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As a external powersupply, it says that the capacity is 12000 MAh so enough for 12 charges, or do I make a mistake somewhere?
It seems that a miniUSB connection is suplied whit it so I shouldn't now why it wouldn't do the job and the size is (for me) acceptable with almost 3x3x0,5 inch, I mean for tracking at locations whitout electricity it could keep your GPS going.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.19086
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I am sorry forget the link
Willem
Tried what? No link? Product name? Anything?
USB Charging
Not sure about how many times it would charge your diamond...but it looks like it has a Female USB connector so any USB cable could be plugged into it to charge ANY device...if your device allows USB charging that is.
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Wasim
12,000Mah!?!
Doubt it, must have been some serious squashing to get that much juice in there!
My laptop battery is twice the size of that and has 5100Mah capacity. Would be great to be able to charge it from that thing!
Ill just ordered
I just ordered the battery and as soon as it arrives I will write a review of it.
Willem
I don't think it'll work. There were some user reviews on similar charger saying it won't charge their ppc's through USB.
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12,000Mah!?!
Doubt it, must have been some serious squashing to get that much juice in there!
My laptop battery is twice the size of that and has 5100Mah capacity. Would be great to be able to charge it from that thing!
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your laptop battery is also higher voltage, probably 12V.
think of the AA-size NiMh cells, the best ones are 1.2V 2800mAh.. two of those aren't close to the size of a laptop battery and yet they have higher mAh.
but you're right, 12000 mAh in that thing is utterly impossible
edit; anyone tried this?
http://www.instructables.com/id/Portable-USB-Charger-Version-2.0/
edit again; this seems more like a real product, but it's larger than the actual diamond is. not too convenient.
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=4125&t_mode=des
late edit; if a computer usb connection is too weak to charge the diamond, shouldn't it be possible to solder a cable that connects the diamond to two usb ports simultaneously?
Wilsas said:
It seems that a miniUSB connection is suplied whit it so I shouldn't now why it wouldn't do the job
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I have one of those crummy double A chargers from energiser i got from a friend and using the mini usb included with it, the phone does indeed charge but only when its off. When its on the power its using makes the battery pack redundant, but thats for my crappy charger. I think this should work, and if not it would work for another phone or device.
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but you're right, 12000 mAh in that thing is utterly impossible
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I made a small calculation my 2000MAh is in size 40X35X10mm =14000mm3
The size of the 12000MAh is 74,93X74,93X14,986mm=84138,9704314
84138,9704314/14000=6,0099264593857142857142857142857
6,0099264593857142857142857142857 X 2000MAH (which is the size of my battery)=12019,85291877142857142857142857
Acoording this caluculation it should be physical possible I just don't now how much cell it has and neather or by just doubling the size you can double the capacity aswell.
Willem
ShatteredAxe said:
I have one of those crummy double A chargers from energiser i got from a friend and using the mini usb included with it, the phone does indeed charge but only when its off. When its on the power its using makes the battery pack redundant, but thats for my crappy charger. I think this should work, and if not it would work for another phone or device.
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That's true for another Li-Io-charger which I bought from DealExtreme. From what I can see, they don't check their inventory very thoroughly for function and quality. Most of the stuff is just fine, but there is also some junk - and my Li-Io-charger was among it.
Since they advertise it only for the PSP, I can imagine that it will not offer the high current to charge a working Touch Diamond.
Have fun!
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Since they advertise it only for the PSP, I can imagine that it will not offer the high current to charge a working Touch Diamond.
Have fun!
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Do you now howmuch is the power use off a PSP?
I do agree with you that not everything is made off gold what they sell at DealExtreme, I also bought already some useless stuff from them but this item should be a verry big mistake from them cause there are rumors at there site about this item, I even doubt about it aswell and thats why I cancelled the order but after I made the calculation I am in doubt again.
I travell a lot and one off the country's which I visit a lot is Brasil and for such a country whit the infrastructure availleble (or just NOT availleble)
If you make a long bus journey or plaintrip (Brasil is at least 12 hours where in you have nothing to do) or even in the bush or just tracking such a item could be ideal.
Willem
After a email with my doubts Deal extreme send me the folowing message, in a previous message Itould them about the doubts and asked them to check or the ordered battery is realy 12000 mAh, they have checek it with the suplyer which confirmed the capacity of the battery, as soon it arives I will post a review of it, which maid take a few days cause I want to test how many times I can charge my phone with both a 2000mAh and the original 900mAh battery.
