bad reception/signal - Touch Pro, Fuze General

Hi
I am a new owner of HTC touch pro from Vodafone and i noticed some strange thing: when I was in my room and put vodafone simcard in my "old" nokia n73 i have full 3g(UMTS) signal on it (full coverage), next when I put the same vodafone simcard to my new HTC touch pro it has only GPRS (not full signal!) in the same place when i don't work on it, but when i started to use the internet on it, the signal has changed for HSDPA ("3g+" symbol), very poor reception but HSDPA (i've tested on dslreport with result 218kbit/s), is this normal? is it kind of power saving in HTC?
best regards

Hi, you've posted this in the wrong sub forum, this is the accessories section.
You're more likely to get help if you post in the main Raphael forum.

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UK Three Network

Hey everybody, i have a Hermes incase that matters. Im thinking about changing network to Three but i cant find any UK settings for internet or planet 3. Are these about? or are there any cabs that can get that all working?
Thanks a million
Don't go with Three.
You will never experience HSDPA on your Hermes as it wasn't the phone they supplied you with.
I wondered for ages why my Internet connectivity was so poor, then I stuck a mates T-Mobile SIM card in my TyTn.....bingo - over 1Mb/s.
I struggle to get 1/10 of that.
When my contract expires....goodbye, 3.
HTH.
And...T-Mobile probably have the best data tarrifs in the UK.

xda Orbit 2, will it work on 3 UK Network (PAYG)

I am wanting to run one of these with a PAYG sim on 3UK Network, to benefit from the faster HSDPA broadband access via the phone and via a USB lead to a laptop (using the Orbit 2 as a modem). Is this likely to work OK? Anyone already doing this right now?
Also will the Orbit 2 work well with Skype, as my orbit 1 is poor and the audio breaks up (even when connected to 4mbit wifi connection). I hope the Orbit 2 has cured this problem.
I would appreciate comments on the above. Thanks a lot. Tony
I just came back from holiday in UK. My German Orbit2 used for roaming either O2 UK Network or TMobile and 3G worked fine on both networks. Is it that, what you were asking for?
About Skype I don't know anything, sorry.
Thanks for the reply, but no not exactly what I am looking for. I want to use the Orbit 2 on 3UK, which is another network (unless 3UK uses someone elses network). The 3UK Network is a new network provider in the UK.....
I basically want to know if the Orbit2 will work on 3UK with a PAYG sim (NOT ON A CONTRACT) for HSDPA internet access and to use as a normal phone.
I currently have an Orbit 1 on Orange PAYG, but want to use HSDPA (faster internet access with the Orbit 2), I also want to be able to use Skype as well using HSDPA.
Thanks anyway for the reply.
If you don't get help here, you should call the provider and ask.
Because I wanted to use my Orbit2 with a prepaid SIM of O2 UK with mobile internet. And they said, I can only use it for making calls and texts, not for internet. (They weren't able to provide internet settings for the device if not in a contract.) So I was able to use a prepaid SIM but only for calls and texts.
Anyway, good luck.
3 uk network
I think I understand what you're asking.
3 will not assist you because the Orbit 2 is not an 'approved' phone for 3's network.
However, there is a cab file that permits you to spoof 3's network that you are using a Nokia N95 which is an approved phone.
I know it works because we did this for a work colleague that was sick of his Nokia and went and bought a touch cruise and we installed the necessary file.
He's generally happy with the result but does report the occasional lag on 3's network.
If you want to know more and find a link to the file I suggest you read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2229186
Best of luck and let us know how you get on.
Lom
Thanks a lot!!!!
It looks like you have sorted my problems... I will be getting the Orbit 2 in a couple of days and I will let you know how I get on. Thanks once again Lom.
ps. Any idea what the URL is for planet3 on the mobile???
Regards Tony
planet 3
Tony,
I'm not a 3 customer, but the thread I suggested you read claims this is the address for planet 3:
http://mobile.three.co.uk/hb/co.uk/n95/hutchkey
Best wishes,
Lom

