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Is it worth going back to WM5?

Hi,
I have Qtek 9100, SPL/IPL 2.26, Radio 2.19. Since upgrade to WM6 (3 different editions) I had nothing but glitches and bugs. I miss calls, my alarm not working anymore, OS is slow to name a few. I'm not sure I used anything of what WM6 is supposed to give me since I don't use GPRS on my phone and not sure what else WM6 is supposed to give me.
So I'd rather have stable but outdated OS then cutting edge OS which works only 80% of the time.
What exactly I'll be missing if I go back to WM6? And secondly what is most stable version of WM5 out there and recommended? I used Cingular before but it's locked my phone last time I used it so I'd rather not to go with brand locked by Carrier.

artisticcheese said:
I have Qtek 9100, SPL/IPL 2.26, Radio 2.19. Since upgrade to WM6 (3 different editions) I had nothing but glitches and bugs. I miss calls, my alarm not working anymore, OS is slow to name a few. I'm not sure I used anything of what WM6 is supposed to give me since I don't use GPRS on my phone and not sure what else WM6 is supposed to give me.
So I'd rather have stable but outdated OS then cutting edge OS which works only 80% of the time.
What exactly I'll be missing if I go back to WM6? And secondly what is most stable version of WM5 out there and recommended? I used Cingular before but it's locked my phone last time I used it so I'd rather not to go with brand locked by Carrier.
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If you aren't sure what you will miss, then you probably won't miss much . To be honest WM6 is really more like WM5 SP2 (its not a major rewrite or anything). Personally I find WM6 faster than the original Cingular ROM.
For WM5, go try Faria's AKU 3.3 or maybe Molski's Crossbow add on. Both are stable and very fast. There are others that people really like too.

Combination of OS and Radio

It seems they can't be freely combined. Shortly after I got my Kaiser I changed my ROM to HTC's (Shipping version GER), because I don't really like Orange's.
Anyways I also changed to Radio 1.27.12.29, and I had problems with Standby of deaths.
Today, by chance, I installed Radio 1.27.14.09, and it seemed fine, but now the sound was gone :S
Anyways, I find this rather weird. I could always combine any Radio with any Rom on my SPV m3100 without any problems. I've got the Radio it came with (.12.11) back on and I think it's fine now. Could it be device-specific?
Maybe someone's already written this somewhere, I didn't bother to check. Just thought I'd let you guys know...

Correct, the radio version and the RIL (Radio Interface Layer) module in the OS must match. I believe sleuth wrote it already somewhere.

1.27.14.09 radio only works with the latest AT&T os.
You can use any other radio except .14.09, unless you flash it with dutty's tilt touch flo rom or any other generic AT&T rom.

Kaiser Radios [OFFICIALLY A DEAD THREAD]

This thread is WAAAAY out of date and I haven't had time to update. Please check out AllTheWay's post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182

I'd say stickie this,with each having an agreed upon description, i know you can find them in the wiki, but these are some of the most asked questions/problems people come up with in new ROM threads.

As mention in this thread, there is even a newer 1.27.12.29 Radio version out but unfortunately nobody has dumped it yet...

ponch92 said:
There are currently 3 radios out there on the threads:
1. 1.27.14.09
2. 1.27.12.17
3. 1.27.12.11
1. I believe this one is the new ATT only radio that apparently upgrades some reception and performance but I haven't really seen it.
2. I haven't tried this one but I think it should work with all Kaisers, I don't know.
3. This was the radio that came with my ATT TILT and I think the default radio for most of these ROMs.
Does anyone have a better explination and/or performance reports? I thought it would be a good idea to make a thread so people know what these radios are and where to get them.
-Ponch
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AT&T User here in Sacramento, CA.
Honestly 1.27.12.17 radio gives me the best reception over all of them. I also connect to GPRS and 3G quicker. Call quality and overall reception is much improved over the other two radios.

It might be a good idea to mention that Radio 1) 1.27.14.09 is only compatible with the ATT rom aku 0.4.4 build 18128. This is because the the both this radio and rom include new drivers that can only produce sound when used together.
So if someone is using 1.27.14.09 with any other ROM than the unreleased Att build 18128, they will not have any sound.

alltheway said:
AT&T User here in Sacramento, CA.
Honestly 1.27.12.17 radio gives me the best reception over all of them. I also connect to GPRS and 3G quicker. Call quality and overall reception is much improved over the other two radios.
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I understand that the 1.27.12.xx radios can't be used with the AT&T 1.60 rom, but what about the other way around? Can the 1.27.12.17 radio be used with the AT&T 1.60 (stock, not custom) rom? Or does the 1.60 ROM require the newer 1.27.14.09 radio due to the drivers?

