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what is Kaiser rom? is it Kaiser Operating System? what benefit will i receive if i change or upgrade my original AT&T kaiser Rom. thank you. once again. please don't be offended, i am a newbie, i have already tried find threads for explaining this basic thing, but i unable to find it, please some expert take 1 minute or so explain to me, thanky you
sepig said:
what is Kaiser rom? is it Kaiser Operating System? what benefit will i receive if i change or upgrade my original AT&T kaiser Rom. thank you. once again. please don't be offended, i am a newbie, i have already tried find threads for explaining this basic thing, but i unable to find it, please some expert take 1 minute or so explain to me, thanky you
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i just read some threads , someone said that HTC rom is better than my ATT rom, where can i download this HTC Rom? go to HTC website, they offer on it's official website ? how to upload HTC to my ATT kaiser phone ? thank you.
sepig said:
i just read some threads , someone said that HTC rom is better than my ATT rom, where can i download this HTC Rom? go to HTC website, they offer on it's official website ? how to upload HTC to my ATT kaiser phone ? thank you.
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Read this first.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
And then read the site for a month or so. "What is ROM"? Really???????
sepig said:
i just read some threads , someone said that HTC rom is better than my ATT rom, where can i download this HTC Rom? go to HTC website, they offer on it's official website ? how to upload HTC to my ATT kaiser phone ? thank you.
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Seems to me like you're speed reading the WIKI in the same way people read a cheap book..... don't start at the beginning, read every other chapter then (and I'm waiting for this one) complain that the book was crap because you missed something.
20 minutes after your first post asking what a rom is you're suddenly 'expert' enough to discern that the HTC ROM is better than your ATT one. Well yes - you're probably right but how long will it be before you discover that your radio might not work after your upgrade (another 5 minutes) or that you can screw up without hardSPL (sorry missed that one 'cos it was in chapter 2 and I only read odd numbered chapters on Tuesdays).
Go away and come back when you've learned how to read.
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Seems to me like you're speed reading the WIKI in the same way people read a cheap book..... don't start at the beginning, read every other chapter then (and I'm waiting for this one) complain that the book was crap because you missed something.
20 minutes after your first post asking what a rom is you're suddenly 'expert' enough to discern that the HTC ROM is better than your ATT one. Well yes - you're probably right but how long will it be before you discover that your radio might not work after your upgrade (another 5 minutes) or that you can screw up without hardSPL (sorry missed that one 'cos it was in chapter 2 and I only read odd numbered chapters on Tuesdays).
Go away and come back when you've learned how to read.
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LOL! Very true though.
Sepig. People are going to bash you if you don't spend a lot of time reading the wiki and forums before you post questions because you can seriously screw up your device if you don't. From your post, it will be a while before you can upgrade your phone.
Just go here and install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Once you've install that CORRECTLY, go here for the official kaiser rom:
http://www.zshare.net/download/45579378780722/
That only took me 2 minutes to do. Wiki is your friend. Remember that!
ericc191 said:
Just go here and install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Once you've install that CORRECTLY, go here for the official kaiser rom:
http://www.zshare.net/download/45579378780722/
That only took me 2 minutes to do. Wiki is your friend. Remember that!
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Thats very positive attitude, instead of bashing ppl like bunch of 7th graders you actually made an effort to provide exactly what the newbie was looking for... VERY NICE, I LIKEE
I totally understand that this is a very basic question but instead of loading your guns you should just point the person in the right direction like ericc191 here. Just think of yourself when you got your 1st pda phone ever...
Thats just my 2 cents..
cheers
farhanali_ said:
Thats very positive attitude, instead of bashing ppl like bunch of 7th graders you actually made an effort to provide exactly what the newbie was looking for... VERY NICE, I LIKEE
I totally understand that this is a very basic question but instead of loading your guns you should just point the person in the right direction like ericc191 here. Just think of yourself when you got your 1st pda phone ever...
Thats just my 2 cents..
cheers
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yes, true... as newbie we just don't know where to start... BUT don't just read for few lines... then open a new thread to ask question... after few minutes more, find more answer and maybe more question... open another new thread...
allright, everybody is a newbie... but being a smart noobie and {whatever} noobie is different thing... try being smart...
farhanali_ said:
Thats very positive attitude, instead of bashing ppl like bunch of 7th graders you actually made an effort to provide exactly what the newbie was looking for... VERY NICE, I LIKEE
I totally understand that this is a very basic question but instead of loading your guns you should just point the person in the right direction like ericc191 here. Just think of yourself when you got your 1st pda phone ever...
Thats just my 2 cents..
cheers
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Have you considered that I might actually be a 7th grader???
Anyway, a bit harsh maybe - but if people fall over backwards to help others who are too lazy or impatient to help themselves then we'll be as inundated with useless posts as the Hermes forums.
And fyi, I don't normally flame noobs if they've done a bit or real work themselves - instead I normally try to help.
Also fyi, I was mildly flamed as a noob - ONCE only. I went away with my tail between my legs and learned to read - once I could read I learned to write.
In a bizarre way, by flaming noobs you do help - 1. because you bump their post. 2. someone always comes along to help. 3. To get the help they have to read through the scorn at their (sometimes) dumb question or attitude so maybe they research better next time.
Besides the above I'd had a beer and a ****ty day
ach2 said:
Have you considered that I might actually be a 7th grader???
Anyway, a bit harsh maybe - but if people fall over backwards to help others who are too lazy or impatient to help themselves then we'll be as inundated with useless posts as the Hermes forums.
And fyi, I don't normally flame noobs if they've done a bit or real work themselves - instead I normally try to help.
Also fyi, I was mildly flamed as a noob - ONCE only. I went away with my tail between my legs and learned to read - once I could read I learned to write.