Tmobile UK - Touch Pro poor phone use

My new HTC Touch Pro appears to have far worse phone reception compared to my HTC TyTN II for the Tmobile UK network.
Touch Pro Radio: 1.02.25.19
TyTN II Radio: 1.27.12.11
I've set my phone band to GSM to save battery.
Ot has been tweaked in no other way yet.
a) At home, I nearly always got a usable signal on the TyTN II with some drop outs. With the Touch Pro - its the other way round - mostly searching with occasional usable signal.
b) Travvelling from Leeds to Harrogate. The TyTN II would mostly hold a good signal with only a few drop outs. The Touch Pro was "Searching" most of the way.
c) Central Leeds, both phones have good signal.
d) Sat at my desk in Harrogate. The TyTN II has a usable signal where the Touch Pro only occassionally has a usable signal.
I love the device, but am very dissappointed with the phone signal performance. So much so, I am considering returning the device. I hope there's an new Radio ROM very soon.
I would be interested to hear other TMobileUK users experiences.
Thanks
Mike
Soory, this has already been discussed in several topics:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417335
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417163
Does seem to be a common TmobileUK problem!
There do seem to be a lot of comments about poor signal strength.
Personally my signal is the same as ever, but I think I may pinch my wife's T-Mobile SIM sometime over the weekend, just out of curiosity... Her MDA Touch has terrible signal in our house, so I'll have to see if the Raphael is any better or worse.
I am also tempted to buy the touch pro, and am with t-mobile due to their unrivalled web'n'walk data packages. I don't want to wait till t-mobile get their act together with the vario IV (they might include a updated version of the radio which works better with their network).
Is there anyone who is getting good coverage on t-mobile with this phone and if so where are you located in th u.k?
I'm in the Middlesex area, not very far at all from Heathrow airport.
Signal strength at home for me is pretty good, it varies between 2 and 5 bars depending on where I am in the house but I nearly always have a H at the top rather than a G! (anyone else other than me think that the Touch Pro's G icon is ugly? lol)
When I'm out and about away from home I've noticed much weaker signals though, never lost the network completely yet mind you. Thankfully I'm on a "Solo" sim only contract with T-mobile and my 30 day contract is already passed so I can now change it. Other people's comments about the network on here have scared me, so I've already got a porting authorisation code from them (I even told the T-Mobile customer service person I spoke to about everyone's comments on this forum, he seemed quite surprised to say the least) and I will be moving to Vodafone in a couple of days!
Vodafone Sim only deals are very similar to T-Mobile's prices (even better at the £20 level thanks to a limited time offer from Vodafone that's currently running) and although mobile internet use with Vodafone is more expensive than T-Mobile on a daily basis, they both do the £7.50/month for unlimited internet so I'll definitely be adding that!
Also has anyone tried these signal boosting sticky pads to improve reception? (I don't have any experience with these so don't know whether these things have any merit or are just a con)
tbh I wouldnt worry about it at the moment, the stock shipped radio version in my Hermes (1.06.00.10, or something like) was crap for me but remember people we get radio updates quite often even now for older devices so lets see , when the vario IV ROM emerges, how good the updated radios are?
Its all part of the game.
Perhaps once the issues for flashing diamond radios have been sorted then we could see if a daimond radio might remedy the issues?
Just out of interest has anyone here got a Touch Pro and is using it on Orange UK?? Since they both operate on GSM1800 and UMTS2100 any problems with the device should really occur for them also?
O2-UK and Vodafone UK (GSM900) stats would also be helpfull?
mrvanx said:
tbh I wouldnt worry about it at the moment, the stock shipped radio version in my Hermes (1.06.00.10, or something like) was crap for me but remember people we get radio updates quite often even now for older devices so lets see , when the vario IV ROM emerges, how good the updated radios are?
Its all part of the game.
Perhaps once the issues for flashing diamond radios have been sorted then we could see if a daimond radio might remedy the issues?
Just out of interest has anyone here got a Touch Pro and is using it on Orange UK?? Since they both operate on GSM1800 and UMTS2100 any problems with the device should really occur for them also?
O2-UK and Vodafone UK (GSM900) stats would also be helpfull?
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I am not sure I understand the "game" appeal of a £500 purchase on which people seem to be experiencing poor reception on.
IBORGUK said:
I am not sure I understand the "game" appeal of a £500 purchase on which people seem to be experiencing poor reception on.
