[Q] Any Decent chinese phones with reliable GPS fix? - General Questions and Answers

Hello everyone,
we are developing a location based app and reliable GPS fix is a must.
We were looking in the chinese market for Android GPS enabled mobile phones to test the app.
We finally ordered two STARB92 M however we realized that their GPS fix is a pain to get let aside the accuracy.
I know, there are lots of threads in this forum how to fix this issue, we tried a few and I cant say we got any results, Specifically GPS accuracy is still a mess.
My question is simple.
Are there any Chinese brands that offer Android mobile phones with out of the box reliable GPS fix (sub 10 meters accuracy, no flashing ROMS, downloading apps, setting NTP servers etc) ?
If yes please advise on specific models (requirements similar to Star B92M).
Your help is deeply appreciated - we are a step before buying external bluetooth GPS receivers .
Thank you.

GPS
are you sure you want GPS to be that accurate in China?

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GPS on MotoQ?

I've gotten every answer under the sun from sprint... I'm going to ask this here...
Does the MotoQ have a built-in GPS?
One rep told me it did and it used the Serif (?) chipset (cant remember for sure, but it started with an "S")
One told me it used tower triangulation
One was honest and said they had no information on the GPS...
The MotoQ has some form of tracking avalible, and the icon indicating it is a crosshair that appears when your phone is "locked on" the manual IMPLIES this is GPS, and says the phone is compatable with several softwares for this, however so far I can get no maping software to talk to the GPS (though I have gotten a "searching for satelite" follwoed eventualyl by "failed" using hte latest version of google maps)
Hi Ash,
Give this a try -
http://www.fonesentinel.com/
Features include -
#Works anywhere in the world
#Manage unlimited phones on the one screen. Get a snapshot of where all your employees currently are
#Current and past locations and speeds
#On screen maps to assist the user in locating themselves
and much more
Hi,
I wondered about the GPS issue as well and did a search on that. From what I understood, it is as follows:
The Motorola Moto Q9h exists in two versions:
1) US Version: does have a built-in GPS module. It will not be shipped with a GPS application, as this is provided on a subscribtion basis by the operator.
Because it is running WM6.x Smartphone Edition, there is only one GPS software that works, which is Route66. This is the only properly working GPS software for WM6.x Smartphone Edition. TomTom6 will not work and I have my doubts if the Garmin software works.
Reception seems to be average and getting a satellite link can take a few minutes.
2) European Version: does not have the GPS module. You can use an external bluetooth GPS device, but again it will only work with Route66.
As a hint: there is a phone sold in by VDA in Germany, called the VDA GPS, which has the same formfactor as the Q9h, but comes with built-in GPS. It is sold at the German eBay for less than 100 Euro (new). Definitly worth it!
Cheers,
vma
PS: Correct me, if I'm wrong...
Hi,
I wondered about the GPS issue as well and did a search on that. From what I understood, it is as follows:
The Motorola Moto Q9h exists in two versions:
1) US Version: does have a built-in GPS module. It will not be shipped with a GPS application, as this is provided on a subscribtion basis by the operator.
Because it is running WM6.x Smartphone Edition, there is only one GPS software that works, which is Route66. This is the only properly working GPS software for WM6.x Smartphone Edition. TomTom6 will not work and I have my doubts if the Garmin software works.
Reception seems to be average and getting a satellite link can take a few minutes.
2) European Version: does not have the GPS module. You can use an external bluetooth GPS device, but again it will only work with Route66.
As a hint: there is a phone sold in by VDA in Germany, called the VDA GPS, which has the same formfactor as the Q9h, but comes with built-in GPS. It is sold at the German eBay for less than 100 Euro (new). Definitly worth it!
Cheers,
vma
PS: Correct me, if I'm wrong...

General questions about the HTC TP/Raphael.