Good note, I'll put it in.

mfrazzz said:
I understand that the 1.27.12.xx radios can't be used with the AT&T 1.60 rom, but what about the other way around? Can the 1.27.12.17 radio be used with the AT&T 1.60 (stock, not custom) rom? Or does the 1.60 ROM require the newer 1.27.14.09 radio due to the drivers?
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For some strange reason...The newest ATT ROM requires you to have 1.27.14.09. I don't know specifically why this is the case but if you do not use that ratio with the new AT&T ROM it will not work. Vice Versa if you use that newest AT&T radio 1.27.14.09 with a HTC ROM you will get no sound. Just read the 1st post and it will solve all your problems.

Ah this thread certainly helps clear some things up. I couldn't figure out this whole radio problem - but having it laid out like this makes it clear.
So does anyone know the advantage of the newest AT&T Radio? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you have to use an older version of the OS to get a newer version of the radio... ?

It should also be noted that you can get other undesirable effects other besides no sound when using 1.27.14.09 on a ROM that isn't based on AKU 0.4.4
So far I've experienced:
-- Camera not working, shows black image and touchscreen functionality messed up in Camera app (Dutty's New Build + CE OS No.6)
-- Unable to get past HTC logo screen until power timeout, then pixelated garbage fills screen (Gullum Kaiser Touch I)
It might be prudent for ROM cookers to integrate the correct radio into their ROM's for the time being so we don't get a flood of people freaking out that their cameras are broken or their units are bricked.
It remains to be seen if the 1.27.14.09 radio is a one-off, or will be the standard for all new ROMs. Who knows, it may also represent a permanent split between Tilt-based and TYTN II-based ROMs in the future.

rob.ocelot said:
It should also be noted that you can get other undesirable effects other besides no sound when using 1.27.14.09 on a ROM that isn't based on AKU 0.4.4
So far I've experienced:
-- Camera not working, shows black image and touchscreen functionality messed up in Camera app (Dutty's New Build + CE OS No.6)
-- Unable to get past HTC logo screen until power timeout, then pixelated garbage fills screen (Gullum Kaiser Touch I)
It might be prudent for ROM cookers to integrate the correct radio into their ROM's for the time being so we don't get a flood of people freaking out that their cameras are broken or their units are bricked.
It remains to be seen if the 1.27.14.09 radio is a one-off, or will be the standard for all new ROMs. Who knows, it may also represent a permanent split between Tilt-based and TYTN II-based ROMs in the future.
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Right you are. It seems like this .09 radio is an ATT only thing right now. Hopefully we'll all join in radio cooked harmony soon. I haven't noticed much of a difference between the ones I've tried. I'm currently using 1.27.12.17 with Dutty's newest rom and I was using the .09 with CUSTEL's Rom yesterday... I don't see a difference. Some people do.

I just became a senior member, hooray!

ponch92 said:
I just became a senior member, hooray!
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Great contributions so far!

1.27.12.11 vs 1.27.12.17
Hi guys,
1.27.12.17 has better battery life for sure after tested both of them.

hey guys, i have a tilt and just upgraded to the 1.27.12.17 radio. i used to have 2-3 bars at home and now have 4 bars! i'm using tmobile usa btw, in case that helps

omaralt said:
hey guys, i have a tilt and just upgraded to the 1.27.12.17 radio. i used to have 2-3 bars at home and now have 4 bars! i'm using tmobile usa btw, in case that helps
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I noted your find in the first post, thanks!

Just to throw things off even more...It has been reported by users that there is another Radio, but it hasn't been extracted yet.
Congrats on making this a sticky!!
Radio Version 1.27.12.32
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528

alltheway said:
Just the throw things off even more...It has been reported by users that there is another Radio, but it hasn't been extracted yet.
Congrats on making this a sticky!!
Radio Version 1.27.12.32
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349528
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got it bud, thanks.

ponch92 said:
[*]1.27.12.29
You can read about this recent radio here.
This Radio hasn't made it out to main stream cooking yet but should be a general Kaiser radio that works with ROMs not using the specific ATT build (see 1.27.14.09).
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FYI This is the radio I have on my XDA Stellar as well as it being on the Dutch Orange Kaiser.
When I get my replacement Stellar (dead pixel issues) I'll be flashing Dutty's ROM and will be able to confirm whether it works with this radio.

eyebeebe said:
FYI This is the radio I have on my XDA Stellar as well as it being on the Dutch Orange Kaiser.
When I get my replacement Stellar (dead pixel issues) I'll be flashing Dutty's ROM and will be able to confirm whether it works with this radio.
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Awesome thanks...

