GPS.
Recently I switched to Raphael....
And guess what... GPS lag !
I used my Diamond and Raphael in identical conditions, with the same app (iGO 8).
I'll try to test it more.
I'll post if I find anything useful to you.
Cheers,

Sh*t...that means Raphael is a "no go" for me...
Unless we solve the problem...whatever it might be...
Please keep on posting your findings about this issue...I like very much Diamond and Diamond Pro....but I'm not willing to have a device without 100% functionality...
HastaSSSS

I have a Touch Pro with iGo8 installed. I realised this "50m lag" on my business trip this Monday but I thought it was due to the speed of the car (I was driving very fast for the most of the time). Now I see the problem might be a little more complicated.
On the other hand the 50m is not so bad - I never had a wrong turn, the acoustic signalization of iGo8 is very good. Nevertheless, I would be glad if this could be fixed...
And another thing - I'm not sure if you are aware of the charging problem while using GPS. My Touch Pro actually stopped charging because of overheating and was running only on the battery. So be aware of this fact too.
But this is a different issue, I'm sure there is a thread for this.

I dont have the problem with TT6.

I second this issue, both with TT7 and IGO8 (haven't tried it with another one yet)

Guys I had GPS lag on TT7 when I fist used it (Only tried it for 5min) it was awful. Mainly everytime I turned a corner whilst driving.
Then I did the following changes:
\start\settings\system\external GPS -> Set GPS Program port COM4; Hardware NONE; Access Manage GPS automatically.
Hit ok, wait 10 secs, switch off the device and then soft reset.
Now go to TT7 change the GPS prefences, to use bluetooth device and selected COM4.
No my GPS is perfect now, no problems at all. Have tried it with two different ROMs and no problems.
I have TT7 installed on the main memory and the maps on an Sandisk 8GB Class 4 SDHC card.
Radio ROM is 1.02.25.19 if that helps? and AGPS is turned on a up-to-date.
BTW it was exactly the same when using google maps.

Did you also try it by just setting tomtom gps to bluetooth? I'll give that a shot anyway before going into the register... tnx for the tip

Please keep in mind that you'll get an update of your past position only once per second. This means: The faster your velocity the more inexact the position will be, because the distance you'll pass in this second becomes longer and longer:
@30kmph: ~8m
@50kmph: ~14m
@80kmph: ~22m
@100kmph: ~27m
@130kmph: ~36m
Additionally there is the inaccuracy which comes with GPS: In good times you may have ~10m divergence on average. But with weaker signal (which one may have driving in a city) it will become even more. So keep in mind that GPS will tell you, where you've been one second ago (plus the divergence).
By the time I get my Diamond Pro, I'll collate this at the same time with my X500, which has a build in Sirf3 receiver.

I am having a slightly different issue with my TP using iGuidance 4. Although the unit aquires a signal faster than any other device I have used in the past, it seems to lag or freeze as I drive. It will not update the time, speed or position unless I press a button or something on the screen. There is another thread on XDA (I think in the Diamond or Kaiser sections) that claims to have solved this issue, but the fix doesn't work on my Touch Pro (in fact it completely freezes my iGuidance requiring a soft reset).

Hi,
I'm using Ndrive and TomTom 7.
on NDrive I don't have any problem, it's fast.
on TomTom is slow..
I thing the problem is on TomTom using this GPS of Raphael.

WizP said:
Guys I had GPS lag on TT7 when I fist used it (Only tried it for 5min) it was awful. Mainly everytime I turned a corner whilst driving.
Then I did the following changes:
\start\settings\system\external GPS -> Set GPS Program port COM4; Hardware NONE; Access Manage GPS automatically.
Hit ok, wait 10 secs, switch off the device and then soft reset.
Now go to TT7 change the GPS prefences, to use bluetooth device and selected COM4.
No my GPS is perfect now, no problems at all. Have tried it with two different ROMs and no problems.
I have TT7 installed on the main memory and the maps on an Sandisk 8GB Class 4 SDHC card.
Radio ROM is 1.02.25.19 if that helps? and AGPS is turned on a up-to-date.
BTW it was exactly the same when using google maps.
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these settings are the settings that are preset. Hence nothing changed. the lag on the diamond is bad but this is awful.