Hi guys,
I'm a new user, and I just recently got my HTC Touch Pro/Raphael. I have some random questions that do not seem to be covered in any of the documentation I received with the device.
The only real question I have is regarding the GPS. Is there an internal GPS Antenna? Or do I need some kind of external peripheral to operate the GPS?
Also, having had a look around this place for a little bit, and noticed all the really pretty themes in the HTC Diamond area, do those themes work on the Pro?
And also, where is a good place to start looking for Windows Mobile 6.1 Apps/Games? I know there are quite a few Apps on this forum already, but I was curious to see if there was any sites available elsewhere.
Thank you.
You don't need anything to operate the GPS. Use an app like GoogleMaps and you will be able to see your location and navigate with directions.
The themes from the Diamond do work on the Pro.
You can find apps at pocketgear.com, or handango.com, or free stuff at http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php.
Hmm. It does have an internal GPS Antenna, eh..
I seem to be having trouble getting a GPS Signal, even when using the settings which are said to work with TomTom 6 (It is the GPS software that came preloaded on my Pro). I also downloaded and installed Google Maps, and that also cannot get a GPS signal where I live. I live in the middle of the suburbs in Brisbane, Australia, I should be able to get a GPS signal here. Is there some way of checking if my GPS Antenna is disabled, or turned off? Or faulty?
Or is the Pro just not very good at getting GPS signal?

Suitability of Fuze ROM upgrade for Tilt?

Hi,
HTC has released a new ROM for the Fuze.
Among other things, it contains an "A-GPS Update: Speeds up the time it takes the GPS to get a fix on your location", and "Quick GPS is still recommended for the optimal operation of GPS based applications and services".
Does anyone know whether it's feasible to implement only this part of the ROM in a Tilt?
My GPS reception is variable (using the internal GPS), no matter which ROM or radio I use (some are better, my current combination works best for me). The only way I obtai an extremely fast GPS fix is by using an external BT GPS (I purchased an GlobalTop G66 Plus, and I now obtain a fix within 10-15 seconds).
I have AGPS turned OFF because it doesn't work with IGO8 (had no problems at all with AGPS and IGO6).
I've tried every solution in the book and have carefully read all related threads here. None have worked for me.
So my question *only* refers to the suitability of implementing that portion of the Fuze new ROM.
Thanks.
I would think that you would be restricted by the hardware of the phone and not the software
Well, if you're referring to the incompatibility of IGO8 and AGPS, it's a given.

