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New to Fuze need some help/advice (Fuze vs Iphone 3G w/ new 3.0 update)

Hello everyone, I just recently purchased a Fuze and had some questions and concerns. Well to start off I first had a Tilt (8925) and oh man was that awful that thing would never work when i wanted to and it was huge. Later i got an Iphone 3G and I have to say I was surprised. I had low expectations from it specially since apple locked it down, but then I jailbroke it and it worked pretty well, but there was still somethings i didnt like about it:
1. No landscape sms [biggest concern i have large fingers and typing on that was pretty hard. got used to it after a while but it was way better on safari when i could landscape]
2. No MMS
3. No peep 2 peer transfers
4. No bluetooth or stereo bluetooth. [whats the point if of having an ipod in my cell phone if i have to have the damn headphones plugged in
So I gave the Iphone to my brother and just used a regular BlackJack for a while. So I got my brother to upgrade his line to a Fuze and give it to me since I gave him my Iphone [it will be arriving tomorrow]. But then later I go on the apple website and see that they're coming out with Iphone OS 3.0 that will enable all the features I wanted and yet even more! So now im like wtf should I just return the Fuze for an Iphone or give my fuze a try. The only thing is that i would like to customize my fuze with a different rom, themes and programs. Pretty much make it better thatn the Iphone. So what are so popular roms, apps, and things of that nature you guys like using. Like is there an app to watch youtube, add games and all that good stuff?
My main use for the phone will be texting, taking pictures and browsing the internet. I could care less about word, musicID and all that other bull**** att decided to **** up their PDA's with.
Thanks

I'm going back and forth with my Q9H and my fuze. the only thing that is killing me about the fuze is the crappy battery life.

this is a tough call, but I'd say fuze is winning slightly compared to iphone 3g.
Texting: Fuze >>> Iphone 3g
Picture: Fuze >>> Iphone 3g
Browsing: arguably iphone 3g > Fuze (depends on personal preference)
I like what they did to OS 3.0 - it literally got everything I'd want in an iphone. But the #1 deal-killer is still lack of user-replaceable battery. And iphone doesn't have the ability to turn off 3G automatically, which results in battery drain. If you listen to music and rent itunes video as well, I'd prob go with iphone since it'll satisfy more of your needs; otherwise I'd stick with the fuze for now. You can always sell it later and get the 4th gen iphone! (which hopefully will have better camera and battery life)

well the fuze has a better camera in my opinion... it has a physical keyboard... and the fuze has way more customizing options... the iPhone is cool but i say stick with the fuze

the biggest wins for me of the fuze over the iphone is the PHYSICAL KEYBOARD.
i can't do on screen keyboards for more than a text message. It's annoying too cuz you ahve to always look at where your fingers are. i love that i don't have to stare at my keyboard when typing.
the next biggest thing for me is the ability to tweak the $hit out of the fuze. ROMs, radios, themes, registry tweaks. So much you can do with it...
the battery life issue can also be fixed with the fuze depending on hwo you set it up. depends on your rom, whether or not you have 3g enabled (which you CAN turn off!) gps use, etc. The iphone doesn't let you control any of these other factors.
Besides, how many people do you know with iPhones? they're all over the place...

Another plus for the fuze is the amount of support there is. You know that when Windows Mobile 8 will come out (eventually) there will be somebody who has ported it to the fuze. I called up ATT and they sent me a new battery, and all that for free. The only thing you lose is the great music playback.

PwnCakes193 said:
Another plus for the fuze is the amount of support there is. You know that when Windows Mobile 8 will come out (eventually) there will be somebody who has ported it to the fuze. I called up ATT and they sent me a new battery, and all that for free. The only thing you lose is the great music playback.
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how did you get the battery for free? did you need to send your old one back? I could use a new/free/extra one!!!

Since you've played with the iPhone 3G... use the Fuze for a month. First thing I would do is download a Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade from the ROM Forum. Give that a go.
You have 30 days to test and play with it. In the end, if you feel the iPhone is better suited for you then exchange it.
Although I've been following up on the iPhone and I think they're gonna have a new model this year that is faster. I was gonna buy one for my wife, but not until I know for sure if the new model will be better or not.

player911 said:
Since you've played with the iPhone 3G... use the Fuze for a month. First thing I would do is download a Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade from the ROM Forum. Give that a go.
You have 30 days to test and play with it. In the end, if you feel the iPhone is better suited for you then exchange it.
Although I've been following up on the iPhone and I think they're gonna have a new model this year that is faster. I was gonna buy one for my wife, but not until I know for sure if the new model will be better or not.
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yea ill probly do that.. i actuallu have been checking up on the new iphone.. its ment to be realeased for June 29 so actually not to long from now.. the big diffrerences will be the new operating system and a much better camera at 3.2. also its rumored that it will have a camera on the front for ichat [video conferencing] so guess will have to wait and see how good it is and if its worth the price