Uni Radio reviews

Hi all masters in the forum
I started this to learn more about all diferent radios existing for Uni, and to know from the ones with more knowledge wich has best signal, best batery consumption, etc.
Hope you all be interested in this
Thanks!
Gracias

For me the best radio version is 1.15.00, no crashes no signal lost, for the time with 1.18.00 i have a lot of problems, in one way it also depends and from mobile operator

1.18.00 also gave me nothing but trouble. 1.15.00 and 1.17.00 are by far more stable and crashed but a handful of times on me. That was on a WM 6.1 ROM though and I am not even sure if it really was due to the radio or main ROM. That said, I am not sure if any of the upgrades ever brought any increase in radio performance. The general advice here really is "if it ain't broken don't fix it" because there is (nearly) nothing to be gained.

I'm using radio 1.18.00 here with original T-Mobile UK WM5 from 2005 (3 years ago!). No problems whatsoever.

where can i get radio for uni?i need radio 1.15 unlock please link and i hope not ftp link

beni_joss said:
where can i get radio for uni?i need radio 1.15 unlock please link and i hope not ftp link
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look here

-Jonny- said:
look here
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thanks guys btw i dont know why i cant download from your link.may be my connection too bad.
i just upgraded my uni to radio 1.18 n tomal v12 (my G4 /64mb uni) but sometime(much more) my uni hangup while open messages.

Major crash today with WM6.1 and Radio 1.18

Hi,
After using Ranju's WM6.1 ROM with Radio 1.18 I experienced some major problems today.
First I started to having problems with poor reception. Then one call went down and after that, each time I tried to started a new call, the radio would hang and I had to do a reset.
I would get the "Phone not ready" message when I tried to access the settings screen.
I tried reset's, removing the SIM, etc.
I actually thought the radio part was broken.
Then I installed radio 1.15 and everything started to work again.
Downgraded to Jwrightmcps Crossbow ROM Update 2.12.08 WWE now.
What a scare!
So if this happens to you, try to get rid of radio 1.18 first.
Unfortunatlu now my 4 GB HCSD is not recognized...
Cheers,
vma

well, ranju himself recommends radio 1.15 for his roms. i think radio selection is still a voodoo craft . it is probably dependent on many factors, some out of our reach. you should try and stick to the one you like (not too many choices there).

SDHC issue solved on page 11 (?): there is a cab to download...
Well, I do own 2 Universals now (and a BA). I used Jwright's .06 for a long time and was happy with it. Too happy, to update it to .08 for all the trouble it is to get everything as i like it.
It was on my second one, where I tried Ranju's ROM. I was really freaking out... Thought the phone was broken.
To tell the truth, the only thing I did like about WM6.1 was the message "You missed a call"...
Cheers,
vma

Me too had problems with 1.18 and downgraded to 1.15
Everythings fine now with the radiopart.
I never had any big problems with Ranju's ROM,
but now I'm testing the new PDAViet ROM and it's the fastest I've ever
flashed. The only problem I already had with it are some unmotivated
softresets.
Now I'm waiting for Ranju's 19900 version

LifeIsAnUpgrade said:
Me too had problems with 1.18 and downgraded to 1.15
Everythings fine now with the radiopart.
I never had any big problems with Ranju's ROM,
but now I'm testing the new PDAViet ROM and it's the fastest I've ever
flashed. The only problem I already had with it are some unmotivated
softresets.
Now I'm waiting for Ranju's 19900 version
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The previous version of PDAviet generated unexpected reset too.
I changed for Ranju's 7.6 and now very stable (no change of radio 01.18)
The radio version can also depend of the network that you use (European, American...) but I don't kwon which radio version is more appropriated for which country.
For me Ranju's and 01.18 works fine, my SDHC 16 gb too

The strange thing is that Radio 1.18 did work fine for over a week!
It was from one moment to the other that I got this problem. Either the ROM got corrupt or it generated some invalid data.
Very freaky stuff...
Today I did not have any problem with the phone, using Radio 1.15 and Jwright's ROM, so it is definitly not a problem of the phone itself.
I have to add that I was using a cloned SIM during that week, but I have that SIM for a long time and it never gave any trouble (I have made myself two clones, so that I have a total of 3 SIM's: this way I can choose which phone to use, without having to replace the SIM).
Cheers,
vma