WizP said:
Guys I had GPS lag on TT7 when I fist used it (Only tried it for 5min) it was awful. Mainly everytime I turned a corner whilst driving.
Then I did the following changes:
\start\settings\system\external GPS -> Set GPS Program port COM4; Hardware NONE; Access Manage GPS automatically.
Hit ok, wait 10 secs, switch off the device and then soft reset.
Now go to TT7 change the GPS prefences, to use bluetooth device and selected COM4.
No my GPS is perfect now, no problems at all. Have tried it with two different ROMs and no problems.
I have TT7 installed on the main memory and the maps on an Sandisk 8GB Class 4 SDHC card.
Radio ROM is 1.02.25.19 if that helps? and AGPS is turned on a up-to-date.
BTW it was exactly the same when using google maps.
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these settings are the settings that are preset. Hence nothing changed. the lag on the diamond is bad but this is awful.

Using Igo8 very intensively with my TP, no lag at all. Compared it this morning with my VW passat stock nav system, and again, i notice no lag.

I have the settings in the posts above, and have very little lag. I am using QuickGPS instead of AGPS, but all else is the same. My main probklem is how long it takes to get a lock (much longer than on my old Kaiser), but since installing DCS's ROM and doing a hard reset immediately after that does seem to have improved - I often get a lock from cold within a minute now..
Rowan

I believe the reason that some people are getting horrible GPS lag while others get nothing has to do with the Radio ROM versions that came installed with the device. Most custom ROMS don't update the Radio ROM. It's 12am and I'm posting this from my TP, so I'll just tell you that the Radio thread is stickied in the Raphael ROM dev forum.
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439566

ATT Fuze GPS hanging problem

Hi all,
I just got the Fuze and am having some strange problems with it's GPS. I am able to get a lock. However, the GPS data stream appears to be 'hanging' randomly.
I mean, after I get a lock, it would stream NMEA data for a few seconds, and then just randomly stops. I use the program VisualGPSCE (http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/default.htm) to see how many satellites I am picking up. This program has consistently worked on the iMate 8502, Epix, and my iPAQ 910. So I don't think it's a software problem. I am also experiencing the same problem with my GPS software, namely Garmin XT and OCN8. After a while. the program would announce that it has lost GPS lock.
Anyone experiencing this, and should I exchange it? Thanks for your feedback. Other than that, I was surprised at how much I like the device.

sooby77 said:
Hi all,
I just got the Fuze and am having some strange problems with it's GPS. I am able to get a lock. However, the GPS data stream appears to be 'hanging' randomly.
I mean, after I get a lock, it would stream NMEA data for a few seconds, and then just randomly stops. I use the program VisualGPSCE (http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/default.htm) to see how many satellites I am picking up. This program has consistently worked on the iMate 8502, Epix, and my iPAQ 910. So I don't think it's a software problem. I am also experiencing the same problem with my GPS software, namely Garmin XT and OCN8. After a while. the program would announce that it has lost GPS lock.
Anyone experiencing this, and should I exchange it? Thanks for your feedback. Other than that, I was surprised at how much I like the device.
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Having the same issue
Out of the box it was fine with Tomtom7 but since I sync'd up exchange, added a BT headset etc I am getting the same problem.
It does a toggle every 4 or 5 secs between GPS lock and no signal
Know it's not a TT issue since once it started this I sync'd my BT GPS puck and it's rock solid

Just saw that this GPS problem is a known issue with the Raphael on the various threads at xda-dev. It appears that a soft-reset seems to fix the problem, but will return later. Soft-resetting each time to use the GPS is an unacceptable solution.

Same problem with iGuidance 4.0. I would get a fix then the GPS signal will go away for a second or 2 and then comes back. This continues to happen in a 10 second interval.
I have also installed Google map on my phone and it works flawlessly.
Soooooo annoying.

Try some of these methods. I haven't tried them yet but will try as soon as i get a chance which would be tomorrow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439002

I have the same problem has anyone found a fix for this or something that works then always soft reset? This is so frustrating!

try a diff ROM. Stock Rom sucks!