In a bizarre way, by flaming noobs you do help - 1. because you bump their post. 2. someone always comes along to help. 3. To get the help they have to read through the scorn at their (sometimes) dumb question or attitude so maybe they research better next time.
Besides the above I'd had a beer and a ****ty day
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And the hard work from these cookers is free anyway (donations that is) so just do your home work first before posting. Is that too much to ask - an intelligent question?
shawndh said:
And the hard work from these cookers is free anyway (donations that is) so just do your home work first before posting. Is that too much to ask - an intelligent question?
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Flaming is a bit pointless if done to someone who, as was obviously the case here, comes with a complete blank and probably doesn't even know what a wiki is and what/where to look first.
On the other hand, it's a perfect opportunity to throw one's wisecracks at the noob and entertain the forum. A bit too easy though, don't you think?
There is a difference between helping or spoiling
tugas2khas said:
yes, true... as newbie we just don't know where to start... BUT don't just read for few lines... then open a new thread to ask question... after few minutes more, find more answer and maybe more question... open another new thread...
allright, everybody is a newbie... but being a smart noobie and {whatever} noobie is different thing... try being smart...
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Totally agree! This forum is not started just a few days ago. There are plenty of info. to solve most problems. Encourage people being lazy is actually not good for them. No need to scold them but just point them to the right place to read. If they don't. Just ignore them. I've been ignored before, but now I am able to cook my own Kaiser ROM.
Spoiling people is not helping.
In fact I would propose there is a black out period like 24hrs to 48hrs that a newbie cannot start any new thread. They may post to ask question but not starting new thread as soon as they register the forum.
Sad but true.
It seems that people are not into reading these days. Such a shame, cause reading makes you intelligent ! *ping*
No but seriously, read the forum starting with the Wiki. After that please remind yourself that you are NOT an IT-geek which makes the whole process probably even more dangerous. After the coscideration that your computerskills utterly -suck- , click cross in the right-upper-corner and have a nice day.
with love!
I see this as a website to go to to find answers.
Similarly to how I would go to Dell.com (or whatever) if I wanted to find a PC to buy to play my latest game I bought.
I don't go reading through the technical manual on how a CPU or GPU works so that I know which one to buy. I look to the people who already have the knowledge to answer the questions I have.
Most of the regular posters on here (I'm guessing) already know a lot about flashing PDAs etc... especially the first guy who flamed the OP. If you don't want to share your knowledge then don't take part in the forum. Yes, there are people who are trying to find an easy way to learn everything that you know and I agree that they should do their research etc... but this guy was abviously wanting a few pointers and got blasted for it. Take it as a compliment that he feels confident in this forum to be able to prvide him with the bit of knowledge he requires to do a flash and then be done. He has never done one before and will never do one again so why does he have to spend weeks reading material that potentially could give him answers that you could write in a line or so?
Please, don't flame the noobs.
I find that more often than not they don't come back.
Look how many times he has replied to this thread since the first guy flamed him... none.
No ill feelings to the original poster, as we were all there one day,
but to see it as a thread headline made me laugh!!! Actually made my day!
No worries, ROM Flashing is easy as hell!!
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I see this as a website to go to to find answers.
Similarly to how I would go to Dell.com (or whatever) if I wanted to find a PC to buy to play my latest game I bought.
I don't go reading through the technical manual on how a CPU or GPU works so that I know which one to buy. I look to the people who already have the knowledge to answer the questions I have.
Most of the regular posters on here (I'm guessing) already know a lot about flashing PDAs etc... especially the first guy who flamed the OP. If you don't want to share your knowledge then don't take part in the forum. Yes, there are people who are trying to find an easy way to learn everything that you know and I agree that they should do their research etc... but this guy was abviously wanting a few pointers and got blasted for it. Take it as a compliment that he feels confident in this forum to be able to prvide him with the bit of knowledge he requires to do a flash and then be done. He has never done one before and will never do one again so why does he have to spend weeks reading material that potentially could give him answers that you could write in a line or so?
Please, don't flame the noobs.
I find that more often than not they don't come back.
Look how many times he has replied to this thread since the first guy flamed him... none.
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Nobody get paid in this forum. You pay Dell for their machine so you may and should entitle some service. If you get some free service AND some free spanking in this forum, that is life, no flesh does not come with blood. Even experienced one may get spanked once a while by asking non-sense question. No need to be too thin-skin.
You may also be the lucky ones who has plenty of money and being pampered and like the noobs who like to ask million dollar question like "Which is the best ROM in this forum?" or "How do I flash my ROM step_by_step with guaranteed no risk?" or "Where do I get free SIM unlock service?" and expect an answer right away.
Many people paid to have their machine unlocked. Getting knowledgeable advice from someone is a service and entitled to get compensation for. Talk to a lawyer for advice, you will fully appreciate all the good folks in this forum and they are the one needed to be pampered and not the noobs.
One will learn and learn by reading this forum. It is more like drugs to me now.
He hasn't replied, that is good, that means he is doing reading and reading and reading..... If he is not, why he want to risk his $600 machine and ended up blaming everyone in this forum for not helping him or prevent him from doing that.
I don't think he was flamed by the #2 or #3 or # .... He is being educated! He is benefiting by this experience! The machine that's saved maybe his!
Please note there is a note in this forum which says:
Reading this Forum (Wiki) may be hazardous to your health!
Hey, I think it may also be hazardous to your family life, your love life, and/or your current job! Not just your machine!
Lets get a bit real here...
The name of this site is XDA-Developers. There is a bit of a clue in the title as to a certain amount of pre-knowledge. This guy asked what a ROM is - he could have got his answer from dictionary.com but instead decided to go to a group of people who are (or were) efectively researching on the forefront of the XDA pda's.