Well there was this pretty nuetral site that compared the iphone 3g with the 3.0 os and a fuze with windows mobile 6.5. the fuze won by a land slide. really the iphone has nothing to offer. its just a big screen with a ton of animations. if u want the iphone i would wait though. a new iphone is supposed to come out in June or July and will cost $99

assassin82492 said:
Well there was this pretty nuetral site that compared the iphone 3g with the 3.0 os and a fuze with windows mobile 6.5. the fuze won by a land slide. really the iphone has nothing to offer. its just a big screen with a ton of animations. if u want the iphone i would wait though. a new iphone is supposed to come out in June or July and will cost $99
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a link would be great if you could dig it up. sounds interesting!!

nhshah7 said:
how did you get the battery for free? did you need to send your old one back? I could use a new/free/extra one!!!
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lied and said battery lfie was poor and overheated. No need to send it back.

PwnCakes193 said:
lied and said battery lfie was poor and overheated. No need to send it back.
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amazing, i'll try that!

nhshah7 said:
amazing, i'll try that!
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Ive got two batteries sitting next to me right now . Its also how I got my Fuze, if you're phone breaks enough times, they offer you 3 different phones. For my old Q9h they offered me the Centro, the Curve, and the Fuze. You can also use the method of telling them that something doesn't work and they'll replace your phone for free. Thats how I get out of a phone with scratches.

http://www.nicholasoverstreet.com/2009/04/att-fuze-vs-iphone/
That might be the link you're looking for

PwnCakes193 said:
Ive got two batteries sitting next to me right now . Its also how I got my Fuze, if you're phone breaks enough times, they offer you 3 different phones. For my old Q9h they offered me the Centro, the Curve, and the Fuze. You can also use the method of telling them that something doesn't work and they'll replace your phone for free. Thats how I get out of a phone with scratches.
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PwnCakes193 said:
http://www.nicholasoverstreet.com/2009/04/att-fuze-vs-iphone/
That might be the link you're looking for
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thanks for the link
and don't they send you refurbs though?

nhshah7 said:
thanks for the link
and don't they send you refurbs though?
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yeh, but their refurbs are all right.

i know im going to either get laughed at or yelled at for flamming but, how do u flash a phone using nbh file with out an sd card.. all the other roms ive used i just click on it and follow directions but this one i downloaded doesnt do anything

also how do u find the programs when touch flo 3d is turned off... i cant seem to find them.. all i see is like a list like media, messages, weather, and all that but no progrmas. also when i go to start i cant find them either.. only under touch flo 3d

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also how do u find the programs when touch flo 3d is turned off... i cant seem to find them.. all i see is like a list like media, messages, weather, and all that but no progrmas. also when i go to start i cant find them either.. only under touch flo 3d
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To flash a rom without a sd card. you need a raphael wrapper.exe file. put the .exe file inside the folder the .nbh file is in and run the .exe

Please Urgent Quick Advice needed

Im on orange and in my upgrade period. I was going to go to another network but i got a deal from Orange.
Please can you help urgently with what you guys would recommend.
Last week i went for the Blackberry 8900 Curve but i am used to touchscreens and told orange who advised i could have the below phones. Also i wanted the SE Xperia X1 but was told that this was "never" released on Orange due to not passing various tests and that they would highly recommend against it. I see on here that the new Xperia X2 is soon to be out, when that is i dont know and if it will be a normal non buggy functional phone.
Nokia E71 - not touchscreen though
Blackberry 8900 Curve - Not touchscreen, not 3G, 150 sms storage limit
HTC Hero
HTC Touch (apparently cant have the pro version??)
HTC Touch HD
Samsung Omni HD i8910HD - OLED screen doesnt last long??
Nokia 97
Toshiba TG01 - Review doesnt have much favour for it at www.techradar.com , phone is also quite big
Can you guys advise cos it will be a 24 month contract and i rfeally dont want a handset that will be a problem for all that time.
I have used previously the SE P910i/P990i and also the HTC tytn 2.
I liked the P910i thought it was slow and then i came across the P990i and was unhappy with its sluggish performance, buggy software, and constant problems inc bluetooth not wanting to work with all other handsets. I liked the SE P Series phones as they backed up my contacts/sms etc onto a pc so if i ever losty the phone i could retrieve it and as well as that being able to do a lot more with them than a normal phone ie programs and ability to save unlimited (as far as i could tell) Sms/Mms etc.
The Tytn 2 would have been ok but it really peeved me off a lot of the t, ususally from the touch screen not feeling my touch lol. ALso a key thing for me, it didnt backup the phone contacts or sms.
PLease could you guys tell me what is a good phone to get and also of any other recommendations as i have tried an dtried to look on goog;e and reviews etc but it seems i keep getting the wrong info or if it is right i get more negative reviews than positive. Its really frustrating me now.
I would like the following functions:
Touchscreen
Backup to pc of phonebook contacts/Sms/Mms
Ability to be able to save unlimited Phonebook numbers and Sms
Ability to be used as a satnav using the Oraneg (UK) nav software or possible other co
Preferable to have 3G capability
Intuitive GUI
Least amount of headache so no buggy software or not doing as told lol or real slow performance
I will use as a media device but as a bsuiness pda type when i can start a business.
I need to know in the next asap i had to tell them today but they have been pushed to tommorow.
Please help and if you need any more info please do ask. As far as i recall i think i have covered it all.
Thanks