Dear Willem ,
Thank you for your reply.
Item 19086 was shipped on 12/31/2008 after checking. The supplier informed that it is 12000mAh, we will keep the ticket open, please feel free to send the news once you got it?
Thanks a lot.
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Received the battery
Received today the battery but the Mini USB doesn't fit at my Diamond the output is 5V 700mA anyone now or this is enough to use and charge my Diamond at the same time cause if this is possible I will try to make a custom cable.
Someone can tell me aswell which contacts are used to charge a phone on mini USB, as you can see it seems the contacts are about the same there is just a diference at the outside off the connector, the main outside connector is a standard plug but I don't now or there are connectors at the market to make from the standard connection a mini USB
The connector fits at my dock and is able to charge my phone so in case of emergency I can charge the extra battery that way
Here some pictures
http://84.104.255.96/connector/index.html
Well I tested the battery and the outcome is disapointing, could charge my 2000mAh battery once complete so I gues all the critics about it where right, I have contacted Deal Extreem but untill now no answer.
Willem
This is interesting guys, look at this one.
Do you think it is worth it? Will it damage smartphone?
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This is interesting guys, look at this one.
Do you think it is worth it? Will it damage smartphone?
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I don`t think you would be able to crank it long or hard enough to do any damage. My HTC hero and now my Desire S both require quite high power to charge properly so I would be surprised if it was possible to get any useful charge into a modern smartphone with a hand generator.
I have tried several of the (cheap)emergency chargers that run on AA alkaline or rechargeable batteries and none so far have been able to deliver more than a 20-30% charge before the voltage or current drops too low to continue.
The best solution I have tried for time away from the mains so far is a New Trent 5000mAH rechargeable battery pack from Amazon. They also do an 11000mAH version. These have 500mA and 1A USB outputs and claim to be able to charge an Ipad. My 5000mA one will do roughly 2 full charges plus a top up which is useful for a weekend away from mains power.
The price is however MUCH higher.
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basill said:
The best solution I have tried for time away from the mains so far is a New Trent 5000mAH rechargeable battery pack from Amazon. They also do an 11000mAH version. These have 500mA and 1A USB outputs and claim to be able to charge an Ipad. My 5000mA one will do roughly 2 full charges plus a top up which is useful for a weekend away from mains power.
The price is however MUCH higher.
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I don't see HTC Desire S being compatible with it.
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I don't see HTC Desire S being compatible with it.[/QUOTE
The outputs are standard full sized USB with a choice of current output so you can use the supplied cables or the USB cable supplied with your phone. HTC Android handsets are listed generally on that page and my own recommendation was intended to indicate the device works as advertised with the desire S
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Im using Powermonkey classic v2
2200mAh battery
1A output.
Huge accessories packed with pouch.
But, my Desire S charges only to 78%
https://powertraveller.com/iwantsome/primatepower/powermonkeyclassicV2/
A Good Charger from Ebay
I have a charger that can fully charge the Desire S battery, costs about 10$ on ebay, so far the phone battery is still at 100% for a few hours with normal everyday usage, i find it good enough for me.
The charging rate is about 300mA and not 500 or 800 as published.
It would be wise to buy a micro usb female to micro usb male extender cable.
The charger:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1500mAh-Mic...628988?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2a1017e97c
The extender:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320744819753
Check out porporta charger
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=4662&t_mode=des
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=5287&t_mode=des
Has anyone tried any of the external battery solutions available out there? I've read that the Kensington one is good, but it's only like 1200-1400 mAh !
I've run across a few on Ebay that are running 4000-5000 mAh - great for multiple charges!
Anyone have any feedback on any of these?
I have used a few different ones over time. I currently have an Energizer pack with a 4000mAh capacity.
I recently saw a a 40,000mAh pack at Radio Shack for around $120. I almost bought it, just on general principles.
Anyway, yes, the portable packs do work well. But remember that the mAh capacity of the pack doesn't translate 1:1 to charging capacity. The battery in the pack is only a single 3.7v LiPo cell, and the battery in your phone is ALSO a single 3.7v LiPo cell. These packs use a switching regulator to boost the output voltage, which means that the cell will be discharged faster than you might think. If you want to fully charge the battery in the Triumph, you should try to find something with at least 2000mAh capacity.