Most noobs (me included) have a lot of experience of computers but at first they don't have any idea of how to translate this into WM5 or WM6. But they learn quick because they already have the pre-knowledge to enter a developers site. This question was nothing like that and there is a greater than 90% chance that we'll be fending off the 'what is the best rom', 'how do I insert the stylus', 'how do you spell brick' type of questions unless he is discouraged from proceeding without some serious reading.
I know there are nice and nasty ways to tell someone what to do, but my experience of these forums is that people who don't read will not read the 'help granny cross the road' style of advice - but they do tend to get the point when flamed a bit (and it could have been worse).
Anyway, I hope he's gone away - keeps reading and then comes back a bit better prepared. And lets face it - anyone can flash a Rom, but not everyone can recover from a bad flash - and bad flashes is what we want to prevent at any cost.
farhanali_ said:
Thats very positive attitude, instead of bashing ppl like bunch of 7th graders you actually made an effort to provide exactly what the newbie was looking for... VERY NICE, I LIKEE
I totally understand that this is a very basic question but instead of loading your guns you should just point the person in the right direction like ericc191 here. Just think of yourself when you got your 1st pda phone ever...
Thats just my 2 cents..
cheers
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Actually, I bricked my first PDA phone on the second day... That's when I found this forum However I managed to unbrick it. Somehow. Can't remember the how.
hi,guys,
i would like to have a kaiser wm6.1 rom,
which rom u recommand?
I recommend you read the sticky at the top of this forum. Then do a search on WM 6.1 roms, there are lots. Then when you understand the process you then flash away. See the links in my sig...they will help get you started as well.
Each person likes different things in ROMS, so it is very subjective. You should have done some research before posting...
Good luck.
ooo.....this thread could get interesting
*grabs popcorn, waits for the jarek91 patented razing technique*
andrewsitu said:
hi,guys,
i would like to have a kaiser wm6.1 rom,
which rom u recommand?
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I used to love this forum. I now have the hardest time just peeking in.
I have read the multi page thread about what to do about the redundant threads and none of the suggestions have been implemented (except the heavy hammer by Kyphur). alas, with the fact that our phones are now so common, we have more people than ever trying to flash. I miss the days when the XDA was one of only a few devices that people used and you cuold only find 50-60 users online at any given time.
Andrewsitu, you are one of countless junior members who want to start flashing but can't take a few moments to look around. In some ways I can't blame you, since there are SOOO many threads, many pointless and redundant, it can be daunting. But it is a chicken and the egg dilema.
Maybe we need a senior member forum only so that we can actually be productive. This is nuts. I really feel like checking out . . .
andrewsitu said:
hi,guys,
i would like to have a kaiser wm6.1 rom,
which rom u recommand?
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I recommend you return to the 2nd grade where they teach you how to read and comprehend.
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Maybe we need a senior member forum only so that we can actually be productive. This is nuts. I really feel like checking out . . .
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I feel exactly the same way.
But what would I do if I didn't have the government and everybody else making decisions for me? Oh my god where am I, what's my name, who are you guys, and where are my pants? Can somebody spare a Xanax, I think I'm having a nervous breakdown.
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I feel exactly the same way.
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Ditto here. It did help us alot during the Beta testing.
I don't think you could just limit it to Senior Member status though as some people could just post useless info to get their post count up in order to make SM status.
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ooo.....this thread could get interesting
*grabs popcorn, waits for the jarek91 patented razing technique*
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I read these threads strictly for the entertainment value.
-McMex
crispyj said:
Ditto here. It did help us alot during the Beta testing.
I don't think you could just limit it to Senior Member status though as some people could just post useless info to get their post count up in order to make SM status.
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Easily handled if the title was bestowed, rather than just automatic. mods could review and either grant or put them in pending status until useful posts actually accounted for the needed 100. Puts more work on the the mods in some ways, but lessens it in others (fewer closed threads). I'd also have any new thread from anyone with less than 50 posts approved for non-redundancy by the mods.
I just really miss this place and I just seem to get more and more frustrated everytime I log in. And in some ways I can't blame the NooBs, because if aI saw all these threads I'd be spinning and wanting to just take the easy way out. It would be nice to have a senior member lounge or something . . .
noob
as someone who has read just about every post on here for kaiser I can say it is very daunting. but seriously he could at least have read the wiki...maybe we need a new main thread called..im a newb with a stupid question and im too lazy to read! I really appreciate all the help I've gotten here and I even cook my own roms now...read..read..read!!!
andrewsitu said:
hi,guys,
i would like to have a kaiser wm6.1 rom,
which rom u recommand?
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Alright boys and girls, strap in cause here we go...
<bad english>yo...my little pwnie...wtf?!?!!?!111oneoneone</bad english>
Let me see if I can help you, Charburger. It's spelled "you". It's not "u" or "yew" or "eu". And WTF is "recommand"? To command again? Okay...I recommand you to
<Samuel Jackson mode>READ THE MF'ING STICKY, WIKI AND THEN WATCH THE MF'IN LINK IN MY MF'IN SIG IN THE MF'IN QUOTE FROM ALEX. </Samuel Jackson mode>
Once you've done that, you need to post in the right forum. Since we don't have a forum called "I've recently had my brain smashed out with a slice of lemon wrapped around a large gold brick...so please hold my hand and answer the same questions over and over and please change my diaper while you're at it" you'll just have to use the Kaiser forum. That's "Kaiser", not "Kaiser upgrading etc". Let me know if I'm going too fast for you. I don't want to have to start over...that would irritate me and I don't think any of us want that. The upgrading forum is what chefs and packagers use to work on, release, and fix ROMs and cabs and such. Experienced members also use it to provide feedback to these same guys (and girls). Think you got all that? I hope so. Because if I have to address this with you again, I'm gonna get mean.