Welcome to forums
I would go for Touch Pro 2, and in second place I´ll chose Tosh TG01

Uhh..hello Hero.

although this isnt completely relavent to your post
u say u want a reliable phone as you dont want a problem phone for 24 months
theres a clause in orange contracts thats states if you have 3 faults the same during ur contract then thy will offer to give you a different handset
it takes a while too argue but it works
after sending me faulty samsung omnias that kept failing (handset lockups) i told them i wouldr prefer a different phone as id rater not have a 4th faulty phone
one guy told me this isnt in the rules isaid id take it up with another department they said it is in the rules but they logged my three handset locjups as keyboard failures. so there fore i wasnt entitled to a ifferent handset
after only three days of constant *****ing they finally told me theyd send my a touch hd
the moral to the story, dont be scared to ***** and moan

After playing with my wife's HTC Magic, I would happily recommend the HTC Hero. Capacitive touchscreen, responsive OS, plenty of apps for download, "proper" satnav through CoPilot Live and decent location services.
If you're set on sticking with WinMo then the Toshiba TG01 isn't bad at all. Yes it is quite large compared to some handsets, but the raw speed is noticeable in general app use and the screensize would make satnav a joy.
Another one to consider is the Samsung Omnia B7610 (Louvre). Think of it as a Samsung version of the Touch Pro 2.

orb3000 said:
Welcome to forums
I would go for Touch Pro 2, and in second place I´ll chose Tosh TG01
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Thnaks for the welcome and info.
Any reason for the touch pro over the TG01? ALthough i was put off by the review of the TG01.
Also i dont think they will let me have the touch pro as its on the orange business section.
What is the difference between toun n the pro version? Just software?
Thanks again

fociz said:
Uhh..hello Hero.
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Lol Thanks

Pilot -
Thanks ref the isnurance advice.
I have been down this route and to say i was talking to brick walls or that getting water out of a stone would probably be near the mark lol.
Orange were adamant i didnt have a problem with my SE P990i and also didnt tell me about the 3 strike rule either.
I was a good boy and didnt ask for a different moidel for about 18 months. The phone would just trun the backlight on fo rno reason on and off, the bluetooth decided it didnt like lg phones etc, it would do soo many things that would peeve me off and to think that my old trusty P910i was thought of as slow, man that was like a Pebtium 4 PC compared to the lowly P2 status of the P990i.
Yeah, basically one day after having lost my cool a few times with orange i got fed up and asked for a different model phone (after like the 5th replacement and all the palaava to get it flashed with backup etc taking an hour each time or so as well as the time wasted and onconvenience. They wouldnt do it cos they then aftyer 18 months said i have to have had 3 faults with it. I said wtf, howmany times have i rang you, how many replacement have i had, they then said no actually you need to have reported the same fault 3 times and i said wtf again - i said i have had the same faultS for 18 months with at least 5 handsets fi the same model but they said well... it depends what WE have logged on our system and wouldnt you believe it they had different logged faults for each scenario. So i said send a new P990i and iw ill show fault on bluetoothe again, so they did and i proved it again an dthen again. SO 3 times and each of these times ie 5 before and twice later they tried to charge me 30 pounds as per conditions through my insurance with them. The cheeky so and so's. I told them 2 year sony gurantee they said no, rang sony with them on the line, they shutup but then said i had to deal with sony direct, referred them to consumer law which apparently they dont know anything about, so i reffered them to their lawers to ask such questions, each tikme i had to go through this ****e and they each time pretended they had no idea what i was going on about.
Anyway, i have only claimed once in like 13 years for a mobile phone through orange.
£5 x 12 = 60
£60 x 12.5 = £735 the bsterds
Thnaks pilot, i wish i had joined this site like a coupole of years ago man, i did se it but i thought no point, could have saved lots of headache lol with your advice then.
Thanks pilot
sorry about the spelling mistakes, its late n cant be asked.

