Im considering Raphael - Touch Pro, Fuze General

Hi all
Im considering getting a raphael, so I was wondering if you guys feel that it was worth the buy?
cheers

I would never pay 500+ euro for this device, my business payed the bill (-;

itje said:
Hi all
Im considering getting a raphael, so I was wondering if you guys feel that it was worth the buy?
cheers
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wel.. you have to buy it.. we have it already.. hehe.
fitrst: I would never buy a 500 euro phone.
I got it for free with my new contract....
About what ya wanna hear....
I really like the phone.....
It does everything I expect from it...
There are a few things HTC forgot , but with a little bit of help in this community it all works quite good...
And 4 me all the annoying things are solved here...
Offcourse everyone has another opinion.. but the most people here in the pro section are satisfied users...at least that's what I understand....
The phone is very simple in use....it's handy... and you can do a lot with it....
the new version of windows mobile is running smootly as well here...
I like the windows because there are SO many apps you can use...
The performance is good
the functionality is good
the camera is good
all fine for me...
But I'M PROBABLY NOT A HEAVY USER....
I guess I'm somewhere in the middle ...
well good luck with your decision..

agreed with above.... works pretty well and the major complaint I hear is that the battery is crap but I get 3 days out of it given I dont bluetooth or wifi.
I won't go into the good things so just assume everything ios good for me.
Only points to note that bother me some are:
1) when the phone locks... the volume buttons still work...WTF and that is really annoying and I have yet to figure out how to stop this. I tried reading the millions of pages here on this forum but have yet to find anything to install so this will be fixed.
2) heaver then normal phones. For me I'm use to using nokia or SE phones so when I switched to a WM based phone, the weight takes some getting use to. If u have been a WM user all along, u wont have this problem... really a personal beef I'd say.
3) Thickness.... it pretty thick in my opinion but only because its height and width are pretty compact which makes the phone seem think in the hand... I get its pretty much the same size as other WM based phone but still getting use to it.
I take it ur lvl of expertise is not as shallow as mine as I'm still very new at WM so I dare not touch flash the ROMs or tweak the registry because if I F it up, then I have no clue how to fix it.....
For u to write on thie forum is already half the battle won as the ppl here as the best bunch I've seen and the developers here are awesome...
To ur original question, I would rate this phone 4.5/5 if ur into WM phones. You can consider the Diamond BUT u will hv to live with shorter battery life and a bit of slower performance du to half the internal memory RAM. My 2 cents worth, hope it helps u out a bit.

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Should I get one or not?

Hi all, I'm usually over at the vox section, but my daughter wants one of these tornados. I know nothing about them and was wondering if this would be a good purchase for $109.00 usd. Can you tell me good/bad about these phones if possible. Thank you all for your help!
Come on people, 26 of you have viewed this, I REALLY need an answer soon! Can you recommend this phone or not? PLEASE!
If you mean $109 including shipping and almost new phone then yes go for it, otherwise add $20 more and get new one from ebay.
About this phone:
Well I am sure others know more about it, but I am going to say that only thing missing in it is GPS. I mean I dont see what can any new phone do more than this one. You can use wifi for free internet (that means free skype calls all over the globe), watch movies in great quality, play music, put so many optional home screens and so many free programs as it's a windows based phone etc etc
You actualy might say its a mini notebook phone
Me and my wife both have them and we love them.
bllohin said:
If you mean $109 including shipping and almost new phone then yes go for it, otherwise add $20 more and get new one from ebay.
About this phone:
Well I am sure others know more about it, but I am going to say that only thing missing in it is GPS. I mean I dont see what can any new phone do more than this one. You can use wifi for free internet (that means free skype calls all over the globe), watch movies in great quality, play music, put so many optional home screens and so many free programs as it's a windows based phone etc etc
You actualy might say its a mini notebook phone
Me and my wife both have them and we love them.
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I agree with bllohin and recently bought a brand new one for my son for almost the same amount; see my sig at the bottom of this reply
The only issue is the camera is not much as compared to more expensive models. If you are (or your daughter) is brave enough to flash modified ROMs which are released in this forum then there is much improvement (but not the camera because it is hardware dependant).
Thanks
polarbair said:
Hi all, I'm usually over at the vox section, but my daughter wants one of these tornados. I know nothing about them and was wondering if this would be a good purchase for $109.00 usd. Can you tell me good/bad about these phones if possible. Thank you all for your help!
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It's superb phone and I really like it. Upgraded to WM6.1.
Has tons of free programs / games that you can add.
I pity those brainwashed people who buy iPod while they can get a better phone for like 7-8 times less
Go for it! I bought it a few weeks ago, at first , i still feel unsure on this phone and O2 Graphite ,but i finally choose this one, for it mostly include all the functions on a cell phone ,and there are lots of resource on net.if a new one cost $100, it is much more cheaper than mine.... so go for it ~~ you will soon enjoy it~~
I love my tornado to be honest with you, i don't really need to upgrade it. Especially with all the ROM updates you can get here, they really put new life into the phone! especially the new 6.1 edition.
HOWEVER
I'd also like to get my hands on the new S730 that is basicly identical but has boosted up features and the slide out keyboard, which for me would be great as i do more typing then talking on the phone.
Other then that, i don't see any other reason. This phone is SuperB! has everything in it!
I agree that the Tornado is one of the best smartphones HTC ever released. I have the Tempo variant running 6.1 and I like it as much as my Touch Diamond! The only things I will say against it are that the RAM/ROM is a little low (64/64) and it could be a little thinnner than it is. And it would be nice if it had built-in GPS/3G.
The price you are being offered is a little on the high side. I just bought mine for about $100 new.

