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I tested over 10 different WM6 roms over the last 6 weeks. All of them are crashing a couple of times a day. Getting tired of missing calls or hanging wizard I decided to start cooking my own roms.
First in the kitchen from Faria. DEV-Wizcrossbow Clean v2. But the roms that came out where also crashing. Then the InGeNeTiC Kitchen same. Then the dOUbleofour_Wiz_Kitchen.
I wanted a good WM6 rom because I just like all the new little changes.
Am I the only one having those crashes at least 5 times a day? Or am I using the phone to haevy? ---> 40 calls a day, 1000 contacts, 2000 items in the calendar. None other application loaded as the defaults except TomTom.
Yesterday I decided to go back to WM5. I installed the excellent rom from Molski.biz He has put the crossbow team in it. It looks like the new WM6 roms.
And today I didn't have any crash!!!
Please I would like to hear other comments about the daily use of WM6. In all the forums I only read about a working or not working single program.
FYI
I have a WIZA200 (Original from t-mobile Netherlands)
Radio 2.19.11
IPL/SPL 2.21
Unlocked
Thanks,
Conrad
conradh said:
I tested over 10 different WM6 roms over the last 6 weeks. All of them are crashing a couple of times a day. Getting tired of missing calls or hanging wizard I decided to start cooking my own roms.
First in the kitchen from Faria. DEV-Wizcrossbow Clean v2. But the roms that came out where also crashing. Then the InGeNeTiC Kitchen same. Then the dOUbleofour_Wiz_Kitchen.
I wanted a good WM6 rom because I just like all the new little changes.
Am I the only one having those crashes at least 5 times a day? Or am I using the phone to haevy? ---> 40 calls a day, 1000 contacts, 2000 items in the calendar. None other application loaded as the defaults except TomTom.
Yesterday I decided to go back to WM5. I installed the excellent rom from Molski.biz He has put the crossbow team in it. It looks like the new WM6 roms.
And today I didn't have any crash!!!
Please I would like to hear other comments about the daily use of WM6. In all the forums I only read about a working or not working single program.
FYI
I have a WIZA200 (Original from t-mobile Netherlands)
Radio 2.19.11
IPL/SPL 2.21
Unlocked
Thanks,
Conrad
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Go try TNT 2.0. You should be plesantly surprised!
what carrier do you use and what in what state/country
I Am in the Netherlands Europe
notyourdaddy said:
what carrier do you use and what in what state/country
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I am from The Netherlands. I am using the network of KPN the largest network provider overhere.
what radio version are you using
WM6 TNT 2.0 Good or Not
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Go try TNT 2.0. You should be plesantly surprised!
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That one I haven't tried. Do you know a link or tread to find it?
haha i made a classic mistake, sorry noob i didnt read your post properly , did you try upgrading your radio to 2.69?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312867
Radio 02.19.11
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Is the radio version important for not crashing? Using this radio version in combination with molski.biz wm5 rom gives very good reception.
it should help stability and not missing calls.
Well I ran almost all WM6 romz and no matter what radio ver. I used I either got Missed calls, SMS, or could Not reconnect back the GPRS once I would reboot or had Lost signal
I tried RAdio ver.
2.47.11
2.19
2.69
They were all no good for me. I"m in the US and I"m in the NYC and NJ area
It was so bad I had to go back to WM5
I'm going back to Wm5 tonight when I get a chance, I'm not getting 90% of the SMS messages I'm told were sent or tested.. Used radio 2.61 and 2.19UK.
I get calls with 2.19, but no SMS.
I use Cingular/ATT and am in FL.
I am using 2.47 T-Mobile, Denver, CO.
Yeah 2.19UK didn't work for me either and I use Cingular in Atlanta. I switched to 2.47.11 and I am having better luck
Bahahah, I just bricked my G3 running a Wm5 update.
Hit 99% of the install and my computer BSOD'd with a USB error.
Now I can't install anything. Fantastic.
I installed the Crossbow Professional 1.7 based on Faria's ROM. At first I was pleasantly surprised and love the new features and look, but after about a week my directpush stopped working, I rebooted and now doing that caused me to lose registry settings and since then it has been crashing quite a bit, no calls, missed calls, no emails. For some reason my clock reset to 24 hr military style, my ring tone changed to something completely different...