Now, to actually address your question (because I'm in a good mood today...no...really):
Are you serious?? Do you actually expect to get a usable answer from a question like this? Can you even fathom how many different answers you'll get and how many different reasons justifying those answers?? No, you can't count that high. It's more than fingers and toes. What you are asking for is an opinion so you don't have to think. Well here's my opinion...
You can't have my opinion. It's mine. Go make your own.
andrewsitu said:
hi,guys,
i would like to have a kaiser wm6.1 rom,
which rom u recommand?
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Personally, I'd recommend looking through the "Kaiser Upgrading" forum for all ROM releases with "WM6.1" in the title. Then look at the list the Chef's provided of what's in the ROM and think "Do I use all those things?", then look again and think "Have I got installation cabs for the others I use that aren't there?". If the answer is "yes" to both, flash it as that's your perfect ROM. If the answer to either is "no", then note what was missing/extra and look at the next ROM. When you're done go to whichever ROM closely fitted your needs and flash it.
Oh, and for the love of (insert deity of your choice) install Hard-SPL first, then a WM6.1 Radio ROM after and don't expect your hand to be held by others in this forum until you've proven you're willing to learn the basics. Once you've proven you're willing to try, you'll be amazed how friendly and helpful everyone is.
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Because if I have to address this with you again, I'm gonna get mean.
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the scary thing is......he was actually being nice
jarek91 said:
Alright boys and girls, strap in cause here we go...
<bad english>yo...my little pwnie...wtf?!?!!?!111oneoneone</bad english>
Let me see if I can help you, Charburger. It's spelled "you". It's not "u" or "yew" or "eu". And WTF is "recommand"? To command again? Okay...I recommand you to
<Samuel Jackson mode>READ THE MF'ING STICKY, WIKI AND THEN WATCH THE MF'IN LINK IN MY MF'IN SIG IN THE MF'IN QUOTE FROM ALEX. </Samuel Jackson mode>
Once you've done that, you need to post in the right forum. Since we don't have a forum called "I've recently had my brain smashed out with a slice of lemon wrapped around a large gold brick...so please hold my hand and answer the same questions over and over and please change my diaper while you're at it" you'll just have to use the Kaiser forum. That's "Kaiser", not "Kaiser upgrading etc". Let me know if I'm going too fast for you. I don't want to have to start over...that would irritate me and I don't think any of us want that. The upgrading forum is what chefs and packagers use to work on, release, and fix ROMs and cabs and such. Experienced members also use it to provide feedback to these same guys (and girls). Think you got all that? I hope so. Because if I have to address this with you again, I'm gonna get mean.
Now, to actually address your question (because I'm in a good mood today...no...really):
Are you serious?? Do you actually expect to get a usable answer from a question like this? Can you even fathom how many different answers you'll get and how many different reasons justifying those answers?? No, you can't count that high. It's more than fingers and toes. What you are asking for is an opinion so you don't have to think. Well here's my opinion...
You can't have my opinion. It's mine. Go make your own.
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Hahaha, You sound like Dr. Cox in scrubs, or are you the writer ?
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Hahaha, You sound like Dr. Cox in scrubs, or are you the writer ?
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I'm just an angry single man in need of my dream woman...a 6' redheaded asian babe that can cook, is into anime and gaming that thinks I'm the sexiest thing alive. But I'm not picky or anything.
Seriously, I'm just a guy with a bit of creativity that likes to make people smile over things they wouldn't usually smile over. Oh...and I do like to vent on occasion.
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I'm just an angry single man in need of my dream woman...a 6' redheaded asian babe that can cook, is into anime and gaming that thinks I'm the sexiest thing alive. But I'm not picky or anything.
Seriously, I'm just a guy with a bit of creativity that likes to make people smile over things they wouldn't usually smile over. Oh...and I do like to vent on occasion.
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Yea, I would love a ginormous sensitive(you know what I mean XD) asian too lol.
Seriously you do sound like Dr. Cox from scrubs, like exactly something he would say to get them motivated, all you hvae to say is newbie and your set .
It's not that hard to give your input. Man, you guys make it seem like suicide. Just answer his question with a couple of words and bam your done. It gets the job done and the OP is satisfied. At the OP, i like Dutty's newest 6.1. I recommend you give it a try.
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Easily handled if the title was bestowed, rather than just automatic. mods could review and either grant or put them in pending status until useful posts actually accounted for the needed 100........
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Not a bad idea - it's been floating around since the Hermes days and probably earlier. BUT... would you like to sift through the 593872 (and rising) members to see which of us seniors actually qualify as useful.
In my 440+ posts some have been helpful, some fun and some flaming but NONE qualify me as a developer (the main reason for this forum). Would I be excluded?
The only real way to sort this out is to let the guys who actually run the site decide what they want, make new rules if necessary and then we live with it.
jarek91 said:
Alright boys and girls, strap in cause here we go...
<bad english>yo...my little pwnie...wtf?!?!!?!111oneoneone</bad english>
Let me see if I can help you, Charburger. It's spelled "you". It's not "u" or "yew" or "eu". And WTF is "recommand"? To command again? Okay...I recommand you to
<Samuel Jackson mode>READ THE MF'ING STICKY, WIKI AND THEN WATCH THE MF'IN LINK IN MY MF'IN SIG IN THE MF'IN QUOTE FROM ALEX. </Samuel Jackson mode>
Once you've done that, you need to post in the right forum. Since we don't have a forum called "I've recently had my brain smashed out with a slice of lemon wrapped around a large gold brick...so please hold my hand and answer the same questions over and over and please change my diaper while you're at it" you'll just have to use the Kaiser forum. That's "Kaiser", not "Kaiser upgrading etc". Let me know if I'm going too fast for you. I don't want to have to start over...that would irritate me and I don't think any of us want that. The upgrading forum is what chefs and packagers use to work on, release, and fix ROMs and cabs and such. Experienced members also use it to provide feedback to these same guys (and girls). Think you got all that? I hope so. Because if I have to address this with you again, I'm gonna get mean.