ZenithUK said:
After playing with my wife's HTC Magic, I would happily recommend the HTC Hero. Capacitive touchscreen, responsive OS, plenty of apps for download, "proper" satnav through CoPilot Live and decent location services.
If you're set on sticking with WinMo then the Toshiba TG01 isn't bad at all. Yes it is quite large compared to some handsets, but the raw speed is noticeable in general app use and the screensize would make satnav a joy.
Another one to consider is the Samsung Omnia B7610 (Louvre). Think of it as a Samsung version of the Touch Pro 2.
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Thanks Zenith, im gonna check both out.
Do you have any further info on the TG01 as to your use of it.
It did get slated by the above review site but im hoping fiormware will improve it.
Thanks

Any more rresponses of advice guys, more ppl's advice needed. I have until this Tuesday or latest Wednesday to get an idea of the handset.
I sent the BB 890 Curve back to orange and i hope they dont come out with anything dodgy about it.
Thank you all thus far.

MazzaUK said:
Thnaks for the welcome and info.
Any reason for the touch pro over the TG01? ALthough i was put off by the review of the TG01.
Also i dont think they will let me have the touch pro as its on the orange business section.
What is the difference between toun n the pro version? Just software?
Thanks again
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Main reason are 2:
1. It has hardware keyboard, for me is a must
2. Is HTC build so it will have better support on this site

HD2 vs Nexus One - I need to know

Hey all, I am thinking of getting either the HD2 or a nexus one subsidized, since thats all I can afford. I will decide on the 30th, but I am stuck on which device to get.
HD2- awesome, big screen slick and clean, WM (Yes I like WM )
Price - 100 at amazon
Nexus One - Froyo, small slick and nice in the hands. Android
Price - 180 at Google.
Which one should I get? Would either of these require a credit check with online purchase?

100 on amazon??
100 what? Pounds, Euros?, Dollars?
I imagine with a USA plan...
Place the link!!!
Go for Leo!
I am also a WM lover so no Android for me at least in 2 years...

Its out of stock, but I will provide links when its up, I still have till the 30th, or the 1st. So that's plenty of time. It is $130 on wirefly. These are both T-Mobile USA versions.
The only reason I am second guessing the Leo is because of the splurge of major developer support for the Nexus One. Lots of things are going to it while WM is left in the cold dark. I know I would rather have WM but that's still stuck in my mind.

I see mate, I´ll stick with WM
let us know the links
Thanks,

hd2 is wayyyy funner
i know i don't have one but i've used one

What do you guys think? Shoot. . . .I have to do a credit check, and use my ssn to get either phone.
All I have to do now is wait till the 30th then I'm gonna get it the first so the bill always comes the first.
I think I am going to go with the HD2, is amazon a good 3rd party mobile phone retailer? Meaning do they screw you contractual wise?

I think amazon is pretty reputable. I just got my HD2 YESTERDAY. Awesome device, the screen isn't as big as you think it might be though. It's really very pocketable. No complaints, at all. Make sure the first thing you install is cookies home tab mod though.

Hardware wise, I would prefer the HTC HD2. But, I personally prefer Android over Winmo.
Sent from my HTC Desire

Get with the program...go with the Nexus Android 2.2!

Soo hard to choose!

It´s your call mate
You had some comments from those who are in favor of Android and from those we prefer WM.
Anyway both devices will make you happy

I think I am gonna go with the HD2. Since its cheaper, but idk how I am going to do that credit check thing.

For me it came down to ugly phone vs. Windows Mobile.
Fortunately I like Windows Mobile.

while looking for a gift for my wife, I played with the nexus one, I bought the HD2. Live wallpaper is cool but the HD2 is so much better in terms of being able to customize it and what was a plus for us was that we were already familiar with the user interface.

Does amazon require a deposit, when you do the credit check? What is the maximum amount you will have to pay?

If u use 3g make sure to get the telstra version.

I have mentioned this before. T-Mobile USA version. . . .

yea for me too i like wmo but also like android, iven playing whit a moto dext whit android 1.6 and i like it so far,,,

drgopoos said:
If u use 3g make sure to get the telstra version.
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and as far as im aware, thats version goes for a lot more (and can really only find it on ebay)

Thoughts on the HTC Fuze?