One of the more interesting solutions I've seen at the Sprint store was an integrated charger. It had a USB jack, a short micro-USB cable, and an AC adapter all built-in. So you could basically use the thing as a USB wall charger, then unplug it and take it with you when you expect to need a little extra juice on the road.
Personally, I'd like to see more portable Lithium-based packs that can also put out 12v for larger devices. Ideally, I'd love to be able to power my phone and a portable speaker system all from a single battery pack. Perhaps someone will get smart and build a box to house and adapt the 2-cell rechargeable packs used by RC car enthusiasts...
I purchased a 1500mah Anker battery off Amazon for $15. Works great!! Much better than 1380mah stock battery
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this one?
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1500mAh...2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1316908026&sr=1-2
anker do make external battery, i have one this ,5600mAh, very handy!
seems like have a 10$ off now, it's 39.99$! damn, i purchase with full price 49.99
Being the DIY kind of guy, I'm wondering if anyone tried to disassemble the Touchstone charger and post a schematic so that anyone with some electronics skills can make their own, in whatever shape or colour they desire.
Just wondering.
Ifixit has a pre touchstone tear down. They are similar, maybe you can request that site complete one on the TouchPad version.
I just looked mine over, there are no exposed screws. Any screws must be under the rubber foot, or the back may snap off. I'm not risking breaking mine. But, for $40 you could find out yourself
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All you need is a USB source with an output of 5.3V and 2A. But on that note, doesn't the higher level of amps charging the TP batteries more quickly kill the overall battery life of the batteries?
I use other brands of usb chargers unless i'm in a hurry, because the TP official charger will get it all juiced up in no time. Lower amperage, slower charging, longer overall battery life (i presume.)
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All you need is a USB source with an output of 5.3V and 2A. But on that note, doesn't the higher level of amps charging the TP batteries more quickly kill the overall battery life of the batteries?
I use other brands of usb chargers unless i'm in a hurry, because the TP official charger will get it all juiced up in no time. Lower amperage, slower charging, longer overall battery life (i presume.)
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Not sure about the truth of that, because I think it has something to do with the actual cycles. I'm not 100% sure so if I'm wrong someone correct me.
The OP was referring to the wireless induction charging in the Touchstone, not just a generic USB charger.
As to the whole more amps = lower health battery debate, I won't touch that. I've seen "proof" both ways. What I know is the OEM charger is 5.3v at 2 amps. I am going to trust HP that is the proper specs. Plus, any "smart" device doesn't pull more amperage than it needs, so its software controlled.
Sent from my Galaxy S II (i777)
Indeed, I am not talking about the wired charger, I am talking about the wireless Touchstone charger.
50 USD wouldn't be a problem for a Touchstone. However HP hasn't brought Touchpad's or accessories in Romania and offer no support for them, and I don't want to wait for 2 weeks for delivery.
And I also am the DIY kind of guy, and in the near future I'll be designing and building a custom desk which I would like to include a nice built-in stand for the Touchpad.
teddyspaghetti said:
All you need is a USB source with an output of 5.3V and 2A. But on that note, doesn't the higher level of amps charging the TP batteries more quickly kill the overall battery life of the batteries?
I use other brands of usb chargers unless i'm in a hurry, because the TP official charger will get it all juiced up in no time. Lower amperage, slower charging, longer overall battery life (i presume.)
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Any old 5.3v/2A source will not give 2A to the TP. The device relies on switch signaling on the data lines which aknowledges that it is connected to the correct (ie HP barrel) charger and this allows the full charge rate to be applied.
In all other cases the charger only gives a low level trickle charge with the resulting longer charge times.
LiPo batteries and their charging profiles are very efficient and are perfectly capable of handling higher charging currents without detriment.
If they become very drained these higher currents are required to start the charge cycle whereas lower power chargers would not.
This thread is not about charge current or cycles, not sure why you haven't gotten a real answer yet, so I decided to register to give you one.
Even if you had the schematics and a source for the components, winding the coil for the inductive charging would be your biggest issue. At best it probably wouldn't be efficient enough to be worth it and it would likely take a long time to charge if it did at all. All the parts and work it would take for a kind of crappy result wouldn't be as good as just spending the $50 or whatever.