What I don't understand is that MS demoed WM6 on the wizard and if you look at the new table interface MS demonstrated, they have an MDA there as well... why give up on this solid performed and not issue WM6 officially. It pisses me of that T-Mo US wants me to spend $300 to buy their Wing to get Mobile 6 when the MDA is completely sufficient. Especially since they don't even have the 3G network rolled out. I'd rather switch to AT&T and get the 8525 - the download speed is amazing on 3G.
Sorry for the rant...
alexsch8 said:
I installed the Crossbow Professional 1.7 based on Faria's ROM. At first I was pleasantly surprised and love the new features and look, but after about a week my directpush stopped working, I rebooted and now doing that caused me to lose registry settings and since then it has been crashing quite a bit, no calls, missed calls, no emails. For some reason my clock reset to 24 hr military style, my ring tone changed to something completely different...
What I don't understand is that MS demoed WM6 on the wizard and if you look at the new table interface MS demonstrated, they have an MDA there as well... why give up on this solid performed and not issue WM6 officially. It pisses me of that T-Mo US wants me to spend $300 to buy their Wing to get Mobile 6 when the MDA is completely sufficient. Especially since they don't even have the 3G network rolled out. I'd rather switch to AT&T and get the 8525 - the download speed is amazing on 3G.
Sorry for the rant...
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I'm also in Florida and didn't have much luck with previous WM6 ROMs. When the InGeNeTiCs dogfood ROM was released, I installed the plain-jane version and had no problems. I decided to cook my own using mattk_r's Stripped and Ready kitchen and haven't had any problems whatsoever. I use the 2.19UK radio and have no missed calls, no ringtone changes (which I had with previous WM6 ROMs), no MMS problems (other than the sync issue which plagues everyone). I highly suggest cooking your own - put what you want in there and experiment. Once you find a mixture that you like, you'll be one happy WM6 user.
I'd suggest you leave out your WAP settings (keep GPRS from connecting) and see if you still have issues.
From what I've seen and read, the phones have a hard time juggling data and phone functions, and supposedly this is a weakness in all PDA phones like ours.
Same thing here
I have a US T-mobile MDA g3 too.
Been flash many wm6 ROMs. Then flash back wm5 because wm6 freeze on me all the time.
I just flashed TNT2 it seems better all my application works (spb shell, insight codewallet, memmaid, phatpad....) but still freeze once a while take quit long time to boot (it turns off by itself couple of time I have to take out the battery to boot) I will give other week test then decide to keep it or not .
All those wm6 roms none of them flawless on MDA, sometime not compatible with certain software I have, sometime just no sound after use the earphone ...
So T-mobile will never give out the official wm6rom for MDA? Like they did for Dash?
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I have a US T-mobile MDA g3 too.
So T-mobile will never give out the official wm6rom for MDA? Like they did for Dash?
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nope. they released the wing to basically screw us that bought the MDA. oh well im going to get the kaiser when it comes out anyways.
no problems with crashes here on any of the tested wm6 roms. running xplore 2.0 for some time now and still think its the best rom for me
As the title really - since HTC and various carriers have now released Official WM6 ROMs for some devices (Hermes, Herald etc), is anyone working on porting one of these over to the Wizard?
The build of the Official Hermes ROM is 5.2.1437 (Build 17944), I am sure a lot of Wizard users would like to see this, me included
Andy
yep..i'd like to see it too
eluth is doing so with the Herald/T-Mo Wing ROM.
nice to hear...
i must ask: what is the point?
to get to land of unstability?
what gain you are predicting....
Nothin, I'm inclined to agree. 15342 is the most stable build I've used yet. The Herald ROM doesn't even have Office 2003, VoIP or even the latest Windows Live. The only advantage I can think of is that the XIP section from the Herald perhaps allows you to pack more into the ROM. This is borne out by the fact that the Herald has the same amount of memory as the Wizard, yet the dump shows up around 135 mb on disk which is way more than the Wizard .nb can handle without thowing an error in build_imgfs.
If anyone can do it, eluth probably can, but I don't think many people will be joining in developing this one. I just lost my Wizard and though I have a brand new one coming , it's probably a G4 and I have a little catching up to do on that end before I can even think of something of this magnitude.
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i must ask: what is the point?
to get to land of unstability?
what gain you are predicting....
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I was thinking to maybe increase stability.....