Now, to actually address your question (because I'm in a good mood today...no...really):
Are you serious?? Do you actually expect to get a usable answer from a question like this? Can you even fathom how many different answers you'll get and how many different reasons justifying those answers?? No, you can't count that high. It's more than fingers and toes. What you are asking for is an opinion so you don't have to think. Well here's my opinion...
You can't have my opinion. It's mine. Go make your own.
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When I first saw this thread, I was wondering if u show up yourself here.
Ive read through the posts and there is some amazing stuff out there, and you guys have got to be commended. Im really a simple person so I want to find a simple answer/solution. I have a brand new att 8925 tilt. I just want the touch flo cube functionality. I dont need any other software. I just want it to respond like it were an HTC touch. Whats the best way to go about doing this and the best rom out there for it? Thanx for any help and keep up the good work, when i get some extra money donations will definately be going around!
KRUPTD316 said:
Ive read through the posts and there is some amazing stuff out there, and you guys have got to be commended. Im really a simple person so I want to find a simple answer/solution. I have a brand new att 8925 tilt. I just want the touch flo cube functionality. I dont need any other software. I just want it to respond like it were an HTC touch. Whats the best way to go about doing this and the best rom out there for it? Thanx for any help and keep up the good work, when i get some extra money donations will definately be going around!
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Did you read the Wiki? There some really great information out there. But you didn't, did you?
I know this because if you had read the Wiki like the Sticky mentions...oh wait...did you read the Sticky? Probably not. Let's just move right along, shall we? If you had read the Sticky, you would have heard about the Wiki and there you would have seen all sorts of links to that Cube page. You'd also know that if all you want is the cube, you don't have to change ROMs and thus possibly void your warranty. You'd also know that the proper forum for discussion about what software to use for what purpose belongs in the Kaiser forum, not the Kaiser Upgrading Etc forum. And you'd know that right now tell is that dutty has the ROM with the fastest responding cube. We even would have thrown in wonderful information about all the Frequently Asked Questions related to the Kaiser and related topics...yes...even dutty's ROMs. But all of this is in the hypothetical world where you read this stuff, right? That world where you didn't post this question that's covered in countless threads, forums, and wiki pages...
(I'd be more snarky but I'm hungry and I've had a rough day at work...now get back to your regularly scheduled programming peeps)
hi there, welcome to the forum.
here's the link to the wiki on the cube
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Cube
its linked in the kaiser wiki, as well as the sticky right on top of the page. in future please look in the sticky/wiki first and/or search before creating a new post.
jarek91 said:
Did you read the Wiki? You'd also know that if all you want is the cube, you don't have to change ROMs and thus possibly void your warranty.
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i thank you for your enlightenment. I did read the forums and the wikis and the stickys i just didnt see a clear answer to "just the cube" I apologize for the wrong section im not much of a forum person, but what do you suggest for the "cube" ? I dont want to mess up my phone or void my warranty.
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i thank you for your enlightenment. I did read the forums and the wikis and the stickys i just didnt see a clear answer to "just the cube" I apologize for the wrong section im not much of a forum person, but what do you suggest for the "cube" ? I dont want to mess up my phone or void my warranty.
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dude, both me and jarek gave you the exact same link.....did you even bother to look at it??? man, i thought i could be nice and all and give good welcome to this forum........jarek, he's all yours
KRUPTD316 said:
i thank you for your enlightenment. I did read the forums and the wikis and the stickys i just didnt see a clear answer to "just the cube" I apologize for the wrong section im not much of a forum person, but what do you suggest for the "cube" ? I dont want to mess up my phone or void my warranty.
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I personally have been happily flashing warranty voiding ROMs on my Tilt that have dutty's cube. I'm also one of those weirdos that just doesn't like the cube. Best thing I can suggest is read the two threads for the two different cubes linked on that wiki page and see what people are saying about them and compare it to what you want.
XtreMe_G said:
dude, both me and jarek gave you the exact same link.....did you even bother to look at it??? man, i thought i could be nice and all and give good welcome to this forum........jarek, he's all yours
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oh no...it's gonna be worse than that...the next n00b gets the wrath and I get to blame it on Krup. That way I get two for the price of one.
Oh screw it...
FLAME ON
I was far too nice, I see. I went through the trouble of taking 1.2 seconds opening another tab to get the URL of the EXACT Wiki page you needed so I could put the link in my reply. Why? Because I knew that you obviously did not bother to use the resource that so many of us here strive to maintain. It's an insult to the work we do here when people like you just drop on in and ask to be spoonfed. I suggest you read the Extreme Noobs post. I'm not gonna bother to link this time because you aren't gonna bother to use what is handed to you. Try looking for it. It's on the first page so you'll probably have a hard time seeing it. This isn't rocket surgery or brain science. It can be done by anyone with a little patience and the ability to comprehend those strange symbols on the screen we call "letters"...they go together to form "words" which convey "thoughts" and "ideas" and "knowledge". Am I going too fast for you with all these fancy terms? Doesn't matter...I don't care.
Yes, there's a lot of clutter in the forums. Yes, there's a lot of clutter in the individual threads. You know why? Shut up. I'm talking. It's because people like you annoy people like me by posting questions that have been gone over so many times that even "Barrens chat" now has more useful information in it. Do you know what Barrens Chat is? I thought I told you to close your pie hole. Go to Google...I'm assuming you know what that is. Try searching for Barrens Chat and see what I'm talking about. I'm actually being driven to the point that I want to play WoW again so I can hang out in the Barrens and listen to people discuss the characteristics of the love child of Chuck Norris and Michael Jackson. I'm beginning to think my time there would be far more stimulating than typing the same 8-10 answers over and over again until my laptop jumps up and smashes my balls with a Mack truck just to make me stop.