Need help deciding between HTC 8925(At&t Tilt) vs HTC Herald (Tmobile Wing)

So im looking to upgrade my phone soon. I currently use a Sidekick ID (Yes yes I know). Been a long time reader of the XDA forums so im looking for some expert advice from well, you guys(the experts). From my understanding the Tilt and Wing are pretty much the exact same phone with different carriers with the exception that the 8925(tilt) has double the ram speed and a faster cpu than the Herald(wing) as well as gps. Anyway the OBVIOUS choice is (Or at least I thought it was) the 8925(tilt). I proceeded to do some more research on the phone and soon discovered the Video Driver\No Hardware accelaration problem on those phones which was a huge turn off for me once I found out about it. As far as the Herald(wing) goes, it is obviously alot slower than the 8925(tilt) due to the slow cpu ,and freeing up memory is something that seems to be more of a tedious task that you have to do every so often. A friend of mine owns a Herald(wing) and he uses the OpenTouch Rom by Ttrans1 which is awesome and is definitely better/speedier than the stock rom. Anyway it seems to me that no matter which phone I get, I am taking a loss in some form or another. So I am here to ask you guys, would I be better off with a slow phone WITH proper video hardware acceleration (Herald/Wing) or a much faster Phone WITHOUT proper video hardware acceleration (Tilt/8925). Any advice,comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Anyone??????? No need to be shy...
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Anyone??????? No need to be shy...
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Both are more or less the same
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/htc-herald-reviewed-verdict-thin-and-awesome-211475.php
http://tecmoviles.com/htc-8925-sencillamente-espectacular/
But black looks better
.. wait .. why? Wait a month or two and use the upgrade on a newer phone (HTC Rapheal). Or, just upgrade to the HTC Dream if you don't mind an O.S. switch as it has the larger screen.
Trust me, you're going to be disappointed if you do the Tilt/etc and see the new ones out in a month or two at incredible prices (to compete with the iPhone's popularity and price-range).
Not sure if T-Mobile is getting the Rapheal, but AT&T should be getting it at the end of October from what I've been told. Obviously, T-Mobile's HTC Dream (G1) is releasing on the 14th of October I think (for $179 w/2yr).
Or even better, wait a little longer and you can get the HD!!!
That´s a real piece of work!
you can get teh G1 thats coming out next month. I currently have a wing and im really happy with it, but im selling it and getting the g1.
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Or even better, wait a little longer and you can get the HD!!!
That´s a real piece of work!
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I second that!! The HD will be the ultimate device!
First off,Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it. The general responses seem to be to wait for a newer/better device which makes sense and is the smarter choice Howeverm, the problem (which I failed to mention in my original posting) is that I need to decide within the next week because my job requires me to have a phone with exchange server email(Which I think the sidekick doesnt have and even if it does, the sidekick is not a very "professional" phone and I dont want to use it for work). After reading about the HD though I am DEFINITELY going to upgrade to it when it comes out, but for right now I need to decide between the wing or tilt as I can get either one for 150$. So anyone have any advice as far as those 2 phones go? I understand that they are more or less the same but they both have 2 different problems So I need advice as to which one would be the better choice FOR NOW given the problems they both suffer. Thanks
I figured I'd just throw this out there, I almost went for the AT&T Tilt but decided to forgo that and got the ETEN Glofiish M800. The Tilt and the M800 are pretty much direct competitors. The M800 has a VGA res screen so I got that . As far as I know, the specs were very similar.
There are some reported bugs with the M800, I've fixed all the issues I've had so far and all seems well.
Legodude522 said:
I figured I'd just throw this out there, I almost went for the AT&T Tilt but decided to forgo that and got the ETEN Glofiish M800. The Tilt and the M800 are pretty much direct competitors. The M800 has a VGA res screen so I got that . As far as I know, the specs were very similar.
There are some reported bugs with the M800, I've fixed all the issues I've had so far and all seems well.
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Ive read up on the glofiish and while its a pretty cool phone it is outside of my price range. But thanks for the suggestion as I had never even heard of that phone before prior to you mentioning it lol. Unfortunately, My choice is only between the Wing and The Tilt