I agree 15342 is probably the most stable release so far, however up until these official releases everthing so far has been pre-release stuff that has been leaked whether it was originally from a Wizard or not.
I still have issues with 15342, plus a lot of the underlying software is at least a year old. I would just like something new to play with......
Andy
any update if anyone working on the Official Release from HTC for Hermes / Dopod 838 pro / etc?
It is nice if we can feel the stability of this official release. Thanks.
Does anybody have a link to an extracted version of one of these roms? By extracted, I mean the actual files and rgu's.
This is what I am running on my Wizard and in my opinion, it is by far the best and fastest. No problems, Microsoft voice command is built in and works perfect. WiFi connects without a hitch, Bluetooth pairs and stays connected.....It is missing MMS and has office 2003. If you need MMS, there are many versions posted that you can add.
http://rapidshare.com/users/T4RZX2
the file to download is nk.nbf:
http://rapidshare.com/files/36233948/nk.nbf
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any update if anyone working on the Official Release from HTC for Hermes / Dopod 838 pro / etc?
It is nice if we can feel the stability of this official release. Thanks.
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I think you are dreaming. You are talking about rting a rom from one device (yes where it is stable) to another, then grafting drivers for the wizard onto it plus whatever else it will take/need and then you think it will be stable? 15431 and 15432 only became stable through lots of work and trial and error. I'm still not convinced they are any more stable thann the "official" 318 rom (and that isn't as stable as it was originally due to the updating and grafting done in most of those).
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porting, but don't expect a stable rom on one device to keep the stability on another device.
BTW: I still think a lot of the newer WM6 builds have nothing new in them other than support for newer hardware or specifics for a carrier.
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I think you are dreaming. You are talking about rting a rom from one device (yes where it is stable) to another, then grafting drivers for the wizard onto it plus whatever else it will take/need and then you think it will be stable? 15431 and 15432 only became stable through lots of work and trial and error. I'm still not convinced they are any more stable thann the "official" 318 rom (and that isn't as stable as it was originally due to the updating and grafting done in most of those).
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porting, but don't expect a stable rom on one device to keep the stability on another device.
BTW: I still think a lot of the newer WM6 builds have nothing new in them other than support for newer hardware or specifics for a carrier.
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Ok, thanx for the advice. I am too, currently stick to the clean Official wizard ROM, which found to be most stable and fast. Though, I have tested a lot of ROM out there.
I don't know how well a ROM from another device would work on ours but over in the Hermes corner which might be the brother of ours. Cingular calls ours the 8125 and the Hermes 8525. They have a new OFFICIAL AT&T Windows Mobile 6 Rom that has them all shook up. There have been 20 pages of posts in 2 days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317339
it's nothing special...basically what we already had, but with all the cingular add-on stuff... like Push to Talk and stuff... and it's bloated to death...lol..
What was the release date?
7/10/07 .. it wasnt officially released, it's a leak... but thats the ROM date .. came with a new RADIO too 1.48..
Sounds good, much newer than the one over here. Good luck with it.
The only thing that i like about it is the fact that i can now have wm6 with a working PTT
Pumpiron579 said:
This is what I am running on my Wizard
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Does it expose any problems at all?
I guess you must have done a lot of registry fixes, right? I mean, Hermes uses different driver stacks (I assume) and most probably they require different settings, which are device specific..
I would really try this out (especially because it solves the BT re-pairing problem), but firstly I wanted to make sure it is of minor risk and to understand what might be the time investment to get it to work.
Hey,
When I bought my Universal from ebay it already came with WM6 (a very buggy version, not sure from where). So I never really had the chance to test WM5.
I'm mostly having problems installing Hebrew support on the cooked roms. For instance PDAC (one of the companies who make hebrew for PPC) told me that because their software detects my device as WM5 their licensing system won't allow me to install (by the way, is there a work around this problem? This is all legit of course I want to buy this software).
I'm not going to ask what are the official differences because I can find more than enough about it on the web, but is there really a technical reason to stay with a cooked WM6 (being somewhat buggy)? Besides being prettier are the cooked roms giving any advantage over WM5 ? From my understanding both operating systems are pretty much the same besides the included software.
Thanks
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By the way I want to emphasize that I REALLY TRULY appreciate the effort spent into making these cooked roms. SERIOUSLY. This isn't a complaint thread!