Have I hurt your feelings? Have I upset you or made you mad? I swear, if you don't stop talking I'm gonna have to punch you in the face with an active volcano. Now hurry up and answer me. On second thought, don't bother because I really don't care any more. You're just going to have to learn to be faster if you want to keep my interest in this conversation.
WOW!!!!!!!
Well, it seems clear this thread is not going anywhere useful. Links to the Cube info have been given.
Closing thread.
Mike
This started yesterday using dutty's newest hybrid rom on the radio it comes with, i believe its 1.64.14.06, yeah thats it. This radio and rom has worked fine for me with great 3g coverage and everything, rom just seemed a little slower than his apr 09 32mpp rom. I then changed the radio to the niki 1.58.11.07 since that one works the best for me. After flashing, the first phone call i made or recieved worked fine on my jawbone bluetooth. Any call after the first one, completely nothing. Phone shows im connected, seconds tick away on phone showing im connected, person on other end cant hear anything as well as me. Ive tried calling and receiving calls from numerous numbers and people with same problem. I also tried turning off bluetooth and trying the speakerphone or regular ear piece on phone and still same problem. If i soft reset the phone then its back to the start, the first call either made or recieved works fine even on blutooth headset, speaker phone, or ear speaker on front of phone, then every call either made or recieved after the first nothing! I then flashed back to the stock 1.64.14.06 radio with no more problems. I then got tired of the newest hybrid rom since its slower then the previous apr 09 32mpp rom and flashed back to the apr 09 32mpp rom with stock radio 1.64.14.06. After making many calls and recieving many calls since this last flash, the problem just started again now on the apr 09 32mpp rom with the stock 1.64.14.06 radio! The same exact symptoms as before! Everything else works fine like gps, texting, e-mail, I just cant use the main feature of the cell phone which is to TALK to someone! Anyone have any ideas? I was thinking about flashing back to the stock att rom then flashing back to the apr 09 32mpp rom to see if that helps. Like i said before, the apr 09 32mpp rom has worked for me perfect for over 2 weeks until the newest hybrid came out and even the hybrid worked fine for the first few days. No programs are running in the background, no damage done to the phone, never dropped it, phone battery over 75 percent, cant figure out whats wrong? Please, if anyone can help???
Im gonna try to flash back to the niki radio 1.58.11.07 since i used that radio the most on this apr 09 32mpp rom. Still can't figure out what would cause this to happen to my phone for no reason? I havent downloaded any new apps or anything. Just stopped working!
just a thought but shouldnt you have posted this in the relative rom thread instead of starting a new thread but if i were you and liked the radio i had id reflash the same one try it out for a while if it happens again then try a new radio
sd73ta said:
just a thought but shouldnt you have posted this in the relative rom thread instead of starting a new thread but if i were you and liked the radio i had id reflash the same one try it out for a while if it happens again then try a new radio
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Of course i would post this in dutty's rom thread but have you seen his thread? Grows over 1,000 posts a day. The same time im typing up my problem, 10 other problems already got posted and so on. Thats why i posted this as a new thread, not to take up space but to get my problem answered and some help. Yes i did flash back to the niki rom just now and made over 7 calls and recieved a few just phone on my phone but that doesn't mean this problem won't happen in a day or in an hour. Like i stated in the first post, the roms (newest hybrid and apr 09 rom) worked perfect the first few days or even weeks and then BOOM, this problem hits for ? reason. Just looking to see if anyone on here can figure out why this happened so if it does happen again in the future for me or anyone else on this forum they will know how to fix it. Like i said before, i havent damaged my phone, no new cabs or programs added, soft reset my phone and doesn't fix the problem, even flashing to a new rom altogether didnt fix the problem and flashing to a new radio only fixes the problem temporarly.
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deeznuts said:
Of course i would post this in dutty's rom thread but have you seen his thread? Grows over 1,000 posts a day. The same time im typing up my problem, 10 other problems already got posted and so on. Thats why i posted this as a new thread, not to take up space but to get my problem answered and some help. Yes i did flash back to the niki rom just now and made over 7 calls and recieved a few just phone on my phone but that doesn't mean this problem won't happen in a day or in an hour. Like i stated in the first post, the roms (newest hybrid and apr 09 rom) worked perfect the first few days or even weeks and then BOOM, this problem hits for ? reason. Just looking to see if anyone on here can figure out why this happened so if it does happen again in the future for me or anyone else on this forum they will know how to fix it. Like i said before, i havent damaged my phone, no new cabs or programs added, soft reset my phone and doesn't fix the problem, even flashing to a new rom altogether didnt fix the problem and flashing to a new radio only fixes the problem temporarly.
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Wow for your convenience and avoiding 1000 posts thread, you create a new one. What a good idea. I should do the same thing since I'm not English speaker and it's really difficult for me to read in English.
No wonder why you are senior member.
Thanks for the idea.
Hi,
I understand that this is a little bit confusing but, actually, with the same build there are "2" versions the one that is labeled with the 1.65.14.06 radio and the one labeled with 1.64.08.21.
So, Radio 1.65.14.06 & 1.65.17.10 are just compatable with roms labelled 1.65.14.06. this means if you flash another different radio, you'll get the bugs you described...
On the other side, all the other 6.1 radios should work with the second version, labeled with 1.64.08.21. once again, if you flash an att radio (1.65.14.06 or 1.65.17.10) you'll get the bugs you described...