[GT-I9003] [FIX] Samsung Galaxy SL Easy GPS Fix

This small guide is an instant GPS Fix tried on Samsung Galaxy SL I9003 and may work on other phones. This small guide will reduce the time taken to lock to satellites and has been tested inside a building with 8 floors and I was able to achieve lock to 4 satellites.
A much better guide to GPS Fix is here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13133654&postcount=142
Since that guide requires a little bit of manual work, so this is just a small software tweak
So here is what you have to do:
1. Turn Off GPS
2. Open LibTestMode. If you do not know how to open it then you can open it by typing the following code in the dialer (Froyo Only): *#*#3214789650#*#*
3. Under "Application settings" Change "Operation Mode" to Standalone. (Some people have reported better accuracy with MS Mode)
4. Under "Application Settings", Change "Timeout(s)" to 100
5. Under "SUPL/CP Settings" Change the SERVER & PORT to supl.google.com and port 7276
6. Reboot
NOTE: The attached screenshot is inside the building. I have received better results outside and accuracy of upto <40 feet was achieved.
Cold Start- GPS.
Hi there,
My Samsung Galaxy Pro was a bit reluctant in locking on to satellite signals, it used to take no minimum than 5 minutes.
Then I chanced upon an app in the market: "GPS Aids"... Do check it
Just wanted to know your views on "GPS Aids" & such alike apps...
Im now getting GPS lock in less than 5secs with 9-10sats in view & 7 in use inside my 3storey building surrounded my such more buildings and tall trees.
The best accuracy rate I have achieved is 2metres & most of the time it is 4metres
Thanx,
S.K.Pingua,
New Delhi.
Gps aids? does it really work so well? let me try it
Yes GPS AIDS V2 is a great software. I am getting GPS lock within 3-10 seconds on XXKB3 FW.
i'll try it and then post about thanks for the advice!
Gps aids works really well indeed, i get a lock within seconds, thanks a lot mate
Gprs
can any1 provide free gprs/3g for airtel??
is all i9003 need this fix ? cause in my device gps is OK .
awazil said:
is all i9003 need this fix ? cause in my device gps is OK .
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Its an application, not a fix. You should try once. Its amazing...
GPS FIX i9003
I purchased my i9003 a fortnight back and had wonderful opinion , till the time i checked the GPS and surprisingly it did not work, could not understand how a product can be defective out of box. however when i googled for a fix , came to know there was significant issues with galaxy S phones
Contacted Samsung customer care , the technical folks have no clues and seems to from a different planet,all of them either denied there was a problem or asked me to do a hard reset, one tried to convince me for an hour that A-GPS worked only on network triangulation and did not have a actual gps and will give only an approximate location.
coming back to the problem , The earlier issues in Galaxy s related to configuration which were rectified by a fix and 2.2 update
the problem with i9003 i feel had something to do with the inbuilt sensor, i tried lot of software from android market including GPS Doctor, GPS Aids, GPS Fix, GPS Status, GPS test and GPS essentials among others... none of them were able to fix the problem , although few of them were able to detect gps satellites ( sometime even 12) but were not able to get a fix. the sad part was two of the apps were paid apps and total waste of money
In my trial and error approach I tried a software called Turbo GPS (its free) from android market, the major difference in this software vs. others was it had its own software to manage the sensors and after installing software the problem vanished. all you need to do is to run Turbo GPS wait for a couple of minutes and then start google maps. it worked like a charm.....
adgdeepak said:
I purchased my i9003 a fortnight back and had wonderful opinion , till the time i checked the GPS and surprisingly it did not work, could not understand how a product can be defective out of box. however when i googled for a fix , came to know there was significant issues with galaxy S phones
Contacted Samsung customer care , the technical folks have no clues and seems to from a different planet,all of them either denied there was a problem or asked me to do a hard reset, one tried to convince me for an hour that A-GPS worked only on network triangulation and did not have a actual gps and will give only an approximate location.
coming back to the problem , The earlier issues in Galaxy s related to configuration which were rectified by a fix and 2.2 update
the problem with i9003 i feel had something to do with the inbuilt sensor, i tried lot of software from android market including GPS Doctor, GPS Aids, GPS Fix, GPS Status, GPS test and GPS essentials among others... none of them were able to fix the problem , although few of them were able to detect gps satellites ( sometime even 12) but were not able to get a fix. the sad part was two of the apps were paid apps and total waste of money
In my trial and error approach I tried a software called Turbo GPS (its free) from android market, the major difference in this software vs. others was it had its own software to manage the sensors and after installing software the problem vanished. all you need to do is to run Turbo GPS wait for a couple of minutes and then start google maps. it worked like a charm.....