That's the negative side though, so don't get me wrong. If I could I'd totally be building one myself as well. I wish more people were into DIY stuff like this. I also really like the idea of building it into a desk and you may be able to do that with an official Touchstone charger.
FjarrKontroll said:
This thread is not about charge current or cycles, not sure why you haven't gotten a real answer yet, so I decided to register to give you one.
Even if you had the schematics and a source for the components, winding the coil for the inductive charging would be your biggest issue. At best it probably wouldn't be efficient enough to be worth it and it would likely take a long time to charge if it did at all. All the parts and work it would take for a kind of crappy result wouldn't be as good as just spending the $50 or whatever.
That's the negative side though, so don't get me wrong. If I could I'd totally be building one myself as well. I wish more people were into DIY stuff like this. I also really like the idea of building it into a desk and you may be able to do that with an official Touchstone charger.
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While the OP was not about charge current or cycles I do sincerely hope that you understand the value of correcting misinformation and wrong assertions about any aspect that may raise it's related head in these threads.
To jump into a thread and the forum with such a comment is perhaps an indication of the levels of accepable politeness at large in the world today.
But I for one don't take too kindly to it.
But then us 'older' members may be a little too sensitive.
Any impropriety and the mods will deal with it!
My moto g (1st gen) is about to arrive but I don't know how to charge it yet. I heard it takes long to charge in PC and I need a wall adapter for charging on the go anyways. Original brand ones are really expensive and I want to avoid that cost if possible. So is it safe to use a generic (most likely without any brand) wall adapter? For example one that says 100-240VAC, 50-60 Hz Output 5.0VDC 1.2mah. If not, what should I take into account when looking for a charger?
Thanks in advance.
It's not necessary to use original moto charger but it's recommended you can use any other chargers for charging With appropriate Voltage values...
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All USB chargers have a regulated output voltage of 5 volts DC, and all of them are compatible with any device that charges via a USB/mini/micro port.
The difference is the maximum charging current, which generally ranges from a low of 300 milliamps to a high of 2 amps. More current will fill up the battery faster, as long as the charging control circuit on the device will accept more power. Regular USB ports like the ones on your computer are specified to put out a maximum of 500 milliamps current, so most device charging circuits will detect when they are on a computer USB port and limit their current drain to 500 milliamps to avoid triggering a "port overload" shutdown on the computer.
Devices with big batteries (like tablets) will take a long time to charge with a low-capacity charger, so you generally want to use a higher-capacity 2 amp charger with those to cut the charging time. Phones are generally somewhere in the middle - they'll charge in a reasonable time with a 1 amp charger, but they might benefit from using a 2 amp charger. You can still charge them using a low-capacity charger or a computer USB port, but you may need to shut the device off while charging if it consumes more battery power in normal operation than the charger can pump into it. And it might take a very long time (like 24 hours) to charge a big battery from a small charger.
jbanti said:
It's not necessary to use original moto charger but it's recommended you can use any other chargers for charging With appropriate Voltage values...
Sent from my XT1033
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DJames1 said:
All USB chargers have a regulated output voltage of 5 volts DC, and all of them are compatible with any device that charges via a USB/mini/micro port.
The difference is the maximum charging current, which generally ranges from a low of 300 milliamps to a high of 2 amps. More current will fill up the battery faster, as long as the charging control circuit on the device will accept more power. Regular USB ports like the ones on your computer are specified to put out a maximum of 500 milliamps current, so most device charging circuits will detect when they are on a computer USB port and limit their current drain to 500 milliamps to avoid triggering a "port overload" shutdown on the computer.
Devices with big batteries (like tablets) will take a long time to charge with a low-capacity charger, so you generally want to use a higher-capacity 2 amp charger with those to cut the charging time. Phones are generally somewhere in the middle - they'll charge in a reasonable time with a 1 amp charger, but they might benefit from using a 2 amp charger. You can still charge them using a low-capacity charger or a computer USB port, but you may need to shut the device off while charging if it consumes more battery power in normal operation than the charger can pump into it. And it might take a very long time (like 24 hours) to charge a big battery from a small charger.
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Yes I'm aware of all this. The thing is I purchased it from Amazon and it doesn't come with a charger. That's why I need to purchase one. I know it works without problems with samsung, htc, blackberry, etc chargers but I don't know if it works -without problems and risks- with a generic charger. By generic I mean those chinese cheap ones that "imitate" original ones. So are those safe? Thanks again.