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No different to any other area of technology, the fact is that if you live on the cutting edge and get the newest of the new and the best of the best, there will be issues, and rough edges to iron out. At least with HTC phones 95% of the problems will be resolved in a few months with ROM/radio updates and the wonders pulled off by the chefs here.
For those wanting a safe stable and mature platform from day one with yesterday's-but-still-ok tech, there's the Kaiser or Hermes. Or just wait a few months before getting a Touch Pro.
Best of the best for a phone which has poorer reception on my network than the previous iteration (TYTN II) ? I don't think the logic in that statement stands up somehow.
i've got same issue with t-mobile sim and pro. same spot kaiser has full 3g reception pro none
So mine's gone back due to lousy reception on T-Mobile UK in my house (my Hermes and my other half's Kaiser have no such problem).
Gutted, 'cos compared to my current Vario II it was a Rolls Royce.
So what do I do now? Risk trying another or wait till a version with new radio is out?
finisterre said:
So mine's gone back due to lousy reception on T-Mobile UK in my house (my Hermes and my other half's Kaiser have no such problem).
Gutted, 'cos compared to my current Vario II it was a Rolls Royce.
So what do I do now? Risk trying another or wait till a version with new radio is out?
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I'd say go again when TMobile release theirs, at least then it's all their problem if you want to send it back (again!).
finisterre said:
So mine's gone back due to lousy reception on T-Mobile UK in my house (my Hermes and my other half's Kaiser have no such problem).
Gutted, 'cos compared to my current Vario II it was a Rolls Royce.
So what do I do now? Risk trying another or wait till a version with new radio is out?
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Or maybe wait for the SE Xperia X1. I'll skip the Touch Pro because of the reception issue. As the Diamond has the same problem since the beginning, I don't believe in a software fix for this problem.
Newbie question, sorry . I havent even fully worked out what the "radio" is! Is it the same as a new ROM?
My Touch Pro will arrive today or tomorrow. How likely is it that the signal performance of this phone will improve if a new Radio can be developed? I will have 10 days to return the phone if necessary, and change to another provider/contract, which is a shame as TMobile have arguably the best (data) contracts.
Stick or twist?
If you have this problem, make sure you report it to HTC like I did.
The more who do - the more chance of a fix.
Digger. said:
Newbie question, sorry . I havent even fully worked out what the "radio" is! Is it the same as a new ROM?
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A new ROM can contain various components. Official HTC or Carrier ROM's generally contain the OS (~100Mb), the Radio (~20Mb), the Splash Screens (~1Mb?), and the Bootloader (also small, but I can't remember how small). So they're fully loaded. Sometimes official Radio-Only updates are released, but from what I remember they're not that common.
Cooked ROMs around here are generally just the OS (and sometimes a compatible Radio if the OS actually relies on a specific Radio). The OS is all that you'd really notice much of a difference in, for day to day purposes, as it's the bit that contains "Windows Mobile".
It is possible to flash any one of the components seperately. For the purposes of solving signal issues, it should only be necessary to update the Radio component. If you do this, then all your settings, programs, etc would be untouched, 'cause it's just the bit of code that controls the "Phone" part of your device, rather than the "Windows Mobile" part.
If you get a Touch Pro now, and it's got bad T-Mobile 3G reception, you can either put up with 2G signals until a Radio update is released (officially or otherwise), or send it back. Personally, I'd do the former, as I can't see it taking more than a couple of weeks for the T-Mobile ROM to show it's face, and that'll have the T-Mobile optimised radio in it, which you'll be able to upgrade to...
Thanks for your reply sub69. Very helpful and much appreciated .
sub69 said:
If you get a Touch Pro now, and it's got bad T-Mobile 3G reception, you can either put up with 2G signals until a Radio update is released (officially or otherwise), or send it back.
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With mine, it wasn't that it was dropping from 3G to 2G. It was losing the signal totally. So I would have been missing voice calls too.
Perhaps I wasnt as clear as i intended in my last post here but, as a member has already said the reception issues are most likely down to the radio stack rather than a poor device, this was an issue with the Hermes when it was first released (August 2006) and it was remedied about a month later with a radio update, im surprised people are sending thiers back so hastily!?!?
The thing i would HIGHLY recommend is (once we have HardSPL and etc...) to flash the radio stack which accompanies the Vario IV ROM once it is released /leaked. This radio version (if different) would have the TmobileUK tweaks in it if they still do such a thing?!
Im yet to see if anyone on orange UK has the same issues?? (same bands as tmobile).