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Hi adgdeepak, tough but successful experience. everyone has a share of GPS challenges, nice to know yours.
I crosschecked & double checked but could not find "Turbo GPS" on Android market!
Anyway, happy navigation
Not to take anything away from the OP author or anyone else, but would anyone be willing to test mine out? It is in my sig. If it helps you great, but its more for me to see if my theory is right that any android phone will work.
So far, it works on the Droid, Captivate, Aria, Inspire, Desire +HD, HD2, and the list goes on. I will not be checking this thread But its another alternative I wanted to point out, and am curious of its success.
'good old fix' for captivate or vibrant strikes again...same with 'press antena' one, nothing new...
again users have to fix their phones by editing service menu and with a piece of paper/coper =)
as it is PROBABLY the same BCM4751 chip - with same crappy board-antena contact as in sgs - you SL users are GPS handicapped ;]
could someone check what chip it carries?
//edit regarding hardware fix -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878970
dont forget to say thank you samsung ;]
$omator said:
'good old fix' for captivate or vibrant strikes again...same with 'press antena' one, nothing new...
again users have to fix their phones by editing service menu and with a piece of paper/coper =)
as it is PROBABLY the same BCM4751 chip - with same crappy board-antena contact as in sgs - you SL users are GPS handicapped ;]
could someone check what chip it carries?
//edit regarding hardware fix -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=878970
dont forget to say thank you samsung ;]
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No buddy, we do not have problem with GPS. Locks within 5 seconds with XXKB3 firmware.
I saw you your post on [ROM][ODEX] SATAN.XXJVO beta1. Would you like to help us in porting few goodies from I9000 or can you guide us whom to contact for porting clockwork recovery for I9003. Thanks in advance.
i also have instant fix, that never was an issue
real problem is with recorded tracks (eg mytracks) - while i am not moving fixed position likes to travel around, and wile moving it likes to record me off position
what bothers me is also fix stepping - every 5m not by 1m ad in my 5 years phone
as for CWM ask Chainfire
$omator said:
i also have instant fix, that never was an issue
real problem is with recorded tracks (eg mytracks) - while i am not moving fixed position likes to travel around, and wile moving it likes to record me off position
what bothers me is also fix stepping - every 5m not by 1m ad in my 5 years phone
as for CWM ask Chainfire
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Thanks for replying. I have never tried to record tracks while navigating. Will test it and post the results here. I have sent PM to chinfire, hoping for positive response towards the custom/CWR for I9003
GPS Aids helps but not that much.. I couldn't find the 'Turbo GPS' either! Any links or directions to that app?/
rxpaul said:
GPS Aids helps but not that much.. I couldn't find the 'Turbo GPS' either! Any links or directions to that app?/
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It is probably not available to your country yet, by google market..Just use market enabler or market unlocker and you will find it..
http://www.appbrain.com/search?q=Turbo+GPS
KonfusedGeek said:
This small guide is an instant GPS Fix tried on Samsung Galaxy SL I9003 and may work on other phones. This small guide will reduce the time taken to lock to satellites and has been tested inside a building with 8 floors and I was able to achieve lock to 4 satellites.
A much better guide to GPS Fix is here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13133654&postcount=142
Since that guide requires a little bit of manual work, so this is just a small software tweak
So here is what you have to do:
1. Turn Off GPS
2. Open LibTestMode. If you do not know how to open it then you can open it by typing the following code in the dialer (Froyo Only): *#*#3214789650#*#*
3. Under "Application settings" Change "Operation Mode" to Standalone. (Some people have reported better accuracy with MS Mode)
4. Under "Application Settings", Change "Timeout(s)" to 100
5. Under "SUPL/CP Settings" Change the SERVER & PORT to supl.google.com and port 7276
6. Reboot
NOTE: The attached screenshot is inside the building. I have received better results outside and accuracy of upto <40 feet was achieved.
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No such luck.
My setting were already set to the above. Not a single GPS lock.
Firmware version 2.2.1
Baseband version I9003DDKA5
Got it to work. This is specific to me.
background:
Samsung i9003 from India.
Provider: AT&T, Airtel
Current Location: California
Here what I needed to do.
1. Root your phone
2. Down GPS Aids from the Marketplace
3. Use the forced LTO method from the setup wizard of GPS Aids. (this requires your phone to be rooted. Native method does not work for me.)
4. run LibTestMode and change the Application Settings -> Operation Mode -> MS Mode (Standalone did not work for me)
5. Reboot
Looking for to use this when I go back to Bangalore again.