Hi, new to HTC phones, been an apple fanboy, but now I'm trying out different phones. I've been eyeing this one, HTC Fuze of late, cause mainly, I don't have a data plan and don't plan on too either. I want to know what owners think about this phone, and I can decide from there.
I mean many youtube comments of reviews over this phone been on both sides, and I mean the phone has been discontinued and people say from all the bugs and problems.
Sway me people on the XDA forums! Are you happy with the choice of this phone and recommend it? Or pull me out of its death trap.
Please comment cause it would really help. Thank you.

Fuze is a pretty good cell phone.It's vga lcd is impressing!!!

I use mine daily for work & leisure with a TAEL ROM, works fine for me I like it.
If you can live without a keyboard it may be worth looking at the Diamond 2.
These devices are good but you do need to more technically capable to get the most from them.
Will be sticking to mine for a while as minimal button & no d-pad devices are ****e in the real world, I have yet to see anyone who can type as fast & error free on a touch keyboard.

I've had my fuze since it came out and i love it. I usually run the latest energy rom on mine though and I didn't like the phone near as much without it. So my advice is if you have a little computer know-how and are willing to read the forums the hardware is just fine and everything is here to make the fuze exactly what you want it to be, well aside from the 1Ghz speed and wvga res of the new gen of phones I'd say go for it
Oh and I second the look at the diamond 2 if you don't need hardware keys cause it has a better blue tooth stack, but no keyboard means I won't buy personally

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pwntatochips said:
Hi, new to HTC phones, been an apple fanboy, but now I'm trying out different phones. I've been eyeing this one, HTC Fuze of late, cause mainly, I don't have a data plan and don't plan on too either. I want to know what owners think about this phone, and I can decide from there.
I mean many youtube comments of reviews over this phone been on both sides, and I mean the phone has been discontinued and people say from all the bugs and problems.
Sway me people on the XDA forums! Are you happy with the choice of this phone and recommend it? Or pull me out of its death trap.
Please comment cause it would really help. Thank you.
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for around 100 bucks its a really solid phone assuming you only need english load up the latest http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751 energy rom(id suggust cookie 23xxx builds) and all those problems disappear (except camera, still as in reviews)
once you put the new roms on it you would think it was released in late 2009

So does any one know what are the best roms and changes?

it all depends on which phone did you previously used...if you have used low level phone..then definately you will like this......i love this phone.....especially when using energy roms.....as previously i had htc opal.....

I had the HTC Fuze and the problem with these phone with a keyboard is that it will eventually break over time. The phone was also thick and heavy. Oh yeah, the D-pad was practically unusable. I dont know if the Touch Pro shares the same problem as the Fuze. Anyways the main thing that got me to sell the phone was the keyboard breaking.

the board will break????

[Q] Your opinions wanted

Hi all .
Let me just start by saying that i would love to hear your opinions but if you offer them please also put why you think, feel or know that opinion is right or wrong.
So i am very soon to quit smoking and i'm going to put all of my hard earned and non smoked away cash into a new phone. I will be heading for an HTC as i love my diamond 2 the only thing letting it down is the speed to be honest . Now when i do get a phone i will certainly be going into a shop to test out the phones before i buy as i believe you really have to have a play first but considering money will have no constraint on which phone i actually get which phone would you go for and why?
I'll be honest and say i do love speed on a mobile device which points me to the desire or desire HD (yes i know they are android) but i have read in this forum that some pure and simply can't find a decent satnav app which really stops me dead as i use garmin on the diamond quite a lot. This in turn leads me to the hd2(leo) or hd7 as they are both winmo devices and will run garmin xt. with speed in mind that leads me to the hd7 but to be honest i can't be alone in thinking the ui on win7 devices looks really plain and boring to me - i like seing the weather and stuff on my main screen - the other choice is the leo which i understand will not be as good a screen (although good in its own right) and have less functions as an earlier model should.
now each has their own plus and minus points but please share with me your experiences and any info you would like to impart as i would love to hear it.
Thanks for your time

There are plenty of good sat-nav options on Android! Have you looked?
Aside from the usual pay ones like Co-Pilot there's the option of using the free Google Navigation. It's what i use and it works better than many pay ones i've used previously.

HTC Desire Z or HD very good options

yes it s right and in google you can find some good ones

Thanks for the replies don't get me wrong i haven't discounted any of the HTC phones yet and haven't looked for nav software yet just going off what i had read in the forum for some people keeping wm on their phone just to use the satnav software on it.
In terms of speed the android models do appear to run faster?
anyone have any preference with hd2 and hd7 if there is a speed difference sure the hd7 is a lovely option like i said it's only really the ui that puts me off as i really do think it looks terrible for a home screen?