hard decision. !!!

aye guys. i am really having a hard time with my touch pro. it is so fkn slow and unresponsive it makes me want to break it. im thinking i should sell it and get the iphone 3gs?
is it a good idea?? thanks people
thanks in advance
wuchacarlsee
that's a downgrade decision,,, iPhone 3GS is no better than TP.
I am aware of your hardware problem with your keyboard. I am having this problem as well. I went to hTC center yesterday, but it was closed due to extended holiday. Don't you worry about your keyboard thingie, it is easily fixable. While the OS, just install Energy ROM, the latest, 24th if I'm not mistaken, it speed is blazing fast,,,
consider buying hTC Leo instead of iPhone 3GS,,, but it is your decision, your money is your own money,,,
OMG just not an iphone!!! better get some newer HTC, best HD2 if u want it faster, but depands on the money u can spend. even a new nokia will be much better then an iphone. but stil HTC is a HTC. i bought my few months ago after having a 5 years old Blueangel and believe me, that one u wanna smash in to the wall. touch pro is muuuuch better of course just get newer one and ull be ok.
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please not another one...theres enough iPhone owners in this world already...just like the first guy said...its a BIG downgrade...the TP is really quick with EnergyROM installed..i recommend before giving it up...should solve ur problem btw....
but if ure ever gonna give it up..get an Andriod or the Leo(HD2)..andriod is an intresting OS but it still hasnt matured yet...id save ur money and get the HD2 if i were you...but thats just me...its totally up to you bro..im not gonna hate u if ure gonna get the fruit phone...its ur decision
good luck
yeah. i just like the simplicity and the fun you get from the iphone. cause i heard 3gs has a 600mgh proccesor. which is really fast. i can score an iphone 3gs for 600 but hd2 is like 1000 or something like that.
thanks anyway guys.
I would certainly try a custom ROM as it really brings the touch pro to life. Lets not forget that the iphone is quite dated compared to what HTC is producing (in my opinion) and the build quality of HTCs are far superior, so if you did throw an HTC against a wall it would probably bounce off and still continue to work
Have you considered Android rather than windows mobile. I used a Hero in T-Mobile last week and was very impressed with the speed of the OS.