Unable to get 3G on my Touch Cruise

I've recently got a new 3G iphone. It came with a new SIM card that is suppose to be optimized for iphone. When I put this sim card into my Touch Cruise, I am unable to get 3G. There is signal bars but I cannot make or receive phone calls. The only way to make or receive phone calls is by disabling the 3G. The same applies for Data. I thought maybe the radio ROM was not working so I changed it to the Murata ROM but I am still having problems. I am on the Rogers network in Canada. Has anybody else having similar problems? Any help would be appreciated as I still find my Touch Cruise more useful than the 3G iphone.
Most probably is ur phone broken. U will have to send it to the service. Maaaaany users had/have/will have problems with calls, connections, signal strenght,bluetooth, camera, broken wheel etc. I had... Touch cruise is crapy.
If you know someone with a non-iPhone 3G sim, try theirs in your Cruise and see what happens
benjimen said:
If you know someone with a non-iPhone 3G sim, try theirs in your Cruise and see what happens
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Actually, I did this today. Same thing happen. I would get a 3G signal but when I tried to make a call, I get no signal. But when I disable the 3G, edge works fine with voice and data.
Hi, I sufered the same problem until yesterday. I had the same problems. Yesterday I switched off the HSDPA switch in the software, after a soft reset the TC came back online. Probably worth trying?
Gr. WAS
As good as it gets here is a link to an solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389601
Succes, WAS
WAS said:
As good as it gets here is a link to an solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389601
Succes, WAS
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I've tried both Murata radio roms. Both gives very good 3G signal but when I try to make a call or use data, I get no connection. I've tried the original radio ROM and some of the Kaiser ported radio Roms. They all give me no connection with 3G. In every case, when I disable the 3G, I can make calls and get data although it is only through edge and GPRS. I looked at my box for the TC and it is revision A. Do I need to send my TC for repair? I even went as far as calling my cell phone provider(Rogers) and they couldn't help me. The phone is functional but without 3G I am not getting very fast data speeds.
The problem started with my TC started after upgrading to Udk R6 and R7, after upgrading to R8 and a new radio version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351964
Will give you an updated radio version what will have a good match with the Udk diamond R8 Rom.
Succes, WAS
just a question, I'm on ATT, and the sim card I use on my polaris came off the iPhone3G, and I get the H (the high speed thing) sign on the phone during data sessions. on some areas I'm only able to get E and sometimes even the G sign came on and off. so I guess, maybe wherever you are, the 3G signal isn't strong enough, so you can only get edge.
and as of the other person noted, polaris is kind of at the edge of getting broken, fast. I only uses mine exclusively for web browsing for a week when the phone goes crazy. sent it to repair and everything seems to be in "sane" mode now let's hope that my phone didn't try to go insane again
rycckor said:
I've recently got a new 3G iphone. It came with a new SIM card that is suppose to be optimized for iphone. When I put this sim card into my Touch Cruise, I am unable to get 3G. There is signal bars but I cannot make or receive phone calls. The only way to make or receive phone calls is by disabling the 3G. The same applies for Data. I thought maybe the radio ROM was not working so I changed it to the Murata ROM but I am still having problems. I am on the Rogers network in Canada. Has anybody else having similar problems? Any help would be appreciated as I still find my Touch Cruise more useful than the 3G iphone.
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I am having the same problem, 2 weks ago I traveled to other country without 3g network (only edge) and i had used a diferents simcards. When I come back to my country, I lost the 3g only works in GSM , I try another sims card and same problem and the orignal simcard in differnts mobiles 3gs worsk fine. Do you find any solutions? You are the only person who i find with the same problem.
Thanks
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Guys, maybe a silly comment but did you check the following settings : phone/menu/options/band and check select network type to auto?
I have had problems before with 3G & HSDPA. Somtimes when your registered on HSDPA and you travell away from that mast/area into an area that only has 3G or even only Edge, then device does not re-register onto the other band and you will not be bale to make calls and will miss calls. This happened for days one time and i very nearly hard reset my device in frustration, i eventually found out it was a network problem.
Another work around is going to phone/menu/networks and manually select networks and hopefully it should bring up your 3G network.
Phone operators do not like telling you that their 3G or HSPDA networks do not have good coverage or intermittent quality of signal. My 3G network only has 70% coverage & 30 % of that is HSDPA, so i sometimes end up on EDGE and hence miss calls.
Try playing around with the setting above one at a time. When im stuck i manually set band to GSM (edge), then when travelling away reset back to auto. Most of the time however it is fine.
Hi, I'm from Argentina. I had the same problem with 3G after a trip to other country. Now my TC only works well in GSM Band. Unfortunatelly we don't have service support here so if anyone knows how to fix this will be highly appreciated.
I have the same problem in my Polaris. I tried almost every radio i could find, i tried with different sim cards, i tried with official wm6 and wm6.1 roms with no result. When 3G is enabled i can not make or receive calls. I think that the problem started when i first upgraded from WM6 to WM6.1. Now i keep band selection to GSM so at least i can use my polaris as a phone. There must be something that prevents gsm connection when 3G is active. I hope a registry tweak could be found for this. I' m just one step from sending my device to be serviced.
I have the same trouble with my virgin uk sim card and t-mobile which share the same network(need to turn off 3g),but no trouble with my asda sim which uses the vodaphone network.So if you try different sim cards make sure they dont share networks.Another thing i've noticed with my virgin sim is all my preferred networks are unchecked but my phone will still connect if my 3g is turned off?