GPS not working well

Anybody seem to be having problems with their XZ Premium GPS not working as they should be? Mine is intermittent, sometimes when it works, it works well. But the moment I took a wrong turn and quickly fired up my Google Map navigator, it have problems detecting where I'm at. The Map will show the route, but my location is all over the place. It would pause and stay in that spot for a while, then move me on a lake or off road. I tried "GPS status" app to pin point where I'm at. It doesn't always want to work.
It's getting really annoying, I want it to be reliable when I need it. Lucky I still have my Z3 as backup. So far, seems like the Z3 is the best Sony ever made.
Same problem here...It is hard to start GPS....it shows current position, it lose it. I have to fight for 10 minutes until its stable.
the same issue here. OK after reboot, but problem is back again a after
I had that problem once while downtown... the buildings in that area are all old and packed pretty closely together. It just did not want to update for the life of me. Rebooting it did not seem to help it at all. Especially using the walking directions... forget it. I didn't have time to fuss with a gps app to see if I just wasn't getting any sat connections, but if it happens again I will.
Wow, so it's a known common problem. I hope it's software related so it can be fix by updates. Now I have to open two programs to make sure it always working all the time. Run "GPS Status" app and then open Google Map. Cumbersome.
Dial *#*#7378423#*#*, service test, GPS, Purge Assistance Data
This worked for me!
My use of Purge Assistance Data seemed to help, but I've had a couple of episodes of the problem since then where it didn't help. However, in the past three days the problem has not appeared. I cannot determine what has changed; many apps have updated as usual, and in order to try to determine if this is a hardware problem I ran phone in Safe mode during which problem did not appear. Interestingly (or not) the problem has not occurred during subsequently use of the phone in normal mode. BTW, I'm running the July 1st security update (45.0.A.7.90); the August 1st version has not been offered to me yet by the Software Update).
CyNoob said:
Dial *#*#7378423#*#*, service test, GPS, Purge Assistance Data
This worked for me!
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Very nice. Seem to be working very well. Although I have not put it to full use yet since I'm working at home today. Let's see how it run when I go to work in the office tomorrow.
This won't help? - - https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=73337848
My XZ premium is 4 weeks old and had problems with the GPS since day one. The GPS was very unreliable taking me in the wrong direction and sometimes delays in giving instructions until after passing my turns. Using google Maps and high accuracy settings. Contacted Sony today and they have asked me to contact google first to make sure there is no software issues from their side before they can look at it. Meanwhile I will download a different navigation app and see if the same problem happens.
I did GPS location test but it seems everytime I attempt it the phone seems to take forever in finding anything so I give up normally after 10 mins.
If any one has found a solution to this problem please let me know (other than changing the phone of course)
My GPS problems went away with 45.0.A.7.120
You're not alone!! I always end up going wrong directions. Compass is very way off.
Sent from my G8142 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
+1 here. it's really frustrating as i use my GPS a lot.
I have the same issue. Second time I sent my phone to Sony. I will update the forum.
Was having this issue as well. Purned GPS Assistance data seemed to help. also did the battery trick. maybe sony should give us an update that will not allow gps to "turn off" when using apps that require it.
i searched on my phone some where on the hidden settings. The Destination was 30mins and about 20miles or so. Said the gps was only on for around 10. Cellular data was used too. This has to be a software issue. why it shuts off gps at times.
Is Galileo enabled as Sony's promise?
Stefanos1999 said:
Is Galileo enabled as Sony's promise?
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What is Galileo? never heard of this. Is it a GPS feature or improvement? Such a fancy name.
CKkio23 said:
What is Galileo? never heard of this. Is it a GPS feature or improvement? Such a fancy name.
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Galileo is a new GPS system developed by the EU, like GLONASS is the russian GPS and Beidou the chinese GPS.
And to answer the question, yes, our phone supports Galileo.
Artyomska said:
Galileo is a new GPS system developed by the EU, like GLONASS is the russian GPS and Beidou the chinese GPS.
And to answer the question, yes, our phone supports Galileo.
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Yes, XZP supports Galileo. But it has not been enabled yet. :/
Had the same problem, gps not locking until I purged assistance data and rebooted the device, then it worked fine for about 48 hours until I had to repeat the process.
I completely solved this problem by uninstalling Google play services updates. This was a known issue for other phones some years ago.
Can anyone else confirm this solution?

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