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Yeah im think about downgrading but to be honest just flash with a good WM6 rom and then wait a bit and more software will come out its still a new OS and i like being like the elite few lol with WM6 thanks to XDA Developers!
rumble291 said:
Yeah im think about downgrading but to be honest just flash with a good WM6 rom and then wait a bit and more software will come out its still a new OS and i like being like the elite few lol with WM6 thanks to XDA Developers!
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Perhaps I will downgrade temporarily. My main concern is Hebrew support. Besides that everything else works just fine.
I would like to roll back to WM5 as well and tried Jwright's and Helmi's one. Both of them gave me surprising stable and reasonable fast experience. But one thing keeps me coming back to WM6 is the WAY MORE intelligence way of dialing a phone.
I am now still looking for a WM5 rom which is as stable as those I had quoted and WITH the Smartdialing function.
Any ideas? please share.
Thanks
ronaldphl said:
I would like to roll back to WM5 as well and tried Jwright's and Helmi's one. Both of them gave me surprising stable and reasonable fast experience. But one thing keeps me coming back to WM6 is the WAY MORE intelligence way of dialing a phone.
I am now still looking for a WM5 rom which is as stable as those I had quoted and WITH the Smartdialing function.
Any ideas? please share.
Thanks
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What's the smart-dialing function? I never had WM5 so I don't know the difference in dialing.
I just gave up on this idea after seeing how horrible WM5 is :/
And I actually managed to install Hebrew support! Yay!
I just gave up on this idea after seeing how horrible WM5 is :/
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WM5 horrible? wtf?
I you dont use video call, and you don't mind the bugs of WM6 with WiFi and MMS. Then stick with WM6. Otherwise.. use WM5.
DaVince said:
WM5 horrible? wtf?
I you dont use video call, and you don't mind the bugs of WM6 with WiFi and MMS. Then stick with WM6. Otherwise.. use WM5.
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From the things I saw in the official O2 installation I made:
- Sim contacts don't appear as regular contacts
- Outlook looks like the horrible outlook I had in my old PocketPC2002
- The phone dialer is not responsive and very buggy
- Overall slower than WM6
I'm personally not having any problems with WiFi in WM6.
And yeah I don't use video call or MMS I don't use any G3 features.
Oh.. you used the official WM5 from O2. I wouldn't use that myself.. too darn slow and lots of missing features. I'm using Jwright's ROM... anyway, it's just personal preference. I'd rather have all the features that my Universal can offer with WM5 rather than have a better looking WM6 ROM with buggy and missing features.
Highly Recommend To Try Kamal's WM5 ROM (AKU 3.5)
I recommend to try Kamal's WM5 ROM. You guys won't regret it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319838
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I have my i-mate SP5 running wm6 Tornado Perfect English Edition as of now. However I want to downgrade it back to the official i-mate ROM as I'm parting ways with my SP5.
I have found this ROM on the club i-mate FTP. ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/i-mate_SP5_WWE_2.5.331.2.zip
Can I flash this ROM without modifying anything and get to back to the original ROM? I did the SuperCID when I was upgrading so is there anything similar I should do when I'm downgrading?
Any help much appreciated.
Just hard reset and run the RUU, or be safe, format BINFS first
Do you mean the file I mentioned above? Couldn't find RUU file on the club i-mate server.
RUU is basically the ROM im talking about here
From what I've seen, the stock ROMs (like the iMate one) are usually bigger than the cooked WM6 ROMs. So if you're uncomfortable with doing a format BINFS, you may be able to just download the file from the ftp site, and run it. You should be back to WM5.
Why are you going back anyway?
I'm also back at WM5... I tried to get along with the WM6 of Karhoe (who did a pretty good job) but I've got the problem with the time out delay at the incoming calls.
There I'm getting very much calls a day it was very frustrating to have that delay of 6-10 seconds...
Greetz
@Karhoe: I'm downloading the file I posted in the first post. That supppose to be the world wide english (WWE) version. What I'm trying to ask is that ROM only contain the OS, not the radio stack or IPL and other stuff? I just want it to return to the original wm5 OS while keeping other settings.
@bipinsen: Thanks for that. I got myself a iPhone and selling the SP5. I think it's better to sell with the original OS as there is more resources out there.