NOTE: RADIO 1.65.17.10 IS NOT RECOMENDED - IT WILL UNABLE THE RE-FLASH PROCESS WITH ANY OTHER RADIO, UNLESS YOU'RE SECURITY UNLOCKED
cheers
Honestly, im more new to the thread and Id have to say.. The most annoying thing and the thing I dont quite understand is how many whiners there on on "posting new threads" as if posting is something sacred that only the best people should be able to do. Now I understand the defense "oh well people post more and more of the same questions.. blah blah" but who the heck is actually making you read these threads? Honestly, id call posting new threads troll bait, because its only the trolls that rush to whine about it. Ive personally never posted a thread, and I never would in this forum. To be realistic, I come on this site almost everyday and see the same crap. Its just loaded with peoples roms on the first page of the forums. Im just saying, give some of these guys a break. Im sure there will be trolls that come in and complain against my post... but oh well. Im sure others have noticed it too
Siyrah said:
Honestly, im more new to the thread and Id have to say.. The most annoying thing and the thing I dont quite understand is how many whiners there on on "posting new threads" as if posting is something sacred that only the best people should be able to do. Now I understand the defense "oh well people post more and more of the same questions.. blah blah" but who the heck is actually making you read these threads? Honestly, id call posting new threads troll bait, because its only the trolls that rush to whine about it. Ive personally never posted a thread, and I never would in this forum. To be realistic, I come on this site almost everyday and see the same crap. Its just loaded with peoples roms on the first page of the forums. Im just saying, give some of these guys a break. Im sure there will be trolls that come in and complain against my post... but oh well. Im sure others have noticed it too
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okay let me help u understand why senior members and moderators get ticked when people post new threads:
a) as the name of the site states it is targeted towards developers or people with ability to understand 2+2. developers put there personal time trying to create something better for us without any monetary gain.
b) posting new threads about the same issue pushes real issues down or completely buries them. xda gets close to 100000 hits a day .. imagine if all those people created new threads .. what would happen to threads w/ real issues??
c) it is easier to post and quiker to get a response under a rom thread that u r having problem with. i post under rom that i have issues with and always get an answer unless the problem is my own stupidity which i manage to fix.
d) its part of xda's tos to post under threads that r relevant to ur query.. don't like that? good bye.
e) people post new threads cuz they don't wana read. believe me i know .. but reading is the best thing so read the wiki it can answer all questions like this one.
f) people respond better when they see u r following rules ... if a cop pulled u over and u gav him **** u would probably get in more trouble compared to if u apologized for what u did wrong. same goes here post a new problem and everyone will try to help; post a question that has been answered 10 thousand times u r bound to piss people off.
and i don't think i need say more.
Always someone that has to post back on things subject to common sense which either A) makes that person feel smarter then they actually are or B) feel like without there knowledge, all would be lost. Without your details, I said that main outline of what someone is going to end up whining about, but then again... what made you put so much time and effort into reading my message? for that matter, you even came on this subject and replied to nothing the OP needed and instead, just trolled my message. Obviously you came in this thread to complain, whine, or whatever you call it, noticed my message, and felt my message was a better target.. so here goes. (oh, and I never asked why "senior members" or "moderators" get ticked. It was more people like you "members" lol)
A) Who are you to define peoples questions into interpretations like (2+2)? Maybe because they dont know what YOU know, that doesnt make them stupid. Its people like you who dont realize that people always have to be taught by someone, and im sure you learned all your stuff by reading through 1000s of pages of threads and not posting any yourself... just realize, no ones born with the knowledge.
B) As I said in my previous message, I see mostly ROMS on the first page everytime I come on the site. Not just that, if no one wants to respond to the thread, doesnt it just get lost from there? but usually its the trolls that keep new threads going isnt it? and once again, who are you to define whats a real issue? obvious when people post, they are having issues. For you to say they are worthless is for you to say that your issues are just more important.
C) Ok thats your preference, and your OPINION states that you will get an answer quicker when posting under a rom thread, but honestly... its a matter of personal experience. Theres no evidence that would show posting under an existing thread gets your questions answered quicker, as im sure some people might have done both but have had better experience with posting a new thread.
D) Obviously thats understandable. But to what degree? moderators would "decide" which threads are relevant to what query? Im sure even moderators understand that people are going to post because not everyone has hours to spend looking certain things up. While you can look at two different threads and in your opinion they could be the same, the variations of the two threads could show quite a difference in the solution thats needed for a problem... and just because someone doesnt like someone, is that really how it should be? goodbye?
E) Hah how do YOU know why people are posting? have you done a survey? and dont tell me its common sense. While sometimes it can be because of laziness of reading, it can also be the fact... someone couldnt find what they are looking for. wow imagine someone posting because of that. Maybe the wiki does answer the question, then again, maybe some people looked and didnt know how to interpret the answer to the question so needed to get more advice or opinions.
F) Using an example of a situation thats totally irrelevant to that actual discussion is quite useless IMO. Thats not true all the time.. maybe it means a cop would look around or search you to try to find more evidence to put you up... but id hardly interpret that into "more trouble" then just kissing the cops butt. You used an analogy of a subject thats basically "stand up for yourself and say what you mean, or dont" and that analogy goes both ways. Some situations help you by shutting up, while others dont.
I dont think I need to say more either. While im sure a detailed reply will probably attract more trolls... this was merely just a single reply based on "thesires" direct interpretations, opinions, and outlooks. While I myself believe in many cases new threads shouldnt be started and just post in existing threads, I still remember there are billions of people out there... and a little confusion or misinterpretation is understandable. Theres many situations and solutions ive seen or found..
1) The person who spends his time trolling the forum and finding these type of threads, then disrespectfully and aggressively insults the OP and complains.
2) The kind person who directs the OP to the right place.
3) The person who doesnt care and doesnt want to hear it so doesnt read the thread and watches how it quickly sinks to the bottom because it doesnt get many replies.
My solution is always if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say it at all. If you dont want this thread to stay at the top... dont respond to it.