There's generally no problem with an inexpensive generic charger, but cheap junk is cheap junk. If it costs $1.99, and the connections are poorly soldered, the components are under-specified, and the construction quality is generally shoddy, then sure it can easily break, overheat, or go up in smoke. It could even conceivably damage your connected device. Just use some common sense in evaluating when something is too cheap.
I just got a samsung charger which seems to be for the note 2.. My worry is that I'm not entirely sure if it's original (even though build quality seems good) or not because of many reasons: a) I just noticed the model on the box (eta0u10ebecstd) is different than what is printed on the charger (eta-u90ewe) , including amperage listed (0.7a on box, 2a on charger) even though the box had the security seal b) I google'd about the model in the charger and I only saw it with the european plug presentation, didn't see a single american plug of that model (and I have the american plug). c) there seems to be 2 "presentations" with different printings (what varies is the location of the certification logos mainly and 1 extra certification for each "model" the other one doesn't have)
So my question is simple: Let's suppose the charger is not original, can it damage my phone? Thanks again.
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I just got a samsung charger which seems to be for the note 2.. My worry is that I'm not entirely sure if it's original (even though build quality seems good) or not because of many reasons: a) I just noticed the model on the box (eta0u10ebecstd) is different than what is printed on the charger (eta-u90ewe) , including amperage listed (0.7a on box, 2a on charger) even though the box had the security seal b) I google'd about the model in the charger and I only saw it with the european plug presentation, didn't see a single american plug of that model (and I have the american plug). c) there seems to be 2 "presentations" with different printings (what varies is the location of the certification logos mainly and 1 extra certification for each "model" the other one doesn't have)
So my question is simple: Let's suppose the charger is not original, can it damage my phone? Thanks again.
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If it is not Genuine avoide using as much as you can.
Using a genuine Samsung with Motorola or any charger made by real maunfacturer (Nokia, Samsung, LG, HTC.... etc) with any other phone is ok
but a duplicate charger is always a risk, because you never know what has been compromised.
Alright, I'll get a genuine one asap. Any tips to differentiate between an oem or duplicate charger?
"Genuine" is not a word that applies to USB chargers. Perhaps you mean "same brand as my phone", or "recognized brand name". That's one way to be sure you're getting acceptable quality. But you'll save some money if you just use common sense in evaluating the price and quality of what you're buying. There's nothing wrong with most generic USB chargers, and there's certainly no problem using a different brand-name USB charger with your phone.
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"Genuine" is not a word that applies to USB chargers. Perhaps you mean "same brand as my phone", or "recognized brand name". That's one way to be sure you're getting acceptable quality. But you'll save some money if you just use common sense in evaluating the price and quality of what you're buying. There's nothing wrong with most generic USB chargers, and there's certainly no problem using a different brand-name USB charger with your phone.
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What I meant is fake copies of brand chargers. It's basically impossible to differentiate between a copy and an oem, isn't it?
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What I meant is fake copies of brand chargers. It's basically impossible to differentiate between a copy and an oem, isn't it?
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There are ways to differentiate then, but you need to measure the output under load and see if there is noise and ripple with an oscilloscope, which is not in everyone's possibilities.
Best way to get a genuine charger for cheap is to buy it from a friend who has it from some old phone. Or just look for brands like Nokia, Sony, Hama, Belkin, Energizer etc in some trusted sellers like Amazon or big local hypermarket.
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There are ways to differentiate then, but you need to measure the output under load and see if there is noise and ripple with an oscilloscope, which is not in everyone's possibilities.
Best way to get a genuine charger for cheap is to buy it from a friend who has it from some old phone. Or just look for brands like Nokia, Sony, Hama, Belkin, Energizer etc in some trusted sellers like Amazon or big local hypermarket.
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Ok so I found 3 chargers on Amazon that seem to have good reviews but I don't know much about brands so I hope you can help me to choose (can't post links). Which brand is more reputable in chargers? New trent, anker or powergen? Thanks
xzifi said:
Ok so I found 3 chargers on Amazon that seem to have good reviews but I don't know much about brands so I hope you can help me to choose (can't post links). Which brand is more reputable in chargers? New trent, anker or powergen? Thanks
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Powergen afaik are making high-power output chargers.You'd be fine with one of theirs, their quality is airtight and the prices are good.