tired of this

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Can I have it?
First off you are in the wrong section
Second, I personally love my android phones. I don't exactly know why you are having speed issues... have you tried cursorsence? I installed it yesterday and I love it. There should be an overclock app in the market that could increase performance. Past that I'm not too sure of the problem.
If you're using MyHero you might as well sell your phone to someone smarter.
Im tired of thinking there are people like you in the world that think everything they want is the way it is. Spoiled little brats like yourself who know nothing of anything outside your little world where your handed everything in life or you cry and make everyone aware of it so you get the attention.
So.. your tired of not knowing what your doing when everyone else seems tobe fine? Well, were tired of people like you coming into our forums to whine about things that make no sense and to demand things completely outlandish.
Noone here is here for YOU. So please.. I beg you, find a new hobby, because this one seems a bit to high out of your reach. Maybe try coloring books?
Oh.. and you say the touch keyboards are so slow... You do understand that "predictive text" doesnt mean it knows what you are going to type before you do right? lol
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I do wish my magic was as fast as an iphone, but I think it is a little slower is because of multitasking and the keyboard is slow at times
ichijin said:
I do wish my magic was as fast as an iphone, but I think it is a little slower is because of multitasking and the keyboard is slow at times
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Try SuperD 1.6 or 1.4
aotiko said:
@crypysmoker
How exactly is the world tired of people who don't like overrated products? Maybe the world is tired of people like you who love mediocrity. It is literally impossible for you people to not have speed issues. Every single person here has complained about it so dont make it seem like you "figured it all out". Even brand new android phones are reviewed as slow. And having the solution to root your phone to make it at a tolerable speed isnt acceptable for buying a phone for $500.
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What he means is no body force you to get this device.
If there is something else you like better go get it and leave this place.
I don't even want to begin guessing what "Even brand new android phones are reviewed as slow" means. Because if you're reffering to the Droid and Nexus One you could not be ANY FARTHER from the truth.
You have no facts, you say rooting is the only way to speed up a phone which is clearly wrong.
Why would people want to rip you a new one. You're a troll.
I agree in some way with you aotiko, fortunately my magic only cost's me 170€ without any contract otherwise for 500$ i had gone for an iphone.
typing some times is reallt slow, i'm on the snd word and the android is still writing the first (i'm now using the 2.1 and it is much better).
multi touch sucks, multi tasking is horrible because everything gets slower! (this was on my original 1.5, 2.1 i'm using since today so I still don't have an opinion)
keyboard is not as precise as iphone is (better on 2.0 too, the vibrate on is working much better).
battery life isn't worst but it is not good.
And what bugs me is that apple with a cpu with same velocity as magic done a f*cking fast phone with the 3gs! even with multi tasks on after jailbreak is is much faster, and as I've said CPU have the same speed as magic!
What hct and all other brands do is just increasing cpu speed, don't worry about sW optimisation and that is not good.
It looks like what intel and AMD done in the past in the pentium generation, more cpu clock, better. And it finally come to an end when problems with heat and stuff like that appear.
In the overall I still like my magic, but I won't if i had paid 500$!
just my 2 cents
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I have an HTC Magic 32A and i'm sick of it. It's so slow I don't even like using it anymore. I try all the roms that people claim are "EXTREMELY FAST!!!" and they are STILL slow. The scrolling on text messages, in a browser, or even in menus is very jittery. Android users are always ripping on iphones how they can't multitask until you jailbreak them but people root android phones to make them usably fast which isn't even that helpful. I don't see how I can possibly be doing anything wrong. Does everyone here secretly not enjoy their phones and that's why they are always here to find a ROM that they can actually use? I tell everyone I love it but I really don't. The keyboard is always behind in typing, even in a store on a brand new phone. It really seems like Google released android in a very very very early beta stage just so they won't fall behind in market share.
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Blow it out your ass!
Seriously, this forum is literally full of satisfied Android phone owners! If you are not satisfied with your phone, talk the store that sold it to you. Stop whining here.
My two cents...
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Blow it out your ass!
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I think it would be better if I sacrifice myself and take his phone, since he doesn't like it !!!
is this a 10 year old boys conversation?
it looks like one.
com one guys! people have the right to their opinion, respect that and just don't act like an asshole(s)
MMartins said:
is this a 10 year old boys conversation?
it looks like one.
com one guys! people have the right to their opinion, respect that and just don't act like an asshole(s)
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Yes people are entitled to their opinion. But when someone comes here criticizing the work of these wonderful devs and making baseless arguments. They should leave.
Get an iPhone, and don't come back here. Simple as that.
I hope you are not talking about me!
I've not critized any one's work! we have were underfull devs no doubts about that!
but people can say what do work good and don't.
Most speed problems are not related to the devs but actually to the SO.
so please read carfully before start complaining.
Is iphone perfect? NO
is android perfect? NO
as i've said I love my android but for me iphone 3gs is faster with no doubts (NOT said better)
i will try my hero rom, as my girlfriend's hero with original rom, rotates faster, zoom faster than my 2.1 eclair rom.
MMartins said:
I hope you are not talking about me!
I've not critized any one's work! we have were underfull devs no doubts about that!
but people can say what do work good and don't.
Most speed problems are not related to the devs but actually to the SO.
so please read carfully before start complaining.
Is iphone perfect? NO
is android perfect? NO
as i've said I love my android but for me iphone 3gs is faster with no doubts (NOT said better)
i will try my hero rom, as my girlfriend's hero with original rom, rotates faster, zoom faster than my 2.1 eclair rom.
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I'm not talking about you. Read the OP. Ungrateful for the for of these devs that do their work for simply donations.
i paid 200$ + 35$ activation fee and regret it everyday.
yes i have a stable and "fast" rom and i know how to use my root/sd card and all the settings, but id rather not have to go thru all the non sense.
if i could do it all over again i would have either waited for the android development to get to where we need it or just went with an iphone.
ALL this arguments just because JAVA.
BTW, iPhone processor's frequency is a bit higher.
HTC Magic is a kickass phone and I love it. It's smooth enough for me and I'm sure 2.1 will be faster.
darvo said:
BTW, iPhone processor's frequency is a bit higher.
HTC Magic is a kickass phone and I love it. It's smooth enough for me and I'm sure 2.1 will be faster.
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Yea im sure too. Cant wait for the Nexus1 to be released in Denmark though