Basically most of the AKU2 ROMS contain a whole new IPL and radio stack I think, why don't you check with typhoonnbftool ?
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@bipinsen: Thanks for that. I got myself a iPhone and selling the SP5. I think it's better to sell with the original OS as there is more resources out there.
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Oooohhhh.. Now I'm envious!
I should think that selling it with WM6 should get you more buyers.
I look on Craigslist and rarely see WM6 phones. Annoys me. Part of why I chose HTC because I new I could buy it cheaper and upgrade it myself.
Just to update anyone who is interested I have downgraded using the ROM i mentioned in the first post. It was pretty straight forward; just have to run the installer.
@Exitao: I agree, but the buyer is more likely to find bugs in unsupported ROM. Now I have been using the wm5 ROM for few hours I notice how sluggish the official ROM is. Maybe I will give the buyer option to upgrade into the new ROM.
WM5 was always buggy, but so was WinCE3.0. Well, it is an MS product after all. They never got rid of the bugs, they just "upgraded" the OS.
Hi Guys,
I have been in contact with T-Mobile on a few occasions with regards to the update for the Vario 3, however I seem to be going nowhere fast as per the update to the Vario 2.
Anyone have any contacts within HTC or T-Mob to get a beta release of the software?
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but it's what my search for 'T-mobile windows 6.1' led me to!
I've just received a Vario III replacement from T-mobile UK, and it comes installed with an official T-mobile 6.1 Rom.
I'm currently dumping it, and will attempt to reconstruct it (for installing for future returns if needed), and upload it if anyone wants it.
Apologies if this is old news and has been around for ages, but I could not find it in searches.
yes please I would like this very much!
I would also love to have this rom
Ok, I tried reconstructing it, but it was not successful.
I used the base rom and did everything as discribed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337066
I could not try it, as if it did not work, I'd lose the official rom, so someone here tried it and it was not like the T-mobile 6.1 rom.
Does anyone know if I need to use a 6.1 base rom instead of the WM6 one mentioned in the reconstruction thread?
I can upload the dumped raw files if anyone wants to try reconstruction?
Hi Folks,
I've uploaded the dumped .raw files from the official T-mobile UK 6.1 rom that I received with a replacement Vario III:
Part00.raw: http://rapidshare.com/files/193445393/Part00.raw
Part01.raw: http://rapidshare.com/files/193445718/Part01.raw
Part02.raw: http://rapidshare.com/files/193452226/Part02.raw
Part03.raw: http://rapidshare.com/files/193466366/Part03.raw.html
If you manage to reconstruct this, please upload the resulting rom so that myself and others can have it!
Cheers!
Anyone brave enough to give this a go?
Also, how good is the ROM? Does it appear fast?
It does seem quite good, stable & fast to be honest... and I've been used to quite up to date 6.1 cooked roms.
Though I usually just stick PointUI over any rom I use (as it's still better than TF2D for most things), so cooked roms don't really speed anything up significantly compared to the original T-mobile WM6 rom (as PointUI runs fast on all versions).
This rom doesn't have some of the good customisations or applications of more recent cooked roms, but it does come with a version of Audio Manager that has Volume up and down buttons on the screen. Seemingly unlike most chiefs, I consider this to be a useful feature for a music player!
I'd say it's definietly worth a try!
T-Mobile 6.1 UK (reconstructed without radio)
http://rapidshare.com/files/196056809/T-Mobile_6.1_UK.rar
Very nice.
Quick question, what is the version of the radio on your device?
Good work monkey, it works a treat. Cheers!
There are some decent things about this ROM on first impressions. The screen update when keyboard typing seems exceptionally fast, although the screen tilt change is perhaps a little slower than on some others ROMs.
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Very nice.
Quick question, what is the version of the radio on your device?
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The radio on my own device is from T-Mobile NL (just look at my sig)
I don't know the radio or the SPL version from the UK rom so I didn't include it.
Radio version 1.70.18.02 came with the 6.1 official T-mobile 6.1 rom on my Kaiser, and it seemed to work great.
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Radio version 1.70.18.02 came with the 6.1 official T-mobile 6.1 rom on my Kaiser, and it seemed to work great.
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Same radio as the dutch one, and is already in the wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
I had a new 6.1 UK rom when I had phone back but it would not let me pair up bluetooth with pc.
Any one got any problems with this with the rom?