One last thing, these are my opinions and are that only. They are not regarded by myself, or is it assumed that whats posted above reflects any views of others. It doesnt show anything factual, its just merely an opinion stated. So plz dont spend time arguing that
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It doesnt show anything factual, its just merely an opinion stated. So plz dont spend time arguing that
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I figured that since you spent so much time editing, checking grammar and punctuation that you might want to know that you forgot the period on the very last sentence.
lol the fact that I didnt edit any grammer at all would just be giving me a compliment. So thanks. I actually edited it to add in the line at the bottom, to tell people that it was opinion based, and not expressing any views of others. That way I wouldnt offend too many people. But geez was that post you made even neccessary? Ill leave the period off on this one too
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lol the fact that I didnt edit any grammer at all would just be giving me a compliment. So thanks. I actually edited it to add in the line at the bottom, to tell people that it was opinion based, and not expressing any views of others. That way I wouldnt offend too many people. But geez was that post you made even neccessary? Ill leave the period off on this one too
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About as necessary as this one. BTW, you misspelled grammar. Anyway, your welcome. Your previous post was quite intelligently written.
Calm down u too, this isnt why i created this thread. Ive been on this site for some time now and have flashed countless roms both on my 8525 and tilt and never had a weird problem like this. That is why i created this thread which i also dont do very often. I guess if it makes everyone happy i could copy and post my problem in the 2 rom threads and see if someone can answer it. Thought this would be easier yes for everyone but i guess not. Admin go ahead and delete this thread i started since it must be taking up too much valuable space on this forum and people are tired of seeing it instead of helping me, thank you.
shadowlabs9 said:
Hi,
I understand that this is a little bit confusing but, actually, with the same build there are "2" versions the one that is labeled with the 1.65.14.06 radio and the one labeled with 1.64.08.21.
So, Radio 1.65.14.06 & 1.65.17.10 are just compatable with roms labelled 1.65.14.06. this means if you flash another different radio, you'll get the bugs you described...
On the other side, all the other 6.1 radios should work with the second version, labeled with 1.64.08.21. once again, if you flash an att radio (1.65.14.06 or 1.65.17.10) you'll get the bugs you described...
NOTE: RADIO 1.65.17.10 IS NOT RECOMENDED - IT WILL UNABLE THE RE-FLASH PROCESS WITH ANY OTHER RADIO, UNLESS YOU'RE SECURITY UNLOCKED
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I totally understand what ur saying but my problem is even with the stock radio that comes with the rom, 1.65.14.06. I rom worked perfect for about a week with the original radio then this problem started so i changed radios and still didnt help.
I've had this issue too. Less so after disabling Voice command, but it happened again yesterday. The bad this is that you don't realize its gone mute until you try to dial out. Ringtones and all notifications are gone too.
I've had it happen with and without bluetooth and with multiple radios.
there are always recommended actions to take after flashing a rom. You must hard reset after flashing. Weird stuff does happen when you don't hard reset. This could be due to the rom, too acting really funny. You guys probably put it through scenarios where it gets unstable. Theres a good chance these problems are fixed in the newer roms.
I seriously wasnt even concentrated on spelling or "grammar", but I did find it pretty funny out of all the words ive typed, you nailed me on the "grammar" one. Admitantly ive been spelling it that way for a long time, so it made me laugh when I seen your post. Thanks (seriously)
Hey guys, I am having a problem. My ATT Tilt is stuck on bootloader and will not load. I have flashed my ROM for the 5th time now and every time I turn off my device, it gets stuck on bootloader. I have used the HTC provided EXE Rom loader in their site. What can I do, please help.
I suppose when you post your question here is because you did read the wiki and the sticky threads about "how to flash", etc.
I suppose if you read those threads, you used the correct combination in radio, SPL, and ROM
So, if you did all those things, now you must only flash another ROM compatible with your SPL and Radio.
If you did not, then read those sticky threads and then try to unbrick your device. Then, try to write here what SPL, radio and ROM, etc. numbers appear on the boot screen so that somebody will tell you about taking the device to the technical service. (One thing I learned: no device gets stop on bootloader if everything inside it is in the correct combination)
gor818 said:
What can I do, please help.
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If I were you, instead of starting a new clutter thread in ROM DEVELOPMENT. I might have used the search function and found this thread.
And if after trying everything in that thread, I would have then posted my question in the proper thread........but that is just me
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If I were you, instead of starting a new cutter thread in ROM DEVELOPMENT. I might have used the search function and found this thread.
And if after trying everything in that thread, I would have then posted my question in the proper thread........but that is just me
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How many ?'s like this do we need a day? Sticky @ the top of forum was placed there to be used, nearly 90% will be answered then the search in the corner of different variants to be used will more than definetly find you the place to be, may need a bit of persisitence but get there in there end and feel like you achieved something
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How many ?'s like this do we need a day? Sticky @ the top of forum was placed there to be used, nearly 90% will be answered then the search in the corner of different variants to be used will more than definetly find you the place to be, may need a bit of persisitence but get there in there end and feel like you achieved something
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Ah its never ending story, had been like this in wizard days, then hermes days, now kaiser days!
I think best policy is just to embrace it without getting too excited. Cuz this is not going to stop as long as humans are alive! LOL
ai6908 said:
Ah its never ending story, had been like this in wizard days, then hermes days, now kaiser days!
I think best policy is just to embrace it without getting too excited. Cuz this is not going to stop as long as humans are alive! LOL
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So Sad Yet So True.
Take it easy
Hey hey take it easy. I have read and tried everything HardSPL, MTTY, everything found in stickies. Still nothing at all. wont boot.
Please follow the instructions in this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423486
If they don't work, can you post the info requested on the wiki page in that thread and I'll take a look and see if there's anything else.
Dave