Thoughts on the HTC Fuze?

Hi, new to HTC phones, been an apple fanboy, but now I'm trying out different phones. I've been eyeing this one, HTC Fuze of late, cause mainly, I don't have a data plan and don't plan on too either. I want to know what owners think about this phone, and I can decide from there.
I mean many youtube comments of reviews over this phone been on both sides, and I mean the phone has been discontinued and people say from all the bugs and problems.
Sway me people on the XDA forums! Are you happy with the choice of this phone and recommend it? Or pull me out of its death trap.
Please comment cause it would really help. Thank you.
Fuze is a pretty good cell phone.It's vga lcd is impressing!!!
I use mine daily for work & leisure with a TAEL ROM, works fine for me I like it.
If you can live without a keyboard it may be worth looking at the Diamond 2.
These devices are good but you do need to more technically capable to get the most from them.
Will be sticking to mine for a while as minimal button & no d-pad devices are ****e in the real world, I have yet to see anyone who can type as fast & error free on a touch keyboard.
I've had my fuze since it came out and i love it. I usually run the latest energy rom on mine though and I didn't like the phone near as much without it. So my advice is if you have a little computer know-how and are willing to read the forums the hardware is just fine and everything is here to make the fuze exactly what you want it to be, well aside from the 1Ghz speed and wvga res of the new gen of phones I'd say go for it
Oh and I second the look at the diamond 2 if you don't need hardware keys cause it has a better blue tooth stack, but no keyboard means I won't buy personally
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pwntatochips said:
Hi, new to HTC phones, been an apple fanboy, but now I'm trying out different phones. I've been eyeing this one, HTC Fuze of late, cause mainly, I don't have a data plan and don't plan on too either. I want to know what owners think about this phone, and I can decide from there.
I mean many youtube comments of reviews over this phone been on both sides, and I mean the phone has been discontinued and people say from all the bugs and problems.
Sway me people on the XDA forums! Are you happy with the choice of this phone and recommend it? Or pull me out of its death trap.
Please comment cause it would really help. Thank you.
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for around 100 bucks its a really solid phone assuming you only need english load up the latest http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751 energy rom(id suggust cookie 23xxx builds) and all those problems disappear (except camera, still as in reviews)
once you put the new roms on it you would think it was released in late 2009
So does any one know what are the best roms and changes?
it all depends on which phone did you previously used...if you have used low level phone..then definately you will like this......i love this phone.....especially when using energy roms.....as previously i had htc opal.....
I had the HTC Fuze and the problem with these phone with a keyboard is that it will eventually break over time. The phone was also thick and heavy. Oh yeah, the D-pad was practically unusable. I dont know if the Touch Pro shares the same problem as the Fuze. Anyways the main thing that got me to sell the phone was the keyboard breaking.
the board will break????

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