HSDPA Data roaming problem

Hi guys,
This may not strictly be a Sensation question at all, but since I'm using a Sensation, and I'm baffled by this problem, I thought I'd ask if any of you have any idea what could be going wrong here. I've posted about this issue on Vodafone UK's forums but I can't post the link as I haven't posted enough yet, so I've copied what I wrote below;
Firstly I'm sorry if this is in the wrong place, it's an odd problem and I'm not sure who to contact about it. I spend a lot of time abroad in the Czech Republic, so I have a Vodafone UK contract with the data traveller service included. This has worked brilliantly for months, however about a month or so ago I started to notice problems when connected through HSDPA, on ANY of the local networks here (Vodafone CZ, o2, T-Mobile).
What happens is data can be downloaded, but data can't be sent, meaning that virtually anything that requires data doesn't work as most things do require data to be sent. So for example, the Speedtest.net app will give a great download speed, but then it hangs on the upload speed. I use a piece of software called Pubtran to look up public transport times here, and this doesn't work now over HSDPA. I can't browse the internet over HSDPA, pages just time out. Facebook won't refresh, and exchange email won't sync, etc.
Now, if I force the phone onto a GSM type connection, so that the link is over EDGE instead, everything works perfectly. No issues whatsoever, so this is unfortunately the way I have to leave it just now. I've tried the same SIM in a different phone (my usual phone is an HTC Sensation, the test phone is an HTC Desire), and there's exactly the same issue. As stated above, this problem exists regardless of the network I'm connected to. It looks as though there could be a problem with Vodafone UK's APN, but then again it's working fine over EDGE, so it's most odd. I can't test with a different UK SIM unfortunately as I don't have one to try. Some of my friends here have Vodafone CZ SIMs, and these of course work perfectly over HSDPA.
Just to be clear, this problem only effects data over HSDPA, and it only started about a month or so ago. If I switch my phone to GSM, data works fine. This is repeatable on an HTC Desire that I have too. Does this sound like a network problem?
Thanks in advance
Why don't you just call Vodafone and ask
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